[00:00] <TJ-> Jordan_U: a screenshot of systemd-analyze critical-chain: https://postimg.org/image/95tvyrd7fv/
[00:00] <nacc> TJ-: oh ok, sorry, i'm only half listeninng :)
[00:00] <maszlo> TJ-: is it worth trying to purge laptop-mode out and reinstalling that?
[00:00] <TJ-> Jordan_U: this is where nacc spotted the read-only rootfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25802659/
[00:00] <TJ-> maszlo: no, not now it's disabled.
[00:01] <hylian> pr070cal: is everything working now, man?
[00:01] <nacc> TJ-: are theere actually two batteries?
[00:01] <AndrewDubya> is it possible to remove the dock in the new ubuntu 17.10? I use the dash to panel plugin so I don't need a separate dock
[00:01] <TJ-> Jordan_U: this was systemd-analyze blame: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25803202/
[00:01] <TJ-> nacc: apparently yes, BAT0 and BAT1
[00:01] <nacc> TJ-: is it possibly to physically remove BAT0?
[00:03] <TJ-> nacc: I don't know. I did suggest maybe one battery is playing silly blighters but we've not tried that. maszlo can that be done? remove one battery?
[00:03] <maszlo> Jordan_U: when boots incorrectly it still does show that gdm is running from systemctl
[00:03] <maszlo> TJ-: yeah i have atttempted to remove the one.  only one is removable
[00:04] <TJ-> Jordan_U: we noticed the local-fs.service was taking around 26 seconds to be ready and we thought an fsck might be running but we were able to discount that via /run/initramfs/fsck.log
[00:04] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Output of "dmesg" from a failed boot would be helpful.
[00:05] <TJ-> Jordan_U: we've checked the volume is OK. There was an fsck message about the superblock time being in the future which is why we wanted to fix the time.
[00:05] <hylian> /leave
[00:05] <TJ-> Jordan_U: dmesg with systemd_loglevel=debug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804737
[00:05] <maszlo> TJ- Jordan_U BAT0 is the internal BAT1 can be removed
[00:07] <TJ-> Jordan_U: this is a battery-start dmesg without debug logging (easier to see the "EXT4-fs (sda6): re-mounted" messages) http://paste.ubuntu.com/25802664/   and this is dmesg with AC power: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804176/
[00:08] <TJ-> maszlo: can you pastebin another dmesg log now we have laptop-mode disabled please?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Please pastebin the /etc/fstab .
[00:09] <maszlo> TJ-: not sure if this means anything useful but from a failed battery boot timedatectl does not run
[00:09] <maszlo> TJ-: Jordan_U "Failed to query server Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.timedate1': timed out
[00:11] <TJ-> Jordan_U: things like this are a big clue: "Oct 23 18:10:46 T450s gdm3[1932]: GdmLaunchEnvironment: Failed to set owner of /var/lib/gdm3: Read-only file system"
[00:11] <TJ-> Jordan_U: /etc/fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804041/ lsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804062/ blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804095/
[00:12] <TJ-> Jordan_U: systemd generators (/run/systemd/generator/) http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804297/
[00:12] <TJ-> Jordan_U: "cat /proc/mounts": http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804455/
[00:13] <TJ-> Jordan_U: /run/initramfs/fsck.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804460/
[00:14] <maszlo> TJ-: dmesg after disabling laptop-mode http://paste.ubuntu.com/25805504/
[00:15] <TJ-> maszlo: thanks :)
[00:16] <maszlo> TJ-: i have to make a call to explain why i didnt leave work yet lol
[00:17] <TJ-> maszlo: that's neat, the re-mounted messages are all together now! [    6.579552] EXT4-fs (sda6): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,data=ordered,commit=600
[00:17] <TJ-> maszlo: OK!!
[00:17] <jrgilman> maszlo maximum overtime rules?
[00:18] <TJ-> I don't think I've ever had an issue this complex with so many logs and no clear clues
[00:20] <Bashing-om> -or this many people looking over your shoulder, wondering what to do next :P -
[00:20] <TJ-> maszlo: can you edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and put the "  systemd.log_level=debug" right at the end of the line, just before the final "  then update-grub ? It seems like it is ignored if it is prior to a kernel parameter
[00:21] <TJ-> Bashing-om: LOL yeah.
[00:23] <maszlo> TJ-: back.. okay will change those parameters
[00:24] <maszlo> TJ-: that was the issue i was fighting before, i didnt put it inside he last "
[00:26] <maszlo> jrgilman: no over time, just need to make sure dont get a search party sent after me for staying at the office for 4hrs unexpectedly
[00:26] <TJ-> maszlo: oh!!!
[00:26] <TJ-> maszlo: if you want to pause this and resume another time...! it has become a bit of a marathon
[00:27] <TJ-> maszlo: it'd probably be cheaper and quicker to fed-ex the machine to me :D
[00:28] <maszlo> TJ-: lol
[00:29] <maszlo> TJ-: yeah might be best to call it a night.  run a new full dejavu back to the nas at home and take it with brute force tomorrow
[00:31] <TJ-> maszlo: if you can get us the latest dmesg with debug before you go that'd be great, that'll give us some breakfast-time reading :)
[00:33] <maszlo> TJ-: it will not be until i catch up on all the work i kind of ignore here today that i take it under the knife so that sounds good to me
[00:33] <maszlo> i still might pop in a hdd tonight and verify that fresh install on drive boots normal before messing with this ssd
[00:33] <TJ-> maszlo: that's a good plan
[00:34] <maszlo> TJ-: once again thank you. take care
[00:37] <TJ-> maszlo: the reason for the boot menu ... you remember I said about the boot_good flag? GRUB fails to write it due to the read-only file system
[00:57] <underd0g> quit
[01:01] <wudo_honour> hi.  have any body known about OSCP
[01:16] <snadge> dns search domains seem to be ignored in vpn connections, which is rather annoying
[01:17] <snadge> i have to put them in globally for them to work
[01:17] <snadge> but i only want to use them, when im connected to the vpn
[01:35] <ramin> hi
[01:52] <docmur> Hey, does anyone have problems using CraveTV on Ubuntu 17.04?  I've allowed flash, updated Chrome and Firefox and still I can't get anything to play :S
[02:28] <snadge> why was window drag changed from alt to meta? and how do i change it back? :p
[02:30] <snadge> is that a gnome thing?
[02:30] <snadge> i also want to move the window controls back to the left.. lol
[02:31] <snadge> my work pc runs lts.. and its doing my head in switching between that and my home pc, and im not upgrading it
[02:34] <snadge> is it bed time or something? :P
[02:38] <snadge> in case anyone was wondering.. gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout close,minimize,maximize:
[02:41] <snadge> gnome-tweak-tool can also change window drag from super back to alt.. thank god for that.. it would be nice if those instructions were contained in the release notes
[02:49] <asynec> I have a Asus Strix X99 motherboard that suposedly works great with Linux. However, all of my bluetooth devices are individually dropping after only a few minutes of being connected. Can anyone else?
[02:59] <asynec> Can anyone help*
[03:40] <Sveta`> snadge: hi
[03:41] <Sveta`> snadge: have you got it all fixed?
[03:42] <Sveta`> snadge: for adding it to release notes, a bug report may be needed
[03:56] <aaap> hello guys
[03:56] <aaap> May i know is chronium browser worth using compare to firefox?
[04:16] <sentinael> Is there anybody out there? Just nod if you can hear me...
[04:18] <Espopore> PIIIIIIIING
[04:19] <sentinael> Anybody wanna weigh in on an favorite ncurses apps
[04:20] <sentinael> mc for me
[04:22] <Espopore> Clonezilla
[04:23] <Espopore> chu Clonezilla ne kapablas kopii Freebsd?
[04:26] <Sveta`> Espopore: ask ##esperanto
[04:29] <Espopore> can that shit... Clonezilla copy the whole hdd with Freebsd?
[04:32] <sentinael> greentree park in 5 no response go
[04:33] <parallels> hello all
[04:33] <sentinael> Oi mate!
[04:36] <sentinael> ...#! bye for now
[04:55] <Espopore> ubuntu is cool
[04:55] <Espopore> hehe
[04:56] <Espopore> tell about your experience with ubuntu
[04:56] <doofy> #debian rulez
[04:57] <Espopore> jaja
[04:57] <doofy> Nönö
[04:57] <Espopore> what about Slackware?
[04:58] <doofy> Archlinux, on any platform
[05:06] <jem_> hello
[05:08] <Espopore> Archlinux doesn't support i686!
[05:08] <Espopore> fek!
[05:08] <Espopore> not nice! not nice!
[05:08] <Espopore> jem_, hi
[05:09] <doofy> nice, in intelligence
[05:10] <doofy> I can google what I'm never known before
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Espopore: this is the ubuntu support channel here
[05:10] <Espopore> wow...
[05:10] <Espopore> ok
[05:10] <jem_> It is possible to share a partition between win 10 and ubuntu 17.04
[05:11] <doofy> So what? Questionmark, did I ever make you clever?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> doofy: stop the offtopic chitchat
[05:12] <doofy> Sorry
[05:13] <Espopore> jem_, use SAMBA!
[05:13] <Espopore> it is also cool
[05:13] <jem_> SAMBA?
[05:13] <doofy> Developer are welcome, which centuary?
[05:13] <hateball> jem_: Ubuntu has no problem reading/writing NTFS partitions, but Windows can't handle ext4
[05:13] <jem_> great, i will check it
[05:13] <doofy> 21?
[05:14] <hateball> jem_: SMB is for sharing resources over the network
[05:14] <jem_> ok, SAMBA it is to share the resources right?
[05:15] <jem_> like a network between 2 pcs?
[05:15] <jem_> i have a pc, with double boot
[05:15] <doofy> The time has anxious for the pyramids
[05:16] <jem_> win 10 and ubuntu 17.04
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !ot | doofy
[05:16] <jem_> and i have a third partition where i was saving my files with win10
[05:16] <jem_> but, i'd like to use the same partition
[05:16] <jem_> to save my ubuntu files
[05:17] <jem_> i mean, personal files and code but from ubuntu
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> jem_: /mnt or /media
[05:17] <jem_> i tried 2 ways but does not work
[05:18] <jem_> additionally, i dont know if the logic integrity of partition could be compromised
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> jem_: ubuntu can handle ntfs partitions to read
[05:19] <jem_> so, it is good idea share a partition for these 2 operative systems?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> jem_: depends what you wanna do exactly
[05:20] <jem_> ok i'd like to use it something like
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> jem_: in my opinion, i would use external storage to share between 2 different Os
[05:20] <luxio> How do I set the clock at the top to 12h instead of 24h?
[05:20] <jem_> separate software from data
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> luxio: wich ubuntu
[05:20] <luxio> lotuspsychje: Artful
[05:20] <jem_> i had this practice with windows
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> luxio: gnome tweak tool perhaps
[05:21] <jem_> but in ubuntu i dont know
[05:21] <luxio> lotuspsychje: I only see toggles for "date" and "seconds"
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> jem_: in windows your data stays on /home
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> luxio: perhaps dconf-editor then?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> jem_: in ubuntu sorry
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg
[05:22] <alkisg> Morning lotuspsychje, morning all! :)
[05:23] <jem_> i'd like can to for example
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> jem_: did you check your /mnt or /media ?
[05:24] <jem_> yes, i checked
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> jem_: no windows partition?
[05:24] <jem_> but the partition it is only read
[05:24] <jem_> and i cant create files there
[05:25] <jem_> i checked ntfs config tool too
[05:25] <jem_> but it does not work
[05:26] <jem_> at least i think
[05:26] <jem_> i dont know if i missing some step
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> jem_: i would not reccomend that, but you could try with permissions
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | jem_
[05:28] <jem_> i will check
[05:28] <jem_> thanks
[05:28] <jem_> but this is a good practice?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> jem_: lemme ask, if you want a new file on windows partition, why dont you create one from windows?
[05:29] <quidnunc> /etc/X11/Xsession: 6: export: Xorg.mandatory.path: bad variable name
[05:29] <jem_> ok, i want to test coding
[05:29] <quidnunc> ^ can't login and I see that in .xsession-errors
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> jem_: explain a bit
[05:29] <jem_> like node files or something like that
[05:30] <jem_> and i want to test any time
[05:30] <quidnunc> This was a sudden change with no change on my part to configs
[05:30] <jem_> or continue coding in any time
[05:30] <jem_> from any SO
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> jem_: for testing, id reccomend dragging windows files on an external media, then test on your ubuntu
[05:33] <jem_> but now i think is better shared files with service like dropbox
[05:33] <alkisg> quidnunc: grep -r mandatory /etc/X11/
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> quidnunc: can you detail from the start plz, ubuntu version, whats happening?
[05:33] <jem_> or something like that
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> jem_: sure, i would let ubuntu's file structure as it is for safety,etc
[05:34] <jem_> yes
[05:34] <jem_> thanks for all
[05:34] <doofy> sudo youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7oQEPfe-O8 eh console.https://translate.google.de/?source=osdd#auto/en/konsolenfetischist herman elite greets your dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'|grep -v /var/lib/dpkg/status| sed -e 's/://'|awk '{printf "%-40s %-36s %-36s %-16s \n",$1,$2,$3,$4 }'| grep debian.tu-bs.de
[05:34] <hateball> jem_: If you're using Windows 10, then it's likely using "fast startup" which doesnt properly unmount the partitions, and that makes Ubuntu only access them read-only
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !ops | doofy offtopic spam
[05:35] <doofy> grep?
[05:35] <dax> doofy: let's stick to actual technical support in here, please
[05:35] <dax> as you have been told several times now
[05:36] <doofy> Sorry, Sir, dax ? Realy, your name is "dax"
[05:38] <doofy> I want only thank for your help, dear developer
[05:38] <Sveta> what is your first language?
[05:39] <doofy> German and I#m ashamed of it
[05:39] <doofy> I want to be a human
[05:39] <illuminated> why are germans ashamed to be germans?
[05:39] <Sveta> doofy: you can click here >>> #ubuntu-de <<<
[05:39] <illuminated> I don't get it
[05:39] <Sveta> my grandparent is a bit german, it is ok
[05:39] <doofy> Because of: KZ
[05:39] <quidnunc> lotuspsychje: I try to login from the display manager, screen goes black for 1 second and the get dumped back into the DM
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> quidnunc: ubuntu version?
[05:40] <Sveta> doofy i sent you a message
[05:40] <doofy> 17.10
[05:40] <Sveta> quidnunc: did it work before?
[05:40] <quidnunc> alkisg:/etc/X11/Xsession.d/70gconfd_path-on-session:  export MANDATORY_PATH=${GCONF_PREFIX}/${DESKTOP_SESSION}.mandatory.path
[05:40] <quidnunc> Sveta: Yes stopped working today
[05:40] <quidnunc> lotuspsychje: 17.10
[05:40] <hateball> quidnunc: if you've run GUI apps as sudo/root, make sure you are the owner of ~/.Xauthority
[05:41] <illuminated> all I know about germans is this... at one time the german scientists were at the height of the scientific world.  the united states' domination in the area of space exploration, rocketry, psychology, etc was due to the importation of german scientists pre- and post-WWII.
[05:41] <quidnunc> hateball: Yes I am
[05:41] <illuminated> and it took a coalition of the whole fucking world to defeat the Germans cuz the germans are so fucking awesome
[05:41] <alkisg> quidnunc: it sounds like one of those 2 lines have spaces there. Can you edit that file, and change it to this? echo "export MANDATORY_PATH=${GCONF_PREFIX}/${DESKTOP_SESSION}.mandatory.path" > /tmp/badline
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !ot | illuminated
[05:42] <alkisg> quidnunc: then try to login again, and finally paste /tmp/badline here
[05:42] <alkisg> quidnunc: also, paste your .dmrc, if you have one
[05:44] <quidnunc> alkisg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25807212/ <- .dmrc
[05:44] <Sveta> quidnunc: you updated something?
[05:45] <quidnunc> Sveta: Not besides system updates, but even then I don't see a package that would touch anything relevant
[05:45] <alkisg> quidnunc: nothing wrong with .dmrc, try changing that problematic line
[05:45] <quidnunc> trying
[05:46] <quidnunc> alkisg: /tmp/badline is empty
[05:46] <alkisg> There's also a /var/lib/AccountsService/users/quidnunc file that contains session info, check if that one has spaces in sessions etc
[05:46] <quidnunc> alkisg: wait I forgot the quotes
[05:47] <quidnunc> alksig
[05:47] <alkisg> quidnunc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25807231/ if you want a copy/paste version
[05:47] <quidnunc> alkisg: Spaces in sessions? I don't see any spurious spaces
[05:48] <doofy> https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&biw=1280&bih=689&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=melancholia+d%C3%BCrer&oq=melancholia&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0l10.9721.9721.0.14378.1.1.0.0.0.0.108.108.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.107....0.fLz3EtGx-hM
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !ops | doofy offtopic pastes
[05:48] <dax> oh for god's sake
[05:49] <quidnunc> alkisg: Okay, now login worked but badline is still empty
[05:49] <alkisg> quidnunc: can you put your modified file to pastebin?
[05:50] <quidnunc> confd_path-on-session?
[05:50] <quidnunc> alkisg: confd_path-on-session?
[05:50] <alkisg> quidnunc: what is that, the contents of badline?
[05:50] <quidnunc> alkisg: badline is empty
[05:50] <alkisg> Yes, that one
[05:50] <alkisg> The 70gconf file
[05:51] <quidnunc> alksig: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25807246/
[05:51] <alkisg> quidnunc: yes you modified it wrong
[05:51] <alkisg> I had put an  "echo" in front
[05:51] <alkisg> Please use the last version I posted: (08:47:51 πμ) alkisg: quidnunc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25807231/ if you want a copy/paste version
[05:52] <alkisg> quidnunc: wait
[05:52] <alkisg> currently, what's the output of "env" in your session?
[05:52] <quidnunc> my mistake
[05:52] <alkisg> env|grep PATH
[05:54] <quidnunc> alkisg: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25807262/
[05:54] <alkisg> quidnunc: the problem is "Ubuntu on Xorg" as DESKTOP_SESSION
[05:55] <alkisg> quidnunc: Xsession scripts aren't prepared to handle desktop sessions with spaces in their names
[05:55] <alkisg> Let me see if this happens in a VM of mine...
[05:56] <quidnunc> alkisg: Alright. That was created automatically though, and don't know why it would suddenly start causing a problem
[05:57] <sohail-ahmed> I can locate a file using locate in one of /usr/lib directory but cant see it with nautalus, any help?
[05:57] <quidnunc> alkisg: Actually I'm not sure if it was created automatically, but it certainly wasn't changed manually recently
[05:58] <quidnunc> sohail-ahmed: Does the file start with a "."
[05:58] <quidnunc> ?
[05:58] <alkisg> quidnunc: that name comes from /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu-xorg.desktop, the Name variable,
[05:58] <sohail-ahmed> quidnunc: no
[05:58] <alkisg> yet the correct DESKTOP_SESSION should become ubuntu-xorg, not "Xorg on Ubuntu"
[05:58] <alkisg> Let me check a couple of things...
[05:58] <alkisg> quidnunc: ah, are you using gdm or something like lightdm?
[05:59] <quidnunc> alkisg: yes
[05:59] <alkisg> "or"
[05:59] <alkisg> Select one of those two, don't say yes :)
[05:59] <alkisg> gdm or lightdm?
[05:59] <quidnunc> alkisg: :) I can't remember which one. I was using one until it stopped working and then the other
[05:59] <quidnunc> let me check
[05:59] <quidnunc> I think it's lightdm
[06:00] <alkisg> quidnunc: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[06:01] <quidnunc> alkisg: thanks :) lxdm
[06:01] <alkisg> quidnunc: ok, so you need to report a bug in lxdm
[06:01] <alkisg> quidnunc: in the meantime, edit /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu-xorg.desktop, and put "ubuntu-xorg" in the Name line
[06:02] <alkisg> And undo the 70gconf... file changes
[06:02] <alkisg> quidnunc: or, run update-alternatives x-display-manager to set gdm
[06:02] <quidnunc> alkisg: Thanks for the expert help, I really appreciate it.
[06:02] <alkisg> np
[06:03] <quidnunc> alkisg: Yeah, I was using gdm for a long time but it was failing for some reason that I couldn't figure out.
[06:03] <quidnunc> alkisg: I'll try it again
[06:33] <DevUt> Im trying to change the brightness in my laptop
[06:33] <DevUt> but the hardware keys were not working
[06:33] <DevUt> xbacklight doesnt work too
[06:34] <DevUt> there is not dir under /sys/class/blacklight
[06:34] <EriC^^> DevUt: do you have anything in "ls /sys/class/backlight ?"
[06:34] <DevUt> EriC^^:  I have that dir
[06:34] <DevUt> but it has nothing under it
[06:36] <DevUt> using 16.04 LTS
[06:36] <DevUt> graphics : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 128 bits)
[06:49] <codingquark> Hello, I'm running 16.04, and compiling Caffe. While setting up libhdf5, I removed libhdf5_serial_hl.so.10.0.2 from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. Reinstalling libhdf5-serial-dev doesn't seem to be fixing the issue. What should be done?
[06:57] <maja> wow 17.10 is coooool
[06:57] <maja> but how do i turn on more virtual desktops ?
[07:03] <platzhirsch> How come when I dismiss the distro upgrade dialog I am never able to find it anywhere again?
[07:07] <ducasse> maja: unless i'm mistaken, they're dynamically created
[07:09] <maja> ducasse: yes it seems to be
[07:10] <maja> ducasse: but only on primery display
[07:11] <ducasse> maja: according to the gnome devs, gnome3 isn't tested with or developed for multiple displays
[07:12] <maja> ducasse: what ? essh why ?
[07:13] <ducasse> maja: yeah, exactly.
[07:14] <maja> i mean most of its amazing !
[07:14] <maja> but this is a odd change
[07:16] <maja> i mean most of its amazing !
[07:16] <maja> hehe
[07:16] <maja> ok gnome-tweek-tool fix this up sorta
[07:16] <maja> only get destkops down not accross
[07:24] <thecha> when i disable bluetooth from the systemsetttings-menu the symbol remains 'on' and if i go into the bluetoothsettingsdialog it shows bluetooth is on, how can i shut off bluetooth for good?
[07:27] <SheepMaester> sudo service bluetooth stop
[07:29] <codingquark> Solved, had to reinstall libhdf5-10 and not the -dev
[07:32] <sonu_nk> i have a linode server . installed ubuntu 14 .. can i upgrade it to ubutnu 16 without remove any ubuntu 14 setting website and other data ?
[07:33] <Ben64> sonu_nk: maybe. backup first
[07:34] <thecha> it replied bluetooth stop/waiting, i think it did not stop but is waiting
[07:34] <thecha> how can i force it to stop?
[07:34] <Ben64> thecha: why
[07:40] <james4trek> Anybody awake?
[07:41] <alkisg> !ask
[07:41] <james4trek> ... rude bot? ok great
[07:42] <james4trek> Still don't know if anyone's awake.
[07:42] <alkisg> It's not rude, it's a person that informs you to ask the question
[07:42] <james4trek> vncserver on Ubujtu 10.04 LTS using Xfce4
[07:42] <james4trek> won't connect
[07:42] <alkisg> !eol
[07:42] <james4trek> *a client won't connect remotely
[07:42] <alkisg> 10.04 is unsupported here
[07:43] <Mulf> Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here
[07:43] <james4trek> distro?
[07:44] <ducasse> james4trek: you need to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[07:45] <Mulf> james4trek: Distro may refer to: Linux distribution, a specific vendor's operating system-package composed of the Linux kernel, GNU tools and libraries, additional software based on a package management system.
[07:45] <thecha> has ubuntu fallen fromt he top spot of all gnu distributions?
[07:46] <SheepMaester> thecha: try restarting the service (sudo service bluetooth restart) and then stopping it. If it doesn't work, reboot and try again. If that doesn't work, wait for smarter people than me.
[07:46] <james4trek> This is why Microsoft is winning: ...... forced automatic upgrades unto SaaS slavery; all while Linux communities everywhere say "not supported", and people just say," Fine, I'll reinstall Windows 7, because it 'just works' on the hardware I intend to use it on with its maximally compatible/fast software version.
[07:46] <thecha> SheepMaester→ that's not gonna be too long a wait :P
[07:46] <alkisg> james4trek: windows xp is unsupported by MS
[07:46] <james4trek> I sure hope not! I put my bet on Ubuntu! My PC's all have Ubuntu!
[07:46] <thecha> just kidding
[07:47] <thecha> SheepMaester→ can active bluetooth be used as an in into an otherwise impenetrable system?
[07:47] <Mulf> james4trek, upgrade your ubuntu from 10.04 and boom its supported.
[07:47] <Mulf> Not that hard
[07:48] <ducasse> thecha: 'sudo rfkill block bluetooth' will turn it off
[07:48] <james4trek> Correction (very LITTLE sardonic cynicism intended) : Linux orca 3.16.0-30-generic #40~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 15 17:43:14 UTC 2015
[07:48] <james4trek>  x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:48] <james4trek> I used to use 10.04 at work ... slip of the tongue.
[07:49] <alkisg> james4trek: what's the output of `lsb_release -d`?
[07:49] <SheepMaester> thecha: No idea
[07:50] <thecha> ty
[07:50] <james4trek> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS    .... I always forget that command: thanks!
[07:51] <alkisg> james4trek: it sounds like you haven't apt-updated in a while? Why 14.04.2 instead of 14.04.5?
[07:52] <alkisg> Several bugs might have been fixed in the years that passed since you last updated...
[07:56] <sdfgsdfg> transfering large amount of files with nautilus, it's stuck at some point and I can't see which file its stuck at... any way to fix this ? any interference will result in file being corrupt right ? cant even see which file it is
[07:58] <james4trek> whichpart of the system logs services errors? what is the name of the port block list? Is linux SE still a part of ubuntu by default?
[07:59] <ducasse> 'linux se'? do you mean selinux?
[08:00] <james4trek> yes sorry, sleepy, watching baby who refuses to sleep
[08:01] <sdfgsdfg> yeah babies like shitting allover the place
[08:01] <ducasse> james4trek: ubuntu uses apparmor, but selinux is in the repos. logging is handled by syslog on 14.04, the default firewall is ufw.
[08:01] <james4trek> thank you dukasse
[08:02] <senaa> after installing ubuntu, I chose to boot ubuntu  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ApeSfRXT/S71024-150132%281%29.jpg
[08:03] <senaa> pls check my problem
[08:03] <senaa> duall boot with windows 10
[08:06] <alkisg> senaa: if you press Esc there, you don't see the grub menu?
[08:07] <james4trek> i will depart thank you all
[08:07] <james4trek> ttyl
[08:07] <senaa> alkisg: no ... just direct to windows 10
[08:07] <senaa> when i install easy bcd
[08:08] <senaa> cannot add entry linux
[08:08] <alkisg> senaa: ubuntu uses grub, not easy bcd
[08:09] <senaa> pls give me tutorial
[08:09] <alkisg> senaa: how did you install ubuntu? Normally you use a live cd, and that installs grub
[08:09] <alkisg> Why did you try to use easy bcd?
[08:10] <senaa> alkisg: so install grub via live cd ?
[08:10] <senaa> i use usb
[08:10] <alkisg> senaa: live usb also installs grub
[08:11] <senaa> alkisg: i use easy bcd for read boot loader
[08:11] <alkisg> senaa: easy bcd isn't an ubuntu program, we don't support it here
[08:11] <alkisg> We support grub, which is automatically installed when you install ubuntu
[08:11] <senaa> alkisg: ok wait i will explain my problem
[08:11] <alkisg> Did you see any errors about grub when you installed ubuntu? Did you select not to install grub?
[08:11] <alkisg> OK, explain :)
[08:12] <senaa> alkisg : first i choose.boot.manager ubuntu https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aAopeUiz/S71024-151003%281%29.jpg
[08:12] <senaa> stuck in her https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PxJkfpjM/S71024-150132%281%29.jpg
[08:12] <senaa> *here
[08:13] <senaa> I already install ubuntu
[08:13] <alkisg> senaa: can you boot from a live cd so that we see your grub.cfg?
[08:13] <senaa> alkisg: ok wait
[08:15] <arakash> Using route::resource(), how can I add a "backend" prefix to the generated route names?
[08:16] <DevUt> anyone for me ?
[08:16] <alkisg> !acpi
[08:17] <alkisg> DevUt: have a look at this: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[08:17] <alkisg> Passing e.g. acpi_osi=Windows in the kernel command line might help with acpi/backlight issues... follow instructions from there
[08:19] <senaa> alkisg : give me step https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JsGO9r1c/S71024-151938.jpg
[08:20] <alkisg> senaa: alt+ctrl+t to open a terminal, then: sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:21] <alkisg> senaa: it will show one line, paste it here without uploading image
[08:24] <senaa> alkisg: termbin.com/s4bq
[08:24] <senaa> alkisg: sda6 boot, sda7 swap, sda8 root
[08:25] <alkisg> senaa: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt; cat /mnt/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:28] <senaa> alkisg: termbin.com/xeqc
[08:30] <alkisg> senaa: did you install windows after you installed ubuntu?
[08:30] <kahlil29> \join #servant
[08:31] <Mulf> close kahlil29, but / would do the trick :D
[08:32] <senaa> alkisg: no, i already have windows
[08:32] <alkisg> senaa: hmm weird, ubuntu didn't see your windows installation when you installed it
[08:32] <alkisg> Try to reinstall grub
[08:32] <alkisg> !grub
[08:33] <MacroMan> logrotate doesn't seem to be doing anything on one of my servers. I've checked that /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exists, but not sure why it doesn't run or rotate the logs
[08:34] <senaa> alkisg: ok can you guide me install dual boot ? i will try it
[08:34] <senaa> i will erase ubuntu
[08:34] <alkisg> senaa: the guide is the first link:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[08:34] <alkisg> Follow this guide
[08:35] <alkisg> If you want to reinstall, the guide is: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <kahlil29> lol sorry :P
[08:39] <Guest7841> hello! can anyone tell me how can i make two partitions on my hdd from ubuntu live cd?
[08:42] <MacroMan> Do I have to do any extra setup with logrotate to get it to run?
[08:43] <MacroMan> I've never had to configure it before now for it to run.
[08:44] <Fleuv> Hi, I just upgraded to 17.10 unfortunately my mysql extension for php is not detected. However it seems to be installed.
[08:44] <mike_papa> Hello. In network manager I have "connection information" and vpn options grayed out. WTH?
[08:45] <anibic> I lost my synaptic also
[08:45] <anibic> I uninstalled and purged my synaptic
[08:45] <anibic> how to install it again
[08:45] <mike_papa> Cannot display connection info, or connect to vpn. :(
[08:46] <hateball> anibic: "sudo apt install synaptic"
[08:48] <Guest7841> @hateball: can you explain me how to create two partitions on my internal hdd from ubuntu live cd?
[08:49] <hateball> Guest7841: Liveboot, open Gparted, resize/create as desired
[08:53] <senaa> alkisg: hei
[08:54] <senaa> alkisg : why ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aAiWNzA0/S71024-155305%281%29.jpg
[08:54] <Guest7841> @hateball: i did, i have two partitions /dev/sda1 (smaller) and "New Partition #1" how do i install ubuntu on small one?
[08:55] <alkisg> senaa: use the boot repair paragraph
[08:56] <senaa> alkisg: my internet connected on ubuntu but cannot browsing
[08:57] <senaa> server not found
[08:57] <DevUt> alkisg: I executed the script restarted
[08:57] <DevUt> still nothing
[08:59] <Fleuv> What kind of debugging should I perform to get more knowledge regarding this problem
[09:05] <alkisg> DevUt: that was the quick advice I could offer on backlight, no other ideas, for example it's possible that linux doesn't support it at all (yet)
[09:05] <alkisg> Wait for someone else
[09:05] <alkisg> senaa: can you "ping 8.8.8.8"?
[09:06] <senaa> alkisg : when i run boot repair https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VsQZ0ZjA/S71024-160638%281%29.jpg
[09:07] <sylvainonline> hello, after upgrades 16.04 to 17.10 on my mhd keyboard and my mouse does not work anymore, I arrive on the desk is I can not do anything, sos lol
[09:07] <alkisg> senaa: how did you create your usb stick? E.g. with unetbooting? You need to boot it in efi mode to be able to install efi grub
[09:07] <sylvainonline> ubuntu mate
[09:08] <senaa> alkisg: with yumi installer
[09:08] <alkisg> senaa: create it again with rufus
[09:09] <senaa> and then reinstall ubuntu ?
[09:09] <alkisg> senaa: when you boot a live stick, run this: ls /sys/firmware/efi. If this directory exists, THEN it's in efi mode, and THEN you can install grub
[09:09] <alkisg> senaa: you can either reinstall it or fix grub, whatever you prefer
[09:09] <alkisg> Whatever is easier for you
[09:10] <senaa> alkisg: you recomend rufus or unebotin ?
[09:10] <alkisg> rufus
[09:10] <alkisg> Because unetbootin doesn't support uefi
[09:10] <senaa> ok wait
[09:10] <alkisg> senaa: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[09:11] <alexas> ubuntu update to 17.10 from 17.04 freezed during install, please advice https://0bin.net/paste/GLZLEYbfrq45ktsF#G7NtSasXyA7bNZLQYcLitzaT2AFB0vvNNM3AcsGHXjx
[09:11] <sylvainonline> hello, after upgrades 16.04 to 17.10 on my mhd keyboard and my mouse does not work anymore, I arrive on the desk is I can not do anything, sos lol
[09:11] <sylvainonline> ubuntu mate
[09:11] <alkisg> sylvainonline: can you go to the recovery mode from grub? Does the keyboard work there?
[09:13] <sylvainonline> ignition when I'm in the grub to choose my bone yes
[09:14] <shieldwing> there is also a yumi uefi in beta. i have been using it for quite sometime
[09:14] <hivigo-71> how?
[09:16] <sylvainonline> alkisg ignition when I'm in the grub to choose my bone yes
[09:16] <alkisg> sylvainonline: I don't know what that means, if you're using google translate, it didn't work
[09:19] <DevUt> alkisg: it was working few weeks ago ( and it has worked for months if not year)
[09:19] <DevUt> it broke very recently
[09:19] <ubuntu_> why i cant regster gmx.net free email account from ubuntu live?
[09:19] <alkisg> DevUt: try the older kernel from grub then?
[09:19] <DevUt> hm
[09:20] <sylvainonline> alkisg:  grub works I can choose my bone at startup
[09:21] <liveuser> it ask me to activate javascript in browser but is activated
[09:21] <liveuser> can a live usb can be hacked?
[09:22] <alkisg> sylvainonline: "bone" is this: http://images.clipartpanda.com/dog-bone-clipart-dog-bone.png. What is your language? Try joining your #ubuntu-lang channel...
[09:23] <DevUt> alkisg: booted 2 kernels back but still the problem
[09:23] <sylvainonline> french
[09:23] <alkisg> !fr
[09:23] <sylvainonline> #ubuntu-fr
[09:24] <liveuser> ~coughing~
[09:24] <liveuser> lol
[09:24] <liveuser> whats happening with this laptop
[09:26] <akik> where's the display scaling setting (dpi) in 17.10 ? it's not in settings/displays
[09:28] <alexas> https://askubuntu.com/questions/968468/ubuntu-17-10-update-from-ubuntu-17-04-freezes
[09:32] <akik> google found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/958261/fractional-scaling-gnome-3-26-ubuntu-17-10
[09:35] <senaa> alkisg: you recomend primary or logical ? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/15PHkUrX/S71024-163541.jpg
[09:36] <akik> the thing is, i need to go below 100% in the scaling and it's not available :(
[09:36] <alkisg> senaa: it's gpt, so primary
[09:46] <ubuntu_> anyone understanding this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25808152/ ?
[09:46] <DevUt> flux is even not working with my screen
[09:46] <DevUt> whats happening
[09:49] <schultza> Is there a way to update Ubuntu LTS to the latest libgcrypt that doesnt have the broken RSA method without compiling the source?
[09:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:52] <schultza> BluesKaj: do you know about the RSA in GnuPG?
[09:53] <BluesKaj> schultza, very little
[09:53] <schultza> Or rather, do you know if Ubuntu has an update to prevent the broken RSA (recent news) from being used?
[09:53] <schultza> Something about a update to libgcrypt.
[09:55] <schultza> should be version 1.7.8, but my ubuntu says the latest libgcrypt is 1.5.x or something. How do I get it to the latest version without going to the source?
[09:56] <geirha> schultza: You can see the changelog with:    apt changelog libgcrypt20
[09:56] <schultza> whats the command for that?
[09:57] <geirha> apt changelog libgcrypt20
[09:58] <geirha> Ubuntu 16.04 is very unlikely to get version 1.7.8, but that doesn't mean the security hole is not fixed
[10:02] <schultza> why is it libgcrypt20 and not libgcrypt ?
[10:04] <schultza> thanks for the info. i feel less worried.
[10:08] <root> hallo?
[10:08] <gin> hallo?
[10:08] <gin> anyone here?
[10:09] <gin> ?
[10:09] <gin> ?
[10:09] <alkisg> !ask
[10:13] <SheepMaester> I have a problem with wifi connections. It's a desktop at work, Ubuntu 16.04 dual booted with Windows 10. All works fine in Windows, but with all wireless networks the signal drops at random times for random ammounts of time, often too long (20 minutes). I looked for external drivers for my card but no go. Realtek RTL8812AE
[10:21] <nuxil> hello
[10:25] <aaaa> nuxil: Hello
[10:25] <nuxil> I need my laptop to produce sinusoidal waves. in other words. use it as a function generator for sinus waves. are there any programs that does this ?
[10:25] <nuxil> i seen several for windows. but linux im not so sure.
[10:26] <aaaa> tell one of those programs for windows and i sure we can find the same and for Linux
[10:27] <nuxil> aaaa, test tone generator
[10:27] <nuxil> aaaa, https://www.esseraudio.com/index.php/en/test-tone-generator-en
[10:28] <aaaa> nuxil: can you open this link https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/82112/stereo-tone-generator-for-linux#82114
[10:29] <nuxil> aaaa, you mean siggen ?
[10:30] <Amara> hey, anyone tried zfs root with 17.10 yet? How did it go?
[10:30] <aaaa> no i mean  Audacity
[10:31] <nuxil> aaaa, oh.. it can produce a test signal at given hz ?
[10:31] <nuxil> i have it installed on my win box but rarly use it
[10:32] <aaaa> i guess but i am not sure
[10:35] <nuxil> aaaa, thanks. aucacity can do test tones :)
[10:35] <nuxil> you saved my day :)
[10:36] <aaaa> good to hear it nuxil :)
[10:36]  * nuxil gives aaaa a cookie 
[10:36] <aaaa> only one cookie? :P
[10:36] <MuffinPimp[m]> Is there an easy way to install an Ubuntu Core image from PXE?
[10:36] <nuxil> hey.. dont be greedy now :p
[10:37] <aaaa> i want a bag with cookies :P
[10:58] <iAmSlow> hi i installed radyiotrye but it wont work , it hase some gtk phyton issue i think
[10:59] <iAmSlow> radiotray
[10:59] <iAmSlow>   from gi.repository import Gtk
[10:59] <iAmSlow> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:59] <iAmSlow>   File "/usr/bin/radiotray", line 12, in <module>
[10:59] <iAmSlow>     os.chdir(workdir)
[10:59] <iAmSlow> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/bin/src'
[11:00] <ac1d> hi is there a way to run teamspeak server on raspberry without a Exagear License?
[11:00] <iAmSlow> wtf
[11:00] <iAmSlow> guess will put it in hastebin
[11:01] <iAmSlow> https://hastebin.com/ukexuvepin.sql
[11:02] <iAmSlow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25808466/
[11:02] <iAmSlow> i googled for solution and closes i found was this but it dosent work
[11:03] <iAmSlow> http://mednis.info/use-girequire_versiongtk-30-before-import.html
[11:07] <iAmSlow> guess will just build raditray lite forme source
[11:17] <bumbar> how do i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost-defaults/1.62.0.0ubuntu1 on ubuntu 16.04
[11:19] <alexas> anyone please can help me with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/968468/ubuntu-17-10-update-from-ubuntu-17-04-freezes
[11:23] <mcgarrett> guys... I have an update for nvidia-graphics-drivers-384 and I want to know what is this about. Where can I go?
[11:24] <mcgarrett> Not only changelog, but what was the issue it is solving...
[11:33] <bumbar> i'm trying to do dist upgrade, from 16.04, and get error from do-release-upgrade script: https://dpaste.de/6Sgv
[11:42] <pingwindyktator> I'm getting problem calling "pyenv"  - /usr/bin/env: ‘bash\r’: No such file or directory
[11:42] <pingwindyktator> Can someone help me?
[11:47] <nakasd> hello
[11:47] <BluesKaj> bumbar, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-ipgrade, then sudo do-release-upgrade. Also make sure the LTS only upgrade flag is disabled in your package manager
[12:25] <bjorkintosh> resolv.conf keeps reverting to 127.0.1.1 anyone know why?
[12:25] <bjorkintosh> I don't need it to do that at all. i've tried unlinking it from network manager's resolv and whatnot. still keeps overwriting it.
[12:27] <baconology> what the fastest and best way to backup/image my installation?
[12:27] <baconology> it works now, and i want to checkpoint it before i fuck it up
[12:27] <baconology> er, f88k it up
[12:27] <baconology> pardon my franch
[12:30] <TJ-> baconology: if the system is installed using LVM you can take a snapshot
[12:33] <baconology> im not sure that i did that when i installed it cuz i'm a noob
[12:33] <baconology> can i put it on after?
[12:35] <rory> baconology: If you back up the contents of your /home/username directory then that will contain all your files and settings
[12:35] <rory> baconology: but it wouldn't back up any packages you installed, just the settings for them
[12:36] <rory> baconology: that is probably the simplest useful backup you can do
[12:36] <adac> Do I have to restart something with logrotate when I put addional files into /etc/logrotate.d/ ?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> bjorkintosh, if you're on systemd then the setting should bne changed in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:53] <bjorkintosh> BluesKaj, huh. I did change it there.
[12:54] <bjorkintosh> but it keeps getting overwritten.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> bjorkintosh, which ubuntu version are you running ?
[12:55] <bjorkintosh> 17.10
[12:56] <bjorkintosh> oh wait. i didn't notice the systemd there. let me try that.
[12:56] <sufy> hi can someone help me when i install kxstudio repo it contains no packages
[12:56] <bjorkintosh> i changed it under NetworkManager
[12:56] <BluesKaj> bjorkintosh,   /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:57] <renergy> hello there - anybody got google earth running? I installed google-chrome-stable, but am stuck at "Loading in progress"
[12:58] <renergy> when I go to earth.google.com
[12:58] <bjorkintosh> BluesKaj, I don't really want to change it there either. i want it to automatically get it from the router...
[12:58] <bjorkintosh> as it's been doing for the last however many years.
[12:58] <bjorkintosh> this behavior's new.
[12:58] <ace939> hello
[12:59] <bjorkintosh> if I have to change it there, it means that every time I log onto a new wifi, I have to find out what its dns is.
[12:59] <bjorkintosh> whatever is setting it to 127.0.1.1 just needs to be gone.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> sufy, did you run apt update after installing the ppa ?
[13:01] <sufy> BluesKaj: yes i ran that and then i types apt-cache search kxstudio and the only package it found was the repo
[13:02] <sufy> BluesKaj: i had it installed before upgrade to artful but after upgrade the package broke
[13:03] <BluesKaj> sufy, yes one shouls always remove ppas before upgrading to a new release , remove or purge kxstudio, reboot and reinstall it
[13:03] <sufy> BluesKaj: how can i purge it
[13:03] <hateball> renergy: Seems to behave the same for me. Works on ChromeOS tho
[13:04] <TJ-> bjorkintosh: 127.0.1.1 is the dnsmasq private instance controlled by Network Manager. NM handles passing the DNS servers' received by dhclient in the lease into that dnsmasq instance. dnsmasq is then querying those DNS servers correctly.
[13:04] <thestarman99> hey folks!
[13:04] <BluesKaj> sufy, sudo apt purge kxstudio
[13:05] <BluesKaj> also rempve the ppa then reinstall it
[13:05] <sufy> BluesKaj: says unable to locate package
[13:05] <TJ-> bjorkintosh: as long as in the NM connection dialog, on the IPv4 tab, you've *not* set the Method to "Automatic (Address only)" the upstream DNS received via DHCP will be passed to dnsmasq and will be used
[13:05] <sufy> BluesKaj: i think i already removed it and i tried removing the ppa and reinstalling but it won't show me any of the packages to download
[13:06] <sufy> BluesKaj: when i do apt update it says it is an in-release could that mean something?
[13:07] <Sven_vB_> is there a shell command to make unity arrange the desktop icons by name?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> suky, look here http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
[13:09] <alek_> Hi ppl, im using ubuntu 12.04 and im getting around well, i dont wanna upgrade it, is there any downside to this decision of mine?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> sufy, you'll also need to enable GCC5 packages
[13:12] <ntd> 17.10 kernel/4.13 is not available in xenial repos?
[13:12] <TJ-> sufy: can you pastebin the output of apt update?
[13:12] <hateball> !hwe
[13:13] <TJ-> alek_: no security updates
[13:13] <hateball> ntd: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A16.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[13:14] <alek_> it says the system is up-to-date
[13:14] <TJ-> alek_: indeed, because no security updates have been available for it since April
[13:14] <alek_> oh I see what you mean
[13:15] <TJ-> alek_: the messages means that system and the archive have the same package versions, it does NOT means "as of today the system us fully secure"
[13:15] <ntd> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/kernel/
[13:15] <ntd> still 4.11
[13:15] <alek_> what do you recommend 14.04?
[13:15] <sufy> TJ-: sure one moment
[13:15] <bjorkintosh> TJ-, you mean automatic for dns?
[13:16] <sufy> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/mE8x8RTg
[13:16] <TJ-> bjorkintosh: correct. DHCP server sends DNS servers in the lease options. dhclient passes them, via NM, to the local private instance of dnsmasq it controls. That instance is listening always on 127.0.1.1 and will use the upstream DNS servers to satisfy requests
[13:17] <TJ-> sufy: that looks fine. The kxstudio-debian PPA is being read
[13:18] <meyhem> Hello, xorg is not starting after updating to 17.10. I'm getting zlib_1.2.9 is not found error. Libpng depends this version. Should I report this problem for libpng or zlib1g?
[13:18] <sufy> TJ-: could it be possible they didn't add artful packages yet
[13:18] <TJ-> sufy: No, they're there.You can look with a regular web-browser: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/ubuntus/ubuntu/dists/artful/
[13:19] <sufy> TJ-: when i type sudo apt-get install kxstudio-meta-audio* it can't find any of the meta packages
[13:19] <TJ-> sufy: what package are you trying to install that isn't being found?
[13:20] <TJ-> sufy: what arch is it, amd64?
[13:20] <sufy> TJ-: AMD64
[13:20] <ntd> hateball, https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/kernel/ <--- only 4.11?
[13:21] <TJ-> sufy: that's because the meta packages are no longer shipped in artful. I assume they've been replaced with something else. You'll have to check with the kxstudio PPA devs
[13:21] <sufy> TJ-: is there a way i can figure out what to install by browsing the repository
[13:21] <john_rambo> While using Nvidia I used to select VDPAU as video output ... Now I am using Intel ... Which video output should I select ?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> TJ-, sudy i tried the debs on that page and apt gives this error when doing an apt update,  W: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/i18n/Translation-en_CA' as repository 'http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/repo gcc5 InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
[13:22] <TJ-> sufy: the PPA overview page might help
[13:23] <BluesKaj> sufy ^ , looks like their rops are mucked up
[13:23] <TJ-> BluesKaj: "no-free" indicates a Debian-derived pocket
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yup, but the site sya the debs are suppoed to work on ubuntu
[13:24] <sufy> they worked ok on 17.04
[13:25] <TJ-> ntd: see https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kernel/linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-16.04
[13:25] <ntd> which is 4.10?
[13:26] <TJ-> ntd: right, and the separate -edge package has 4.13
[13:26] <sufy> if i search for kxstudio using apt-cache it can't find any package other than the repo
[13:26] <ntd> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge <- 4.11? something i'm not getting here?
[13:27] <TJ-> ntd: ahhh, you've not got the -proposed component enabled in apt sources :)  --> linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge/xenial-proposed,now 4.13.0.16.23 amd64 [installed]
[13:28] <TJ-> ntd: "apt list -a linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge "
[13:28] <urgodfather_> hello room, does anyone have any experience with setting up dhcp server?
[13:29] <urgodfather_> i did everything but it keeps failing
[13:29] <urgodfather_> i can do a pastebin if needed
[13:30] <LTCD> Hi. I am trying to format a memory stick on Ubuntu, it has a Linux OS burned onto it. I get this error: This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; please reinitialize layout of the whole device. (udisks-error-quark, 11)
[13:30] <urgodfather_> https://pastebin.com/yVRE0njg
[13:30] <TJ-> sufy: can show us "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} )"
[13:33] <sufy> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25809334/
[13:38] <LTCD> Nvm done it,
[13:39] <ducasse> urgodfather_: that gives you a pretty good hint on where to start looking, did you read the log output?
[13:39] <TJ-> sufy: I tested that in a 17.10 container. There are no packages with "kxstudio" in their names. The archive presumably has all the packages they use but no virtual/meta packages that depend on the primary packages. As we said earlier, ask the devs that manage that PPA
[13:42] <skinux> How do I fix this? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/6dc6f0bc26842264d23755c700b23585
[13:44] <rubick> exit
[13:44] <sufy> TJ-: the main one i want is cadence
[13:45] <TJ-> sufy: check "apt-cache policy cadence" and see where the candidate package will come from
[13:50] <sufy> TJ-: no candidate for any common packages
[13:51] <hanna> `apt update` etc. fails resolving all domains it tries downloading from (happens for any mirror I try); but `ping` works fine. My `resolv.conf` works fine.
[13:51] <urgodfather> hello room, will someone help me with setting up dhcp server>? it keeps failing and im pretty sure my dhcpd file is right
[13:51] <hanna> Furthermore, even if I deliberately introduce errors into my resolv.conf, `apt update` still immediately tells me it fails resolving the domain - it seems like it doesn't even *attempt* the resolve
[13:54] <skinux> Damn it. mysql-common isn't configured, keeps stopping installation of another package, and dpkg --configure doesn't work.
[13:55] <leftyfb> hanna: please post the full output of apt-get update to pastebin
[13:57] <TJ-> sufy: looks like they don't publish many packages for artful: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25809518/
[13:58] <hanna> leftyfb: http://0x0.st/srIC.txt
[13:58] <pavlos> skinux: https://askubuntu.com/questions/773287/how-to-repair-corrupt-package-installation-mysql ... see the answer voted 8 times, does it help?
[13:58] <TJ-> 18.04=Brillianty Bionic
[13:59] <skinux> I did already paste it https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/6dc6f0bc26842264d23755c700b23585
[13:59] <hanna> leftyfb: http://0x0.st/srli.txt just in case you didn't believe me
[13:59] <leftyfb> hanna: that repo works fine for me .... but for troubleshooting, try using a different one. Like the official repo
[13:59] <hanna> leftyfb: I already tried other repos, it fails resolving ALL addresses
[14:00] <hanna> not also the 'archive.canonical.com' error
[14:00] <hanna> note*
[14:00] <hanna> and every other tool works fine; ping, curl, etc.
[14:00] <hanna> Only apt fails
[14:00] <hanna> It also doesn
[14:00] <hanna> doesn't even attempt the connection; in `strace`
[14:00] <skinux> Oh, boy. It says 5.7 isn't installed
[14:01] <skinux> But it's listed in dpkg --list
[14:01] <hanna> It just immediately gives up without even attempting to connect to any server in my resolv.conf
[14:01] <leftyfb> hanna: do you have anything in /etc/apt/apt.conf ?
[14:01] <TJ-> hanna: any atp conf proxy type settings?
[14:01] <leftyfb> hanna: or try sudo grep -Ri prox /etc/apt
[14:02] <hanna> leftyfb: no proxy. I tried *adding* a proxy, and the only thing that happened is that it failed resolving the domain of the proxy
[14:02] <hanna> Like I said, it fails resolving any addresses
[14:02] <sufy> TJ-: thanks i'll let their devs know
[14:02] <leftyfb> hanna: any proxy settings system wide?
[14:05] <skinux> DIdn't work
[14:05] <hanna> leftyfb: No
[14:05] <skinux> I removed mariadb completely, then reinstalling it, it still complains about mysql-common
[14:06] <leftyfb> hanna: can you get to http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ubuntu in a web browser?
[14:07] <skinux> I hate this shit. the package is broken or not installed, you can't remove it, you can't install it. You're just stuck!
[14:08] <leftyfb> skinux: watch the language please
[14:08] <leftyfb> skinux: do you need to save anything related to mysql at all?
[14:09] <skinux> Well, I'd prefer not to have ot setup databases again, but if I must, I can.
[14:10] <leftyfb> skinux: which package is it hanging on again?
[14:10] <skinux> libmysqlclient20:amd64
[14:10] <hanna> leftyfb: The system does not have a graphical connection, and installing packages inside it is difficult because apt doesn't work. But `curl` works
[14:10] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/6dc6f0bc26842264d23755c700b23585
[14:10] <leftyfb> removing? I don't think that's the package with the problem
[14:10] <leftyfb> hanna: what version of ubuntu?
[14:11] <hanna> leftyfb: http://0x0.st/srl8.txt
[14:11] <leftyfb> skinux: mysql-common is the problem
[14:11] <hanna> leftyfb: 16.04 LTS
[14:11] <leftyfb> hanna: ah right, should have known that
[14:11] <skinux> Yeah, I just can't seem to do anything to fix it.
[14:12] <leftyfb> skinux: try: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-common* /tmp
[14:12] <leftyfb> then try sudo apt-get install -f
[14:12] <skinux> I did, got the same problem
[14:12] <leftyfb> skinux: just now?
[14:13] <leftyfb> skinux: you moved the package info files out of /var/lib/dpkg ?
[14:13] <skinux> NO, I didn't do that
[14:14] <skinux> Okay, I moved that, so do I try apt-get -f again?
[14:14] <hanna> leftyfb: AFK for a bit
[14:14] <leftyfb> skinux: yes
[14:15] <leftyfb> skinux: to confirm, you only moved /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-common* out correct?
[14:15] <skinux> I copied what you did, so Yeah.
[14:15] <skinux> IT appears to have worked, so do I move that back?
[14:16] <leftyfb> skinux: nope
[14:16] <skinux> Then jsut delete that?
[14:16] <tonyyarusso> zz6/away
[14:17] <leftyfb> skinux: just make sure you can install packages (test with nmap or something) and then confirm you can install and remove and reinstall the mysql bits you need. Just to be 100% sure
[14:17] <skinux> I already reinstalled mariadb stuff, so I'm sure it works.
[14:18] <leftyfb> skinux: I would remove it and reinstall it just to be sure your packaging is all in order
[14:18] <leftyfb> again
[14:20] <maheshpec> hello everyone.. after upgrading to artful, i'm experiencing screen flicker when switching between windows.. what info should i gather to raise a bug..
[14:24] <ducasse> maheshpec: what does 'echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE' say?
[14:25] <maheshpec> wayland
[14:26] <ducasse> try logging out and into the x11 session, see if that has the same problem
[14:31] <Emmarof>  /msg NickServ identify 0243570576
[14:31] <tonyt> i dont think you are supposed to be posting that in here lol
[14:32] <Menzador> Emmarof: Change your NickServ password immediately
[14:32] <maheshpec> ducasse: if i logout, i'm worried that i will lose the debugging info about why its happening now
[14:33] <Emmarof> Menzador, i just did
[14:33] <Menzador> :)
[14:34] <ducasse> maheshpec: well, you should be able to get that again easily enough.
[14:34] <maheshpec> okies.. brb
[14:35] <tonyt> tony@localhost:~$ sudo su
[14:35] <tonyt> sudo: PERM_ROOT: setresuid(0, -1, -1): Permission denied
[14:35] <tonyt> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[14:35] <tonyt> any way to fix that?
[14:39] <meyhem> I'm gonna reinstall os after rolling 5 years :/
[14:40] <ducasse> tonyt: i have to ask, why 'sudo su'? does sudo work normally with other commands?
[14:40] <tonyt> just to make sure the password is set
[14:40] <tonyt> but
[14:40] <tonyt> tony@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get update
[14:40] <tonyt> sudo: PERM_ROOT: setresuid(0, -1, -1): Permission denied
[14:40] <tonyt> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[14:40] <tonyt> i cant use sudo at all
[14:41] <meyhem> libpng wants zlib version 1.2.9 but newer version installed with last distro update. I don't know how this happens. so xorg is not starting.
[14:41] <tonyt> ducasse sudo is not working at all
[14:42] <tonyt> not having much luck searching for a solution on google
[14:42] <pavlos> tonyt: what are the perms of /usr/bin/sudo ?
[14:43] <tonyt> pavlos how do i chan that?
[14:43] <tonyt> chan-check
[14:43] <pavlos> tonyt: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[14:43] <ducasse> tonyt: which release is this?
[14:43] <tonyt> tony@localhost:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[14:43] <tonyt> -rwsr-xr-x. 1 root root 102572 Mar 30 2016 /usr/bin/sudo
[14:44] <tonyt> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[14:44] <Menzador> s?
[14:44] <pavlos> tonyt: that's correct
[14:44] <Menzador> But yeah, 644 is right
[14:45] <hggdh> the 's' bit on owner is an indicator the file is setuid to the owner
[14:45] <pavlos> tonyt: sudo echo "testing ..." do you get an error?
[14:45] <hggdh> and yes, this is correct on sudo
[14:45] <tonyt> tony@localhost:~$ sudo echo "testing ..."
[14:45] <tonyt> sudo: PERM_ROOT: setresuid(0, -1, -1): Permission denied
[14:45] <tonyt> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[14:46] <tonyt> sudo anything outputs an error
[14:46] <tonyt> it appears
[14:46] <ducasse> tonyt: are you running this in a regular terminal?
[14:46] <tonyt> yes
[14:46] <Shadowmm> .sysinfo
[14:46] <Shadowmm> !sysinfo
[14:49] <Menzador> Shadowmm: Are you trying to do something?
[14:49] <Shadowmm> no
[14:49] <Shadowmm> i have a system info script
[14:49] <Shadowmm> and its not working
[14:49] <pavlos> tonyt: have you changed hostname of the machine?
[14:50] <ducasse> Shadowmm: if you're trying to test it, then please do that in ##test or somewhere like that
[14:53] <pavlos> tonyt: ls -l /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so
[14:54] <Socs> hello
[14:57] <maheshpec> there's no flicker after logging out and back in
[14:57] <ducasse> maheshpec: in the x11 session?
[14:58] <asunads> ls
[14:58] <asunads> help
[14:58] <asunads> get
[14:58] <maheshpec> yeah.. ducasse
[14:58] <leftyfb> asunads: what can we help you with?
[15:00] <ducasse> maheshpec: ok, so you now know the problem is restricted to wayland. simply use the x11 session instead.
[15:02] <helloworld> hello, I can see that yad has a --splashscreen option, are there any examples on building a splashscreen with a loading bar with yad?
[15:02] <senaa> alkisg: thank you for help me 🙏
[15:02] <tonyt> pavlos no i havent changed the host name. it is a new install
[15:03] <tonyt> tony@localhost:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so
[15:03] <tonyt> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 235224 Mar 30 2016 /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so
[15:03] <senaa> alkisg: I have a question
[15:03] <nacc> helloworld: that's probably better asked upstream (http://sourceforge.net/projects/yad-dialog/)
[15:03] <senaa> alkisg: why does it affect my installation? when install using yumi boot loader is unreadable but using rufus boot loader is readable
[15:05] <pavlos> tonyt: I have a different file size for that file, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 316768 Jul  4 00:37 /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so
[15:05] <LeeJ_> Hi, I have an EC2 AWS server with Ubuntu installed.  I have a cron job running every minute and it fails, and /var/log/syslog tells me: CRON[26837]: (root) CMD (rm eg) -  Where can I find this cron?  I've sudo su root, crontab -e but it's empty....  Is there another place to view crons?
[15:06] <helloworld> nacc: Ill look thru the tickets, thanks
[15:06] <nacc> helloworld: yw
[15:07] <pavlos> tonyt: this is a new 16.04 install but the datestamp is mar 30 2016 ??
[15:07] <leftyfb> LeeJ_: how did you add the cron job?
[15:07] <LeeJ_> I didn't, it's a project I've inherited :s
[15:07] <ducasse> LeeJ_: /etc/cron*
[15:08] <tonyt> pavlos yes
[15:08] <LeeJ_> ducasse: THANKK YOU!!!!
[15:08] <LeeJ_> I have been searching for hours lol
[15:09] <Socs> hello
[15:09] <Socs> can anyone see my message?
[15:09] <alexas> no
[15:09] <Socs> nice
[15:09] <alexas> sorry
[15:09] <LeeJ_> Now more digging now as the top of my file says: "# File managed by Puppet
[15:09] <LeeJ_> "  Lol
[15:09] <alexas> i mean yes
[15:10] <Socs> My editor blurs my messages
[15:10] <alexas> thought the question is a little bit self obvious, anyway excuse me.
[15:10] <alek_> hi ppl, after upgrading to 14.04 i don't have headphones recognized, actually it says headphones, but i can hear it on my speakers *12.04 i was listening thru my headphones suggestions?
[15:11] <trayd> alek_ check your pulseaudio settings
[15:11] <alek_> ok
[15:15] <alexas> skype stoped workign after update to 17.10, anyone has the same issue?
[15:17] <akik> alexas: what error do you get?
[15:17] <alexas> akik: no error it just doesn't load. i don't know where to look for error
[15:17] <gaoge> 1
[15:18] <akik> alexas: open it from the terminal
[15:18] <alexas> akik: it escaped my mind how to do that at the moment, can you please help?
[15:18] <pavlos> tonyt: I think you need to reboot, select Recovery from the grub menu, drop to a root shell, mount filesystem and as root, apt install sudo again.
[15:18] <akik> alexas: i hope you're using the v5 series client and not the older v4
[15:18] <akik> alexas: i think the name is skypeforlinux
[15:19] <alexas> akik: i downloaded the latest but it wasn't working, it worked under 17.4 this morning
[15:19] <tonyt> k ill give that a shot. thanks pavlos
[15:19] <akik> alexas: microsoft has a forum dedicated for it
[15:19] <alexas> yeah i know didn't want to go the though
[15:20] <gaoge> 1111
[15:20] <gaoge> 6666
[15:20] <akik> alexas: so open a terminal and write skypeforlinux in i
[15:20] <gaoge> hello would
[15:20] <akik> it
[15:20] <gaoge> what
[15:20] <leftyfb> gaoge: can we help you with something?
[15:20] <ducasse> gaoge: stop that, please
[15:21] <gaoge> no
[15:21] <alexas> akik: nothing happens
[15:22] <akik> alexas: it just returns the shell prompt?
[15:22] <alexas> akik: in system processes i can see it running
[15:22] <gaoge> yes
[15:23] <akik> gaoge: i'd suggest you to read the skype forum. there might be somebody else with the same problem
[15:23] <leftyfb> gaoge: What can we help you with?
[15:23] <akik> i meant alexas :)
[15:23] <alexas> akik: thank you for your assistance anyway
[15:23] <akik> alexas: i can try soon too. installing 17.10 now
[15:25] <gaoge> i am is xiaobai
[15:25] <leftyfb> !cn | gaoge
[15:27] <alexas> akik: would be helpful, thanks
[15:30] <tomsotte> where can I find the gtkmm debug symbols package for Ubuntu 17.10?
[15:34] <akik> alexas: skype for linux works for me in a virtualbox. i had to run "apt-get -f install" because there were dependencies that didn't get installed automatically
[15:34] <alexas> alexas: does it works not in a virtualbox as well? mine was
[15:34] <nacc> tomsotte: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[15:34] <akik> alexas: 4 gconf packages
[15:35] <alexas> akik: didn't tell me much, sorry
[15:35] <kostkon> alexas, you could try removing and re-downloading it from skype.com
[15:36] <akik> alexas: these four packages: gconf-service, gconf-service-backend, gconf2-common and libgconf-2-4-
[15:36] <akik> libgconf-2-4
[15:36] <urgodfather> hello room, so i got the service running but i cannot get an ip from it
[15:36] <urgodfather> https://pastebin.com/7RCpyJnQ
[15:36] <alexas> kostkon: i did it doesn't work
[15:36] <akik> alexas: install those 4 packages and try again
[15:37] <kostkon> alexas, ok
[15:37] <akik> alexas: i just tested with skype call testing lady and it works
[15:37] <alexas> akik: are you still in virtual box?
[15:38] <akik> alexas: ye
[15:38] <elopio1> wxl: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/community-council-meeting-20171019/847
[15:39] <elopio1> wxl: can you send the same message to the mailing lists, please?
[15:39] <gaoge> help
[15:40] <ducasse> gaoge: what is the problem?
[15:41] <gaoge> i don't speak english
[15:41] <alexas> akik: ok i will try to install packages and report back
[15:42] <ducasse> !cn | gaoge try this
[15:42] <gaoge> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:43] <ducasse> gaoge: it's /join
[15:43] <wad> Any idea why I can wget a page, get to it via firefox, but chrome insists "The site can't be reached"? O_O
[15:43] <alexas> akik: still doesn't work
[15:43] <gaoge> think you
[15:44] <alexas> akik: i have an issue while upgrading to 17.10 - the system freezed https://askubuntu.com/questions/968468/ubuntu-17-10-update-from-ubuntu-17-04-freezes - it must be it
[15:44] <ducasse> wad: chrome might be set up to use a proxy?
[15:45] <wad> Aha! Went incognito, and it worked. STUPID COOKIES!
[15:46] <kostkon> wad, was it for just one site?
[15:46] <wad> Yep
[15:50] <akik> alexas: did you re-run the update?
[15:50] <maszlo> TJ-: hungry for some longs? lol Last night i installed a fresh copy of 17.10 on a 16gb M2 in this notebook. pulled boot in debug for both this fresh copy and the 17.04 system that was upgraded to 17.10.
[15:50] <hanna> leftyfb: Hard-coding the right IP into /etc/hosts solves the issue
[15:51] <tomsotte> nacc: omg, ty, you have no idea how many times i've tried to look for them. It may be I've always skipped ubuntu pages because I've never found them to be of any help before this moment
[15:51] <TJ-> maszlo: I was just talking to nacc about it in #ubuntu-discuss... want to join us?
[15:52] <phablet> hello
[15:52] <maszlo> TJ-: This is the fresh install: journalctl http://paste.ubuntu.com/25810306/ and dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25810343/  And then there are the one trying to get working journalctl http://paste.ubuntu.com/25810351/ and dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25810355/
[15:57] <linux50> Hi Everyone. I have an interesting situation. I have a server with a bond0 (eth0, eth2, eth4) with ip 10.10.150.223. I also have a mgmt interface eth1 with ip 10.10.150.3. The issue is that if I shutdown bond0 I should not be able to ping 10.10.150.223 but I can ping it. I have even shutdown all the slave interfaces for bond0 on the switch and it still pings. It looks like the mgmt interface (eth1 has assumed the ip). How is that possible?
[16:00] <crazycoder> hello
[16:00] <crazycoder> i cannot install elasticsearch...i get
[16:00] <crazycoder> Job for systemd-sysctl.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status systemd-sysctl.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[16:00] <linux50> Hi Everyone. I have an interesting situation. I have a server with a bond0 (eth0, eth2, eth4) with ip 10.10.150.223. I also have a mgmt interface eth1 with ip 10.10.150.3. The issue is that if I shutdown bond0 I should not be able to ping 10.10.150.223 but I can ping it. I have even shutdown all the slave interfaces for bond0 on the switch and it still pings. It looks like the mgmt interface (eth1 has assumed the ip). How is that possible?
[16:01] <unoob> i am trying to install ubuntu to my laptop, but when launcing from usb. ubuntu installer can't recognize my hard disk. It can only recognize usb drive. how can i let unbunt recognize my local hard disk?
[16:02] <funtapaz> unoob, UEFI or BIOS?
[16:02] <unoob> i think it's uefi though i've disabled (i thought i do) it.
[16:03] <funtapaz> Is there a reason you disabled UEFI?
[16:03] <ducasse> unoob: make sure the controller is set to ahci
[16:03] <unoob> oh. ubuntu can directly detect to boot from uefi?
[16:03] <funtapaz> yes
[16:03] <funtapaz> You can leave UEFI enabled.
[16:03] <kostkon> unoob, is it a ssd?
[16:03] <unoob> ok. i will restore option and retry it again. thanks.
[16:04] <ducasse> unoob: check if it's ahci at the same time
[16:04] <funtapaz> Now for my own weirdness.
[16:05] <funtapaz> Apparently network manager has decided my router itself is a DNS server, and puts it at the front of the list for the connection i have configured.
[16:05] <funtapaz> And thus my DNS lookups fail
[16:05] <funtapaz> Anyone else experience this and have any hints?
[16:05] <funtapaz> it's spitting out a normal resolv.conf when it runs
[16:06] <funtapaz> and i'd rather not do dns=none in networkmanager.conf
[16:06] <funtapaz> because i want to be able to use the router's config any time i decide to change it
[16:06] <funtapaz> so i keep having to add opendns or google dns to the generated resolv.conf to get any dns lookups to happen
[16:07] <kostkon> !enter
[16:07] <funtapaz> habit
[16:07] <ViperZ28> curious, I have an Ubuntu server with 2 nics (eno0 and eno1), I just upgraded to latest 17.10 but I am unable to add any network interfaces. The network works fine. I even uninstall everything gnome and reinstalled. All I see in Network settings is VPN
[16:08] <funtapaz> Maybe the latest networkmanager is a bit finicky all around then?
[16:08] <ViperZ28> I would like to use Desktop sharing but I am unable to select an interface
[16:08] <funtapaz> I have two nics too
[16:08] <ViperZ28> funtapaz: does network manager show both?
[16:09] <funtapaz> If I try to add them it works, one is on the mobo and the other is some old card I dug up.
[16:09] <Bashing-om> funtapaz: Maybe ? : /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf comment out dns=dnsmasq .
[16:09] <funtapaz> Bashing-om, might be worth a shot, but if it fixes it think it's worth a bug report?
[16:09] <urgodfather> hello room, so i got the isc-dhcp-service running but i cannot get an ip from it
[16:09] <ViperZ28> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FOB05F9y/
[16:09] <urgodfather> https://pastebin.com/7RCpyJnQ
[16:10] <funtapaz> Bashing-om, mind showing me a default 17.10 NetworkManager.conf? Mine doesn't have dns=dnsmasq
[16:10] <urgodfather> anyone???
[16:10] <Bashing-om> funtapaz: Not sure about a bug report . I saw that fix on a launchpad answer .
[16:11] <ViperZ28> funtapaz: I would but I am not sure if something happened during upgrade, I had 17.04 Server and uninstalled and reinstalled so many things that I am confused as to what I should have installed. Also, I don't have Leyland running
[16:11] <funtapaz> I did a 16.04 -> 17.04 -> 17.10 upgrade path
[16:11] <Bashing-om> funtapaz: No can do 17.10 as I have yet to be unstall it .
[16:11] <ViperZ28> I have a 17.10 vm image, one sec
[16:11] <funtapaz> thanks anyway Bashing-om
[16:11] <funtapaz> thanks ViperZ28
[16:12] <ducasse> ViperZ28: are the interfaces set up in /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:12] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: you're getting a DHCP OFFER, idk why your client isn't taking it
[16:12] <alexas> akik: yes I think so
[16:12] <alexas> akik: sorry for a long update, I was away
[16:12] <ViperZ28> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/F6ZTesmN/
[16:13] <funtapaz> ViperZ28, I thought NetworkManager and manual config of interfaces doesn't get along well
[16:13] <ViperZ28> default file
[16:13] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: you've also got bogus DNS addresses in your DHCP config but i don't think that's causing your big problem right now
[16:13] <ViperZ28> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zfOgeaG9/
[16:13] <ducasse> ViperZ28: then you would know what your problem is if you had read the release notes ;)
[16:14] <funtapaz> thanks ViperZ28
[16:14] <funtapaz> mine looks exactly the same
[16:14] <ViperZ28> where are the release notes
[16:14] <ducasse> ViperZ28: try 'sudo apt install ifupdown'
[16:14] <baconology> i used clonezilla
[16:14] <baconology> which looks pretty awesome
[16:14] <baconology> re: Earlier
[16:14] <baconology> thanks all
[16:15] <ViperZ28> ducasse: ifupdown is already the newest version (0.8.16ubuntu2).
[16:15] <Reynardo> does 1080p video from usb flash drive suppose to lag (on raspberry pi)?
[16:15] <unoob> i tried restore to the original default setting (either factory or bios), but ubuntu installer still can't recognize my hard disk.
[16:15] <funtapaz> ViperZ28, if you have a moment and it's not private lemme see your resolv.conf and tell me if your interface configs in network manager show anything weird like putting your gateway on the dns server list
[16:15] <baconology> do i need to go to 17 to take care of this wpa2 bug?
[16:15] <funtapaz> brb
[16:15] <unoob> any other suggestions?
[16:16] <funtapaz> unoob, did you see if it was ahci?
[16:16] <ViperZ28> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/O0s4u3Uf/
[16:16] <unoob> in bios?
[16:16] <funtapaz> yes
[16:16] <unoob>  let me check it
[16:17] <funtapaz> thanks again ViperZ28
[16:17] <ViperZ28> no problem :-)
[16:17] <ViperZ28> ll
[16:17] <ducasse> ViperZ28: odd. netplan has now taken over network configuration, it should generate a config for systemd-networkd by default. for some idiotic reason it can't handle basic things like static addressing etc yet.
[16:18] <ViperZ28> so if I remove the static address it should work?
[16:18] <ViperZ28> When I select Connect on the interface, I get the spinning wheel, then nothing happens
[16:18] <Bashing-om> !krack
[16:18] <unoob> the sys info only states device is m.2. SATA, and 500 GB HDD but no ahci flag
[16:18] <unoob> which section i can check for that?
[16:19] <ducasse> ViperZ28: you could try it, the dhcp interface should work, at least
[16:19] <ViperZ28> all this just to get desktop sharing to work, maybe I should just use tightvncserver
[16:20] <urgodfather> jerichowasahoax what bogus dns are you referencing?
[16:20] <unoob> drives section has SATA-0, SATA-1, and M.2. PCIeSSD-0 enabled.
[16:20] <unoob> but only these three options.
[16:20] <Reynardo> what about lagging video on standart media player
[16:20] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: ns1.internal.example.org
[16:21] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: wherever that's set in the dhcp config, i'd recommend either removing it or replacing it (with 8.8.8.8 , for instance)
[16:21] <funtapaz> unoob, make, model of laptop?
[16:22] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are Google's DNS addresses, in case you were wondering
[16:22] <unoob> ah it looks like find the disk now
[16:22] <unoob> the ahci option is located at sysconf, sata options section instead!
[16:23] <unoob> now it list the disks avaialable now. Great thanks for help!!!!
[16:26] <Reynardo> I have a question. If i'm gonna go to the web to see these tutorials for projects, is it the same in coding here in ubuntu as in raspbian?
[16:26] <ducasse> unoob: yw
[16:26] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: from a programming perspective, linux is linux is linux
[16:27] <jerichowasahoax> code that works in fedora will likely work in ubuntu or in suse or in gentoo or...
[16:27] <ducasse> unoob: ahci has nothing to do with uefi, btw
[16:27] <jerichowasahoax> unless it calls a tool that's extremely specific to that distro, like apt
[16:27] <Reynardo> ok and if someone said in instructions about differences in raspbian jessie and the newest version what can this ubunto be compared to?
[16:27] <cristian_c> hi
[16:27] <dserodio> How do I add a folder to Nautilus' shortcuts in the left sidebar?
[16:28] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: can we see a link to this tutorial you're following?
[16:28] <Reynardo> Ok
[16:28] <urgodfather> jerichowasahoax yeah that network doesnt even need internet access
[16:28] <urgodfather> its for imaging
[16:28] <cristian_c> How could I switch-to/enable evdev, after installed, as input system?
[16:28] <akik> alexas: could you run "sudo apt-get -f install" to see if it complains about some configuration?
[16:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas ?
[16:29] <retrospectacus> Difficuly connecting to ppa.launchpad.net for <apt-get update>. Known issue or solution?
[16:29] <unoob> @ducasse, what does that mean? sorry don't understand hardware well.
[16:29] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: probably wise to set up google dns anyway, so the images will have everything they need for network connectivity later
[16:29] <kostkon> dserodio, bookmarks → bookmark this location in the menu. Does that exist in your nautilus
[16:29] <cristian_c> 0(info: I'm on Aartful 17.10)
[16:29] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: it's better to have and not need, etc
[16:29] <akik> alexas: or after that "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[16:29] <ducasse> unoob: 'ahci' denotes the mode the disk controller operates in
[16:29] <urgodfather> i just need it to hand out an ip so tftp can pass along pxelinux boot img
[16:30] <dserodio> kostkon: I don't think so, it seems there's only a Files menu. I'm using Unity on Ubuntu 17.10
[16:30] <jerichowasahoax> urgodfather: well for that you'll have to figure out why your dhcp client isn't acting on those DHCPOFFERs
[16:31] <jerichowasahoax> and that's the part i'm stuck on
[16:31] <kostkon> dserodio, they've probably removed it like everything else. Welcome to gnome
[16:31] <unoob> but why if i don't choose ahci mode, ubuntu can't recognize the disk?
[16:31] <unoob> the original mode isn't controlled by eufi that kind of thing?
[16:32] <jerichowasahoax> The alternative to AHCI is to emulate old IDE
[16:32] <jerichowasahoax> which is only useful on really old drives
[16:32] <kostkon> dserodio, oh unity. Well you are still using a newer version of gnome
[16:33] <ducasse> unoob: as i said, uefi has nothing to do with this.
[16:33] <Reynardo> Ok i found the link. go see it.
[16:33] <Reynardo> https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-webcam-server/
[16:33] <unoob> ducasse: got it thanks!
[16:33] <ducasse> unoob: you need ahci mode because that is what ubuntu expects the controller to be set to use
[16:34] <ducasse> unoob: (simplified explanation)
[16:34] <thinky> hello
[16:34] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: I can't see anything you'd need to change in those instructions
[16:34] <thinky> i am having connection problem while i am on ubuntu 16.04
[16:35] <retrospectacus> Difficuly connecting to ppa.launchpad.net for <apt-get update>. Known issue or solution? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25810713/
[16:35] <unoob> that makes sense. thank you for the explanation. : )
[16:35] <thinky> i dont have internet problem while i am on windows but when i log in to ubuntu i disconnect
[16:35] <ducasse> Reynardo: are you doing this on an rpi?
[16:35] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: I will give you the standard warning though: please be careful when installing software packages from outside Ubuntu repositories
[16:36] <thinky> can somebody help me please?
[16:36] <jerichowasahoax> ducasse: he's adapting raspbian instructions for an Ubuntu system
[16:36] <Reynardo> ducasse: yes i am on the rpi right now chatting here
[16:36] <ducasse> Reynardo: ok, those packages you are told to download are only for arm architecture, so i had to ask.
[16:36] <deadlytackler> hi
[16:37] <Reynardo> ducasse: I'm not that stupid i know lolol
[16:37] <Reynardo> ducasse: but thanks for help
[16:37] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: stupidity wasn't meant to be implied with that
[16:38] <thinky> when i start updates on terminal, usually it doesnt finalise due to connection problem
[16:38] <ducasse> Reynardo: a _lot_ of people who come in here would not necessarily know that, which is why i asked.
 Yes i think not having the basic knowlege can lead to trouble since it was possible to make on regular pc
[16:39] <xavi> is there anyone here who is having wifi issues with ubuntu 17.10 and RTL8723BE ??
[16:39] <xavi> btw hello everyone :D
[16:39] <Reynardo> sorry how do i mention someone when i chat
[16:39] <dserodio> kostkon, I tried GNOME in 17.10 but I prefer Unity for now. One of the things I like the most about Unity is how the desktop bar is unified with the app's menubar. Do you know if it's possible to do the same with Gnome?
[16:40] <thinky> Reynardo:  type a letter of someone and then press TAB button
[16:40] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: I recommend at least three characters before pressing tab
[16:41] <kostkon> dserodio, there could be a couple of extensions you could try i think
[16:41] <jerichowasahoax> less likely to tab-complete the wrong user that way
[16:41] <Reynardo> writing something in chat to someone
[16:41] <Reynardo> not working
[16:41] <kostkon> dserodio, there's at least one global menu extension
[16:41] <thinky> Reynardo: which chat are u using?
[16:42] <Reynardo> this
[16:42] <Reynardo> oh
[16:42] <thinky> webchat ?
[16:42] <Reynardo> HexChat
[16:42] <thinky> u can do that Reynardo  it is same on hexchat also
[16:42] <thinky> just type 3 letters of a user u want to call, and then press tab button
[16:42] <ViperZ28> I would like to completely uninstall and reinstall gnome on 17.10, what is the best way?
[16:42] <thinky> type thi + tab
[16:43] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: there's a setting for it in the program options somewhere but I think it's turned on by default
[16:43] <Reynardo> ok
[16:43] <retrospectacus> thinky: have you checked your wifi or ethernet device driver is up to date?
[16:44] <thinky> retrospectacus:  i dont know how to check on ubuntu, beside it should install automatically i guess
[16:44] <jerichowasahoax> it might also be refusing to complete because it thinks what you're trying to tab complete is too ambiguous
[16:44] <jerichowasahoax> like, if it's just j <TAB>, that's a lot of users it could be
[16:45] <jerichowasahoax> compared to say jer <TAB>
[16:45] <Reynardo> Thinky open a terminal and type in: sudo service network-manager restart
[16:46] <thinky> retrospectacus: i am updating atm on terminal with commands " sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade " but after a while download speed slows down and it takes ages to complete updates
[16:46] <thinky> i usually cancel update when it happens
[16:46] <thinky> Reynardo: i am in middle of update now :S
[16:46] <Reynardo> oh
[16:46] <thinky> it was showing about 800kbs but now decreased to 100kbs
[16:46] <thinky> 98kbps
[16:47] <thinky> why does it happen?
[16:47] <kostkon> thinky, have you tried changing to a different mirror
[16:47] <retrospectacus> are you on wireless or what
[16:47] <Reynardo> but just keep in mind if wifi or ethernet cannot be connected and it is all in grey color
[16:47] <thinky> kostkon: yes, it s even worse or same
[16:47] <kostkon> thinky, tried a couple of them just to make sure?
[16:47] <TJ-> thinky: check the Tx and Rx invalid/retries counts for the interface with "iwconfig"
[16:47] <thinky> Reynardo:  it doesnt happen when i first login to ubuntu, it happens after a while
[16:48] <thinky> i will check after update finishes
[16:48] <thinky> 117kbps
[16:49] <TJ-> thinky: there are several known issues with wifi drivers, iwlwifi (Intel) being one. what does "lspci -nnk -d ::0280" show?
[16:49] <thinky> kostkon:  btw it also happens on browser too , i mean i dont think it is related with updates only. even it shows wifi connected, my browser says " no connection "
[16:50] <kostkon> thinky, oh ok
[16:51] <thinky> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25810835/
[16:51] <thinky> interesting, today i could successfully finalise update
[16:52] <thinky> before, for long time i couldnt finalise it
[16:52] <Reynardo> sorry anyone knows how to change audio output for raspberry pi from hdmi to 3.5mm jack?
[16:53] <TJ-> thinky: how about "pastebinit <( iwconfig )" too?
[16:53] <ViperZ28> how can I reinstall default 17.10 Gnome desktop?
[16:53] <akik> Reynardo: you can manage them with pavucontrol or pactl
[16:54] <akik> Reynardo: sorry, pacmd, not pactl
[16:54] <thinky> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25810851/
[16:54] <ducasse> ViperZ28: 'apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop', i expect
[16:54] <ViperZ28> ok I will try that
[16:54] <Reynardo> akik i am not a hackerman so can you explain how to launch these things from cmd/
[16:55] <akik> Reynardo: "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol" then start it with "pavucontrol". the switch happens in the configuration tab
[16:55] <Reynardo> wow so i install it? cool
[16:57] <Reynardo> pavucontrol
[16:57] <Reynardo> yes?
[16:57] <Reynardo> where is it
[16:57] <Reynardo> i installed it
[16:57] <jerichowasahoax> now run it
[16:57] <Reynardo> oh i did it
[16:57] <akik> Reynardo: all the commands can be run from the terminal
[16:57] <Reynardo> from cmd
[16:57] <jerichowasahoax> you can use your terminal for that, just type "pavucontrol"
[16:57] <TJ-> thinky: the "Invalid misc:1001" is high... you should repeated use "iwconfig" to watch that value. if it increases rapidly/significantly that points to a problem with the device/driver
[16:57] <Reynardo> yes i did it
[16:58] <thinky> TJ-:  what should it be?
[16:58] <jerichowasahoax> Reynardo: "cmd" is the Windows term. i mention this because a lot of people in the linux community are allergic to windows-speak
[16:59] <TJ-> thinky: ideally, 0 !
[16:59] <Reynardo> woops analog output is available but nah it still plays from monitor speakers not connected stereo
[16:59] <thinky> TJ-: Invalid misc:5
[16:59] <thinky> TJ-:  what increases it?
[17:00] <thinky> is there any problem with my wifi drivers?
[17:00] <thinky> is there any option to update or refresh them?
[17:00] <akik> Reynardo: after switching it in the configuration tab, switch to the first tab. i think it was called playback
[17:00] <TJ-> thinky: in practice though with other access points and clients the airwaves are suffering interference so these things do happen. The trouble is when the failures increase rapidlby it means network packets are getting lost, which is why apt suffers and throughput drops.
[17:01] <thinky> TJ-:  is it because of my isp ?
[17:02] <TJ-> thinky: some Intel chipsets have problems like this more when operating in 802.11n mode and the iwlwifi module has a parameter 11n_disable=<bitmap> to selectively disable various 802.11n facilities
[17:02] <akik> did gnome terminal get rid of the menu accelerators? (alt-f for the file menu)
[17:02] <thinky> TJ-:  what do u suggest me to do?
[17:03] <TJ-> thinky: No, it's your local Wifi network, and others belonging to neighbours, plus other devices (e.g. Bluetooth, microwaves, baby-monitors) in the unlicensed 2.4GHz band causing interference
[17:03] <thinky> there is bluetooth speaker paired but it is not connected now
[17:06] <TJ-> thinky: it's generally radio interference in the 2.4GHz band that 802.11n/g/n uses that causes the drop-outs. So many devices sharing the same frequencies they interfere
[17:08] <thinky> TJ-:  ok then, so there s nothing i can do about it ?
[17:08] <thinky> but why doesnt it happen on windows ?
[17:08] <thinky> when i am on windows connection is very fluent
[17:09] <TJ-> thinky: in most cases, if you have a device that can operate in the 802.11a (5GHz band) I'd recommend switching your Access Point to using that, but your client device only supports 2.4GHZ so you can't do that
[17:09] <TJ-> thinky: not sure... maybe the Intel Windows driver can deal with interference better than the Intel Linux driver can
[17:10] <thinky> TJ-:  is it possible to update intel linux driver? and check if it is latest driver?
[17:10] <TJ-> thinky: iwlwifi is quite infamous for having these issues in a major way until relatively recently. Many people (me included) had to disable 802.11n mode on them and stick with 802.11g
[17:11] <thinky> TJ-:  can i disable too? and how ?
[17:11] <TJ-> thinky: you'll have the 'latest' - it's part of the kernel
[17:11] <TJ-> thinky: see https://askubuntu.com/questions/445564/wifi-connection-not-working#445568
[17:13] <thinky> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25810996/
[17:15] <retrospectacus> you can enable/disable G/N using your router's HTTP management interface
[17:15] <thinky> retrospectacus:  i wish i know how to do it :)
[17:15] <retrospectacus> consult the documentation of your wireless router
[17:16] <wxl> elopio1: yes but you probably meant that to be on a non support channel :)
[17:16] <thinky> so should i change n to g ?
[17:16] <retrospectacus> or, obtain its IP (possibly in output of `ip r` - "default" line) and browse to it with a browser
[17:17] <debouncer> How can I improve my laptop's battery performance? While in Windows 8, I get 4 hours battery life, in ubuntu it takes 1 hour. Why there is a that much performance difference between two OSs?
[17:18] <thinky> retrospectacus:  i am in 192.168.1.1 now
[17:20] <retrospectacus> find the setting to enable/change bands, frequencies, channels... note you may get disconnected when applying changes.
[17:20] <Ghazi> hello
[17:20] <thinky> there are : 802.11b/g/n  - 802.11b/g - 802.11g - 802.11b
[17:20] <retrospectacus> https://www.howtogeek.com/222249/whats-the-difference-between-2.4-ghz-and-5-ghz-wi-fi-and-which-should-you-use/
[17:20] <theseb> help! how make iphone icons NOT pop on my desktop when I charge my iphone w/ usb cable plugged to laptop?
[17:21] <Squarism> Im on ubuntu 17.04 and installed "Intel Graphics Update Tool For Linux OS". Dont think ive rebooted since i did that some 1 month ago. Now I 1. Can only use laptop screen (with ONE resolution - 4:3 1024 x 768). 2. Cannot detect any of the displays connected to my docking station. Can i uninstall whatever this "update tool" has installed on my computer?
[17:21] <Squarism> (computer is new and has 1920x1080 native support)
[17:22] <Squarism> built in screen i mean
[17:23] <thinky> retrospectacus:  my router supports only 2.4 ghz
[17:23] <thinky> no 5
[17:24] <retrospectacus> thinky: you may have luck changing it to a different channel then. There are like 13 or 16 channels; you can use some app on your phone to figure out the least congested, or just guess
[17:24] <Squarism> is there a way to force use of ubuntu 17.04 packaged drivers (instead of those graphics update tool installed
[17:25] <thinky> retrospectacus:  yes there are 13 channels
[17:25] <thinky> 1....13
[17:25] <retrospectacus> thinky: or probably a program on ubuntu could analyze the neighbourhood if someone knows one
[17:26] <ducasse> Squarism: i'd check the docs for that thing you installed, look for an uninstall option
[17:27] <theseb>  Squarism: i'd check the docs for that thing you installed, look for
[17:27] <theseb>           an uninstall option
[17:27] <theseb> *** KeeranM (~KeeranM@gatea.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk) has quit: Quit: My MacBook has
[17:27] <theseb>     gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
[17:27] <theseb> ERC> help! how make iphone icons NOT pop on my desktop when I charge my iphone?
[17:27] <theseb> sorry
[17:27] <thinky> retrospectacus:  i m lost now
[17:27] <thinky> should i change 802.11b/g/n values and channels?
[17:28] <retrospectacus> thinky: in fact, I think `iw list` will enumerate active networks in your area including their channel. Pick a channel that no other network is using, and set your router to use it.
[17:29] <retrospectacus> `iwlist scan`
[17:29] <retrospectacus> my machine doesn't have wireless so I can't recall the right command
[17:32] <thinky> retrospectacus:  there are some router names in the scan list
[17:32] <thinky> as i know ISP is attempting couple of ppl to the same hub
[17:32] <thinky> and i am sharing same hub with some ppl with same ISP
[17:32] <thinky> and i think it effects my connection?
[17:33] <retrospectacus> if they are all using the same wifi channel, then yes. If the ISP itself is congested then there is nothing you can do
[17:33] <retrospectacus> you can change your router's channel to help your connection
[17:34] <thinky> retrospectacus:  channel shows 1
[17:34] <thinky> sorry 11
[17:34] <thinky> Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)                     Quality=70/70  Signal level=-32 dBm
[17:35] <retrospectacus> so, change it to something else, some channel that no other router/network is using - look at that line for other networks and don't pick their channels
[17:37] <retrospectacus> If you're not following what I'm saying or if it sounds like too much work, just change it to another channel at random. You have to use your router management webpage to change it.
[17:37] <aaaa> how can I scan others wifi networks around me on which channels they works?
[17:38] <retrospectacus> aaaa: iwlist scan
[17:39] <aaaa> retrospectacus: but this command show only my channel network
[17:39] <retrospectacus> then I guess there are no others.
[17:39] <aaaa> i want to and others network on which channels are they
[17:41] <unixbeard> hi, I recently upgraded from 16.04 to 17.04.  I see there's possibly an issue with dropbox messing up desktop icons.  I can't see them or right-click on the desktop.  Any ideas?
[17:41] <aaaa> retrospectacus: actually  there has a lot wireless networks around me
[17:42] <retrospectacus> aaaa: then they would appear in the output. See http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/wi-fi-command-line
[17:43] <thinky> i changed to channel 13 , which was not used by someone in the list
[17:45] <SimonNL> aaaa: do you have nmcli installed here is a nice one        nmcli -f all dev wifi list
[17:45] <aaaa> retrospectacus: ok thanks
[17:46] <retrospectacus> aaaa: there are more advanced tools like kismet available as well that would perform more advanced analysis
[17:46] <aaaa> yes SimonNL i have installed it
[17:49] <TJ-> thinky: to make it complicated, due to how the channels are arranged, there are only 3 channels that do not actual overlap others: 1, 6 and 13 (and that isn't available in north america). so if you have an AP on channel 10 and your AP uses channel 11 they will conflict, but it you move to channel 1 those 2 APs won't - but then you may conflict with another AP!
[17:50] <thinky> TJ-:  i chose channel 13 and nobody was using 13, is it ok?
[17:51] <TJ-> thinky: is another AP using any of channels 7-12 ?
[17:51] <thinky> TJ-:  7 yes
[17:51] <thinky> 1 - 4 -  6 - 7 - 11
[17:51] <thinky> used channels
[17:51] <thinky> i was 11 previously
[17:51] <TJ-> thinky: so there's another AP on 11 besides yours on 13 now?
[17:52] <thinky> TJ-:  i was sharing channel 11 with someone else, but 13 was not used
[17:52] <thinky> so i chose 13
[17:54] <TJ-> thinky: see this link and the "2.4GHz WiFi channel overlap and selection" graphic to undestand how te channels overlap: http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/wireless/wi-fi/80211-channels-number-frequencies-bandwidth.php
[17:57] <thinky> i dont understand advanced internet but i think 13 is ok by now
[17:59] <retrospectacus> Difficuly connecting to ppa.launchpad.net for <apt-get update>. Known issue or solution? https://paste.ubuntu.com/25810713/
[18:00] <thinky> gotta go now
[18:00] <thinky> thx for your helps !
[18:00] <thinky> TJ-:  retrospectacus
[18:00] <retrospectacus> np
[18:05] <cataLyst7> Hello
[18:18] <cataLyst7> Just a test -- smile  ;)
[18:28] <kot> здорово всем
[18:29] <akik> !ru
[18:35] <magic_1> hi all
[18:36] <kostkon> magic_1, hi
[18:37] <Phylock> hi
[18:40] <Derander> Hi all -- checking out ubuntu 17.10. Is there a way to customize gnome3's alt-tab appearance delay? It appears to be hard-coded to 150ms which is driving me nuts
[18:40] <Derander> googling suggests there's some crazy 'overwrite the JS running the shell'-style hack that might work, but I've failed to execute the instructions I found for that and I'm hoping there's a more supported path.
[18:44] <Phylock> I once did the change in the JS, but now i have changed it to alternative-tab so it has not been a problem.
[18:44] <Derander> I will look at alternative-tab, thanks for the tip
[18:48] <beefjoe> I uninstalled wine using purge but when doing apt show wine I still get my wine version
[18:48] <beefjoe> how is that possible ?
[18:48] <beefjoe> I did autoremove afterwards as well..
[18:49] <kostkon> beefjoe, what about  apt-cache policy wine ?
[18:49] <magic_1> anyone else having issues with remmina
[18:49] <magic_1> been trying to find Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:50] <magic_1> I have googled etc...
[18:50] <magic_1> just not coming right
[18:50] <magic_1> anyone got some advice or some direction
[18:50] <beefjoe> kostkon yep I get Installed: (none)
[18:50] <beefjoe> thanks :D
[18:50] <kostkon> beefjoe, there
[18:50] <kostkon> beefjoe, np
[18:51] <rdh> magic_1, segmentation fault is very generic.
[18:52] <magic_1> rdh, I know, that is exactly what has made it a little bit more challenging to fix
[18:52] <magic_1> I have been getting it with 17.04 and 17.10
[18:55] <rdh> magic_1,  you would have to use a debugger to figure out exactly were it is segfaulting. unless it is because it was compiled with something funny.
[18:55] <magic_1> rdh, will be doing that now
[18:55] <brainwash> magic_1: I would run "ubuntu-bug remmina", and let it create a bug report on launchpad
[18:56] <rdh> magic_1, personally mine does not segfault on 17.10
[18:57] <brainwash> more info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[18:57] <quechon> hello guys
[18:57] <kostkon> quechon, hi
[18:57] <pavlos> magic_1: maybe dmesg shows what kind of violation happened
[18:57] <rdh> magic_1, what version are you using?
[18:58] <quechon> I have nginx running in a Ubuntu server I'm trying to block a ipv6 address but it doesnt work no matters what I do using ufw
[19:01] <pavlos> quechon: does /etc/default/ufw contain the line IPV6=yes
[19:01] <quechon> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Ilv5JxjGkwAjsIBeh4ip
[19:01] <quechon> yes it does
[19:02] <rdh> magic_1, https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/issues/1185 suggests puring and reinstalling, or using remmina repositories
[19:03] <urgodfather> ok... ive started over from scratch.... reinstalled, setup isc-dhcp-server... i am getting DHCPDISCOVER's and giving DCHPOFFER's but nothing more
[19:04] <urgodfather> what am i doing wrong?
[19:05] <unixbeard> So I upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10 and it does not go to a gui, I guess because of Wayland - I am at a console.  Any tips?
[19:06] <unixbeard> Switch to lightdm?
[19:06] <TJ-> urgodfather: are the clients not sending DHCPREQUEST ?
[19:07] <TJ-> urgodfather: are the clients on a different sub-net?
[19:08] <pavlos> quechon: line 16 is to deny from a specific ipv6 address?
[19:09] <quechon> pavlos: yes
[19:10] <quechon> that ip address is from my laptop but my DO server wont block it
[19:13] <quechon> pavlos: line 6
[19:15] <pavlos> quechon: I'm looking at your paste, line 6 is blank
[19:17] <pavlos> quechon: I would move all the DENY lines first, then the ALLOW lines after
[19:18] <pavlos> quechon: to the top
[19:21] <quechon> pavlos: but of I do ufw insert 1 deny ipv6 I get a error for that position
[19:21] <TJ-> quechon: if you've got "Default: deny (incoming) then those DENY IN rules are superfluous
[19:22] <quechon> TJ-: how about nginx it is allowing those connections
[19:25] <quechon> dont know how to allow nginx and at the same time block ups
[19:25] <pixxytrxxxy> hello tardos
[19:26] <quechon> if I delete nginx rule then ip get block but dont want all of them to be blocked
[19:30] <teward> quechon: how're you trying to restrict access
[19:30] <teward> and what's your ultimate end goal here
[19:31] <Squarism> If lspci lists "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 520 (rev 07)" does that mean the driver didnt load?
[19:31] <domiyan> Hello, I just upgraded my GalagoPro to ubuntu 17.10 and am having crashes with Gnome-Terminal is there anyone who would like me to PM them the details and help?
[19:31] <ericus> why is eth0 named enp3s0?
[19:33] <teward> ericus: predictive naming.  that's been a thing for a while
[19:33] <ericus> okay
[19:33] <akik> Squarism: no. you can check the graphics details with "lshw -c video". it'll probably say driver in use = i915 or similar, the built-in graphics chip on the cpu
[19:33] <ericus> just used to eth0
[19:33] <teward> ericus: refer to https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[19:33] <ericus> thanks teward
[19:34] <ioria> Squarism, maybe try   lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[19:34] <teward> ericus: you can disable it in the kernel/bootloader level - refer to https://serverfault.com/questions/741210/disabling-predictable-network-interface-names-in-xubuntu-15-10 for an answer that might work
[19:34] <teward> quechon: without knowing what you're trying to achieve I don't think anyone can help guide you with the nginx and IP rules thing.
[19:34] <aeyesi> Hello
[19:34] <ericus> it doesnt really bother me, I was just curious
[19:35] <domiyan> Hello aeyesi
[19:35] <Bashing-om> Squarism: That identifies the hardware . One way to check if the driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C display ' and look in the configuration line .
[19:35] <Squarism> akik, ioria, Bashing-om : here is the output of lshw : http://lpaste.net/359506
[19:36] <quechon> I just want to be able to block specific ip addresses
[19:36] <ioria> Squarism, dmesg | grep Kernel
[19:36] <ioria> Squarism, or cat /proc/cmdline
[19:37] <aeyesi> So guys .. the WayLand ubuntu looks pretty good 3
[19:37] <domiyan> So if nobody here knows about crashing software after 17.10 upgrade can you point me in the right direction to ask my question?
[19:37] <quechon> but somehow ip addresses come from nginx so if I block nginx I'm pretty much blocking access to server
[19:37] <teward> quechon: can you show me an example of what you mean, because it's *extremely* unclear what you mean.
[19:38] <aeyesi> Anyone running lubuntu at 4K ? :)
[19:38] <mib222> Hy everyone
[19:38] <mib222> I have this service /lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service
[19:38] <mib222> how can I make it run 2 min after boot or 2 min after I login, instead during the boot?
[19:39] <aeyesi> mib222 ... bash script perhaps?
[19:39] <domiyan> I was going to say a bash script that waits 2 min then runs it
[19:40] <akik> Squarism: something is different compared to my own system. i have driver=i915 there on the configuration: line
[19:40] <obelisk29> Is there any reason why I don't see the regular ubuntu login shell after upgrading from 17.04 to 17.10? It only shows ubuntu on xorg and unity. I want to try ubuntu on wayland.
[19:40] <lordcirth_work> mib222, https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.timer.html
[19:40] <aeyesi> pretty active IRC it seems
[19:41] <domiyan> It seems that way...
[19:41] <akik> Squarism: ubuntu installs the intel graphics driver automatically so you shouldn't need to do anything to make it work
[19:41] <obelisk29> It happened on both my desktop and laptop
[19:41] <lordcirth_work> aeyesi, well, there's a few people using Ubuntu :P
[19:41] <mib222> aeyesi: the problem is that mariadb/mysql is enabled and automaticaly runs during the boot already
[19:42] <mib222> I want it to delay
[19:42] <aeyesi> Guys what about AMD... I bought the card and give it a go... realized no official drivers exist... but there is something called "AMD Bonarie" aka opensource one's (and they seem decent)
[19:42] <Squarism> akik, http://lpaste.net/359506
[19:42] <quechon> teward: hard to show you example I'll just keep searching for something to help me with that thanks
[19:42] <Squarism> ioria, http://lpaste.net/359506
[19:42] <teward> quechon: well here's what i'm getting from you:
[19:42] <teward> quechon: you're trying to restrict access to your NGINX website, and block certain IPs.
[19:42] <domiyan> but nobody answers my question... maybe if I ask it in a different way hmm... ( gnome-terminal-....segfault at 70........error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.54000.1....) any ideas?
[19:42] <akik> mib222: there's a setting for systemd timers OnBootSec= which is what you might be looking for
[19:43] <teward> quechon: but your statement that 'some ip addresses come from nginx' is vague and unclear what you mean
[19:43] <teward> quechon: meaning it's impossible to determine where you're getting your IP information for blocking.  If you want to just block IPs I'd use it at the firewall level to add rules to reject traffic from those IPs.
[19:43] <teward> but if you're trying to filter out scrapers, spammers, service scanners, etc. that's ultimately futile
[19:44] <akik> Squarism: it says UNCLAIMED after display
[19:44] <Squarism> akik, yeah. That seems really wierd
[19:44] <akik> Squarism: is it disabled in the machine's bios?
[19:44] <mib222> lordcirth_work and akik:  I'm looking at this right now, but I can't figure out if I can put [Timer] into mariadb.service or it must be inside  .timer ?
[19:44] <quechon> teward: yes I just want to block ips but it doesnt work when I add the rule why? idk
[19:44] <definitelynotjq> Hello hello, what's my best possible option for logging cpu/mem usage for server?
[19:44] <akik> mib222: it's a separate timer file
[19:45] <lordcirth_work> mib222, no, you make a mariadb_boot.timer, then when it's done, it launches mariadb
[19:45] <ioria> Squarism,  dmesg | grep -i i915
[19:45] <quechon> I even if I move to top
[19:45] <lordcirth_work> definitelynotjq, do you want to know what user or processes were using it, or just how much load there was?
[19:45] <tgm4883> quechon: what rule are you adding and where are you adding it to?
[19:45] <teward> ^ that
[19:46] <definitelynotjq> lordcirth_work: Just load is fine, I know what's gonna be using it all if it is using a lot :P
[19:46] <Squarism> akik, ioria : http://lpaste.net/359506
[19:46] <teward> quechon: where are yo uadding the rules, how are you doing that, and what rule are you trying to use
[19:46] <quechon> I do ufw insert 1 deny from ip address
[19:46] <ioria> Squarism,  you used the intel installer ?
[19:46] <obelisk29> Is there any reason why I don't see the regular ubuntu login shell after upgrading from 17.04 to 17.10? It only shows ubuntu on xorg and unity.
[19:47] <tgm4883> quechon: and what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[19:47] <lordcirth_work> definitelynotjq, atop is a classic; if you want fancy graphs, Grafana is good but maybe overkill
[19:47] <quechon> block a ip from accessing the server
[19:47] <ioria> Squarism,  or some external repos ?
[19:47] <definitelynotjq> o.O Grafana looks so pretty
[19:47] <aciccio> hi
[19:47] <tgm4883> quechon: just one random IP?
[19:48] <aciccio> I am running 14.04, any chance to install a flatpak file?
[19:48] <Squarism> ioria, yep.. exactly. And after that i followed this scheme to remove it:  https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-update-tool-discussions/how-remove-drivers-installed-intel-graphics-update-tool
[19:48] <mib222> lordcirth_work and akik:   thanks. I suppose I also must comment out WantedBy and After inside mariadb.service to not start automaticaly?
[19:48] <ioria> Squarism,  oh my
[19:48] <quechon> no my laptop ip
[19:48] <tgm4883> quechon: well that seems silly. Why are you trying to deny your laptop?
[19:48] <Squarism> ioria, akik : After i uninstalled the intel graphics update tool i choose to disable the "additional driver" like this : https://imgur.com/a/WtLrf
[19:48] <tgm4883> quechon: it's your laptop, you could just not access the server from it...
[19:49] <ioria> Squarism,  never tried that installer, but it's said it's lethal
[19:49] <quechon> just learning there are others ip but with mine I'll know if it is working
[19:50] <Squarism> ioria, oops.
[19:50] <Squarism> ioria, well all packages it installed has been updated with those from zesty
[19:50] <akik> ioria: do you think that re-install of kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel would fix it?
[19:50] <tgm4883> quechon: are you trying to do what teward suggested earlier which is prevent people from attacking your server?
[19:50] <Squarism> ...reverted
[19:50] <ioria> akik, maybe, good idea
[19:51] <ioria> Squarism,  akik  ^
[19:51] <Squarism> akik, how is that done?
[19:51] <akik> Squarism: you can re-install packages with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall package"
[19:51] <quechon> yes have some especific ips I wanna block
[19:52] <tgm4883> quechon: well I'd hope you use something like fail2ban for that. Can you pastebin the output of 'sudo ufw status'
[19:52] <Squarism> akik, ioria : ive done that will all packages installed from 01.org. So these have been updated with zesty ones now. I only have 3 packages on my system (that have no equivalent in zesty) atm
[19:52] <tgm4883> quechon: sorry, "sudo ufw status numbered"
[19:53] <Squarism> akik, ioria : the reinsall was done using this scheme - that seemed to work fine : https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-update-tool-discussions/how-remove-drivers-installed-intel-graphics-update-tool
[19:53] <ioria> Squarism,  sy, can't help ya there
[19:53] <akik> Squarism: i've never used those packages as all the needed bits come from ubuntu
[19:54] <akik> Squarism: did you re-install the kernel and that intel xorg package?
[19:55] <quechon> I think I'll just go the fail2ban way too much headache
[19:56] <quechon> but thanks guys for the replies I really appreciate it
[19:57] <Squarism> akik, sudo apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel kernel
[19:57] <Squarism> ?
[19:57] <Squarism> apt-get
[19:58] <kostkon> !info apt
[19:59] <akik> Squarism: you'll get the names with "dpkg -l linux-image\*" and "dpkg -l \*xorg\*intel\*"
[20:01] <akik> Squarism: i'm not sure if those 01.org packages replace kernel modules
[20:01] <Squarism> ive reinstalled the xorg package
[20:01] <Squarism> lets hope my machine reboots =D
[20:02] <domiyan> Does anyone want to help me with Gnome-Terminal crashing after upgrade to 17.10?
[20:04] <Squarism> I also did "sudo apt remove i915-4.11.6-4.10.0-dkms". (that was one of 01.org packages left). That gave quite a bunch of error messages.
[20:04] <blkadder> Hmmm... Where to install internally developed apps? /usr/local or /opt? There is conflicting info out there.
[20:05] <hggdh> your call, but I would go with /opt
[20:05] <ragr> Hi, I have a problem with encryption and Ubuntu, anyone here experiecned with this?
[20:06] <blkadder> ragr Ask your question and if someone knows they will answer.
[20:06] <kostkon> blkadder, +1 for /opt or even ~/.opt?  Just make sure you create an desktop file for it and place it in ~/.local/share/applications  You can keep it local if you want
[20:07] <blkadder> Right now our devs decided to put everything in a user home directory, so anything is better than that. ;-)
[20:07] <ikonia> ~/.opt ??
[20:07] <ikonia> what the devil is
[20:07] <ikonia> that
[20:07] <blkadder> I wouldn't do ~/.opt.
[20:07] <ragr> ok, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and choosed to encrypt my system during installation time, so early at ubuntu startup I had to input my encruption password before I got to the log in screen
[20:07] <ikonia> pretty much the most non-standard file system I've ever seen
[20:08] <kostkon> ikonia, just a hidden folder in his home if he's gonna be the only person testing/using the software
[20:08] <ikonia> why would you do that ?
[20:08] <ikonia> if it's in your home directory it's protected to you any way
[20:08] <urgodfather> ikonia, so what do you recommend me doing to test dhcp?
[20:08] <Squarism> akik, yay
[20:08] <ikonia> urgodfather: ask the channel
[20:08] <Squarism> im back in bussiness!!
[20:09] <ragr> this worked fine for one day over several reboots, then the next day, I suddenly could boot my system without entering my encryption passowrd
[20:09] <urgodfather> this is the right one, correct?
[20:09] <akik> Squarism: does it now show driver=i915 in lshw output?
[20:09] <ikonia> urgodfather: spot on, also maybe explain what version of ubuntu it is, so people can reference it's exact config
[20:09] <otsoa> Various sites state, that Ubuntu now supports ext4 encryption in 17.10, how to? Is it the encrypt home directory option? Or does that still use ecryptfs?
[20:10] <urgodfather> ok... ive started over from scratch.... reinstalled, setup isc-dhcp-server... i am getting DHCPDISCOVER's and giving DCHPOFFER's but nothing more
[20:10] <urgodfather> ubuntu 16.04 lts
[20:10] <urgodfather> is the install
[20:10] <ikonia> urgodfather: so that suggests the client is your problem
[20:10] <ikonia> debug the client, not the server
[20:11] <Sleaker> otsoa: it was added in the kernel back in 2015.
[20:11] <domiyan> Well it seems nobody here can help I will be restarting my system hopefully I can figure it out and help anyone else that has this problem in the future.
[20:11] <urgodfather> i think i have a router that i can use to test
[20:11] <ragr> urgodfather, have you modified the dhcpd config?
[20:11] <ikonia> urgodfather: what ?
[20:11] <ikonia> urgodfather: why would you need/want a router
[20:11] <ikonia> urgodfather: what is the client ?
[20:11] <Squarism> akik, http://lpaste.net/359509
[20:11] <ikonia> (the one that is failing)
[20:11] <akik> Squarism: yay!
[20:12] <Squarism> akik, hurray!
[20:12] <unixbeard> Wow this is fucked.  My n key stops working about 60 seconds after booting into the gui
[20:12] <Squarism> thanks alot
[20:12] <unixbeard> any ideas why?
[20:12] <ikonia> urgodfather: tone down the language please
[20:12] <ikonia> urgodfather: oop
[20:12] <ikonia> urgodfather: sorry
[20:12] <unixbeard> 17.10 is buggy as hell
[20:12] <ikonia> unixbeard: tone down the language please
[20:12] <teward> unixbeard: please tone down the language.
[20:12] <ikonia> unixbeard: there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[20:13] <tgm4883> unixbeard: that was pretty much a given due to the large changes that were made for it
[20:13] <otsoa> I know it was. I'm asking how to choose that option in Ubuntu 17.10 since I've found on multiple sites something akin to "EXT4 encryption with fscrypt".
[20:14] <unixbeard> tgm4883: I can't even begin to describe how hilariously bad it is and how depressed I am giving it a whirl.
[20:14] <urgodfather> ikonia you were right router got the packet and did a request
[20:14] <tgm4883> unixbeard: then go back to 16.04? If you can't describe the issue and can't troubleshoot it that would be your last option
[20:15] <unixbeard> Like, of all the things to have to resolve - outside of Wayland, nvidia, etc.  Now my N key won't work because something is trapping it and I can't find what key binding could possibly do that.  It's frustrating enough to deal with a host of other issues.
[20:15] <urgodfather> unixbeard might want to nix the f bombs. they have a zero tolerance here
[20:15] <unixbeard> Sorry, I thought they were bots.  Must I prostrate myself apologetically for this and acknowledge that my use of one f-word was uncalled for dear heavens my apologies kind sirs please can we focus on the N key not the F key?
[20:16] <ragr> urgodfather: are you the only router on the network? have you modified the dhcpd.conf file
[20:16] <unixbeard> I am thinking downgrading to 16.04 would be impossible at this point, have others done it?
[20:16] <tgm4883> unixbeard: it would be a reinstall
[20:16] <ragr> Anyone here experienced with encryption in ubuntu?
[20:16] <unixbeard> Also, how much more specific can I get?  The N key does not work.  I hit n, the n character does not appear.  IT does for maybe 60 seconds after logging in, afterward it is bombed.
[20:17] <urgodfather> unixbeard definitely not bots.. i can attest to that
[20:17] <urgodfather> unixbeard are you sure its not just your keyboard?
[20:17] <unixbeard> I think we've established that they are not bots and that language is not tolerated.  I am sure.
[20:17] <urgodfather> ragr whats the problem?
[20:17] <unixbeard> I thought maybe it was synergy.  I will try uninstalling that completely.
[20:18] <auronandace> unixbeard: i'm guessing you are not logged onto irc now on that machine since your n key seems to wrk fine
[20:18] <urgodfather> ragr yes only router
[20:18] <ragr> urgodfather: I have 16.04, choosed to encrypt my whole disk at install time, worked over several reboots, then suddenly it stopped to prompt me for encryption password before I got acces to the login screen
[20:19] <urgodfather> ragr as ikonia suggested, its not the server thats the problem... verified by plugging a router in via wan connection to that network.. it grabbed an ip from my scope
[20:21] <urgodfather> ragr ok so im not going to be of use on that. i thought maybe you got locked out or something. i came across a page once that describes how to get past that encryption key mess
[20:21] <Rc43> Hi
[20:21] <Rc43> Is it possible to install gcc-4.9 in ubuntu 17.10?
[20:22] <Rc43> Or any gcc version older than 7.2.0
[20:24] <urgodfather> can someone tell me if i have this dhcp server set to run at boot?  this time i followed directy what is on ubuntu's site
[20:24] <akik> Rc43: yes you can get them from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain
[20:24] <urgodfather> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dhcp.html
[20:25] <ikonia> urgodfather: you know it's running
[20:25] <ikonia> it's doing dhcp offers
[20:25] <ikonia> that means it's running
[20:25] <urgodfather> i just rebooted the server to verify
[20:25] <ikonia> urgodfather: why ?
[20:25] <urgodfather> im building this for people that know nothing about linux at all so they cant muff things up
[20:26] <ikonia> you know it's running
[20:26] <akik> Rc43: although i'm not 100% sure about this. i haven't tested installing myself for 17.10
[20:26] <ikonia> you know the problem is the client
[20:26] <ikonia> why are you looking at the server
[20:26] <urgodfather> i wanted to make sure the service will start if power loss
[20:26] <ikonia> urgodfather: you know it is
[20:26] <ikonia> it's making dhcp offers - it's running
[20:26] <Rc43> akik, no 17 version here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test but I haven't read your link yet
[20:27] <urgodfather> ikonia i already verified what you were telling me earlier... i plugged in a router using its wan port to act as a client on that switch, it grabbed an ip
[20:27] <ikonia> urgodfather: great
[20:27] <urgodfather> ikonia just so you know, im building a clonedeploy server
[20:27] <urgodfather> that uses pxe
[20:28] <urgodfather> http://clonedeploy.org/docs/install-on-ubuntu/
[20:28] <urgodfather> prereq is dhcp server
[20:29] <urgodfather> BUT since i reloaded it twice now, i get to edit my fstab to auto mount again and reinstall OMSA again
[20:29] <urgodfather> oh the joy
[20:39] <azol> hello guys, any tips how to connect to 17.10 via VNC? I mean how to start gnome exactly? what should I put in ~/.vnc/xstartup  ?
[20:41] <akik> azol: the session files are in /usr/share/xsessions and /usr/share/wayland-sessions (the Exec= lines)
[20:43] <unixbeard> So, when I sign in and open a terminal, it's got ^[[15~^[[15~ repeated some number of times, then ~ and backspace.  I can stop it from doing this by hitting ~, then my n key doesn't work.  This happens immediately after rebooting.
[20:43] <akik> unixbeard: sounds to me like a key is stuck on your keyboard
[20:43] <unixbeard> akik: it is not
[20:43] <urgodfather> azol i can help
[20:44] <urgodfather> you need to enable screen sharing and set a password
[20:44] <urgodfather> then disable encryption
[20:44] <urgodfather> https://optionkey.blogspot.com/2014/11/disable-encryption-on-ubuntu-vnc-server.html
[20:45] <akik> azol: the command seems to be "env GNOME_SHELL_SESSION_MODE=ubuntu  gnome-session --session=ubuntu"
[20:45] <urgodfather> theres a command for it but i dont remember off hand
[20:45] <akik> azol: it's the same for wayland and xorg sessions
[20:46] <urgodfather> akik slightly on and off topic... how to make vino to allow connect at boot without going over and logging in first time?
[20:47] <akik> urgodfather: sorry don't know
[20:47] <urgodfather> i suppose auto logon would be an option?
[20:48] <akik> urgodfather: i've never used it
[20:48] <urgodfather> anyone else know how to make vino allow connections at boot without logging on
[20:48] <urgodfather> vino is the vnc server built in
[20:48] <urgodfather> if i remember correctly
[20:50] <azol> akik: placing env GNOME_SHELL_SESSION_MODE=ubuntu  gnome-session --session=ubuntu to ~/.vnc/xstartup gives me nothing, a X (mouse) and nothing more.
[20:50] <azol> urgodfather, screen sharing? the problem is that I don't have GUI access to the desktop, SSH only.
[20:51] <akik> azol: maybe put that command in a script file, then add that script as the vnc startup command (just a thought)
[20:52] <urgodfather> azol oic
[20:52] <urgodfather> you could install a different vnc server
[20:52] <urgodfather> hold tight i had to do this before lemme dig up my notes
[20:53] <azol> tell me a working solution and I will do :)
[20:53] <urgodfather> install tightvnc
[20:53] <urgodfather> https://knowledgelayer.softlayer.com/learning/tightvnc-server-ubuntu-1604
[20:53] <urgodfather> then you can use vnc to connect
[20:55] <ChunkzZ> not sure if it's an ubuntu problem or kodi but anyone know having problems installing kodi on 17.10?
[20:56] <azol> I can try, but you know, I doesn't really matte that server to use. the point is what to put into ~/.vnc/xstartup. It's the problem.
[20:56] <azol> But I will try.
[20:56] <unixbeard> Seriously, any ideas?  I am staring at the terminal and it's WHACKing away with ~'s flying n' stuff.  If it was the keyboard, I wouldn't be able to sign in from the shiny Ubuntu 17.10 login screen.
[20:57] <unixbeard> Is there like a management interface somewhere to see what if any scripts/programs are run after signing in?
[20:59] <wildie> hy there
[20:59] <Bashing-om> unixbeard: As a stip in the right direction; at the lugin screen - ctl+alt+F1 to ctivat a console . Is the n key funtional in this environment ?
[21:00] <ChunkzZ> you know when you have an app open, it sits on the taskbar, what is that called? because I have stuff open but it's not sitting on the taskbar to minimize etc.
[21:01] <ChunkzZ> it's like I have chromium open and just see the right far side like power and network and the far left side start menu....
[21:01] <unixbeard> Bashing-om: before signing into an x session yes.
[21:03] <ChunkzZ> got it, thanks! :)
[21:03] <Bashing-om> unixbeard: Then that points to "someting" in the GUI intercepting the n key press . As to what that something is , I got no idea of how to determine .
[21:03] <unixbeard> Yeah that's what I'm asking, is there some way I can see a list of services that are run or actions taken after signing in?
[21:17] <ukernyanz> Hi everyone. I have a problem with mysql after an upgrade from 17.04 to 17.10. when  starting mysqld service, it won't start and says that  in logs : https://pastebin.com/08qtj6Vc
[21:17] <ukernyanz> how can I solve it?
[21:18] <deepend> create that log file?
[21:18] <deepend> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:18] <strive> What media players could anyone recommend?
[21:18] <deepend> strive: vlc
[21:18] <strive> vlc, yea...I've tried that but it's a bit choppy.
[21:19] <deepend> that's gonna be your graphics stack
[21:19] <deepend> different player will still do the same thing
[21:19] <strive> Parole didn't have this issue though.
[21:19] <roobi> Yea but you cannot beat VLC
[21:19] <roobi> It really is the most modular and efficient video/audio platform out there.
[21:19] <roobi> its like the winamp of video
[21:19] <[n0mad]> unless you have VLC with a working always on top
[21:20] <[n0mad]> that would beat vlc
[21:20] <deepend> works great on windows :]
[21:20] <strive> roobi: I agree. I've used VLC for a long time, but it's weird on i3.
[21:20] <strive> deepend: Sure does! That's where I first learned of it.
[21:20] <roobi> i3 probably doesnt support hardware accelerated protocols
[21:20] <roobi> intel-i3 is that what you mean strive ?
[21:20] <strive> I'll look into that.
[21:20] <strive> No, i3wm.
[21:20] <roobi> ahh
[21:21] <roobi> oh you want a buffered video tile?
[21:21] <roobi> Kek... yea that might be a little rough going if you are shooting for perfect
[21:21] <roobi> tmux > *
[21:21] <auronandace> strive: the only issue i have on i3 with vlc is that you need to use f to put it fullscreen and then back again for it to fit to size
[21:21] <auronandace> strive: you may want to try mplayer
[21:22] <roobi> actually
[21:22] <roobi> Ive never used i3 before and that looks amazing
[21:22] <strive> auronandace: That's the problem I have! The video looks choppy when switching videos.
[21:22] <strive> roobi: Install and try :)
[21:23] <strive> auronandace: I would have maximize and minimize again to fix video.
[21:23] <auronandace> strive: yup, that is my only gripe with vlc on i3
[21:23] <anon> ei
[21:23] <anon> chi c'è?
[21:24] <Guest15976> mhh
[21:24] <Guest15976> ora ho un nome
[21:24] <Guest15976> non so come funziona sto programma
[21:24] <auronandace> strive: mpv doesn't have tha problem though (it is based on mplayer)
[21:24] <Guest15976> ita?
[21:24] <dax> Guest15976: /join #ubuntu-it for italian
[21:25] <Guest15976> thx
[21:25] <strive> auronandace: I tried mpv and it closes after a video is played, lol.
[21:26] <strive> I'll do some more research.
[21:29] <auronandace> strive: this might be interesting to you: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/15034
[21:30] <Ben64> strive: why would you want the window still there after there is no video in it
[21:30] <strive> Ben64: To maintain that workspace the same size.
[21:31] <Ben64> what
[21:32] <unixbeard> my ~/.config/autostart is empty, I've disabled startup applications, and I still get this weird spam input after signing in.  I am running out of ideas here.
[21:33] <strive> Ben64: https://imgur.com/Pcc0L72
[21:34] <doug16k> since installing 17.10 teamviewer cannot receive windows key presses at all, killing my ability to remote control mac machines. I used to be able to press super+C to copy, etc, but now it is blocked. isn't there somewhere in ccsm that I can tell the desktop to not intercept keys for a certain program?
[21:34] <Ben64> strive: not sure what i'm supposed to be seeing
[21:36] <strive> Ben64: That's a screenshot of my workspace and windows are particularly sized to my comfort.
[21:36] <strive> Ben64: If mpv closes after a video then I would have to resize the window.
[21:36] <strive> I found the option.
[21:37] <unixbeard> doug16k: if you find out, let me know, I am thinking this might be part of my own problem somehow.
[21:37] <Ben64> strive: so why not play all the videos at once
[21:40] <strive> Ben64: lol. I jump around from file to file...
[21:41] <unixbeard> Wow this problem is crazy.  Okay, so now if I open a terminal, hit escape or ~ to cancel the input feed that's coming from some application ... I can't hit n and get n - until I hit capslock and I can get N, or hit it again and can type n as normal.  I swear this isn't a keyboard issue, and I can ctrl+alt+f2 or w/e and sign in at a terminal prior to signing in on the desktop.  If I sign in on the
[21:42] <unixbeard> desktop and don't cancel the input stream that kicks up, I can't hit n at a terminal.
[21:42] <unixbeard> This happened after updating from 17.04 to 17.10.  It might be related to (I can't imagine how) installing kernel-headers-$(uname -r) and then nvidia drivers, so X would come up, after disabling Wayland.
[21:43] <unixbeard> Such that in 16.04 and 17.04 which I was just running today, this weird input character stream business did not happen.
[21:43] <unixbeard> Additionally, I used g15-desktop-service and had disabled that from my autostart.  I'm now thinking maybe this is related (Logitech G19).
[21:57] <pavlos> quechon: I was away for a while ... to block an ipv6, sudo ufw deny from 2001:0db8:blah-blah to any (the actual ipv6)
[22:11] <Scoop7> If logged to ubuntu as root
[22:11] <Scoop7> do I still need to write sudo ?
[22:11] <Scoop7> e.g. for get-apt update
[22:11] <Toadisattva> nope not if you are root
[22:11] <Scoop7> apt-get*
[22:12] <Scoop7> so when I loged as root the sudo apt-get update vs apt-get update are equal ?
[22:13] <Toadisattva> yep
[22:13] <Kendo_Cocaine> sudo is like a temp grant of root
[22:13] <Kendo_Cocaine> anything sudo is just like being root
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Scoop7: Don't log in as root.
[22:16] <strive> auronandace: (Late response) Thanks for that link.
[22:16] <Scoop7> or maybe I am not root
[22:16] <Scoop7> because echo $USER gives ubuntu
[22:16] <unixbeard> Thanks for all the help guys.
[22:16] <Scoop7> i am not root guys
[22:16] <Scoop7> damn
[22:18] <ElTimablo> Hey, powertop is showing my laptop's integrated webcam as active all the time and draining 3.5W because of it. USB autosuspend is enabled for it, but it never suspends.
[22:18] <ElTimablo> The device that's eating my battery is apparently my webcam, which I'm not using and haven't used since I installed 17.10 the other day.
[22:23] <jccc> --
[22:32] <Scoop7> how you login to ubuntu as root in aws ?
[22:32] <Scoop7> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:33] <Sveta> Scoop7 hello
[22:33] <platzhirsch> How can I delete the data of my gnome-calendar app? I want to reset it
[22:33] <platzhirsch> Can't find where the files for that are stored
[22:33] <Scoop7> Sveta hello, your name looks familiar
[22:33] <Sveta> Scoop7 aws should tell you root login data (allow to set ssh pubkey or password) and ip, you can use that in the ssh client for example
[22:34] <Scoop7> I've logged in to ubuntu but for "echo $USER" it says ubuntu <-- clearly not root
[22:41] <Sveta> Scoop7 you can try 'id ubuntu' to check whether it has sudo
[22:42] <Sveta> Scoop7 it would list the groups the user is in; if one of these groups is 'sudo' then you can use 'sudo foobar' to run 'foobar' as root
[22:42] <Scoop7> uid=1000(ubuntu) gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=1000(ubuntu),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(netdev),110(lxd)
[22:42] <Scoop7> So I am root ?
[22:43] <Sveta> not technically root, but you have root access through sudo :)
[22:44] <Sveta> you can try, say, `sudo apt update' and then `sudo apt upgrade` to upgrade your system
[22:44] <Sveta> if you do that, it would run `apt update' and `apt upgrade' as root
[22:51] <Sveta> platzhirsch: hello
[22:51] <platzhirsch> Sveta:hey
[22:54] <Sveta> platzhirsch: i'll try to find out, currently using apt-file to list all files installed by the gnome-calendar package. give me a few mins
[22:55] <manu__> torrent
[22:56] <oerheks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[22:58] <elkclone> close
[22:59] <Sveta> platzhirsch: I couldn't find it and don't have it installed. If possible, try `grep -r calendar ~` or `find ~ -name *calendar*`
[23:00] <_28kb> strange behavior at ubuntu 16.04 startup... picture gets frozen while showing desktop
[23:01] <_28kb> then I go ctrl-alt-f1... log and type sudo service lightdm restart..
[23:01] <_28kb> after that desktop works fine
[23:02] <Sveta> it gets frozen after you logged in in your dm, right?
[23:02] <_28kb> but i have to do it always
[23:02] <_28kb> I got no logon screen at startup
[23:03] <_28kb> freeze happens right after showing desktop background and dash at left
[23:04] <_28kb> nothing shows up in upper right corner
[23:04] <_28kb> machine is old though...
[23:04] <n4n0`> _28kb, just a blank image right? no trays or anything
[23:04] <_28kb> not blank.. you can see frozen desktop
[23:04] <n4n0`> need to enable verbosity, that is an error with WM
[23:05] <_28kb> ty
[23:05] <_28kb> :)
[23:05] <_28kb> that's logging
[23:05] <n4n0`> :) i am forever in your debt
[23:06] <n4n0`> need more details basically _28kb
[23:06] <_28kb> ok.. i'll do it
[23:06] <n4n0`> if you want
[23:06] <_28kb> want to solve
[23:07] <n4n0`> just remember you'll never solve the matrix.
[23:07] <fiord> hey all
[23:07] <Sveta> as an alternative I'd try it with another freshly created user on the OS
[23:08] <Sveta> although more WM logging is outright useful, it's probably a shorter path
[23:08] <_28kb> ok sveta
[23:09] <_28kb> I got this libvirt-quemu dude on list
[23:09] <platzhirsch> Sveta: thanks
[23:10] <n4n0`> ty Sveta
[23:10] <Sveta> platzhirsch: please let me know what you find, it's only a first step I think
[23:11] <platzhirsch> I don't fin danything, I found some stuff in .cache and .gconf
[23:11] <platzhirsch> but removing it didn't do anything
[23:11] <_28kb> i created administrator user without being prompted for password. is that ok?
[23:11] <_28kb> pass is the same?
[23:12] <Sveta> platzhirsch: try to purge the package and then install it again (apt purge, apt install)
[23:12] <Sveta> platzhirsch: i.e. `sudo apt purge gnome-calendar` and `sudo apt install gnome-calendar`
[23:12] <_28kb> found pass entry...
[23:12] <Sveta> good :-)
[23:17] <turbo64> the amdgpu driver isnt working in 17.10
[23:17] <turbo64> i have a southern islands card and it worked out of the box in 17.04
[23:17] <turbo64> but in 17.10 its not working and i get missing firmware errors when i update-initramfs
[23:18] <turbo64> and i cant find any packages for amd gpu firmware
[23:19] <Sveta> to see more info on your card, maybe a pastebin of `lspci -vmmnn` could be useful
[23:20] <turbo64> https://pastebin.com/s71xqbTL
[23:20] <Sveta> (that's https://pastebin.com/raw/s71xqbTL without the ads)
[23:21] <turbo64> according to archwiki a kernel parameter is required to enable si support since 4.13
[23:21] <turbo64> so im gonna try that
[23:21] <turbo64> brb
[23:24] <turbo64> alright that fixed it
[23:24] <turbo64> i dont know why they require that parameter now
[23:24] <Sveta> which kernel parameter did you use?
[23:25] <turbo64> amdgpu.si_support=1
[23:25] <turbo64> if you add that and blacklist the radeon driver it works
[23:25] <turbo64> in 17.04 it automatically loaded the amdgpu driver without having to change anything
[23:26] <Sveta> great, thanks for sharing
[23:27] <Scoop7> just installed mysql and redis on the same instance I have ubuntu on aws.... should I feel bad for not setting up another service one for RDS and some other for Redis? :\
[23:27] <Scoop7> another instance*
[23:29] <_28kb> didn't turn off automatic logon... I created new user... even got some boot log by removing quiet from splash
[23:29] <_28kb> desktop froze again
[23:31] <platzhirsch> Sveta: tried that as well
[23:31] <platzhirsch> it's sooo persistent
[23:43] <Sveta> platzhirsch: i can't believe 'grep' and 'find' didn't find anything yet it keeps the data
[23:44] <platzhirsch> Sveta: I know right
[23:45] <Sveta> could ask at irc.gnome.org #gnome as a next step
[23:45] <dax> turbo64: SI support for amdgpu is best-effort and not really official. The kernel parameter is because of that and is an upstream amdgpu decision.
[23:45] <Sveta> thanks dax!
[23:45] <dax> recommendation for SI cards last i looked was to continue using the radeon driver unless you had a good reason not to
[23:49] <_28kb> logging as different user - no difference
[23:49] <_28kb> verbose turned on - no difference
[23:53] <Niytro> hi
[23:54] <_28kb> i'll just keep logging on with ctrl-alt-f1 and restarting lightdm