[04:35] <Gnudnik0> I just upgraded from Kubuntu zesty to artful and now I can seem get to the GUI with a MD/ATI] Bonaire XT [Radeon HD 7790/8770 / R7 360 / R9 260/360 OEM display adapter using the radeon driver, presumably. I can see a splash screen in sddm or lightdm, gdm3 just seems to freeze the interface, but I can't seem to get to the desktop. Not a lot of wayland packages seemed to be added during the upgrade. Should I consider using the amdgpu driver?
[04:37] <Gnudnik0> startx also isn't working. I'm not seeing any EE lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:37] <Gnudnik0> Should I rip out all the wayland packages?
[04:39] <Gnudnik0> Apparently both amdgpu and radeon are loaded, I don't know if that is a problem.  lsmod | grep -i amdgpu
[04:39] <Gnudnik0> drm_kms_helper        167936  2 amdgpu,radeon  - drm_kms_helper        167936  2 amdgpu,radeon
[04:40] <Gnudnik0> drm                   356352  7 amdgpu,radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[05:03] <tjaalton> gdm doesn't use X
[05:03] <tjaalton> and having both drivers loaded doesn't matter
[05:18] <Gnudnik0> GDM seems to completely free the system though I can ssh in to it and it is responive.
[05:21] <Gnudnik0> htop shows I'm using ~400 MB of RAM, not in X, and very little of my 8 CPUs
[05:23] <Gnudnik0> From lightdm I can get in to X, so far xfce & gnome, but it takes forever and in gnome I can't seem to launch any programs, clicking on the icons just stalls out. Very frustrating. I guess I'm going to strip all the wayland stuff out.
[05:23] <tjaalton> you're not using X
[05:24] <tjaalton> oh
[05:24] <tjaalton> lightdm
[05:24] <Gnudnik0> I have tried using "Ubuntu on Xorg", that doesn't work, let me reboot before I hack out wayland and try Ubuntu in wayland
[05:24] <tjaalton> lightdm can't start a wayland session, I think that's a known issue
[05:25] <Gnudnik0> Can sddm?
[05:25] <tjaalton> dunno
[05:25] <tjaalton> there's nothing special with waylandified gnome-shell
[05:25] <tjaalton> just some new bugs
[05:26] <tjaalton> better security maybe, not being able to lauch some apps
[05:26] <tjaalton> issues with gdm belong to #ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <tjaalton> a similar issue was supposed to be fixed a day before release
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[05:54] <Gnudnik0> I stripped off gdm, though I've left the wayland for the time being, tjaalton, but the system is still really weird even with lightdm and gdm and I don't seem to be able to startx.  I'm trying the latest mainline kernel and I removed amd64-microcode on the theory that it is closed source and maybe buggy and AMD may make decent hardware, but have never been famed for their software. Oh, also, when I finally got to plasma pulseaudio was showing as a dummy output. 
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