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didrocksgood morning06:38
flocculantmorning didrocks - all aboard the night train to Bravus Buffalo is it :p06:40
didrockshey flocculant! oh, the name was announced?06:46
* didrocks didn't read rss feeds yet06:46
flocculantnah - I have the devil in me :p06:46
didrockshaha ;)06:48
flocculantlast 3 days at old job ... woke up with a 'this is going to be fun' attitude :p06:49
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers!06:49
didrocksroh ;)06:51
didrockssalut oSoMoN !06:51
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?06:52
* oSoMoN takes cat to vet, bbiab07:03
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MrGreenWhat is the name for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS ?07:13
flocculantMrGreen: no idea yet07:14
jameshMrGreen: like previous releases, you'll probably find out first at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/07:15
jameshthere hasn't been an announcement yet07:15
MrGreenfor the 17.10, he had not announced.07:16
acheronukthough Mark did not blog for artful07:16
flocculantall that aside - we don't know yet :)07:16
acheronukfor Artful the first sign was the name changing here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+series07:17
acheronukbut who knows this time07:17
didrocksoSoMoN: doing fine, thanks! yourself (apart your cat? :/)07:19
dupondjedidrocks: I guess you know why gdm3 doesn't show Wayland session option on a Nouveau/Intel optimus laptop? :)07:48
seb128good morning desktopers07:49
didrocksdupondje: I heard that there is some issues on hybrid card07:49
didrocksdupondje: I think the most effective is to report your configuraiton on GNOME bugzilla so that upstream can debug it07:50
didrockshey seb12807:50
didrocksdupondje: also, there is a version of gnome-shell/mutter in proposed which worth a try07:50
didrocksdupondje: so I would say, first install those versions from proposed ^ and reboot. Some had wayland crashes (and so, fallback to Xorg), and on their config, they can run wayland again07:51
dupondjeoh! i'll check that out tonight (when I'm back on my optimus laptop)07:51
dupondjethanks for the info!07:51
seb128re didrocks :)07:51
dufludupondje, sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/172458307:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1724583 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3 in Ubuntu 17.10 doesn't list wayland sessions when using hybrid graphics" [Undecided,Incomplete]07:52
Trevinhodidrocks: I opened a bug about sendin more infos from g-s with apport unpack, can we SRU that once you land next one?07:52
Trevinhodidrocks: also, I noticed in some places no extensionst list are exported, is that the case?07:52
Trevinhoas it would be useful to debug some things07:52
Trevinho*err* not apport-unpack, I meant apport-retrace07:53
Trevinhoor whatever its called the tool that attaches stuff to LP07:53
oSoMoNdidrocks, doing fine, and cat is fine too, just a minor allergy that's under control07:53
oSoMoNhey seb128, Trevinho07:53
didrocksTrevinho: sure, we can do that with .2 for instance07:53
Trevinhohi oSoMoN07:53
seb128lut oSoMoN07:53
seb128hey duflu07:53
dufluHey seb128.07:53
dufluAnd Europe wakes up as I finish 7 hours of answering release-weekend bug mail07:54
dupondjebtw, the translations of the popup that lists possible software when opening a file ... In which package is that? There is some annoying translation bug in it since like 3 years ... Guess i'm gonne report it :p07:54
Trevinhohi duflu07:54
dufluHey Trevinho07:54
oSoMoNhey duflu07:55
dufluMorning oSoMoN07:55
Trevinhoah didrocks also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789237 might be useful to have for debuggin, in any case I think we should set SHELL_DEBUG="backtrace-segfaults" (and ":backtrace-warnings" too maybe) by default for us until say... beta?07:55
ubot5Gnome bug 789237 in general "Call gjs_dumpstack on aborts and traps and optionally on segfaults" [Normal,New]07:55
didrocksTrevinho: we discussed on Friday on having a package that we can seed temporarly to have debug on by default07:56
didrocksTrevinho: need to discuss I think07:57
didrocksduflu, as the bug master, has the reference :)07:57
* duflu closes eyes07:57
dufluStill a couple of hours left for actual code07:57
didrocksTrevinho: so maybe add to that one: bug #169603007:57
Trevinhodidrocks: well, in this case we don't need to debug stuff, just to allow the shell to send us infos about what part of JS is crashing07:57
ubot5bug 1696030 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell logging is too brief to be useful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169603007:57
didrocksTrevinho: you didn't review bug #1721102 yet?07:58
ubot5bug 1721102 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Thin line at the left of Simple Scan's "Scan" headerbar button" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172110207:58
didrocksthe regression is really not nice :/07:58
didrockshey willcooke07:58
dufluMorning willcooke08:00
Trevinhodidrocks: I've done it, not approved yet, since I'm adding some other fixes on top of it08:00
Trevinhodidrocks: but the branch is more than ok, so I'm approving it shortly08:00
Trevinhodidrocks: adding another one on top though08:00
didrocksTrevinho: please test them carefully, you know how much the theme can break…08:01
Trevinhodidrocks: yeah... rules are pretty strict, but yeah08:01
seb128duflu, when you mark a bug which has useful info as a dup it would be nice to copy the info in the master bug08:02
dufluseb128, sometimes yes. Other times there is too much text to copy, which makes life harder for the next person trying to read both08:03
seb128hey willcooke08:03
seb128duflu, right, the one I just crossed in the gdm avatar-not-centered and the duplicate had a css snippet08:03
seb128Guest5394, hey (Laney?)08:04
Guest5394I am Guest539408:04
Guest5394I am my own person08:04
Guest5394I AM A FREE MAN!08:04
seb128welcome here Guest5394 :p08:04
Guest5394not like that Guest11178 loser08:04
seb128the bot took over08:04
seb128he kicked his master out of the keyboard and is doing IRC by himself08:05
willcookeI miss that guy]08:05
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke08:05
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* Laney breaks free08:06
oSoMoNmorning Laney :)08:06
didrocksLaney took back, morning!08:06
Laneywhat's up homies08:06
seb128it's sunny monday!08:06
seb128after rainy&windy tennis sunday :p08:06
* Laney turns on the bot compactor in the back room08:07
Laneywind must be annoying at tennis08:07
seb128it is08:07
seb128"but the ball was going this way!"08:07
seb128andyrock, Trevinho, thanks for that indicator-printers fix, it one frequently reported on e.u.c, I had it to my list of things to look at but didn't manage to get to it yet08:11
Trevinhocrash-wise we're not all bad right now, most of them are addressed... I think I linked most of the upstream side of things locally08:12
LaneyTrevinho: nice cat08:12
Trevinhowe need to backport some stuff...08:12
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, he's lovely!08:12
Laneywhere are you now?08:12
MrGreenThere are no more bug in Ubuntu? It's been several days since I have any updates08:13
Trevinhoand he meows all the times I go out to work in the pool area... So he stays sitting with me close to the laptop :-D08:13
TrevinhoLaney: still Playa del Carmen08:13
MrGreen(*no update)08:13
seb128it's nice to see some contributors filing bugs with css change suggestion08:19
seb128e.g bug #172548708:19
ubot5bug 1725487 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Hot corner ripple animation is still blue in Ubuntu/Ambiance" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172548708:19
seb128Trevinho, didrocks, who would be interested to look into that one?08:19
TrevinhoI can, but not now... after the bed break :-D08:20
seb128yeah, it's not an important one08:21
didrocksseb128: I can hav a look, no worry08:21
didrocksbut didn't we disable hot corner?08:22
seb128didrocks, thanks08:22
* didrocks opens and read08:22
seb128yeah, you can re-enable it with gnome-tweaks08:22
Trevinhoso super low :)08:22
didrocksyep, I've put the gsettings patch in it08:22
seb128just to merge in a vcs for whatever b upload08:22
seb128or maybe next sru08:22
seb128the reporter seems nice so trying to keep him happy08:22
didrocksah, so rewriting the assets08:23
didrocksrather than the css08:23
seb128he filed bug #1725545 and bug #1725546 with css suggestions08:23
ubot5bug 1725183 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1725545 User picture on login screen is not centred within the highlight box" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172518308:23
ubot5bug 1725546 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Disable noise on login screen background" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172554608:23
seb128I don't understand the noise one though :p08:23
didrocksso, that was a trap, you want the 3 of them in? ;)08:23
didrocks(well, at least the login screen change ?)08:23
seb128well if you want to review the other ones feel free08:24
seb128the blue color feeled one that is buggy and option08:24
seb128I don't understand what the "noise" does so I've no opinion on that one08:24
seb128and the centered is minor but I guess would be worth including if we can08:24
dufluseb128, you need a decent monitor to see the noise. It's designed into the purple background :)08:24
duflu(leftover from the default theme)08:25
seb128I was just pointing them to show that the user is trying to help08:25
didrocksdisabling the noise is a no no08:25
seb128duflu, I think I would need better eyes for such details as well :p08:25
didrockswithout it, the aubergine looks really bad08:25
didrocksso not leftover, but desired08:25
dufludidrocks, I agree and would prefer the grey noise :)08:25
didrockshowever, I agree it's annoying that it seems to apply everywhere08:25
dufluI think there's a bug for that too08:25
didrocksand not only on the background08:25
didrockslike on the logo :/08:26
dufludidrocks, bug 172300808:27
ubot5bug 1723008 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Suggestion: Make the login screen background grey again" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172300808:27
didrocksduflu: doesn't work at all with our default content08:27
didrockswe tried that as well08:27
didrocksyou can go back to grey if you want :)08:27
didrocks(see my blog posts)08:28
dufludidrocks, you mean plymouth?08:28
didrocksnot plymouth, "logging screen" is GDM08:28
didrockswhich is your bug08:28
dufludidrocks, just wondering which default content matches the purple... or do you mean the wallpaper?08:29
didrocksduflu: ah yeah, we matches plymouth08:30
* dupondje doesn't find where the translations are of the 'Open File With' dialog ... :) Shouldn't that be in Nautilus?08:30
didrocksdupondje: I would say rather GTK08:31
seb128well which one08:37
seb128the tab in the properties of a file?08:37
dupondjeseb128: well if you right click on the file, and use "Open with other application". Then you get a popup with all the applications08:39
dupondjethere there is a translation bug :)08:39
seb128right, that's gtk08:40
seb128didrocks, ok, one more bug ping and I stop for today :p Interested it looking to bug #1725219? it's the g-c-c code you wrote it looks like08:43
ubot5bug 1725219 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:11:g_type_check_instance_cast:ext_ubuntu_dock_placement_changed_callback:g_closure_invoke:signal_emit_unlocked_R:g_signal_emit_valist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172521908:43
seb128we are getting quite some users, recent reports on launchpad is busy08:43
seb128we got like 15 new bugs on g-c-c since friday08:43
didrocksseb128: sure, need to understand what happens with it, but happy to have a look08:43
seb128didrocks, ok, so I triage/assign to you, no hurry to work on it I'm just trying to stay on top of the triaging08:44
seb128didrocks, thanks08:44
didrockssystem said it crashed but all settings applied08:44
didrocks(from the dup)08:45
didrocksit's a "quick close apply settings" ;)08:45
didrocksoh, the dup doesn't have the same stacktrace at all, it's like if the panel ref itself was getting invalid?08:45
didrocksneeds digging08:45
dupondjeseb128: https://imgur.com/a/8iK3e => its translated as "Allel toepassingen bekijken". But can't find it in the translations (https://l10n.gnome.org/POT/gtk+.gtk-3-22/gtk+.gtk-3-22.nl.po here its correct)08:46
* didrocks had an idea to recreate the crash, but not this08:49
seb128dupondje, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+source/gtk+3.0/+pots/gtk-3.0/nl/1094/+translate08:50
seb128dupondje, the launchpad translators probably changed the strings, report it against language-pack-gnome-nl on launchpad08:51
dupondjeseb128: ok, cause its correct in the gtk package also.08:52
seb128dupondje, is it wrong on that url I gave?08:52
dupondjeseb128: yes08:52
seb128k, so what I said08:52
dupondjei'll report a bug on language-pack-gnome-nl :)08:52
seb128didrocks, sometime it's callback called after the panel is changed/unloaded because they didn't get disconnected on unload08:53
seb128dupondje, k08:53
didrocksseb128: that's my guess, but I tried to reproduce it going to another panel and changing the key and it worked08:54
didrocksseb128: I'm not exactly sure when dispoze is called in G-C-C (and a lot of other callbacks aren't disconnected in other panels)08:55
didrocksI think I'll just track the id and disconnect for now as a tentative fix08:55
dupondjeseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-nl/+bug/1726312 done :)08:55
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1726312 in language-pack-gnome-nl (Ubuntu) "Translation error in gtk3.0 package" [Undecided,New]08:55
seb128yeah, other panels have segfaults as well seing the recent reports :p08:55
seb128dupondje, thx08:56
seb128didrocks, yeah, sometime those are difficult to trigger, best is to do the code change if we know it's right and see if reports stop then08:56
didrocksseb128: yeah, was heading towards that direction (I have 2 of them to disconnect)08:56
TrevinhoLaney, didrocks: here's the other https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/headerbar-destructive-theming/+merge/33261208:58
Trevinhoand a new one is coming08:58
didrocksTrevinho: No bug linked? The changes seem to be really large for a SRU…08:59
Trevinhodidrocks: I'm writing it right now08:59
didrocksI'll let seb128 decides on the SRU worthyness for such large changes :p08:59
Trevinhodidrocks: it's just verbose css, copy paste of the previous code with different colors08:59
Trevinhodidrocks: I've landed way bigger SRUs in unity in the past, so I'm not worried by the amount :-D09:00
seb128Trevinho, didrocks, yeah, let's see first the bug reports and if we get users complaining about the issue09:00
Trevinhoseb128: it's just really nothing big, just applying the same rules to what we had for othe ractions, but next one also is needed for buttons which are maximized... or it's all inconsistent.09:02
Trevinhoanyway we can sru it even later after it stays a bit in the archives, I don't mind.09:02
didrocksseb128: the only one which is really visible and I saw people complaining about it, it's the Simple Scan regression since Trevinho's last landing. I don't have opinions on the other, but it seems we are all mixing them in the same landing?09:03
Trevinhoit was already broken anyway, but as said I can land it also in b and we can later backport if needed, I don't care. it's just it's somehing inconsitent, and since we land I'd land everything we have (if tested working).09:05
Laneydidrocks: I think you can use g_signal_connect_object on those since they're all GObjects, then no need to store the ID09:05
Laneyif that's helpful09:05
didrocksLaney: oh, nice hint, looking at the doc09:06
didrocks"When the gobject is destroyed the signal handler will be automatically disconnected."09:06
didrocksnice, didn't know that one09:06
Trevinhodidrocks: just pass the obj after :)09:06
Laneyquite handy in some cases09:06
Trevinhonot always resolutive, but quite helpful09:07
Laneykeeping track of the stuff to disconnect it sucks09:07
LaneyTrevinho: code looks good to me, screenshot would be helpful though :P09:07
Laneyisn't it like 4am for you?09:08
Laneysleep -> sunbathie -> party -> work09:08
TrevinhoLaney: yeah. let me grab one, I wanted to open the bug first :)09:09
* Laney goes blind09:10
Trevinhobackdrop... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qAJpfAxx/image.png09:10
TrevinhoLaney: they're never shown together09:10
Trevinhothat's just a debug mode :-D09:10
LaneyI find them too bright anyway, but maybe that's just me09:10
seb128Trevinho, in any case please split the theme work, a simple change for the issue Didier reported then another changeset for the other changes you need09:11
TrevinhoI agree, but I just followed what it was chosen ...09:11
Trevinhoseb128: it's splitted already09:11
Laneyyeah it is09:11
* Laney is just code reviewing, can be included whenever09:12
Trevinhoseb128: but the fix didn't include the problem with the cancel button, which normally is dark, then it gets colored when unfocused or other cases..09:12
Trevinhoit's juts broken :)09:12
Trevinhobug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1726318 fyi09:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1726318 in Ubuntu theme "Destructive actions on headerbar aren't properly themed" [Medium,In progress]09:17
TrevinhoI don't have other examples of such buttons, but just use the inspector and add the destructive-action to any headerbar button, and you'll see what  Imean09:18
willcookexdg-open apt://vlc09:31
willcookeerr, wrong window09:32
willcookealso, that's a bug ^ :)09:32
willcookeAnyone have apturl knowledge?09:38
TrevinhoLaney: that's the other https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/headerbar-maximized-destructive-suggested-actions/+merge/33261909:38
oSoMoNchrisccoulson, hey, are you working on bug #1725238 ?09:40
ubot5bug 1725238 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Clicking snap:// urls doesn't work " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172523809:40
dufluTrevinho, Laney, I think there's a place for Ubunt purple in a headerbar button somewhere...10:08
dufluAnd on that thought, good night10:08
Trevinhoduflu: i want it10:08
Trevinhogood night10:08
Trevinhodidrocks: I've just pushed tha debug stuff on 3.26 g-s branch (and master too), so, when you backport keep in mind :)10:13
didrocksTrevinho: nice! :)10:15
willcookedidrocks, do you know if there are any docs which devs can use to add support for kstatusnotifier to their apps?10:49
didrockswillcooke: we have some for appindicator, which is globally compatible: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Porting_Guide_for_Applications10:50
willcookenice one, thanks didrocks10:55
didrocks yw ;)10:57
seb128Trevinho, should bug #1714989 be marked as invalid in ubuntu/gnome-shell if that was an issue in dash-to-panel? Or is there a way gnome-shell could be made robust against such error in an extension?11:47
ubot5bug 1714989 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from st_label_set_text() from ffi_call_unix64() [dash-to-panel specific?]" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171498911:47
willcookeLaney, thank you for the apturl fix :)11:47
Trevinhoseb128: there's people in bugzilla saying they've it without extensions, so maybe it's different11:48
Trevinhobut also the one there is triggered by an extension11:48
seb128Trevinho, ok, let's see once the extension is fixed11:48
Laneywillcooke: powerless to resist11:48
mvohey, silly question of a gnome-shell newbie - is there a decent clock for g-s that shows the time in various places in the world (that I can define)? like the unity clock?12:14
GammaDraconislike this ? : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension-data/screenshots/screenshot_697.png12:15
mvoGammaDraconis: yeah, that looks like what I want12:17
mvoGammaDraconis: what do I need to do to get this :) ?12:18
GammaDraconisextension panel world clock : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/697/panel-world-clock/12:18
GammaDraconisbut may not be compatible yet 3.26, to see12:18
mvoGammaDraconis: yeah, it says "error"12:19
mvo(and not more - let me try the light version)12:19
GammaDraconissearch here : https://extensions.gnome.org/12:19
GammaDraconis+ install gnome tweak tool12:20
mvoGammaDraconis: thanks, light version installs but I see unfortuantely see nothing and the configure dialog is not helping (I'm on 17.10 with g-s 3.26 fwiw)12:20
willcookemvo, try installing gnome clocks, see if that does what you want12:21
willcookeOnce you've set it up, I /think/ you get the timezones etc in notifications12:22
mvowillcooke: yeah, gnome-clocks it is!12:22
mvowillcooke: \o/ thank you (and GammaDraconis as well)12:22
willcookeah, but doesnt show you the times in the notification area12:24
willcookehaving to open a separate app is annoying imo12:25
GammaDraconisNo name yet for ubuntu 18.04 ? No news from Mark Shuttleworth ? He is on holidays ?12:25
willcookeGammaDraconis, no news that I'm aware of12:25
GammaDraconisno contact with him ? no mail or phone ?12:27
willcooke@ clocks - ah, log out and back in, and there they are12:28
willcookeubuntu.com screenshot is now fixed, properly.13:00
willcookedidrocks, ^ :)13:00
seb128willcooke, gnome-clocks does show you in the tz in the notification popdown from the panel13:02
willcookeseb128, yeah I had to restart my session13:04
seb128didrocks, do you know if the dock extension manages favorites in some way or is that just using the same code as the gnome-shell favorites?13:05
Laneyseb128: do you want to top approve that apturl thing or wait for someone else to look?13:30
seb128Laney, I can do it13:30
Laneythx, then I can upload13:31
seb128Laney, done13:31
popey<3 thanks chaps :)13:32
willcookepopey, we still need to backport the ffox fixes before it will work from ffox though13:33
popeyis that fixed upstream?13:34
Laneyapturl vcs was out of date13:39
Laneythis happens all the time13:40
Laneyla la la13:42
willcookepopey, yes13:54
willcookepopey, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138232313:55
ubot5Mozilla bug 1382323 in Security: Process Sandboxing "Firefox 54 on Fedora 26 doesn't launch custom protocol handler" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:55
seb128Laney, bzr/launchpad did something weird there, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/apturl/ubuntu is marking the bugs fixed by r150 which was the missing version you restored, not with your commit of the fix13:58
seb128oh well, detail13:58
Laneyprobably me being weird with bzr13:59
jbichawhat do you think of LP: #1726093 ?14:01
ubot5Launchpad bug 1726093 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-desktop: Install gir1.2-gmenu-3.0 by default" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172609314:01
willcookejbicha, I saw a discussion on twitter over the weekend about that, and people saying "broken by design" etc etc.  :(14:02
willcookeFrom what I picked up from the thread it seems like an ok thing to add to me, if it makes things a bit easier for people using the ubuntu session14:03
willcookethat said, it's odd that people wanting to do thsoe sorts of things were anti installing gnome-session14:03
willcookejbicha, any ideas of the additional size?  Not much right?14:03
mgedminhow is a user going to realize they need to install gnome-session when their newly installed gnome shell extension fail to work?14:05
jbichawillcooke: apt says 222kB for that & its dep libgnome-menu-3-014:05
willcookemgedmin, fair point14:06
willcookejbicha, oh, tiny :)14:06
willcookeso I'm +1 then.14:06
willcookejbicha, shall we discuss tomorrow in the meeting?14:06
jbichathat's fine14:07
krashekspressdo you maybe know what I'm missing for showing shell extension in Ubuntu software (list is empty)?14:12
Laneynothing, that doesn't work atm14:12
krashekspressoh, found it14:13
krashekspress gnome-software[9969]: failed to get apps for category apps: too many results returned14:13
seb128krashekspress, bug #172280914:18
ubot5bug 1722809 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "GNOME Shell Extensions subcategory is empty in GNOME Software" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172280914:18
krashekspressseb128: thanks14:19
krashekspressI stumbled upon this channel after upgrade to 17.10 (had few issues) and so far experience with community here is awesome, thanks to everybody here for great effort and positive atmosphere14:23
willcookethanks for the feedback krashekspress, and thanks for the bug reports14:28
didrocksseb128: just chcked the code, it's using upstream facility to look at favorites14:43
didrocksseb128: it can do a rematching/refiltering to only show apps on the current workspace though14:43
didrocksand it's listening to favorites external changes14:44
didrockswhy, is there any bug with it?14:44
seb128didrocks, there was a "can't add telegram to the launcher" which duflu reassigned from gnome-shell to the extension, I reassigned back, reading again I think it is 'can't add binaries without a .desktop' which is known upstream14:51
didrocksah interesting, could be that, I don't know if they create .desktop file on the spot14:53
seb128didrocks, the description states that the user was started a bin from some dir14:54
seb128so I guess it's just not matching a .Desktop14:54
mgedminwhat's with this black border in the app selector? https://imgur.com/a/QzBcU (gnome-tweak-tool -> startup apps -> add)14:54
seb128didrocks, thanks for the reply14:54
seb128mgedmin, what theme do you use?14:55
didrocksseb128: I wonder if it worths working on creating the minimal desktop app with a crappy icon…14:55
seb128didrocks, a "would be nice" for sure, but we have too much to do already so I doubt we will get to it this cycle ... but let's see how frequent it is as a complain14:56
oSoMoNchromium snap 62 call for testing is out: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-chromium-62-0-3202-62/256915:00
oSoMoN(and here: https://plus.google.com/+OlivierTilloy/posts/Mh3Pdgw8KhL)15:00
krashekspressmgedmin: looks ugly on screen before also15:02
oSoMoNchrisccoulson, chromium-browser 62.0.3202.62 in https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages is ready for a security update16:06
willcookenight all17:11
jbichakenvandine[m][m]: did you see LP: #1725897 ?17:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 1725897 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Offers to install snaps that need the gnome-3-26-1604 snap & be connected to work" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172589717:16
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seb128jbicha, did you see my comment on that bug? I Cced him earlier, also he's off today & tomorrow at a conference18:13
jbichaoh that makes sense since there's a big conference near where he lives18:15
oSoMoNgood night all18:19
krashekspressgot new annoying bug, cant get picture after resuming suspend, (hard drive is doing something but screen remains black,a s if monitor is not getting signal), happens on both Wayland and Xorg, under what should I report that?18:43
sarnoldkrashekspress: try manually switching VTs among 1,2,6,7 see if that unsticks something18:43
krashekspresstried that, nothing happens18:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1726536 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Cant resume after suspend/sleep" [Undecided,New]19:04
sarnoldkrashekspress: how confident are you in the hardware on this system?19:07
sarnold"do_general_protection: 87 callbacks suppressed"19:08
sarnoldthis makes me wonder if you've got bad ram19:08
krashekspressits 2.5 year old desktop19:08
sarnoldor maybe it's just gnome segfaults... iirc i've seen a lot of those lately.19:08
krashekspressI'm working on it daily19:08
krashekspressI wouldn't say that something is off19:09
krashekspresshad to use windows for last project (ca 2 months) didn't have any problems19:09
krashekspressbut there is allways possibility, it is hardware and it has life span :)19:09
sarnoldright ;) it's sometimes hard to tell with bug reports.. sometimes hardware errors stand out bright as day, and sometimes it's a little harder to spot19:10
sarnoldthis one felt like it -might- be hardware errors, or maybe it's just new software that's not debugged yet19:10
krashekspressmy opinion is that this mught be GPU19:13
krashekspressI have one more bug connected to it19:13
krashekspressit just doesn't play nice19:13
krashekspressunrelated, does ~/.cache/dconf has to be owned by root or by user?19:26
sarnold-rw------- 1 root root 2 Apr 29  2016 /home/sarnold/.cache/dconf/user19:29
flocculantdrwxrwxr-x   2 wolf wolf    4096 Sep  2 10:41 dconf19:30
flocculantfor me - but I run xubuntu - and used dconf for something a while back19:30
sarnoldflocculant: do you have any files in that directory?19:30
flocculantjust 1 - user19:31
flocculantwhich apparently is all of 2bytes big19:31
jbichaI don't even have that directory here, this is a fairly new 17.10 install19:31
krashekspressI'm getting ton of (google-chrome-stable:4156): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/dario/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.19:31
sarnoldflocculant: what user/permissions on that user file?19:32
flocculantwolf wolf - as I would expect19:33
sarnoldas would I19:33
sarnoldso where the heck did mine come from and why is it root:root? :)19:33
krashekspressI don't have it, that's even worse :(19:33
flocculantI'd guess krashekspress has the same problem ;)19:33
sarnoldI was about to blindly answer to krashekspress "if it's owned by root then it's made some huge mistakes" or something similar, but, uh, there sits a file owned by root in my own home dir and I have no idea why.19:34
krashekspressand now question for million dollars, should I "fix" permissions? :)19:34
krashekspressI'm guessing that this happen on my system with suspend/wake crash19:35
krashekspressbecause error is from chrome, and after crash all my accoutns were logged of19:35
krashekspressthis would then mean that my "unrelated" flag was wrong :)19:37
krashekspressso, should I fix permissions?20:04
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