[10:47] Tribaal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1696663 [10:47] stuff like that is annoying [10:47] as well as: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1726798 [10:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1314587 (i'm hit by this every time a NEW USER starts here) [10:47] some stop minimizing the last open window, some curse unity/ubuntu forever, and just use mate (or something else) [10:48] Ah, I can help with the grub stuff [10:49] The desktop one but so much unfortunately [10:49] (well, I *could* just like any other programmer in the world, if given enough time ;)) [10:50] haha [10:51] i've got a workaround for the grub being raped by canonical/ubuntu [10:51] but the bug keeps reappearing :( [10:51] I'll check with cyphermox if there's a reason for that timeout [10:51] +++ [10:52] Huh, he's also the maintainer for Debian's grub, it's surprising we would do things differently [10:53] https://people.phys.ethz.ch/~myczko/dphys-config-xenial-fix-grub [10:54] Did you consider sending that patch? I mean, I'm not sure me being the middle man is very useful :) [10:54] to whom? [10:54] it's not really a patch. it's some script fixing what others break [10:54] and it's reported to console, however still things work, normally just fine, except it's UGLY! [10:55] Well, it's not like it's a works breaking change indeed, but if it annoys you, might as well fix it for good.. no? [10:56] Anyway, this will likely persist for xenial [10:57] But at least let's get this fixed in Bb (whatever it ends up being called) [10:58] The fix is therefore : change the grub package to have a 0 timeout [10:59] (going running now, see you later) [11:41] it also happened to me on 17.10, haha [11:41] Bb? [12:04] The next Ubuntu release? [13:39] lol [13:39] "Bionic Beaver" [13:40] "bionic" it is :)