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[00:48] <mparillo> Discover saw 5.11.2 in backports-landing, flashed a few times between 80-odd updates and my system is up-to-date, but eventually settled down  and appeared to apply the update.
[00:50] <valorie> apt says nah, nuttin' new
[00:50] <valorie> well, I removed both PPAs once I upgraded
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[00:51] <mparillo> Re-booted my VM,and kinfocenter is happily reporting 5.11.2 with KF 5.39
[00:52] <valorie> me too!
[00:52] <valorie> well, I'm running this on my main lappy
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[00:52] <valorie> contrary to all good sense
[00:52] <valorie> livin' on the edge
[00:53] <mparillo> Now all we need is Apps 17.08
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[02:28] <DarinMiller> +2 for 2 systems here (real hw) running 5.11.2 just fine.
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[02:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[02:37] <valorie> real hardware here as well, DarinMiller
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[02:56] <mamarley> +5 from me :)
[02:56]  * mamarley has too many PCs.
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[04:54] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> clivejo, can we get this in the archive? https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show.php/Systemd-kcm?content=161871
[04:54] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> please ping me if you answer
[04:57] <valorie> @ovidiuflorin is it in Debian?
[04:57] <valorie> if so, probably yes
[04:58] <valorie> if not, that's probably the best route
[04:58] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> No idea
[04:58] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> The conversation of adding this already took place once
[04:59] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I was just hoping that by pushing it again maybe I can...
[04:59] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I don't know I'm just hoping here
[04:59] <valorie> oh, it's in the KDE infra as systemd-kcm
[05:00] <valorie> and it's been ported
[05:00] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I just remembered about it this morning and the link I gave was the first result in Google
[05:01] <valorie> pretty sure that we would need the release from KDE
[05:01] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Nice
[05:01] <valorie> if it's had one, then dunno why we're not
[05:01] <valorie> !info systemd-kcm
[05:01] <ubottu> Package systemd-kcm does not exist in artful
[05:02] <valorie> file a "needs packaging" bug in LP
[05:02] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> On what Project?
[05:03] <valorie> https://download.kde.org/stable/systemd-kcm/
[05:03] <valorie> looks dead though
[05:03] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Not much you need to add to just a few beer commands
[05:03] <valorie> kcm I guess
[05:03] <valorie> kde control module
[05:04] <valorie> nows the time to get it in and test it
[05:05] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> For the bionic badger?
[05:05] <valorie> yep
[05:06] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> By the way Valorie, I'm buying a house
[05:06] <valorie> wow, cool
[05:06] <valorie> that's a big step
[05:07] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> What can I say I'm a big boy now
[05:07] <valorie> vote of confidence in your country
[05:07] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> If you say so
[05:09] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> How much does it cost in the US an 800 square metre land with a 100 square metre house on it in the middle of the city question mark
[05:09] <valorie> well, in Seattle, getting close to a million
[05:09] <valorie> maybe over
[05:09] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Ok thank you
[05:09] <valorie> in detroit, nearly free
[05:10] <valorie> so it's all location
[05:10] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> That's 20 times over here
[05:10] <valorie> Seattle is outrageous
[05:10] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> But my city is not a major city in my country
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[05:11] <valorie> we bought our house an hour out of Seattle for 32,000
[05:11] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Los Angeles is even worse
[05:11] <valorie> now it's worth maybe 300
[05:11] <valorie> that is 40 years, but still
[05:11] <valorie> I mean 300,000
[05:12] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> What structure?
[05:12] <valorie> rambler
[05:12] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Made out of wood question mark
[05:12] <valorie> all one level
[05:12] <valorie> yes
[05:13] <valorie> Seattle isn't a *major* city either, just the largest in Washington state
[05:13] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> What houses are not very common in Romania
[05:13] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Brick and concrete is the norm here
[05:14] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> brick and concrete are the norm here
[05:14] <valorie> https://goo.gl/maps/J5Jgj4zk63n
[05:15] <valorie> street view of our house
[05:15] <valorie> must be a couple of years ago
[05:16] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I can show you my future house because the Google car decided to skip only that street
[05:16] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I can't
[05:17] <valorie> you didn't take a photo?
[05:17] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I like how the house is surrounded by green Nature
[05:17] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I want that
[05:17] <valorie> mine? yes, I love it
[05:18] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> We are working right now on getting a credit
[05:19] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Not the proudest moment of my life
[05:19] <valorie> why is that?
[05:19] <valorie> getting a mortgage is the usual way here
[05:20] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Because I end up paying to the bank allmost double back
[05:20] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I'm not sure I understand the difference
[05:21] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Can you explain how the Mortgage Works
[05:21] <valorie> well, then pay extra every month you can
[05:21] <valorie> and make sure that the bank applies that to your balance
[05:22] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> that's the plan
[05:22] <valorie> I'm sure you can find good docs on the web for first time buyers
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[08:29] <blaze> who was asking for systemd-kcm? see the package kde-config-systemd
[08:30] <blaze> it's a standard debian naming policy: all kcms should be kde-config-something
[08:42] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> I'll look
[08:42] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> Thank you
[08:51] <acheronuk> clivejo packaged systemdgenie? which is not that same, so maybe thinking of that?
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[11:31] <yofel> huh, why is the maximum concurrent build count set to 0 for the merger jobs o.O
[11:31] <yofel> that's supposed to say 10
[11:32] <clivejo> know me not
[11:32] <yofel> knowing myself that was probably me in trying to do something crazy and don't remember it
[11:32] <clivejo> would 0 not be unlimited?
[11:32] <clivejo> limited only to the number of slots?
[11:33] <yofel> probably. And 250 merges on master running at the same time sounds like a recipe for desaster
[11:33] <yofel> tough that shouldn't fail either..
[11:34] <yofel> hm, the template was set to 0 for ages. I wonder where that 10 came from that we had there in the past
[11:35] <clivejo> surely the git trottle would tame that down a bit
[11:36] <yofel> aaaaah. The git push back to launchpad might not be covered by that
[11:37] <yofel> oops
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:43] <clivejo> the git push is disabled
[11:44] <clivejo> I'd like to get that working again though
[11:45] <clivejo> do you know why the name was changed to include +p17.04 was added?
[12:33] <acheronuk> clivejo: it needs to be there, otherwise you could not upgrade between series safely
[12:36] <mamarley> Speaking of upgrading, yesterday I upgraded a computer running Kubuntu Wily directly to Artful at one time. xD
[12:36] <mamarley> It went fine, besides a few file overwrite errors from dpkg.
[12:41] <acheronuk> mamarley: wow! :)
[12:42] <BluesKaj> mamarley, separate / and /home partitions I bet
[12:42] <mamarley> BluesKaj: Nope, one big partition for everything.
[12:43] <mamarley> I don't partition like that because it reduces the efficiency of storage space usage on the disk.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> lucky you , I would have never tried an upgrade jumping over 2 releases
[12:45] <mamarley> It was actually 3 releases (w->x->y->z->a) :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> right
[12:46] <mamarley> I was definitely prepared to clean up breakage, but I didn't need to.  I didn't even need to wipe the Plasma settings.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> so what trick did you use ?
[12:47] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> pure luck!
[12:48] <IrcsomeBot> <acheronuk> just kidding.....
[12:48] <mamarley> I just did s/wily/artful/ in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and did a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade.
[12:48] <mamarley> No tricks, really.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, is right, you got lucky, mamarley
[12:49] <mamarley> I figured it would be faster than babysitting it through 4 do-release-upgrades.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> or a clean install with home dir backed up?
[12:52] <mamarley> Yanking the home directory off of it and reinstalling was my last contingency if everything else screwed up.
[13:27] <yofel> /var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.3.0/gems/git-1.3.0/lib/git/lib.rb:937:in `command': git '--git-dir=/var/lib/jenkins/workspace/merger_ksnakeduel/.git' '--work-tree=/tmp/KCIMerger20171025-14522-kf983c' push 'origin' 'kubuntu_xenial_backports' 'kubuntu_zesty_backports' 'kubuntu_stable' 'kubuntu_unstable'  2>&1:fatal: Could not read from remote repository. (Git::GitExecuteError)
[13:27] <yofel> clivejo: doesn't read very disabled to me ^
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[13:29] <acheronuk> yofel: think clive meant the automatic symbol updates?
[13:29] <clivejo> I thought you meant push to LP git
[13:29] <clivejo> can't push to them as Scarlett configured it to clone from https
[13:30] <yofel> okay, consider me slightly confused now as that should mean above command should be failing every time. Not just this time on a connection timeout
[13:30] <yofel> unless it had nothing to push I guess
[13:31] <acheronuk> + it would push symbols with unwanted +p17.10 before the date/timestamp, which would make then near to useless
[13:31] <yofel> that is true
[13:32] <clivejo> I changed it and it started to push back to LP, but with the name change ( +p17.04 ) the new symbols were fooked up
[13:32] <clivejo> so reverted
[13:32] <yofel> did you really update the CI afterwards?
[13:32] <yofel>  > /var/lib/jenkins/tooling3/git-monitor/git config remote.origin.url git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ksnakeduel # timeout=10
[13:32] <acheronuk> if we could set out the +p(series) and then push, that would be ok
[13:32] <acheronuk> s/set/sed
[13:33] <clivejo> doesn't apt figure out the series?
[13:34] <acheronuk> I surmised scarlett realised that problem, so disabled. maybe with intention of fixing, but never did
[13:34] <yofel> no, it knows it, but the moment the older release has a higher build version you're screwed unless you have properly configured pins
[13:35] <yofel> and automatic version downgrades on release upgrads isn't something apt does out of the box
[13:35] <acheronuk> updating with new symbols, would be nice, but not essential, as we pick them up on staging each version we will ship
[13:36] <acheronuk> sybold going missing is the part to flag, and that works fine in the -dev release
[13:38] <acheronuk> on balance I would rather have the +p(series) in there, rather than dump to just have a symbols push
[13:40] <acheronuk> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.8.php
[13:40] <acheronuk> no sure I will be able to get to that today^^^
[13:41] <clivejo> on the other side, KCI are development PPA's and not sure upgrading series is something we need to support?
[13:41] <clivejo> yes Neon need it
[13:42] <acheronuk> it also makes things a lot less confusing when looking at builds
[13:43] <acheronuk> I am -1 for doing away with it, just to get a symbol push that we don't really need
[13:43] <clivejo> but I do like the idea of maybe providing a rolling based Kubuntu :)
[13:44] <clivejo> neon has proved there is a demand for it
[13:44] <acheronuk> clivejo: you can continually fix PIM on it then. I won't
[13:44] <clivejo> LOL
[13:45] <clivejo> I mean rolling with stable
[13:45] <clivejo> unstable is very roller coastery
[13:46] <acheronuk> if we gain some full time develpoers, why not
[13:46] <clivejo> but by keeping unstable in shape, it does help us get releases out the door faster
[13:46] <acheronuk> *full time paid
[13:48] <clivejo> doubt any of the funding sources ding so in the past would be up for that
[13:49] <acheronuk> ding?
[13:49] <acheronuk> *doing
[13:49] <clivejo> doing
[13:49] <clivejo> finger still hurting :(
[13:49] <acheronuk> yeah. just wishful thinking
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[14:37] <acheronuk> can someone start on a list of packages to MOTU early into bionic?
[14:38] <acheronuk> qqc-desktop-style for frameworks and plasma-vault are the 2 most obvious
[14:39] <acheronuk> I am a bit busy today
[14:40] <vrmuppalla> Why not merge your efforts with Neon ? Both appear to have the same goals.
[14:41] <acheronuk> history precludes that to a certain extent, though we are friendly and collaborate/cooperate
[14:42] <acheronuk> I for example can commit to Neon packaging, and do so to solve common problems
[14:43] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @vrmuppalla, Merging with Neon isn't really something we should do, there's purposes for both and some long history behind it...
[14:43] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Neon used to be the Kubuntu team
[14:44] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Then things happened and it's better to remain separate projects as we have separate goals
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[14:46] <acheronuk> we cooperate. we are friendly. some of our devs contribute to both. that is about as far as we can take it formally at the moment
[14:47] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> Exactly
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[16:02] <blaze> acheronuk: kio-gdrive?
[16:03] <acheronuk> yep, that needs to go in. once I fix signon-ui in the archive
[16:07] <IrcsomeBot> <ovidiuflorin> thank you blaze
[16:08] <blaze> np
[20:09] <valorie> !info peruse
[20:09] <ubottu> Package peruse does not exist in bionic
[20:10] <valorie> acheronuk: ^^^
[20:11] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, I will try to finish this tonight and do what I can to upload it when I upload all of my other stuff
[20:11] <valorie> ooooooo thank you!
[20:12] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, Running Bionic yet?
[20:15] <valorie> not yet
[20:15] <valorie> are you?
[20:15] <valorie> I should update my travel laptop -- there is nothing at stake there
[20:15] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @valorie, Not home from school yet
[20:16] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> But soon
[20:22] <mparillo> Has to be via sed magic. No BB ISOs yet.
[20:27] <valorie> right, that's the way I got artful here
[20:27] <valorie> and zest before that, if I'm not mistaken
[20:27] <valorie> zesty
[20:46] <IrcsomeBot> <tsimonq2> @mparillo, ...which I always do ;)
[21:15] <valorie> toolchain going to bionic as scheduled
[21:15] <valorie> tsimonq2: I think I'll wait until we get plasma 5.11.2 into bionic before upgrading
[21:16] <tsimonq2> valorie: Ok.
[21:19]  * mamarley will probably upgrade to Bionic this weekend.
[21:21] <valorie> the coolness of running it will not cancel the missing of plasma 5.11.2!
[21:27] <mamarley> The trick there is to just keep the PPAs set to Artful until the packages are available for Bionic.
[21:44] <valorie> mamarley: shouldn't have to wait too long, I think
[21:45] <valorie> by alpha 1, surely most of our packages will be synced, copied over, or uploaded
[21:54] <mamarley> Alpha 1 isn't until January 4!
[22:03] <valorie> well, the holidays are about to hit so that will seem like a few days from now
[22:03] <valorie> I"m afraid
[22:12] <tsimonq2> valorie: I'd say JFDI :)
[22:13] <valorie> !language | tsimonq2
[22:13] <ubottu> tsimonq2: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[22:13] <valorie> :-)
[22:14] <tsimonq2> Just Finely Do It
[22:14] <tsimonq2> :)))
[22:14] <valorie> haha
[22:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo: Can I get a(n) ACK/NACK from both of you for staging Plasma 5.8.8 to Xenial Plasma Staging to eventually go into Backports Staging then Backports?
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[23:20] <yofel> o.O
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