[10:47] <tarzeau> Tribaal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1696663
[10:47] <tarzeau> stuff like that is annoying
[10:47] <tarzeau> as well as: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1726798
[10:47] <tarzeau> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1314587 (i'm hit by this every time a NEW USER starts here)
[10:47] <tarzeau> some stop minimizing the last open window, some curse unity/ubuntu forever, and just use mate (or something else)
[10:48] <Tribaal> Ah, I can help with the grub stuff
[10:49] <Tribaal> The desktop one but so much unfortunately
[10:49] <Tribaal> (well, I *could* just like any other programmer in the world, if given enough time ;))
[10:50] <tarzeau> haha
[10:51] <tarzeau> i've got a workaround for the grub being raped by canonical/ubuntu
[10:51] <tarzeau> but the bug keeps reappearing :(
[10:51] <Tribaal> I'll check with cyphermox if there's a reason for that timeout
[10:51] <tarzeau> +++
[10:52] <Tribaal> Huh, he's also the maintainer for Debian's grub, it's surprising we would do things differently
[10:53] <tarzeau> https://people.phys.ethz.ch/~myczko/dphys-config-xenial-fix-grub
[10:54] <Tribaal> Did you consider sending that patch? I mean, I'm not sure me being the middle man is very useful :)
[10:54] <tarzeau> to whom?
[10:54] <tarzeau> it's not really a patch. it's some script fixing what others break
[10:54] <tarzeau> and it's reported to console, however still things work, normally just fine, except it's UGLY!
[10:55] <Tribaal> Well, it's not like it's a works breaking change indeed, but if it annoys you, might as well fix it for good.. no?
[10:56] <Tribaal> Anyway, this will likely persist for xenial
[10:57] <Tribaal> But at least let's get this fixed in Bb (whatever it ends up being called)
[10:58] <Tribaal> The fix is therefore : change the grub package to have a 0 timeout
[10:59] <Tribaal> (going running now, see you later)
[11:41] <tarzeau> it also happened to me on 17.10, haha
[11:41] <tarzeau> Bb?
[12:04] <Tribaal> The next Ubuntu release?
[13:39] <Tribaal> lol
[13:39] <Tribaal> "Bionic Beaver"
[13:40] <Tribaal> "bionic" it is :)