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R13oseI can't find the boot splash system settings when I upgraded to 17.10.  Where is thatm01:31
R13ose?01:31
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noireCan someone help me resolve an issue I'm having with font rendering in some programs?04:26
valorienoire: I don't know much about fonts, but there has been a recent discussion in Kubuntu-user mail list04:32
hai2u( 'x')  hi! anyone know the kde 17.10 equivlent of kdeglobals? I'm trying to remove the start new session option from the lockscreen.  Google hasn't turned up much.05:37
[Relic]Does anyone know how to change, and keep, a different wallpaper in 14.04 and not have the file overwritten with adding the default Elarun wall paper after a reboot?  I checked the files to make 100% sure it was not there before reboot.05:42
user|83145hi, can someone help me?05:55
hateball!ask | user|8314505:57
ubottuuser|83145: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:57
lordievaderGood morning06:06
BlessedHey07:56
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BlessedHey i want to install KUBUNTU wehere i need to install bootloader? im going to install ubuntu on extended /dev/sdb4 or /dev/sdb507:57
Blessedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25821908/07:58
lordievaderBlessed: Do you boot from /dev/sdb or /dev/sda?07:58
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Blessedlordievader: /dev/sda :) there is also Windows 1007:59
lordievaderThen install the bootloader to /dev/sda.07:59
Blessedlordievader:  not on /dev/sdb1?07:59
Blessedlordievader: ok if you say so :)07:59
Blessedim seeing boot flag on /dev/sdb107:59
lordievaderGrub is installed to a drive, not a partition.07:59
Blessedlordievader: ah okay why boot flag on /dev/sdb1?08:00
lordievaderAsk the one who set the flag ;)08:00
Blessedlordievader: do i need to make swap partition too?08:00
Blessedlordievader: ok i didnt ;D08:00
lordievaderDepends.08:00
Blessedlordievader:  how much for 2GB ram?08:00
lordievaderHow much ram do you have and do you want to be able to do hibernate?08:00
Blessedlordievader: nah i dont want to hibernate08:01
lordievaderOh, 2G. Then yes, you want swap.08:01
Blessedlordievader: then how much?08:01
lordievaderPeople usually say 1.5 times the amount of ram. I usually match the amount of ram.08:02
Blessedlordievader: wow 3GB?08:02
Blessedokay08:02
lordievaderWell, 2gb is very little...08:03
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Blessedlordievader: thanks friend :)08:10
alterjsivelordievader rules :-)08:20
lordievaderXD08:20
alterjsivedid anyone upgrade to 17.10 yet? I'm on 17.04. Is it stable?08:21
hateballalterjsive: No issues moving from 17.04 to 17.10 that I noticed. Not like you have much option anyway, since 17.04 is going EOL in a few months08:25
alterjsivehateball: ah ok, yeah I've had some stability problems in the past, I guess I could give it a go a bit later.08:27
BlessedHey kubuntu installation seems to hang on 90%... that;s normal?08:39
acheronukBlessed: not in any way normal08:41
Blessedacheronuk: what should i do? :(08:43
Blessedacheronuk: i dont see any info.. is there a way to check log or something?08:43
acheronukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity#During_installation_or_from_a_Live_Session08:45
Blessedacheronuk: for what should i look?08:46
Blessedacheronuk: i dont see anything wrong08:50
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BlessedI tried to install flashplugin this is what i get:09:11
Blessedhttps://i.imgur.com/ixHrjK2.png09:11
hateballBlessed: go into software sources and uncheck cdrom09:17
Blessedhateball: where can i find software sources09:20
hateballBlessed: run software-properties-kde in a terminal09:21
Blessedhow to install deb files in kubuntu09:33
Blessedgraphical one doesnt seem to work09:33
Blessedi enter password and it does nothing09:35
Uzzihi I haven't found howto about synergy before login config on sddm.  can you help me?09:48
BluesKajHowdy folks10:13
ForceRecongood morning everyone10:15
BluesKajhi ForceRecon10:18
ForceReconhey mate.. how you doing.. another day another buckwheat?10:20
ForceReconwhen does this working thing end? Its cutting into my sleep10:20
BluesKajmine ended a long time ago, I'm retired10:24
ForceReconwell that is fantastic..10:25
ForceReconwhy the hell are you up at 6am..10:25
ForceRecon:D10:26
BluesKajyeah, ? being old isn't much fun...the so called goldem years aren't so golden when yuou get there10:26
ForceReconI noticed this was a habit with you.. I am usually on here at 4am ish..10:26
BluesKajmostly i wake up between 6 and 7Am EDT10:27
ForceReconwell I am glad you are here, so keep being on time.. heh10:29
* BluesKaj goes for another coffee10:30
ForceReconI just downloaded kubuntu 17.10 about 5 minutes ago.. opened it up in vmware.. I see the wallpaper but there are no icons and no, well.. nothing to click on.. weird10:33
ForceReconhttps://pasteboard.co/GQHDAgN.png10:34
BluesKajtry the kmenu10:36
ForceReconI already restarted it.. now its just looking at me10:37
ForceReconweirdness..10:38
BluesKajcan you get a terminal?10:38
BluesKajif not try a vt/tty10:38
ForceReconhttps://pasteboard.co/GQHFuPq9.png10:38
ForceRecongonna reinstall this one.. give me a moment10:39
BluesKajthen updqate/upgrade with apt10:39
BluesKajnot familiar with using vmware10:40
ForceReconthis is strange.. just reinstalled it and its doing the same thing..10:42
ForceReconhmm..10:42
ForceReconctrl alt T does nothing.. cannot even right click10:43
hateballForceRecon: do you have open-vm-tools-desktop installed10:43
ForceReconsure do10:43
BluesKajI don't use virtualization, it's not the same as the real thing IME10:43
ForceReconI am running other vmware sessions but this is the only one that does not function10:43
hateballForceRecon: do you even know if vmware workstation 12 support 17.10?10:44
ForceReconit did..10:44
hateballodd10:44
ForceReconI was using it primarily before I decided to change my OS to kubuntu10:44
ForceReconthat's how I know I liked it10:44
ForceReconIll figure it out.. told it to use 2 processors.. gonna change that back to one10:45
ForceReconSunrise in 40 minutes..10:51
ForceReconI am downloading 17.04 to see it that runs..10:51
ForceReconsomething is wrong with kubuntu on vmware now.. I just downloaded and installed fedora as well and that is fine..11:01
ForceReconthis is perplexing11:01
BluesKajtry dual booting11:02
ForceReconyep, that is next11:02
ForceReconI must be getting old.. that is one nice background. - https://pasteboard.co/GQHPIfP.png11:04
BluesKajyeah fedora 26?11:05
ForceReconyeah workstation.. the wallpaper is animated too11:05
BluesKajthis is my desktop , a little less dreary than the fedora  https://postimg.org/image/38lh007paz/11:12
ForceReconnice view11:13
ForceReconI can't do desktop images with pictures they tend to strain my eyes11:14
BluesKajyup, it's a photo taken from a park in the middle of a small city nearby11:15
ForceReconhttps://video.nest.com/live/g2U0rQsetQ11:17
ForceReconif you can see that.. that is my balcony..11:18
ForceReconsun is coming up11:18
ForceReconwhich reminds me I need to adjust that camera.. it moved..11:19
BluesKajon the east coast11:21
ForceReconisland on the east coast.. yup11:22
BluesKajwhich island ?11:22
ForceReconislemorada11:23
BluesKajahh Florida...nice11:24
mrme01Ping?11:25
ForceReconthis whole thing does not make sense to me.. How do you start .. wow.. there was a delay in vmware.. it was like it was setting things up..11:25
BluesKajI'm in Canada, in Northern Ontario near the noth shore of Lake Huron aka The North Channel of Georgian Bay11:25
ForceReconso it shows you the wallpaper, but you wait like 4 minutes and then it restarts and then asks you to log in and wala!11:25
ForceReconso kubuntu is back in buisiness.  Just have to be patient11:26
ForceReconthat's a good distance from me BluesKaj11:26
BluesKajyup, it is ForceRecon11:26
ForceReconI have been to all of Canada. I was a lot younger then.. I remember Ontario having LOTS of churches and people were actually washing their sidewalks outside their buildings11:31
ForceReconthat was a long time ago11:31
ForceReconback in the 80s11:31
BluesKajlots of churches ..hmm, I've been all over Ontario, must have been a university town like kingston11:35
BluesKajbeen all over Canada for that matter, except the far North11:36
BluesKajvisited the US quite few times too, but not in past 10yrs or so11:37
BluesKajI tried various VMs over the yrs, but but maybe this old pc is just not capable of a good VM experience ... still chugging away tho :-)11:38
ForceRecontime for a new PC... :) This one cost me about 1500.00 in 2014.. This machine is really pretty awesome.11:47
ForceReconactually 2041.94  wow.. that was a bit at the time.. but its a champ11:50
ForceReconand it was in 201511:50
ForceReconalmost 3 years old come april next year..11:51
ForceReconwhew time really chugs along11:51
ForceReconSorry, the program "plasmashell" closed unexpectedly11:57
ForceReconYour computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.11:57
BluesKaj??11:58
ForceRecontrying to do updates for kubuntu and that always seems to occur.. I get the mad face in the panel11:59
ForceReconkinda funny looking face... lol11:59
BluesKajmy son built a new pc based around an i7 cpu with nvidia GTX1050 and 2 samsung 850 ssds , forgtten the mobo maker now ...asus maybe...it's a nice machine, much more that I'd ever need12:00
ForceReconbeen trying to do updates through UPdates and it has been like 10 minutes.. still not showing any progress12:00
ForceReconpackages download failed..12:01
ForceReconsomething about the respository missing..12:01
ForceReconcould not catch the error.. what log would have that in the tail12:01
BluesKajdo you have any active ppas , if so remove them12:01
ForceReconthis is a new install.. unless they were put there by kubuntu I did nothing12:02
BluesKaja clean install, not a release upgrade ?12:03
ForceReconthis is a clean install of 17.10 as of 1 hour ago12:04
ForceReconI just wish I knew the linux commands to check things better..12:04
BluesKajlike I said VMs aren't the real thing to me ... prefer to dual boot if i decide to run other distros12:05
ForceReconWhen I close down the vm.. I get Firmware Bug - TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update micricode to version: 0x22 ( or later ) just fyi'n12:06
BluesKajyou could try update and full-upgrade ,,,oh microcode, there's another thing I avoid12:07
BluesKajonna reboot , just sed'd my sources.list to Bionic  and the base packages came down..brb12:11
hateballWhy would you avoid installing intel microcode? They're released to fix CPU related issues you know...12:16
ForceReconI have tried a few times to install the intel microcode.. it seems to go through and then comes back to the same screen with the option unchecked and there is a double.12:18
robertjuliuswhen i try to download new widgets using the add on installer, i always get : loading of providers from file: https://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml failed12:19
robertjuliusmy webbrowser has no trouble reaching this file12:20
hateballForceRecon: you can do it from cli, "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"12:20
hateballForceRecon: and as a bonus you get some output what it tries to achieve12:20
ForceReconthanks for the information.. It is trying to connect to us.archive.unbuntu.com now, seems to be on a ipv6 adddress.  it is thinking..12:23
BluesKajhateball, microcode is also vailable for amd cpus but I've never seen any benefit from it12:26
hateballMuch like there's no benefit to security patches until you get hacked :)12:27
BluesKajheh12:28
ForceReconthat went through.. wonder why the gui is having so much trouble12:28
ForceReconintel-microcode: microcode will be updated at next boot12:28
ForceReconProcessing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.125ubuntu12) ...12:28
ForceReconupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-16-generic12:28
ForceReconwow, that reboots in like 5 seconds12:29
ForceReconcrazy awesome12:29
BluesKajwell, if it's so important, why isn't microcode default?12:29
hateballI'm guessing for distribution license reasons12:31
hateballlike with flash or whatever12:31
BluesKajflash is usually default tho12:32
hateballif you tick the "pull in third party stuff" box, but it's not distributed on install media12:33
hateballand if you tick that, I think microcode gets installed as well, just like it installs eg the nvidia blob12:33
BluesKajI don't usually, but I run chrome12:34
BluesKajand nvidia12:34
ForceReconis this normal -12:36
ForceReconsudo apt-get update12:36
ForceRecon[sudo] password for forcerecon:12:36
ForceReconHit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful InRelease12:36
ForceReconHit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-updates InRelease12:36
ForceReconHit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-backports InRelease12:36
hateball!paste | ForceRecon12:36
ubottuForceRecon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:36
ForceReconheh..12:37
ForceReconyeah I did not think it was that many lines12:37
ForceReconthis updating to connect takes so long for some reason.. still connecting12:37
ForceReconI get a system notification helper on my install.. says hey!  you can get added functionality if you install this..  click it.. ahh flash.. so flash not by default.. just an fyi12:39
ForceReconthen I try and get it and it says..sorry..12:39
hateballwell if it's trying to connect over ipv6 and your network is misconfigured, it'll take a while12:39
hateballForceRecon: you can force ipv4 like so "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update"12:40
hateballand for upgrade, install etc12:40
hateballif it works better you can set it permanent12:41
ForceReconhow do you break an update in progress..12:41
hateballForceRecon: ctrl+c12:41
ForceReconwill ctrl + c work12:41
ForceReconahh.. okay12:41
hateballdont kill it if it's actually upgrading/installing packages tho12:41
ForceReconwow that command you have just did it in like 1 second..12:42
ForceReconso much better.12:42
ForceReconwhat is the command for dist-upgrade12:42
hateballwell, the same... replace update with dist-upgrade obviously :p12:43
ForceReconjust wanted to make sure12:43
hateballForceRecon: if you want to make it permanent you run: echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' |sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv412:46
ForceReconhow to turn off ipv6 or ignore using ipv612:46
hateballForceRecon: but ideally you should fix the ipv6 routing if possible12:46
ForceReconhow do you know these damn commands12:47
ForceReconhow do you even learn that shit12:47
hateballI have decent google-fu12:48
hateballAnd know how to read man-pages :p12:48
ForceReconoh now were getting mean.. ;)12:48
BluesKajmy isp support told me to disble ipv6  settings in my router/modem12:49
hateballPretty hilarious the ISP isnt sorting out ipv6 if they provide modems that have it enabled by default12:50
hateballIt's 2017!12:50
hateballBy hilarious I mean sad. But whatever :D12:50
ForceReconwell it is working for all the other machines in the house, so I think it is specific to kubuntu for some reason..12:50
BluesKajwell that was 3 yrs ago12:51
hateballForceRecon: And what do your other machines run?12:51
ForceRecondebian, windows, linux mint DE12:51
hateballForceRecon: And do they run inside a hypervisor too?12:51
hateballAs it's possible the bridging isnt working for ipv6 in vmware workstation (I am just guessing)12:52
ForceReconI think you are correct sir.12:53
ForceReconI am working on it now.12:53
ForceReconI am going to try nat.. I usually use bridged mode with replication of physical network state.. I do this because when using kali it is suggest and I am usually using a usb wifi for itself.12:54
ForceReconI don't think this is needed for just using kubuntu under vm12:54
ForceRecongonna try that now and see if it changes anything12:54
hateballNAT is a headache on its own12:55
hateballanyhow, if you don't need ipv6 right now, the commands above should make apt behave12:56
ForceReconwell that did it12:56
ForceReconworks like a charm now12:56
ForceRecon147kB in 0s12:56
ForceReconhow do you turn off the clipboard.. seems like everything I type gets put there13:00
hateballrightclick your tray, after unlocking the desktop if it isnt already13:01
hateballand then configure, untick Klipper/Clipboard manager13:01
hateballWhy would you want to tho? :|13:01
hateballForceRecon: by default (I think) it intercepts X clipboard, so it's more likely that you hilight things and they get put into klipper13:02
ForceReconI don't// I just want to know how13:02
ForceReconI really do like kubuntu13:06
ForceReconand you guys rock!13:06
ForceReconwow.. it was actually suggested online that a bug report be filed for disable clipboard as they moved klipper into the plasmashell and you can no longer cheat MaxClipItems=0 in klipperrc13:12
ForceReconI would think that this might be a security concern.. copy and pasting passwords and such, never a good idea, but people do it13:13
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hateballWhy would that be a security concern?13:16
hateballIt's not as if your clipboard history is stored outside your user context13:17
ForceReconpeople looking over shoulders.. could potentially see what is on your clipboard, or sit down at your desk and take a peek13:18
ForceReconcould just limit it to 1 entry13:19
ForceReconthat should alleviate concerns..13:19
hateballMhm13:19
hateballI'd be more worried about copying/pasting passwords instead of using a password manager or ssh keys in the first place13:19
ForceReconI agree..  but people do it13:20
ForceReconthis wolfenstein colloseus looks pretty good13:22
ForceReconcolossus13:22
ForceReconwhoops13:22
anton_phi. after upgrading to 17.10 i lost my printer and can't even configure it. any ideas what to check?16:09
anton_pprobably i miss some package16:09
ghostcubeanton_p: have you checked the cups packages?16:11
anton_pyes: ii  cups16:12
anton_pi can't find printer configuration in system settings16:13
anton_pprinter-driver-gutenprint/artful,now 5.2.13-1 amd64 [installed]16:13
anton_pok, found missing print-manager16:15
anton_pppd 5.2.11 is not compatible with gutenprint 5.2.12....16:16
amitoshHi all!16:36
amitoshI upgraded to KUbuntu 17.10 from 17.04, now I get display artefacts in Konsole16:36
amitoshWhat could be the reason ?16:37
amitoshI have a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti (using proprietary drivers) but currently running on Intel card on X (not wayland)16:38
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BluesKajwhich gpu has the "artifacts" ?17:05
BluesKajamitosh, ^17:08
amitoshBluesKaj: Intel17:08
BluesKajhow's the behaviour on the nvidia ?17:09
amitoshHaven't tried yet.17:10
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amitoshBluesKaj: It doesnt appear on NVIDIA17:17
BluesKajamitosh, so you know what to use17:21
amitoshThats a temporary fix, NVIDIA just sucks up too much of power17:39
amitoshWhere should I report this ?17:39
klemaxHello I have some devices. Before opening them on dolphin, must be asked sudo password to mount them.17:46
klemaxHow to do it?17:46
amitoshklemax: I thnik some udev rules will help you to restrict access17:59
klemaxamitosh: Thats really good idea. Thanks18:02
BluesKajamitosh, that nvidia gpu requires a psu of at least 500watts18:02
amitoshBluesKaj: Its a notebook18:11
BluesKajamitosh, with a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti gpu?..must be a very scaled down version in that case18:12
amitoshyes18:15
amitoshI used to run 16.04, then 17.04 on it without issues18:16
BluesKajas long as you stick with X11 with the nvidia driver you'll be fine. Nvidia doesn't provide wayland support yet18:18
oh5on ubuntu, if you hit the windows super key, you can see all applications come to the front to see what windows you have open. Is there a similar shortcut for kubuntu?18:27
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BluesKajoh5, the windows key on kubuntu shows the kmenu18:28
gonssalHi there. Is anyone having big problems with Akregator after updating to 17.10?18:33
oh4BluesKaj: yes, I know...my question is if there is a shortcut for it to work like it does on ubuntu or if I can set it to work that way?18:40
oh4I prefer to keep it the way it works on kubuntu but wondering if there is a shortcut in kubuntu that does what the super key does in ubuntu?18:40
jaafarWow, what an update :(18:48
jaafar17.10 killed my networking18:48
jaafarspecifically DNS18:48
jaafarJust got done with a 2 hour debugging session18:49
jaafarresolv.conf always points to 127.0.1.1 but nothing is listening there18:49
jaafarnetwork connection settings ignored18:49
jaafarsolution: install dnsmasq, tell it to listen on 127.0.1.118:49
jaafarAnd my nvidia/nouveau situation had to be re-fixed, as always18:50
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ForceReconI hope all of you have a great weekend.. thanks.. Be well21:22
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mclmmHi, how would I disable guest account creation? ( lockscreen & login )21:56
mclmm( Kubuntu 17.10 )21:56
geniiIn the conf file for the window manager, so either lightdm.conf or sddm.conf21:56
mclmmdidn't see a lightdm.conf so I'll head there, thank you so much!21:57
freetownhello all23:56
freetowni have that infamous problem of a black screen with a cursor after login...23:57
freetownif i have an application running and focused, the screen comes back23:57
freetownbut hitting Alt-F1 for the menu or Alt-F2 and hitting the KDE button on the taskbar will return to black screen23:58
freetownKubuntu 16.04, Nvidia Quadro M2000 with latest stable Nvidia driver23:59
freetownanybody know the exact issue with KDE?23:59

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