[03:02] <dax> @comment 77371 fyc ban, 7d
[05:48] <dax> @comment 77373 repeated OT after warnings
[18:01] <acheronuk> :/
[18:12] <acheronuk> looks like I can't edit
[18:14] <dax> acheronuk: can you do @login and @whoami in here please?
[18:28] <acheronuk> @login
[18:29] <acheronuk> @whoami
[18:29] <dax> well that would explain that :3
[18:29] <dax> anyway
[18:29] <dax> !testers-#kubuntu-devel
[18:29] <dax> ah, the list changed i see
[18:30] <dax> !-testers-#kubuntu-devel
[18:31] <dax> ubottu: testers-#kubuntu-devel =~ s/ping.*$/ping yofel, acheronuk, clivejo, soee, BluesKaj, lordievader, mamarley, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information./
[18:31] <dax> Pici: i forget the criteria for factoid editor permissions. if applicable, please schwoop an account for acheronuk
[18:32] <acheronuk> thanks
[18:32]  * Pici looks
[18:33] <dax> acheronuk: on the upside, if/when you get an account, it looks like you already have the syntax figured out \o/
[18:34] <acheronuk> only by searching the logs to see how the last person did it :P
[18:34] <dax> hehe
[18:51] <Pici> acheronuk: can you try a @login ?
[18:51] <acheronuk> @login
[18:51] <acheronuk> :)
[18:54] <acheronuk> thank you
[19:18] <urgodfather> hello room, i got banned from the ubuntu channel and i have no idea why. can someone explain?
[19:19] <ikonia> urgodfather: hi there
[19:19] <urgodfather> ikonia hi
[19:20] <ikonia> I re-banned you from #ubuntu as the last time you where in the channel, your behaviour and response to being asked to follow the ubuntu channels rules was unacceptable
[19:20] <ikonia> I'd placed the ban on your webchat identity and now you're not using that, so I replaced the ban
[19:20] <urgodfather> ?
[19:20] <urgodfather> what are you talking about?
[19:21] <ikonia> urgodfather: the last time you where in the channel you where tying to get your disk array to get support from the channel
[19:21] <ikonia> trying to pretend it was ubuntu, until you had to confirm it was not actually ubuntu help you needed
[19:21] <urgodfather> ?
[19:21] <ikonia> when you where asked to stop, you continued and tried to argue it then rejoined #ubuntu using the nickname "fagbot"
[19:21] <urgodfather> thats not me
[19:22] <ikonia> yes it was you
[19:22] <urgodfather> i think you have me confused with someone else
[19:22] <urgodfather> got logs?
[19:22] <ikonia> I don't
[19:22] <ikonia> yes
[19:22] <urgodfather> can i please see?
[19:24] <ikonia> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/07/12/%23ubuntu.html
[19:26] <urgodfather> that's 3 months old
[19:26] <urgodfather> firstly
[19:27] <ikonia> it is 3 months old
[19:27] <urgodfather> secondly, 3 months ago i was in training. however, I do leave my pc logged  on here at the office and i recognize the issue that this person is describing. they ask me for help and i told them to use my pc to get on ubuntu channel
[19:28] <urgodfather> i appologize for their misbehavior
[19:28] <ikonia> then why are you using multiple nicks and talking in #ubuntu-devel
[19:28] <ikonia> at the same time
[19:28] <urgodfather> merely just to get answers
[19:29] <urgodfather> which i was referred here.
[19:29] <wxl> why would someone else use your nick?
[19:29] <urgodfather> not everyone knows what IRC is
[19:30] <urgodfather> and to answer why i opened webchat to reach out, was to figure out if it was an name ban or ip ban
[19:31] <ikonia> so there was also an incident in 2011
[19:31] <ikonia> where you fall out with someone and start making negative homosexual references to them because you don't like them
[19:31] <ikonia> in the same way you joined as "fagbot" when you didn't like being told what to do
[19:31] <ikonia> so I personally don't think this is someone else
[19:31] <ikonia> as the homosexual response to something you don't like is consistent
[19:31] <urgodfather> that is a far stretch
[19:32] <ikonia> I don't think it is
[19:32] <ikonia> it shows the same negative response to something you don't like from the user urgodfather
[19:32] <ikonia> so I personally don't believe this was "someone else"
[19:32] <ikonia> being honest
[19:32] <urgodfather> comparing actions from 7 years ago to something that i didnt even do?
[19:33] <urgodfather> talk about grudges
[19:33] <urgodfather> geez
[19:33] <wxl> protecting users
[19:33] <wxl> that's the goal
[19:33] <ikonia> there is no grudge
[19:33] <wxl> now since you have an IP ban, perhaps you should approach this through your workplace
[19:33] <ikonia> we track users who cause a problem
[19:33] <wxl> since it means the entire workplace is banned
[19:33] <ikonia> and I'm showing that your username has shown the same behaviour when it's had problems before
[19:34] <wxl> obviously management will have someway to verify their identity and vouch for you in particular
[19:34] <urgodfather> look at todays logs, where i had been active all day asking for help with no negativity
[19:34] <ikonia> hence why I don't believe it was someone else
[19:34] <ikonia> I'm not referencing saying "you screwed up in 2011 - so you can't screw up again"
[19:34] <ikonia> I'm saying based on the history I don't believe what you are saying
[19:36] <urgodfather> thats fine, dont believe me. but believe that if you were to tally up all of my activity in the channel since registration, that ultimately i have muffed up twice by your allegations, which is still only a fraction of overall activity
[19:36] <ikonia> I'm not disputing you can behave
[19:36] <ikonia> I'm saying when you don't get the info you want how you want it, you miss-behave
[19:36] <ikonia> so basically we have to give you what you want or you cause a problem
[19:37] <urgodfather> ok well i havent gotten answers today and i havent misbehaved
[19:37] <urgodfather> so that should be proof in its own
[19:37] <ikonia> you've been given a lot of answers on your dhcp problem
[19:39] <urgodfather> really? maybe i didnt see them, honestly what i did see is that my dns settings would prevent internet traffic. im at work, so if something was said that potentially would help, i would love to see it b/c i didnt
[19:39] <ikonia> people have given you information on how to debug it,
[19:39] <urgodfather> not calling you a liar, genuinely did not see it
[19:40] <ikonia> I'm also not convinced it's an ubuntu install either
[19:40] <ikonia> based on the log formatting from dhcp
[19:40] <urgodfather> please show log so i can see this advice
[19:40] <ikonia> but again thats just a personal opinion
[19:40] <ikonia> !logs
[19:40] <urgodfather> would you like a screenshot?
[19:40] <ikonia> not really no
[19:40] <ikonia> I'm happy to believe you on that, it just doesn't look right to me
[19:41] <urgodfather> what doesnt?
[19:42] <ikonia> the bottom line is, I'll be remove the ban on your use of #ubuntu, but need to make it clear that the homosexual insults won't be tollerated, and it is your responsibility to manage who access your computer
[19:42] <urgodfather> https://ibb.co/gjAa1R
[19:42] <ikonia> I suggest you read the guidelines of using the channel, as post this chat there won't be any more warnings around it
[19:43] <urgodfather> no more homo references
[19:43] <urgodfather> got it
[19:43] <urgodfather> will not happen again
[19:43] <urgodfather> can i pls see those recommendations for debugging
[19:43] <ikonia> I've given you the link to the logs
[19:43] <ikonia> and it's also at the bottom of your screen shot
[19:43] <ikonia> !guidelines | urgodfather
[19:44] <ikonia> I suggest you browse those to make sure there is no miss-understanding in future
[19:44] <ikonia> urgodfather: are you serious
[19:44] <ikonia> you're trying to evade the ban while we are tlaking in here
[19:44] <ikonia> ahhh - my apologies, my screen had locked on the logs
[19:44] <urgodfather> what do you mean?
[19:45] <ikonia> totally my fault - it made it looked like you had joined, my session had frozen, apologies, my fault
[19:46] <ikonia> urgodfather: I've removed the ban in #ubuntu, please make sure you understand the guidelines before rejoining
[19:46] <ikonia> thank you for joining this channel to sort this out
[19:51] <urgodfather> thanks for lifting that ban
[19:52] <ikonia> no problem, please keep in mind what we spoke about in here
[19:52] <urgodfather> forgive my ignorance but which log should i be looking at
[19:53] <ikonia> todays log for ubuntu
[19:53] <urgodfather> btw you guys take that logging serious dont ya. 10 yrs? man thats a lot.
[19:53] <urgodfather> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/10/24/
[19:53] <urgodfather> ive made it this far
[19:53] <ikonia> ok ?
[19:54] <urgodfather> i think i found it
[19:54] <ikonia> great
[19:55] <urgodfather> any way to turn the colors off
[19:55] <urgodfather> i cant read half of it
[19:55] <urgodfather> <~~ colorblind
[19:56] <ikonia> use the text version rather than html
[19:58] <urgodfather> so, what debug method are your referencing?
[19:59] <ikonia> it's showing you that you're getting dhcp offers - so the problem isn't your dhcp server
[19:59] <urgodfather> really?
[20:00] <ikonia> yes if you read the text
[20:00] <urgodfather> any way to verify this
[20:00] <ikonia> verify what
[20:01] <urgodfather>  your claim. i mean ive rebuilt this thing twice today and i get the discover, and give the offer but the client never gets it
[20:01] <ikonia> what claim ?
[20:01] <ikonia> you can see the server is offering an IP address
[20:01] <ikonia> you can snoop the interface if you want, but I'm not sure what more you want to confirm
[20:02] <ikonia> but this channel isn't really for support
[20:02] <urgodfather> yep, but the client doesnt recieve and do a dhcp request
[20:02] <ikonia> so you're welcome to /part this channel and take it back to ubuntu
[20:02] <urgodfather> i agree
[20:02] <urgodfather> no homo stuff either. best behavior
[20:03] <ikonia> so was that actually you then ?
[20:03] <ikonia> (honesty is always more welcome)
[20:03] <urgodfather> im taking responsibility for it regardless
[20:03] <ikonia> fair enough
[20:03] <urgodfather> it was my name so its undisputable
[20:03] <ikonia> ok
[20:05] <urgodfather> hey btw that ban isnt lifted
[20:06] <ikonia> isn't it ?
[20:06] <urgodfather> [16:06.09] ERROR: #ubuntu Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[20:06] <ikonia> sorry, I missed one
[20:06] <ikonia> there you go