[01:31] <R13ose> I can't find the boot splash system settings when I upgraded to 17.10.  Where is thatm
[01:31] <R13ose> ?
[04:26] <noire> Can someone help me resolve an issue I'm having with font rendering in some programs?
[04:32] <valorie> noire: I don't know much about fonts, but there has been a recent discussion in Kubuntu-user mail list
[05:37] <hai2u> ( 'x')  hi! anyone know the kde 17.10 equivlent of kdeglobals? I'm trying to remove the start new session option from the lockscreen.  Google hasn't turned up much.
[05:42] <[Relic]> Does anyone know how to change, and keep, a different wallpaper in 14.04 and not have the file overwritten with adding the default Elarun wall paper after a reboot?  I checked the files to make 100% sure it was not there before reboot.
[05:55] <user|83145> hi, can someone help me?
[05:57] <hateball> !ask | user|83145
[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:56] <Blessed> Hey
[07:57] <Blessed> Hey i want to install KUBUNTU wehere i need to install bootloader? im going to install ubuntu on extended /dev/sdb4 or /dev/sdb5
[07:58] <Blessed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25821908/
[07:58] <lordievader> Blessed: Do you boot from /dev/sdb or /dev/sda?
[07:59] <Blessed> lordievader: /dev/sda :) there is also Windows 10
[07:59] <lordievader> Then install the bootloader to /dev/sda.
[07:59] <Blessed> lordievader:  not on /dev/sdb1?
[07:59] <Blessed> lordievader: ok if you say so :)
[07:59] <Blessed> im seeing boot flag on /dev/sdb1
[07:59] <lordievader> Grub is installed to a drive, not a partition.
[08:00] <Blessed> lordievader: ah okay why boot flag on /dev/sdb1?
[08:00] <lordievader> Ask the one who set the flag ;)
[08:00] <Blessed> lordievader: do i need to make swap partition too?
[08:00] <Blessed> lordievader: ok i didnt ;D
[08:00] <lordievader> Depends.
[08:00] <Blessed> lordievader:  how much for 2GB ram?
[08:00] <lordievader> How much ram do you have and do you want to be able to do hibernate?
[08:01] <Blessed> lordievader: nah i dont want to hibernate
[08:01] <lordievader> Oh, 2G. Then yes, you want swap.
[08:01] <Blessed> lordievader: then how much?
[08:02] <lordievader> People usually say 1.5 times the amount of ram. I usually match the amount of ram.
[08:02] <Blessed> lordievader: wow 3GB?
[08:02] <Blessed> okay
[08:03] <lordievader> Well, 2gb is very little...
[08:10] <Blessed> lordievader: thanks friend :)
[08:20] <alterjsive> lordievader rules :-)
[08:20] <lordievader> XD
[08:21] <alterjsive> did anyone upgrade to 17.10 yet? I'm on 17.04. Is it stable?
[08:25] <hateball> alterjsive: No issues moving from 17.04 to 17.10 that I noticed. Not like you have much option anyway, since 17.04 is going EOL in a few months
[08:27] <alterjsive> hateball: ah ok, yeah I've had some stability problems in the past, I guess I could give it a go a bit later.
[08:39] <Blessed> Hey kubuntu installation seems to hang on 90%... that;s normal?
[08:41] <acheronuk> Blessed: not in any way normal
[08:43] <Blessed> acheronuk: what should i do? :(
[08:43] <Blessed> acheronuk: i dont see any info.. is there a way to check log or something?
[08:45] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity#During_installation_or_from_a_Live_Session
[08:46] <Blessed> acheronuk: for what should i look?
[08:50] <Blessed> acheronuk: i dont see anything wrong
[09:11] <Blessed> I tried to install flashplugin this is what i get:
[09:11] <Blessed> https://i.imgur.com/ixHrjK2.png
[09:17] <hateball> Blessed: go into software sources and uncheck cdrom
[09:20] <Blessed> hateball: where can i find software sources
[09:21] <hateball> Blessed: run software-properties-kde in a terminal
[09:33] <Blessed> how to install deb files in kubuntu
[09:33] <Blessed> graphical one doesnt seem to work
[09:35] <Blessed> i enter password and it does nothing
[09:48] <Uzzi> hi I haven't found howto about synergy before login config on sddm.  can you help me?
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:15] <ForceRecon> good morning everyone
[10:18] <BluesKaj> hi ForceRecon
[10:20] <ForceRecon> hey mate.. how you doing.. another day another buckwheat?
[10:20] <ForceRecon> when does this working thing end? Its cutting into my sleep
[10:24] <BluesKaj> mine ended a long time ago, I'm retired
[10:25] <ForceRecon> well that is fantastic..
[10:25] <ForceRecon> why the hell are you up at 6am..
[10:26] <ForceRecon> :D
[10:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, ? being old isn't much fun...the so called goldem years aren't so golden when yuou get there
[10:26] <ForceRecon> I noticed this was a habit with you.. I am usually on here at 4am ish..
[10:27] <BluesKaj> mostly i wake up between 6 and 7Am EDT
[10:29] <ForceRecon> well I am glad you are here, so keep being on time.. heh
[10:30]  * BluesKaj goes for another coffee
[10:33] <ForceRecon> I just downloaded kubuntu 17.10 about 5 minutes ago.. opened it up in vmware.. I see the wallpaper but there are no icons and no, well.. nothing to click on.. weird
[10:34] <ForceRecon> https://pasteboard.co/GQHDAgN.png
[10:36] <BluesKaj> try the kmenu
[10:37] <ForceRecon> I already restarted it.. now its just looking at me
[10:38] <ForceRecon> weirdness..
[10:38] <BluesKaj> can you get a terminal?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> if not try a vt/tty
[10:38] <ForceRecon> https://pasteboard.co/GQHFuPq9.png
[10:39] <ForceRecon> gonna reinstall this one.. give me a moment
[10:39] <BluesKaj> then updqate/upgrade with apt
[10:40] <BluesKaj> not familiar with using vmware
[10:42] <ForceRecon> this is strange.. just reinstalled it and its doing the same thing..
[10:42] <ForceRecon> hmm..
[10:43] <ForceRecon> ctrl alt T does nothing.. cannot even right click
[10:43] <hateball> ForceRecon: do you have open-vm-tools-desktop installed
[10:43] <ForceRecon> sure do
[10:43] <BluesKaj> I don't use virtualization, it's not the same as the real thing IME
[10:43] <ForceRecon> I am running other vmware sessions but this is the only one that does not function
[10:44] <hateball> ForceRecon: do you even know if vmware workstation 12 support 17.10?
[10:44] <ForceRecon> it did..
[10:44] <hateball> odd
[10:44] <ForceRecon> I was using it primarily before I decided to change my OS to kubuntu
[10:44] <ForceRecon> that's how I know I liked it
[10:45] <ForceRecon> Ill figure it out.. told it to use 2 processors.. gonna change that back to one
[10:51] <ForceRecon> Sunrise in 40 minutes..
[10:51] <ForceRecon> I am downloading 17.04 to see it that runs..
[11:01] <ForceRecon> something is wrong with kubuntu on vmware now.. I just downloaded and installed fedora as well and that is fine..
[11:01] <ForceRecon> this is perplexing
[11:02] <BluesKaj> try dual booting
[11:02] <ForceRecon> yep, that is next
[11:04] <ForceRecon> I must be getting old.. that is one nice background. - https://pasteboard.co/GQHPIfP.png
[11:05] <BluesKaj> yeah fedora 26?
[11:05] <ForceRecon> yeah workstation.. the wallpaper is animated too
[11:12] <BluesKaj> this is my desktop , a little less dreary than the fedora  https://postimg.org/image/38lh007paz/
[11:13] <ForceRecon> nice view
[11:14] <ForceRecon> I can't do desktop images with pictures they tend to strain my eyes
[11:15] <BluesKaj> yup, it's a photo taken from a park in the middle of a small city nearby
[11:17] <ForceRecon> https://video.nest.com/live/g2U0rQsetQ
[11:18] <ForceRecon> if you can see that.. that is my balcony..
[11:18] <ForceRecon> sun is coming up
[11:19] <ForceRecon> which reminds me I need to adjust that camera.. it moved..
[11:21] <BluesKaj> on the east coast
[11:22] <ForceRecon> island on the east coast.. yup
[11:22] <BluesKaj> which island ?
[11:23] <ForceRecon> islemorada
[11:24] <BluesKaj> ahh Florida...nice
[11:25] <mrme01> Ping?
[11:25] <ForceRecon> this whole thing does not make sense to me.. How do you start .. wow.. there was a delay in vmware.. it was like it was setting things up..
[11:25] <BluesKaj> I'm in Canada, in Northern Ontario near the noth shore of Lake Huron aka The North Channel of Georgian Bay
[11:25] <ForceRecon> so it shows you the wallpaper, but you wait like 4 minutes and then it restarts and then asks you to log in and wala!
[11:26] <ForceRecon> so kubuntu is back in buisiness.  Just have to be patient
[11:26] <ForceRecon> that's a good distance from me BluesKaj
[11:26] <BluesKaj> yup, it is ForceRecon
[11:31] <ForceRecon> I have been to all of Canada. I was a lot younger then.. I remember Ontario having LOTS of churches and people were actually washing their sidewalks outside their buildings
[11:31] <ForceRecon> that was a long time ago
[11:31] <ForceRecon> back in the 80s
[11:35] <BluesKaj> lots of churches ..hmm, I've been all over Ontario, must have been a university town like kingston
[11:36] <BluesKaj> been all over Canada for that matter, except the far North
[11:37] <BluesKaj> visited the US quite few times too, but not in past 10yrs or so
[11:38] <BluesKaj> I tried various VMs over the yrs, but but maybe this old pc is just not capable of a good VM experience ... still chugging away tho :-)
[11:47] <ForceRecon> time for a new PC... :) This one cost me about 1500.00 in 2014.. This machine is really pretty awesome.
[11:50] <ForceRecon> actually 2041.94  wow.. that was a bit at the time.. but its a champ
[11:50] <ForceRecon> and it was in 2015
[11:51] <ForceRecon> almost 3 years old come april next year..
[11:51] <ForceRecon> whew time really chugs along
[11:57] <ForceRecon> Sorry, the program "plasmashell" closed unexpectedly
[11:57] <ForceRecon> Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> ??
[11:59] <ForceRecon> trying to do updates for kubuntu and that always seems to occur.. I get the mad face in the panel
[11:59] <ForceRecon> kinda funny looking face... lol
[12:00] <BluesKaj> my son built a new pc based around an i7 cpu with nvidia GTX1050 and 2 samsung 850 ssds , forgtten the mobo maker now ...asus maybe...it's a nice machine, much more that I'd ever need
[12:00] <ForceRecon> been trying to do updates through UPdates and it has been like 10 minutes.. still not showing any progress
[12:01] <ForceRecon> packages download failed..
[12:01] <ForceRecon> something about the respository missing..
[12:01] <ForceRecon> could not catch the error.. what log would have that in the tail
[12:01] <BluesKaj> do you have any active ppas , if so remove them
[12:02] <ForceRecon> this is a new install.. unless they were put there by kubuntu I did nothing
[12:03] <BluesKaj> a clean install, not a release upgrade ?
[12:04] <ForceRecon> this is a clean install of 17.10 as of 1 hour ago
[12:04] <ForceRecon> I just wish I knew the linux commands to check things better..
[12:05] <BluesKaj> like I said VMs aren't the real thing to me ... prefer to dual boot if i decide to run other distros
[12:06] <ForceRecon> When I close down the vm.. I get Firmware Bug - TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update micricode to version: 0x22 ( or later ) just fyi'n
[12:07] <BluesKaj> you could try update and full-upgrade ,,,oh microcode, there's another thing I avoid
[12:11] <BluesKaj> onna reboot , just sed'd my sources.list to Bionic  and the base packages came down..brb
[12:16] <hateball> Why would you avoid installing intel microcode? They're released to fix CPU related issues you know...
[12:18] <ForceRecon> I have tried a few times to install the intel microcode.. it seems to go through and then comes back to the same screen with the option unchecked and there is a double.
[12:19] <robertjulius> when i try to download new widgets using the add on installer, i always get : loading of providers from file: https://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml failed
[12:20] <robertjulius> my webbrowser has no trouble reaching this file
[12:20] <hateball> ForceRecon: you can do it from cli, "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[12:20] <hateball> ForceRecon: and as a bonus you get some output what it tries to achieve
[12:23] <ForceRecon> thanks for the information.. It is trying to connect to us.archive.unbuntu.com now, seems to be on a ipv6 adddress.  it is thinking..
[12:26] <BluesKaj> hateball, microcode is also vailable for amd cpus but I've never seen any benefit from it
[12:27] <hateball> Much like there's no benefit to security patches until you get hacked :)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> heh
[12:28] <ForceRecon> that went through.. wonder why the gui is having so much trouble
[12:28] <ForceRecon> intel-microcode: microcode will be updated at next boot
[12:28] <ForceRecon> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.125ubuntu12) ...
[12:28] <ForceRecon> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-16-generic
[12:29] <ForceRecon> wow, that reboots in like 5 seconds
[12:29] <ForceRecon> crazy awesome
[12:29] <BluesKaj> well, if it's so important, why isn't microcode default?
[12:31] <hateball> I'm guessing for distribution license reasons
[12:31] <hateball> like with flash or whatever
[12:32] <BluesKaj> flash is usually default tho
[12:33] <hateball> if you tick the "pull in third party stuff" box, but it's not distributed on install media
[12:33] <hateball> and if you tick that, I think microcode gets installed as well, just like it installs eg the nvidia blob
[12:34] <BluesKaj> I don't usually, but I run chrome
[12:34] <BluesKaj> and nvidia
[12:36] <ForceRecon> is this normal -
[12:36] <ForceRecon> sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <ForceRecon> [sudo] password for forcerecon:
[12:36] <ForceRecon> Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful InRelease
[12:36] <ForceRecon> Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-updates InRelease
[12:36] <ForceRecon> Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-backports InRelease
[12:36] <hateball> !paste | ForceRecon
[12:37] <ForceRecon> heh..
[12:37] <ForceRecon> yeah I did not think it was that many lines
[12:37] <ForceRecon> this updating to connect takes so long for some reason.. still connecting
[12:39] <ForceRecon> I get a system notification helper on my install.. says hey!  you can get added functionality if you install this..  click it.. ahh flash.. so flash not by default.. just an fyi
[12:39] <ForceRecon> then I try and get it and it says..sorry..
[12:39] <hateball> well if it's trying to connect over ipv6 and your network is misconfigured, it'll take a while
[12:40] <hateball> ForceRecon: you can force ipv4 like so "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update"
[12:40] <hateball> and for upgrade, install etc
[12:41] <hateball> if it works better you can set it permanent
[12:41] <ForceRecon> how do you break an update in progress..
[12:41] <hateball> ForceRecon: ctrl+c
[12:41] <ForceRecon> will ctrl + c work
[12:41] <ForceRecon> ahh.. okay
[12:41] <hateball> dont kill it if it's actually upgrading/installing packages tho
[12:42] <ForceRecon> wow that command you have just did it in like 1 second..
[12:42] <ForceRecon> so much better.
[12:42] <ForceRecon> what is the command for dist-upgrade
[12:43] <hateball> well, the same... replace update with dist-upgrade obviously :p
[12:43] <ForceRecon> just wanted to make sure
[12:46] <hateball> ForceRecon: if you want to make it permanent you run: echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' |sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4
[12:46] <ForceRecon> how to turn off ipv6 or ignore using ipv6
[12:46] <hateball> ForceRecon: but ideally you should fix the ipv6 routing if possible
[12:47] <ForceRecon> how do you know these damn commands
[12:47] <ForceRecon> how do you even learn that shit
[12:48] <hateball> I have decent google-fu
[12:48] <hateball> And know how to read man-pages :p
[12:48] <ForceRecon> oh now were getting mean.. ;)
[12:49] <BluesKaj> my isp support told me to disble ipv6  settings in my router/modem
[12:50] <hateball> Pretty hilarious the ISP isnt sorting out ipv6 if they provide modems that have it enabled by default
[12:50] <hateball> It's 2017!
[12:50] <hateball> By hilarious I mean sad. But whatever :D
[12:50] <ForceRecon> well it is working for all the other machines in the house, so I think it is specific to kubuntu for some reason..
[12:51] <BluesKaj> well that was 3 yrs ago
[12:51] <hateball> ForceRecon: And what do your other machines run?
[12:51] <ForceRecon> debian, windows, linux mint DE
[12:51] <hateball> ForceRecon: And do they run inside a hypervisor too?
[12:52] <hateball> As it's possible the bridging isnt working for ipv6 in vmware workstation (I am just guessing)
[12:53] <ForceRecon> I think you are correct sir.
[12:53] <ForceRecon> I am working on it now.
[12:54] <ForceRecon> I am going to try nat.. I usually use bridged mode with replication of physical network state.. I do this because when using kali it is suggest and I am usually using a usb wifi for itself.
[12:54] <ForceRecon> I don't think this is needed for just using kubuntu under vm
[12:54] <ForceRecon> gonna try that now and see if it changes anything
[12:55] <hateball> NAT is a headache on its own
[12:56] <hateball> anyhow, if you don't need ipv6 right now, the commands above should make apt behave
[12:56] <ForceRecon> well that did it
[12:56] <ForceRecon> works like a charm now
[12:56] <ForceRecon> 147kB in 0s
[13:00] <ForceRecon> how do you turn off the clipboard.. seems like everything I type gets put there
[13:01] <hateball> rightclick your tray, after unlocking the desktop if it isnt already
[13:01] <hateball> and then configure, untick Klipper/Clipboard manager
[13:01] <hateball> Why would you want to tho? :|
[13:02] <hateball> ForceRecon: by default (I think) it intercepts X clipboard, so it's more likely that you hilight things and they get put into klipper
[13:02] <ForceRecon> I don't// I just want to know how
[13:06] <ForceRecon> I really do like kubuntu
[13:06] <ForceRecon> and you guys rock!
[13:12] <ForceRecon> wow.. it was actually suggested online that a bug report be filed for disable clipboard as they moved klipper into the plasmashell and you can no longer cheat MaxClipItems=0 in klipperrc
[13:13] <ForceRecon> I would think that this might be a security concern.. copy and pasting passwords and such, never a good idea, but people do it
[13:16] <hateball> Why would that be a security concern?
[13:17] <hateball> It's not as if your clipboard history is stored outside your user context
[13:18] <ForceRecon> people looking over shoulders.. could potentially see what is on your clipboard, or sit down at your desk and take a peek
[13:19] <ForceRecon> could just limit it to 1 entry
[13:19] <ForceRecon> that should alleviate concerns..
[13:19] <hateball> Mhm
[13:19] <hateball> I'd be more worried about copying/pasting passwords instead of using a password manager or ssh keys in the first place
[13:20] <ForceRecon> I agree..  but people do it
[13:22] <ForceRecon> this wolfenstein colloseus looks pretty good
[13:22] <ForceRecon> colossus
[13:22] <ForceRecon> whoops
[16:09] <anton_p> hi. after upgrading to 17.10 i lost my printer and can't even configure it. any ideas what to check?
[16:09] <anton_p> probably i miss some package
[16:11] <ghostcube> anton_p: have you checked the cups packages?
[16:12] <anton_p> yes: ii  cups
[16:13] <anton_p> i can't find printer configuration in system settings
[16:13] <anton_p> printer-driver-gutenprint/artful,now 5.2.13-1 amd64 [installed]
[16:15] <anton_p> ok, found missing print-manager
[16:16] <anton_p> ppd 5.2.11 is not compatible with gutenprint 5.2.12....
[16:36] <amitosh> Hi all!
[16:36] <amitosh> I upgraded to KUbuntu 17.10 from 17.04, now I get display artefacts in Konsole
[16:37] <amitosh> What could be the reason ?
[16:38] <amitosh> I have a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti (using proprietary drivers) but currently running on Intel card on X (not wayland)
[17:05] <BluesKaj> which gpu has the "artifacts" ?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> amitosh, ^
[17:08] <amitosh> BluesKaj: Intel
[17:09] <BluesKaj> how's the behaviour on the nvidia ?
[17:10] <amitosh> Haven't tried yet.
[17:17] <amitosh> BluesKaj: It doesnt appear on NVIDIA
[17:21] <BluesKaj> amitosh, so you know what to use
[17:39] <amitosh> Thats a temporary fix, NVIDIA just sucks up too much of power
[17:39] <amitosh> Where should I report this ?
[17:46] <klemax> Hello I have some devices. Before opening them on dolphin, must be asked sudo password to mount them.
[17:46] <klemax> How to do it?
[17:59] <amitosh> klemax: I thnik some udev rules will help you to restrict access
[18:02] <klemax> amitosh: Thats really good idea. Thanks
[18:02] <BluesKaj> amitosh, that nvidia gpu requires a psu of at least 500watts
[18:11] <amitosh> BluesKaj: Its a notebook
[18:12] <BluesKaj> amitosh, with a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti gpu?..must be a very scaled down version in that case
[18:15] <amitosh> yes
[18:16] <amitosh> I used to run 16.04, then 17.04 on it without issues
[18:18] <BluesKaj> as long as you stick with X11 with the nvidia driver you'll be fine. Nvidia doesn't provide wayland support yet
[18:27] <oh5> on ubuntu, if you hit the windows super key, you can see all applications come to the front to see what windows you have open. Is there a similar shortcut for kubuntu?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> oh5, the windows key on kubuntu shows the kmenu
[18:33] <gonssal> Hi there. Is anyone having big problems with Akregator after updating to 17.10?
[18:40] <oh4> BluesKaj: yes, I know...my question is if there is a shortcut for it to work like it does on ubuntu or if I can set it to work that way?
[18:40] <oh4> I prefer to keep it the way it works on kubuntu but wondering if there is a shortcut in kubuntu that does what the super key does in ubuntu?
[18:48] <jaafar> Wow, what an update :(
[18:48] <jaafar> 17.10 killed my networking
[18:48] <jaafar> specifically DNS
[18:49] <jaafar> Just got done with a 2 hour debugging session
[18:49] <jaafar> resolv.conf always points to 127.0.1.1 but nothing is listening there
[18:49] <jaafar> network connection settings ignored
[18:49] <jaafar> solution: install dnsmasq, tell it to listen on 127.0.1.1
[18:50] <jaafar> And my nvidia/nouveau situation had to be re-fixed, as always
[21:22] <ForceRecon> I hope all of you have a great weekend.. thanks.. Be well
[21:56] <mclmm> Hi, how would I disable guest account creation? ( lockscreen & login )
[21:56] <mclmm> ( Kubuntu 17.10 )
[21:56] <genii> In the conf file for the window manager, so either lightdm.conf or sddm.conf
[21:57] <mclmm> didn't see a lightdm.conf so I'll head there, thank you so much!
[23:56] <freetown> hello all
[23:57] <freetown> i have that infamous problem of a black screen with a cursor after login...
[23:57] <freetown> if i have an application running and focused, the screen comes back
[23:58] <freetown> but hitting Alt-F1 for the menu or Alt-F2 and hitting the KDE button on the taskbar will return to black screen
[23:59] <freetown> Kubuntu 16.04, Nvidia Quadro M2000 with latest stable Nvidia driver
[23:59] <freetown> anybody know the exact issue with KDE?