[00:43] <clivejo> I just remembered what I wanted to ask yofel - about the Linode charges on his credit card
[00:44] <clivejo> I'm so dizzy
[00:47] <valorie> clivejo: if I closed your PM it was by mistake, but no reason to talk privately I think?
[00:50] <valorie> tbh I find PMs too easy to overlook
[00:50] <valorie> and not necessary for anything but personal stuff
[11:33] <yofel> clivejo: I forgot to sum that up this weekend, but probably makes most sense when we know their reply to the ticket. If you're curious about numbers: It's 160$ per month (~135€)
[11:43] <clivejo> wow, that's steep to be charged directly to you
 @ahoneybun anything back on that? ⬆️
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hmHqqGqd/file_3467.jpg
 ummmmmmmm........
[14:16] <clivejo> full working week, doesn't look hopeful
[14:16] <acheronuk> we know any on the higher ups?
[14:16] <acheronuk> any of
 We might have to take it down
 take what down?
 The VPS
[14:22] <acheronuk> I won't be uploading anything for 18.04 then
[14:22] <acheronuk> my upload can't handle it
[14:23] <clivejo> I spoke to Robie and that auto dput feature is a long way off too :(
[14:23] <acheronuk> can we make packaging containers on bytemark?
[14:23] <clivejo> I doubt we use 1/4 of the resources we have on it though?
[14:23] <acheronuk> yofel?
 I have a VPS that I use that I'd be willing to give logins for to anyone in ~kubuntu-dev
[14:24] <clivejo> could probably scale it down I reckon
[14:24] <yofel> acheronuk: technically we can, though the setup will have to be a bit different
[14:24] <yofel> there is some unpartitioned space left
[14:25] <acheronuk> that's 2 options then
[14:25] <clivejo> kci update script is on one of those containers too
[14:26] <yofel> note that linode keeps the kci backup right now, so we will need something other than bytemark as a replacement for that
[14:27] <acheronuk> well, I have no clue on VPS shopping :/
[14:29] <clivejo> river is still up
[14:30] <yofel> I personally use scaleway for cheap stuff, but that comes with tradeoff on CPU speed, disk I/O and not very convenient backups
[14:30] <yofel> If you don't go the cloud route you can also find nice things.
[14:31] <yofel> Doesn't change that someone would end up having to pay for it
[14:31] <clivejo> maybe have a word with BS about using that?
[14:31] <clivejo> surely that is why people donate to Kubuntu
[14:33] <clivejo> £10.7k in Kubuntu bank account
[14:33] <yofel> as a backup server river might do the job. For anything else... rather not
[14:34] <clivejo> wow £19.18 for a .co.uk, thats rip off :/
[14:35] <clivejo> ah two years
 http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518
[14:36]  * yofel throws broomsticks at Mark
[14:36] <clivejo> no way
[14:36] <clivejo> thats too many characters
[14:36] <yofel> that's what I thought. Read the end :D
[14:37]  * clivejo huffs
[14:37] <clivejo> I never read to the end
[14:39] <clivejo> did you have some kind of change script running to detect that?
[14:40] <clivejo> valorie won't like that
[14:41] <clivejo> dirty dirty mind she has
[14:41] <acheronuk> clivejo: no, just say it mentioned elsewhere
[14:41] <acheronuk> so we will have 'bionic' branches
[14:45] <acheronuk> anyone near? https://twitter.com/linode/status/922807055957839872
 *pokes the Bionic Beaver*
 Looks very realistic
 3.5 years of those jokes!
 :D
 I might tire by then
 But until the big bionic beaver reveal, no way
 I hope I'm still around when Bionic Beaver EOLs
 Y'know, if Snaps haven't eliminated my job yet...
 @acheronuk, No :P
[17:03] <clivejo> I dunno
[17:03] <clivejo> all that sugar and caffeine he might snap himself
 I'd rather be in an AppImage, so I can run everywhere without issue... :P
[17:15]  * clivejo wonders could we hold a release party for 18.04 in Muff, Co Donegal
 (Photo, 717x536) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jncRP0NN/file_3474.jpg
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/kvy0UpKf/file_3476.jpg
 \o/ 12 months
[18:59] <clivejo> yippeee
[19:00] <clivejo> That's a considerable donation, maybe we should blog about it and write a bit about what we use it for?
[19:01] <clivejo> who are https://cms2cms.com/ ?
[19:02] <acheronuk> we should definitely give them some bang for those bucks!
[19:02] <clivejo> definately
[19:39] <valorie> **I** have a dirty mind?
[19:39] <valorie> evidence suggests it's CLIVE with the dirty mind
 @valorie, *RIK
[19:39] <valorie> lol
[19:39] <valorie> bionic beaver release party in Muff
[19:39] <valorie> good lord
[19:40] <valorie> ahoneybun: that is awesome!
 Ours will be LFNW weekend valorie :D
[19:41] <valorie> omg I can see the smirks now
[19:41] <valorie> damn that Mark
[19:41] <ahoneybun> I might know a program call Muff
[19:42] <ahoneybun> lol
[19:42] <ahoneybun> valorie: I know right!
[19:42] <ahoneybun> make a blog post clivejo
[19:42] <valorie> "finally a release for all you lesbian Linuxers"
 Lol
[19:49] <valorie> oregon will love it
[19:49] <valorie> wxl: ^^^
[19:53] <wxl> heck yes :)
 Hehehehehehe
 valorie: Washington is beautiful, I'm longing to go back
[19:58] <valorie> sunshine today!
[19:58] <valorie> after well over a week and inches of rain
[19:58] <valorie> rain again tomorrow, but sun today!
[20:46] <valorie> http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/4197
[20:47] <acheronuk> that will either be amazing or make you sick!
[20:53] <valorie> probably one is amazing
[20:53] <valorie> two makes ya barf
[20:54] <valorie> Busch beer
[20:54] <valorie> that part made me laugh
 @ahoneybun is that 12 months from now, so we have to arrange to pay yofel for what he has paid already?
 or is it backdated, and they will refunf him?
[21:09] <ahoneybun> not sure about the refund
[21:09] <ahoneybun> just take from the fund
[21:09] <ahoneybun> I'd like him to get paid back
[21:09] <acheronuk> yeah, he will. just which way
[21:15] <valorie> we should think about the future -- it's an amazing offer, but do we need such an expensive service?
[21:18] <clivejo> leave that decision for next years council
[21:20]  * clivejo is glad his finger is returning to normal
[21:40] <yofel> not something that expensive, but yeah, lets talk about that next year
[21:45] <valorie> perhaps by then we'll have our toolchain more stable and more of an idea what we want
[21:46] <valorie> would be cool to have santa working on our pre-upload testing on our own servers
[21:46] <valorie> so that more people can contribute to that effort
[21:47] <valorie> what didja do to your finger, clivejo?
[21:47] <clivejo> hammered it
[21:47] <valorie> yikes!
[21:47]  * valorie makes clivejo a pitcher of bionic beaver
[21:47] <clivejo> mmmmmmm
[21:47]  * clivejo licks lips
 Just got my temps :D :D :D
[21:48] <valorie> omg, everybody stay off the road!!!!!
[21:48] <clivejo> what are temps?
[21:49] <valorie> @tsimonq2 -- your temporary driver's license?
[21:50] <clivejo> I find that so strange
[21:50] <clivejo> you can drive so young, but can't drink or vote :/
 @valorie, Yes
 @valorie, Lol
[21:53] <valorie> you can legally carry a gun much earlier than that!
[21:53] <valorie> the US is sorta backwards
[21:53] <valorie> "can't" legally drink
[21:54] <valorie> 18-year-olds can vote
[21:54] <clivejo> but Simon is 15?
[21:54] <valorie> some states have a learner's permit
[21:54] <clivejo> I could drive a tractor at 16
[21:54] <valorie> not a license as such, since you must have a licensed driver in the car with you
[21:55] <valorie> I don't think tractor driving even needs a license in this state
[21:55] <clivejo> took it to town one day, took me an hour!
[21:55] <valorie> even on the public roads
[21:55] <valorie> which -- a tractor can be dangerous
[21:55] <valorie> a bit crazy
[21:56] <clivejo> indeed they can
[21:56] <valorie> of course so are cars, so there ya go
[21:56] <clivejo> I knocked my grandfathers shed down :/
[21:56] <valorie> time to learn how to build a shed I guess
 @valorie, Yep learners permit :D
[22:06] <clivejo> but thanks to the EU, I can no longer pull a cattle trailer or drive a tractor over certain limits
[22:10] <clivejo> can only legally drive one out of seven of my cousins tractors
[22:10] <valorie> it's sunny, so I'll go out and hunt dandelions one last time
[23:41] <valorie> now that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule has been updated, I've also updated our Kubuntu calendar
[23:43] <clivejo> which calendar?
[23:43] <clivejo> your Google one?
[23:43] <valorie> yes
[23:45] <clivejo> do you know how to update https://kubuntu.org/calendar ?
[23:45] <valorie> I don't
[23:45] <valorie> can it import a gcalendar?
[23:46] <clivejo> it could if it gets the correct URL
[23:46] <clivejo> but I couldn't get it to work with the one you gave me
[23:47] <valorie> oh, I found how to export it
[23:47] <valorie> sheesh
[23:47] <clivejo> got a url?
[23:49] <valorie> I think I'll share it with the council, not just aaron
[23:50] <valorie> oh, export gives me a zip file
[23:52] <valorie> I'll send it to you, but it looks like it zipped my cal and my husband's in there too
[23:52] <valorie> I assume you can just get the kubuntu one out
[23:52] <clivejo> there should be a feed url
[23:54] <valorie> sent to your gmail
[23:55] <valorie> Calendar ID: h6tbvu3gk2g1r36rfrd0hjclp0@group.calendar.google.com
[23:55] <valorie> I think
[23:56] <clivejo> https://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/upcoming-events/
[23:56] <clivejo> Getting a Calendar Link
[23:56] <clivejo> and the Green ICAL button
[23:58] <valorie> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/h6tbvu3gk2g1r36rfrd0hjclp0%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics