=== Winter_ is now known as Winter === Winter is now known as Winter_ === Winter_ is now known as Winter [01:31] I can't find the boot splash system settings when I upgraded to 17.10. Where is thatm [01:31] ? === noire is now known as noire__ [04:26] Can someone help me resolve an issue I'm having with font rendering in some programs? [04:32] noire: I don't know much about fonts, but there has been a recent discussion in Kubuntu-user mail list [05:37] ( 'x') hi! anyone know the kde 17.10 equivlent of kdeglobals? I'm trying to remove the start new session option from the lockscreen. Google hasn't turned up much. [05:42] <[Relic]> Does anyone know how to change, and keep, a different wallpaper in 14.04 and not have the file overwritten with adding the default Elarun wall paper after a reboot? I checked the files to make 100% sure it was not there before reboot. [05:55] hi, can someone help me? [05:57] !ask | user|83145 [05:57] user|83145: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [06:06] Good morning [07:56] Hey === el is now known as elky [07:57] Hey i want to install KUBUNTU wehere i need to install bootloader? im going to install ubuntu on extended /dev/sdb4 or /dev/sdb5 [07:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25821908/ [07:58] Blessed: Do you boot from /dev/sdb or /dev/sda? === elky is now known as el [07:59] lordievader: /dev/sda :) there is also Windows 10 [07:59] Then install the bootloader to /dev/sda. [07:59] lordievader: not on /dev/sdb1? [07:59] lordievader: ok if you say so :) [07:59] im seeing boot flag on /dev/sdb1 [07:59] Grub is installed to a drive, not a partition. [08:00] lordievader: ah okay why boot flag on /dev/sdb1? [08:00] Ask the one who set the flag ;) [08:00] lordievader: do i need to make swap partition too? [08:00] lordievader: ok i didnt ;D [08:00] Depends. [08:00] lordievader: how much for 2GB ram? [08:00] How much ram do you have and do you want to be able to do hibernate? [08:01] lordievader: nah i dont want to hibernate [08:01] Oh, 2G. Then yes, you want swap. [08:01] lordievader: then how much? [08:02] People usually say 1.5 times the amount of ram. I usually match the amount of ram. [08:02] lordievader: wow 3GB? [08:02] okay [08:03] Well, 2gb is very little... === mea is now known as Guest92872 [08:10] lordievader: thanks friend :) [08:20] lordievader rules :-) [08:20] XD [08:21] did anyone upgrade to 17.10 yet? I'm on 17.04. Is it stable? [08:25] alterjsive: No issues moving from 17.04 to 17.10 that I noticed. Not like you have much option anyway, since 17.04 is going EOL in a few months [08:27] hateball: ah ok, yeah I've had some stability problems in the past, I guess I could give it a go a bit later. [08:39] Hey kubuntu installation seems to hang on 90%... that;s normal? [08:41] Blessed: not in any way normal [08:43] acheronuk: what should i do? :( [08:43] acheronuk: i dont see any info.. is there a way to check log or something? [08:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity#During_installation_or_from_a_Live_Session [08:46] acheronuk: for what should i look? [08:50] acheronuk: i dont see anything wrong === mib is now known as Guest93269 [09:11] I tried to install flashplugin this is what i get: [09:11] https://i.imgur.com/ixHrjK2.png [09:17] Blessed: go into software sources and uncheck cdrom [09:20] hateball: where can i find software sources [09:21] Blessed: run software-properties-kde in a terminal [09:33] how to install deb files in kubuntu [09:33] graphical one doesnt seem to work [09:35] i enter password and it does nothing [09:48] hi I haven't found howto about synergy before login config on sddm. can you help me? [10:13] Howdy folks [10:15] good morning everyone [10:18] hi ForceRecon [10:20] hey mate.. how you doing.. another day another buckwheat? [10:20] when does this working thing end? Its cutting into my sleep [10:24] mine ended a long time ago, I'm retired [10:25] well that is fantastic.. [10:25] why the hell are you up at 6am.. [10:26] :D [10:26] yeah, ? being old isn't much fun...the so called goldem years aren't so golden when yuou get there [10:26] I noticed this was a habit with you.. I am usually on here at 4am ish.. [10:27] mostly i wake up between 6 and 7Am EDT [10:29] well I am glad you are here, so keep being on time.. heh [10:30] * BluesKaj goes for another coffee [10:33] I just downloaded kubuntu 17.10 about 5 minutes ago.. opened it up in vmware.. I see the wallpaper but there are no icons and no, well.. nothing to click on.. weird [10:34] https://pasteboard.co/GQHDAgN.png [10:36] try the kmenu [10:37] I already restarted it.. now its just looking at me [10:38] weirdness.. [10:38] can you get a terminal? [10:38] if not try a vt/tty [10:38] https://pasteboard.co/GQHFuPq9.png [10:39] gonna reinstall this one.. give me a moment [10:39] then updqate/upgrade with apt [10:40] not familiar with using vmware [10:42] this is strange.. just reinstalled it and its doing the same thing.. [10:42] hmm.. [10:43] ctrl alt T does nothing.. cannot even right click [10:43] ForceRecon: do you have open-vm-tools-desktop installed [10:43] sure do [10:43] I don't use virtualization, it's not the same as the real thing IME [10:43] I am running other vmware sessions but this is the only one that does not function [10:44] ForceRecon: do you even know if vmware workstation 12 support 17.10? [10:44] it did.. [10:44] odd [10:44] I was using it primarily before I decided to change my OS to kubuntu [10:44] that's how I know I liked it [10:45] Ill figure it out.. told it to use 2 processors.. gonna change that back to one [10:51] Sunrise in 40 minutes.. [10:51] I am downloading 17.04 to see it that runs.. [11:01] something is wrong with kubuntu on vmware now.. I just downloaded and installed fedora as well and that is fine.. [11:01] this is perplexing [11:02] try dual booting [11:02] yep, that is next [11:04] I must be getting old.. that is one nice background. - https://pasteboard.co/GQHPIfP.png [11:05] yeah fedora 26? [11:05] yeah workstation.. the wallpaper is animated too [11:12] this is my desktop , a little less dreary than the fedora https://postimg.org/image/38lh007paz/ [11:13] nice view [11:14] I can't do desktop images with pictures they tend to strain my eyes [11:15] yup, it's a photo taken from a park in the middle of a small city nearby [11:17] https://video.nest.com/live/g2U0rQsetQ [11:18] if you can see that.. that is my balcony.. [11:18] sun is coming up [11:19] which reminds me I need to adjust that camera.. it moved.. [11:21] on the east coast [11:22] island on the east coast.. yup [11:22] which island ? [11:23] islemorada [11:24] ahh Florida...nice [11:25] Ping? [11:25] this whole thing does not make sense to me.. How do you start .. wow.. there was a delay in vmware.. it was like it was setting things up.. [11:25] I'm in Canada, in Northern Ontario near the noth shore of Lake Huron aka The North Channel of Georgian Bay [11:25] so it shows you the wallpaper, but you wait like 4 minutes and then it restarts and then asks you to log in and wala! [11:26] so kubuntu is back in buisiness. Just have to be patient [11:26] that's a good distance from me BluesKaj [11:26] yup, it is ForceRecon [11:31] I have been to all of Canada. I was a lot younger then.. I remember Ontario having LOTS of churches and people were actually washing their sidewalks outside their buildings [11:31] that was a long time ago [11:31] back in the 80s [11:35] lots of churches ..hmm, I've been all over Ontario, must have been a university town like kingston [11:36] been all over Canada for that matter, except the far North [11:37] visited the US quite few times too, but not in past 10yrs or so [11:38] I tried various VMs over the yrs, but but maybe this old pc is just not capable of a good VM experience ... still chugging away tho :-) [11:47] time for a new PC... :) This one cost me about 1500.00 in 2014.. This machine is really pretty awesome. [11:50] actually 2041.94 wow.. that was a bit at the time.. but its a champ [11:50] and it was in 2015 [11:51] almost 3 years old come april next year.. [11:51] whew time really chugs along [11:57] Sorry, the program "plasmashell" closed unexpectedly [11:57] Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers. [11:58] ?? [11:59] trying to do updates for kubuntu and that always seems to occur.. I get the mad face in the panel [11:59] kinda funny looking face... lol [12:00] my son built a new pc based around an i7 cpu with nvidia GTX1050 and 2 samsung 850 ssds , forgtten the mobo maker now ...asus maybe...it's a nice machine, much more that I'd ever need [12:00] been trying to do updates through UPdates and it has been like 10 minutes.. still not showing any progress [12:01] packages download failed.. [12:01] something about the respository missing.. [12:01] could not catch the error.. what log would have that in the tail [12:01] do you have any active ppas , if so remove them [12:02] this is a new install.. unless they were put there by kubuntu I did nothing [12:03] a clean install, not a release upgrade ? [12:04] this is a clean install of 17.10 as of 1 hour ago [12:04] I just wish I knew the linux commands to check things better.. [12:05] like I said VMs aren't the real thing to me ... prefer to dual boot if i decide to run other distros [12:06] When I close down the vm.. I get Firmware Bug - TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update micricode to version: 0x22 ( or later ) just fyi'n [12:07] you could try update and full-upgrade ,,,oh microcode, there's another thing I avoid [12:11] onna reboot , just sed'd my sources.list to Bionic and the base packages came down..brb [12:16] Why would you avoid installing intel microcode? They're released to fix CPU related issues you know... [12:18] I have tried a few times to install the intel microcode.. it seems to go through and then comes back to the same screen with the option unchecked and there is a double. [12:19] when i try to download new widgets using the add on installer, i always get : loading of providers from file: https://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml failed [12:20] my webbrowser has no trouble reaching this file [12:20] ForceRecon: you can do it from cli, "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" [12:20] ForceRecon: and as a bonus you get some output what it tries to achieve [12:23] thanks for the information.. It is trying to connect to us.archive.unbuntu.com now, seems to be on a ipv6 adddress. it is thinking.. [12:26] hateball, microcode is also vailable for amd cpus but I've never seen any benefit from it [12:27] Much like there's no benefit to security patches until you get hacked :) [12:28] heh [12:28] that went through.. wonder why the gui is having so much trouble [12:28] intel-microcode: microcode will be updated at next boot [12:28] Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.125ubuntu12) ... [12:28] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-16-generic [12:29] wow, that reboots in like 5 seconds [12:29] crazy awesome [12:29] well, if it's so important, why isn't microcode default? [12:31] I'm guessing for distribution license reasons [12:31] like with flash or whatever [12:32] flash is usually default tho [12:33] if you tick the "pull in third party stuff" box, but it's not distributed on install media [12:33] and if you tick that, I think microcode gets installed as well, just like it installs eg the nvidia blob [12:34] I don't usually, but I run chrome [12:34] and nvidia [12:36] is this normal - [12:36] sudo apt-get update [12:36] [sudo] password for forcerecon: [12:36] Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful InRelease [12:36] Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-updates InRelease [12:36] Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-backports InRelease [12:36] !paste | ForceRecon [12:36] ForceRecon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:37] heh.. [12:37] yeah I did not think it was that many lines [12:37] this updating to connect takes so long for some reason.. still connecting [12:39] I get a system notification helper on my install.. says hey! you can get added functionality if you install this.. click it.. ahh flash.. so flash not by default.. just an fyi [12:39] then I try and get it and it says..sorry.. [12:39] well if it's trying to connect over ipv6 and your network is misconfigured, it'll take a while [12:40] ForceRecon: you can force ipv4 like so "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update" [12:40] and for upgrade, install etc [12:41] if it works better you can set it permanent [12:41] how do you break an update in progress.. [12:41] ForceRecon: ctrl+c [12:41] will ctrl + c work [12:41] ahh.. okay [12:41] dont kill it if it's actually upgrading/installing packages tho [12:42] wow that command you have just did it in like 1 second.. [12:42] so much better. [12:42] what is the command for dist-upgrade [12:43] well, the same... replace update with dist-upgrade obviously :p [12:43] just wanted to make sure [12:46] ForceRecon: if you want to make it permanent you run: echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' |sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4 [12:46] how to turn off ipv6 or ignore using ipv6 [12:46] ForceRecon: but ideally you should fix the ipv6 routing if possible [12:47] how do you know these damn commands [12:47] how do you even learn that shit [12:48] I have decent google-fu [12:48] And know how to read man-pages :p [12:48] oh now were getting mean.. ;) [12:49] my isp support told me to disble ipv6 settings in my router/modem [12:50] Pretty hilarious the ISP isnt sorting out ipv6 if they provide modems that have it enabled by default [12:50] It's 2017! [12:50] By hilarious I mean sad. But whatever :D [12:50] well it is working for all the other machines in the house, so I think it is specific to kubuntu for some reason.. [12:51] well that was 3 yrs ago [12:51] ForceRecon: And what do your other machines run? [12:51] debian, windows, linux mint DE [12:51] ForceRecon: And do they run inside a hypervisor too? [12:52] As it's possible the bridging isnt working for ipv6 in vmware workstation (I am just guessing) [12:53] I think you are correct sir. [12:53] I am working on it now. [12:54] I am going to try nat.. I usually use bridged mode with replication of physical network state.. I do this because when using kali it is suggest and I am usually using a usb wifi for itself. [12:54] I don't think this is needed for just using kubuntu under vm [12:54] gonna try that now and see if it changes anything [12:55] NAT is a headache on its own [12:56] anyhow, if you don't need ipv6 right now, the commands above should make apt behave [12:56] well that did it [12:56] works like a charm now [12:56] 147kB in 0s [13:00] how do you turn off the clipboard.. seems like everything I type gets put there [13:01] rightclick your tray, after unlocking the desktop if it isnt already [13:01] and then configure, untick Klipper/Clipboard manager [13:01] Why would you want to tho? :| [13:02] ForceRecon: by default (I think) it intercepts X clipboard, so it's more likely that you hilight things and they get put into klipper [13:02] I don't// I just want to know how [13:06] I really do like kubuntu [13:06] and you guys rock! [13:12] wow.. it was actually suggested online that a bug report be filed for disable clipboard as they moved klipper into the plasmashell and you can no longer cheat MaxClipItems=0 in klipperrc [13:13] I would think that this might be a security concern.. copy and pasting passwords and such, never a good idea, but people do it === jorgebuntu is now known as J_B === J_B is now known as J_Bb [13:16] Why would that be a security concern? [13:17] It's not as if your clipboard history is stored outside your user context [13:18] people looking over shoulders.. could potentially see what is on your clipboard, or sit down at your desk and take a peek [13:19] could just limit it to 1 entry [13:19] that should alleviate concerns.. [13:19] Mhm [13:19] I'd be more worried about copying/pasting passwords instead of using a password manager or ssh keys in the first place [13:20] I agree.. but people do it [13:22] this wolfenstein colloseus looks pretty good [13:22] colossus [13:22] whoops [16:09] hi. after upgrading to 17.10 i lost my printer and can't even configure it. any ideas what to check? [16:09] probably i miss some package [16:11] anton_p: have you checked the cups packages? [16:12] yes: ii cups [16:13] i can't find printer configuration in system settings [16:13] printer-driver-gutenprint/artful,now 5.2.13-1 amd64 [installed] [16:15] ok, found missing print-manager [16:16] ppd 5.2.11 is not compatible with gutenprint 5.2.12.... [16:36] Hi all! [16:36] I upgraded to KUbuntu 17.10 from 17.04, now I get display artefacts in Konsole [16:37] What could be the reason ? [16:38] I have a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti (using proprietary drivers) but currently running on Intel card on X (not wayland) === jonlybrand is now known as JL00000001 [17:05] which gpu has the "artifacts" ? [17:08] amitosh, ^ [17:08] BluesKaj: Intel [17:09] how's the behaviour on the nvidia ? [17:10] Haven't tried yet. === vlad__ is now known as DranikProgrammer [17:17] BluesKaj: It doesnt appear on NVIDIA [17:21] amitosh, so you know what to use [17:39] Thats a temporary fix, NVIDIA just sucks up too much of power [17:39] Where should I report this ? [17:46] Hello I have some devices. Before opening them on dolphin, must be asked sudo password to mount them. [17:46] How to do it? [17:59] klemax: I thnik some udev rules will help you to restrict access [18:02] amitosh: Thats really good idea. Thanks [18:02] amitosh, that nvidia gpu requires a psu of at least 500watts [18:11] BluesKaj: Its a notebook [18:12] amitosh, with a NVIDIA GTX 1050ti gpu?..must be a very scaled down version in that case [18:15] yes [18:16] I used to run 16.04, then 17.04 on it without issues [18:18] as long as you stick with X11 with the nvidia driver you'll be fine. Nvidia doesn't provide wayland support yet [18:27] on ubuntu, if you hit the windows super key, you can see all applications come to the front to see what windows you have open. Is there a similar shortcut for kubuntu? === oh5 is now known as oh4 [18:28] oh5, the windows key on kubuntu shows the kmenu [18:33] Hi there. Is anyone having big problems with Akregator after updating to 17.10? [18:40] BluesKaj: yes, I know...my question is if there is a shortcut for it to work like it does on ubuntu or if I can set it to work that way? [18:40] I prefer to keep it the way it works on kubuntu but wondering if there is a shortcut in kubuntu that does what the super key does in ubuntu? [18:48] Wow, what an update :( [18:48] 17.10 killed my networking [18:48] specifically DNS [18:49] Just got done with a 2 hour debugging session [18:49] resolv.conf always points to 127.0.1.1 but nothing is listening there [18:49] network connection settings ignored [18:49] solution: install dnsmasq, tell it to listen on 127.0.1.1 [18:50] And my nvidia/nouveau situation had to be re-fixed, as always === jorge_ is now known as jorge__ === jorge__ is now known as popy === sithlord48 is now known as rizzitello === putputlaw is now known as ppl === ppl is now known as putputlaw [21:22] I hope all of you have a great weekend.. thanks.. Be well === el is now known as elky === elky is now known as el [21:56] Hi, how would I disable guest account creation? ( lockscreen & login ) [21:56] ( Kubuntu 17.10 ) [21:56] In the conf file for the window manager, so either lightdm.conf or sddm.conf [21:57] didn't see a lightdm.conf so I'll head there, thank you so much! [23:56] hello all [23:57] i have that infamous problem of a black screen with a cursor after login... [23:57] if i have an application running and focused, the screen comes back [23:58] but hitting Alt-F1 for the menu or Alt-F2 and hitting the KDE button on the taskbar will return to black screen [23:59] Kubuntu 16.04, Nvidia Quadro M2000 with latest stable Nvidia driver [23:59] anybody know the exact issue with KDE?