[00:28] <dobey> sigh
[01:53] <a1fa> hm, chrome is not respecting the set cursor theme; what a B
[01:54] <a1fa> it defaults to the xorg default black
[02:06] <jamesh> a1fa: is this the snapped version?
[03:08] <jbicha> jamesh: I'm curious how your snap integration with gnome-builder work is going. I think one excuse for GNOME to be uninterested in snap is that their build tools don't support snap
[03:08] <jamesh> jbicha: no progress since the initial proof of concept.  I've had other higher priority tasks to work on unfortunately :(
[03:09] <jbicha> no problem, I appreciate your work on the other higher priority things :) :)
[05:05]  * flocculant would have appreciated Unit193 
[06:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[06:33] <didrocks> good morning
[06:35] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:35]  * oSoMoN -> school
[06:35] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:36] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, duflu
[06:39] <Trevinho> morning!
[06:43] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[07:42] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:42] <seb128> hey oSoMoN duflu Trevinho
[07:42] <seb128> re didrocks
[07:42] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:42] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[07:43] <duflu> 'lo seb128
[07:51] <willcooke> morning all
[07:52] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you?
[07:53] <willcooke> hi seb128, rough night with the kiddies.  They've all got bad coughs and kept waking up
[07:53] <willcooke> so bit sleepy today
[07:53] <willcooke> :)
[07:53] <willcooke> how about you?
[07:54] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[07:54] <willcooke> afternoon duflu
[07:58] <seb128> willcooke, similar here, it's the gf bd this w.e so we drove to France yesterday evening for a few days ... kid slept in the car but woke up when we arrived and was too excited to go back to slept, took us until past midnight to get him in bed and he woke up at 4 5 6
[07:58] <doko> seb128, didrocks: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/342896873/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-arm64.dee_1.2.7+17.10.20170616-0ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[07:59] <doko> in the long term the configure check needs to use pkg-config. restoring the icu-config binary for now
[07:59] <doko> and any idee why the debian package is so much behind?
[07:59] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:00] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[08:01] <Laney> moin
[08:01] <willcooke> goodly morlode Laney
[08:02] <oSoMoN> doko, I’ve got LO 5.4.2 building for bionic with pkg-config in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/lo-test/+packages
[08:03] <doko> oSoMoN: ta! I'm re-adding the icu-config binary for now, so no upload needed at this point
[08:03] <seb128> doko, no idea, maintainer MIA?
[08:03] <willcooke> bionic keeps making me think of android builds.
[08:03] <oSoMoN> doko, is icu-config needed by something else?
[08:03] <oSoMoN> if it's just libreoffice it might be better to wait just a few hours to have the updated package in bionic, no?
[08:04] <oSoMoN> morning all, by the way!
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:06] <Laney> hey didrocks hey willcooke hey seb128 hey doko hey oSoMoN
[08:06] <doko> oSoMoN: yes, by five other packages. now filed bugs in Debian for that
[08:07] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[08:08] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:08]  * Laney is a cough factory too
[08:09] <seb128> hey Laney, happy pseudo-friday :p
[08:09] <Laney> thanks, forgot about that!
[08:09] <Laney> might not be fun if I'm still sick tomorrow though
[08:10] <oSoMoN> doko, ack, I'll still try to get LO updated in bionic today, that'll be one package less to worry about
[08:10]  * didrocks is on the sick club as well. Didn't sleep much, temperature, coughing and sneezing
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, do you have special plans for the w.e?
[08:10] <Laney> go to the bed club
[08:10] <didrocks> I'm quite tempted, working while I'm still awake :p
[08:10] <Laney> seb128: it's the wedding of some friends
[08:10] <Laney> tomorrow we're going to set up the hall with them
[08:10] <Laney> put out all the tables and stuff
[08:11] <seb128> ah
[08:11] <didrocks> argh, hoping indeed you are feeling better for tomorrow then
[08:11] <seb128> good luck with that :p
[08:11] <oSoMoN> didrocks: typical, the littles ones get sick and pass it on to you, only that it hits you twice as hard…
[08:11] <Laney> indeed
[08:11] <didrocks> oSoMoN: exactly!
[08:11] <Laney> or there could be 150 infected guests /o\
[08:11] <didrocks> oSoMoN: well, he's still sick, so it's not the case of "he's better now, and you are sick…"
[08:11] <seb128> #weedingflu
[08:11] <didrocks> @patient0Laney
[08:12] <Laney> heh
[08:12] <Laney> did you watch that belgian show "cordon"?
[08:12] <didrocks> never heard about it
[08:12] <seb128> #wedding even
[08:12] <seb128> #englishishard
[08:12] <didrocks> ah, virus story
[08:12] <Laney> they seal off the city
[08:13] <didrocks> is it good?
[08:13] <Laney> not the cleverest TV show ever, but it's fun to watch
[08:13]  * didrocks adds to the "relax list" then
[08:14] <seb128> Trevinho, do you have any idea about bug #1705124?
[08:15] <Trevinho> seb128: mh... could  be stll related to some wrong desktop matching, so going in xwayland, but need to check
[08:15] <doko> oSoMoN: wait for the new boost ;)
[08:18] <oSoMoN> doko, which version?
[08:18] <doko> oSoMoN: 1.65.1
[08:18] <seb128> Trevinho, could you add to your list of things to look at?
[08:19] <oSoMoN> published 19 seconds ago and still building, that's recent indeed :)
[08:21] <duflu> Yeah, sorry (kind of). I just noticed a few people had been logging bugs against the "wayland" source package for some time
[08:21] <duflu> Most of them shouldn't have been there
[08:22] <Laney> It's possible to have custom bug text for a package
[08:22] <duflu> Laney, what does that mean?
[08:22] <duflu> Oh, a custom description/template?
[08:22] <Laney> It's some text that appears on the page where you're typing the bug description
[08:23] <duflu> Laney, ah, cool
[08:23] <Laney> so it could say "this is (not) what Wayland is, go over there"
[08:23] <duflu> Laney, yeah though you know it wouldn't stop everyone
[08:23] <Laney> Probably not
[08:33] <Trevinho> seb128: ok
[08:33] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[08:35] <Trevinho> seb128: but yeah, it looks like it's not using the desktop file, but just the xicon
[08:36] <Trevinho> ah, no it's wayland... then, something else
[08:39] <seb128> Trevinho, could be only on xwayland client apps?
[09:23] <krashekspress> hello warriors
[09:24] <krashekspress> Ubuntu appindicators are not showing in Xorg (work fine on Wayland) is this by design?
[09:25] <krashekspress> I wouldn't have problem with that if Skype would show with TopIconsPlus extension, but it does not :(
[09:25] <seb128> no, that seems a bug
[09:25] <seb128> and it works for others
[09:25] <seb128> does it bug all the time with any indicator?
[09:25] <seb128> you are using the ubuntu on xorg session right?
[09:26] <seb128> because gnome doesn't have indicators
[09:26] <krashekspress> that section doesn't show at all (missing all indicators from unity Skype, Megasync)
[09:26] <krashekspress> while Slack show in TopIconsPlus section
[09:27] <krashekspress> not sure how to catch log or anything (i think it's not showing in journal)
[09:27] <krashekspress> I can switch extension on/off in tweak, but nothing happens
[10:46] <oSoMoN> seb128, ricotz: I need to do the paperwork for the SRU, but I've successfully tested LO 5.4.2 on artful
[10:46] <seb128> oSoMoN, ah, nice
[10:55] <doko> fyi, packaging new version of libcdio, needed for ICU, and ftbfs anyway in a & b
[11:03] <ogra_> krashekspress, well, do you mean the preinstalled appindicators or topicons-plus ? (note that there is something pre-installed to handle tray icons ... topicons-plus might break it)
[11:03] <krashekspress> preinstalled
[11:03] <krashekspress> I added topicons becuase in Xorg I didn't see inidcators :(
[11:04] <krashekspress> and it didn't help, I just got Slack up there
[11:33] <seb128> doko, thanks
[11:34] <doko> seb128: but please address fontconfig this cycle ...
[11:39] <Laney> going to shop to get some cough stuff, then lunch, back in a bit
[11:39] <seb128> Laney, see you!
[11:40] <seb128> doko, I'm going to have a look to that one yes
[11:57] <seb128> re
[11:57] <seb128> didrocks, bug #1712798 just as a fyi
[11:57]  * seb128 was testing that
[12:17] <didrocks> seb128: adding to my list to look at
[12:18] <didrocks> oh, easy enough
[12:23] <seb128> didrocks, thx
[13:10] <seb128> jbicha, I think reassigning bugs like bug #1726160 to the kernel is a disfavor to do to the user, they just go through complicate kernel testing instructions which are likely to discourage them, go nowhere and not be the issue
[13:50] <jbicha> seb128: yes I don't like kernel bugs but what else could we do?
[13:51] <jbicha> I'm been subscribed to iio-sensor-proxy issues upstream for months and claiming that issues are kernel bugs is what upstream usually does :|
[13:52] <jbicha> I've had a personal laptop for a year that doesn't do auto-rotation correctly
[13:52] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, I've added light-themes to the LO snap (and verified that the themes are actually in the snap) but still getting adwaita, any idea where to look next?
[13:52] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, does the LO snap have gsettings in plugs?
[13:53] <kenvandine> it should need that to detect the theme
[13:53] <jbicha> seb128: I started working on fontconfig already because it's needed for color emoji
[13:53] <kenvandine> although, imo the desktop interface should allow that
[13:54] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, no it doesn't, let me test if adding it fixes the issue
[13:54] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, cool, let me know if that makes the difference
[13:57] <jbicha> any nvidia gamers able to help with preparing a test case for LP: #1725821 ?
[13:58] <jbicha> I wasn't able to notice a difference in 'Ubuntu on Xorg' with my Intel graphics
[14:01] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, yes, that did it!
[14:01] <oSoMoN> thanks
[14:02] <jbicha> didrocks: are you ok with me asking for the mutter/gnome-shell SRUs to be accepted today (their 6th day) so that maybe we can start on the next mutter SRU?
[14:02] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, cool
[14:02] <didrocks> jbicha: sounds good to me
[14:02] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, np
[14:02] <jbicha> didrocks: the next SRU will look like https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ubuntu/temp20171024/+packages assuming I can get the test case worked out for the one fix
[14:03] <popey> jbicha: there's some test cases on the uptream bug it seems. will those suffice?
[14:04] <jbicha> popey: the test case in the original GNOME bug requires Nvidia drivers which I don't have. Are you volunteering? ;)
[14:04] <popey> I would, but how do I test before/after?
[14:05] <popey> What am I comparing 17.10 + 3.26.1 with?
[14:05] <jbicha> before is what's in the archive, after will be the SRU but you can try with my ppa for now
[14:06] <popey> jbicha: can you ping me a link to the ppa, I can certainly try a couple of things.
[14:06] <jbicha> popey: I posted it here right before you replied :)
[14:07] <popey> so you did!
[14:08] <seb128> jbicha, kernel, make sur it's an issue there before reassigning, like try without eh iio package see if tha makes a difference
[14:08] <seb128> jbicha, thanks for fontconfig
[14:08] <jbicha> seb128: without iio-sensor-proxy, GNOME Shell won't do auto-rotation at all so that doesn't seem helpful to ask users to do
[14:10] <seb128> jbicha, well, nothing is telling you that this bug is even about autorotation and not a buggy monitors.xml config or a bug applying stored configs
[14:11] <seb128> so it would be useful to tell it's in that part of the stack
[14:12] <jbicha> seb128: ok, sorry I confused it with similar issues people have
[14:12] <jbicha> it might still be the auto-rotation but it would be good to make sure first
[14:13] <seb128> jbicha, well maybe you are right, but I think we better ask questions before throwing people under the kernel bug reporting process :-)
[14:13] <seb128> jbicha, also is there any way to get debug output out of iio? or to list available captors?
[14:20] <jbicha> there's some info at https://github.com/hadess/iio-sensor-proxy but I don't know how well it works
[14:21] <jbicha> I don't have the laptop with rotation here today
[14:38] <doko> oh man, updating a five year old libcdio from debian ....
[14:41] <seb128> doko, you are taking the experimental version right?
[14:41] <seb128> doko, we didn't take it before because it never made it out of experimental
[14:42] <doko> seb128: right, but the build fix changes the ABI as well, so you have to do a transition anyway
[14:42] <seb128> doko, do you know what was the reason for Debian to not land it in unstable? there might be other problems with the update...
[14:43] <doko> no, just a MIA maintainer
[14:43] <doko> for now everything builds ...
[14:43] <doko> just fixing packaging bugs
[14:43] <jbicha> are you going to nmu it to unstable then?
[14:44] <doko> experimental first
[14:44] <doko> involves a new source package
[14:56] <popey> jbicha: i dont think i can help with that nvidia bug. just booted my desktop and it seems to have a card so old the nvidia driver we use doesn't support it
[14:58] <jbicha> thanks for trying :)
[15:12] <popey> Seems time to upgrade my video card though, on the plus side :)
[15:16] <CrazyLemon> jbicha works for me :)
[15:16] <jbicha> what works?
[15:16] <CrazyLemon> (your mutter from ppa)
[15:17] <jbicha> is there a noticeable improvement? If so, can you fill in the test case section of LP: #1725821 with how you tested it?
[15:17] <CrazyLemon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1725649     <- fixes this bug
[15:18] <CrazyLemon> well there is an improvement yes.. no more menu bar/notification bar/whatever is that called in gnome shell when you alt tab out of game and back into it
[15:23] <jbicha> CrazyLemon: do you notice a performance improvement like mentioned in the original bug report at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788493 ?
[15:28] <CrazyLemon> jbicha didn't have any performance issues at all ..at least i didn't notice any
[15:28] <CrazyLemon> so can't say i have performance improvements
[15:28] <CrazyLemon> i'm just happy i can now alt tab out of the game and back in without issues :)
[16:04]  * oSoMoN EOD
[16:04] <oSoMoN> have a good evening everyone
[16:04] <seb128> he did a did_rocks there!
[16:07] <ogra_> noe need for underscores ... dider is even gone since 1h already :)
[16:09] <seb128> oh, right
[16:30] <a1fa> jamesh: no. not snapped version. downloaded a deb
[16:31] <a1fa> jamesh: wayland session is not affected. only xorg with nvidia driver
[16:31] <a1fa> Issue: chrome is not respecting the set cursor theme i 17.10
[16:56] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers
[16:57] <willcooke> night seb128
[16:57] <kenvandine> you too seb128
[16:59] <Laney> night seb128!
[16:59] <Laney> see you tuesday!
[16:59] <seb128> night
[16:59] <seb128> Laney, have a good long w.e!
[17:00] <Laney> i'm planning a 5 tier human pyramid
[17:02] <genii> It gets tricky after 3 tiers
[17:03] <Laney> maybe we should try one of those catalonian towers
[17:05] <Laney> castell
[17:05] <Laney> on that thought, see you later!
[17:12] <willcooke> night all
[17:47] <jdstrand> jbicha: hi! fyi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1681910/comments/5
[17:48] <jdstrand> jbicha: GNOME is now fix released. I tried it locally and attached the debdiff for your consideration
[17:54] <jbicha> jdstrand: the GNOME bug says there's a possible crash with GNOME Boxes related to that patch?
[17:54] <jdstrand> jbicha: yes but the actual commit looked like it addressed it
[17:55] <jdstrand> (by code inspection)
[17:56] <jbicha> please subscribe ubuntu-sponsors :)
[17:57] <jdstrand> jbicha: but I'm only bringing your attention to the bug for your consideration
[17:58] <jdstrand> jbicha: so, I could upload it myself, but don't have the time for the SRU process. I'd prefer someone who does regular gtk updates make the decision
[17:59] <jdstrand> jbicha: put another way, I'm not standing by this and saying that it is regression-free. I simply saw that upstream fixed it, applied it locally, and did the debdiff if someone wanted to run with it
[18:00] <jdstrand> (so I'd rather not subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, cause that isn't what I would expect them to do)
[18:02] <jbicha> alternatively, you could do a MP against https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3
[18:05] <jbicha> the important part is that we don't forget about it between today and whenever we start working on the next gtk3 SRU
[18:39] <jdstrand> jbicha: I missed your comment. I see you marked it fix committed for bionic. is there something else you would like me to do?
[18:41] <jbicha> jdstrand: I think a MP against https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3 would make it easier for us to see and remember for the next time we do an SRU
[18:42] <jdstrand> ok, I can do that
[18:52] <jdstrand> jbicha: https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/gtk/fix-for-bug775217-and-lp1681910/+merge/332875
[18:52] <jbicha> thanks!
[18:52] <jdstrand> jbicha: thank you for considering it (this bug is *annoying*)
[22:41] <desperado> can someone please tell me how to enable password login in ubuntu 17.1??