| f76 | Ahh, I needed is install nautilus-dropbox as well. It wasn't specified as a dependency though. | 00:00 |
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| rahim | hello | 01:34 |
| rahim | can any body tell me my os get restart after some time? | 01:35 |
| rahim | i am using dvi cable to connect my raspbarry phi to monitor | 01:36 |
| sudeep | After connecting mobile device through USB I am receiving unnecessary popups with a bit sound | 04:06 |
| sudeep | can someone address this issue ? | 04:16 |
| el | unlikely without further information such as what the popups say or some kind of reason the popups are deemed unnecessary etc | 04:27 |
| el | (i don't know i don't use mate, i'm helping you ask a better question) | 04:27 |
| widon | I report a bug, who can fix it | 05:06 |
| widon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1727601 | 05:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1727601 in ubuntu-mate "qt application interface in a mess" [Undecided,New] | 05:06 |
| kl_ | sup fellas | 05:33 |
| widon | who can comfirm it. | 05:33 |
| widon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1727601 | 05:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1727601 in ubuntu-mate "qt application interface in a mess" [Undecided,New] | 05:34 |
| === el is now known as elky | ||
| === elky is now known as el | ||
| mate|24917 | Can't install Ubuntu Mate 16.04 (from downloads page on Ubuntu Mate website) on a brand new Raspberry Pi Model 3 B | 08:20 |
| mate|24917 | I found hundreds of other discussions with people with similar issues (from attempting to format from OS X) | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | Apparently Disk Utility doesn't see / read / write the partitions correctly? | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules-on-pi-3/14952/7 | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/installer-wont-boot-blinking-screen/2926/7 | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | There's hundreds of threads... | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | And everyone points to using ApplePi Baker tool to install img to sdcard (I was using dd, then tried ddrescue, both didn't work) | 08:21 |
| mate|24917 | BUT ApplePi Baker tool is CLOSED source and requires SUDO access | 08:22 |
| mate|24917 | This is a huge security risk for the community | 08:22 |
| mate|24917 | There are NO instructions here for Mac https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ | 08:22 |
| mate|24917 | From my conclusion, it seems that nobody can get Ubuntu Mate working on Pi 3 Model B | 08:23 |
| mate|24917 | Here's another guide which is incorrect | 08:25 |
| mate|24917 | https://fossbytes.com/install-ubuntu-mate-on-raspberry-pi-2-3/ | 08:25 |
| mate|24917 | I'd encourage someone to go in sandbox environment, install Charles Proxy, and monitor ApplePi Baker tool... You may be surprised what you see. | 08:27 |
| mate|24917 | ISSUE: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=190875#p1223576 | 08:34 |
| mate|24917 | dd does not work anymore | 08:34 |
| === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg | ||
| m4t | access to raw block devices normally require root | 08:39 |
| m4t | mate|24917: | 08:39 |
| m4t | if you're that concerned you could boot into a linux live cd to dd the image | 08:39 |
| m4t | https://alternativeto.net/software/rufus/?platform=mac | 08:40 |
| m4t | i think "Etcher" should do what you want, and is open source afaik. it's a bloated electron/javascript app though. | 08:40 |
| aphrek | hey all | 11:04 |
| aphrek | anyone know how to increase the 'hotspot' of window drag handles? | 11:18 |
| aphrek | I really struggle on resizing windows in Mate | 11:18 |
| aphrek | I can use Alt F8 but would like to have the option of manually doing it.. | 11:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | use the top "hotspot" as it's bigger. But TBH I rarely resize windows manually and utilise the auto window snapping. | 11:33 |
| aphrek | good point - it does seem easier using the top. Thanks. Odd that the other hotspots are minimal.. | 11:39 |
| aphrek | is it something I could report as something to improve in future releases? | 11:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I assume it related to DPI or monitor, it's never been a huge issue for me. | 11:40 |
| aphrek | hmm - I'm on a 12" lenovo laptop - will try on an external screen | 11:41 |
| aphrek | thanks | 11:41 |
| naturally | https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/issues/251 | 11:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | np there maybe an option somewhere to make the window border larger? | 11:43 |
| aphrek | I'll do some digging, does feel like I'm missing some option somewhere! | 12:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wasn't thinking option in a GUI, more likely editing some config file but I wouldn't know without looking | 12:09 |
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| manofthesea | Excuse me, I'm having some weird issues with my panel layout and menu items... does anyone know where I can find a list of the packages for the menu and taskbar items, to make sure everything's installed proper? | 15:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | what sort of issues? | 15:40 |
| sudeep | I am receiving an error along with bit sound as soon as I connect my mobile device to system | 15:51 |
| sudeep | Shotwell | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Unable to fetch previews from the camera: | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Could not claim the USB device (-53) | 15:52 |
| sudeep | This is the error | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Shotwell | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Unable to fetch previews from the camera: | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Could not claim the USB device (-53) | 15:52 |
| sudeep | Can someone address this errror? | 15:53 |
| sudeep | Error2:Unable to mount SAMSUNG Android | 15:53 |
| sudeep | Error initializing camera: -53: Could not claim the USB device | 15:54 |
| Wonkers | Hi there | 15:59 |
| Wonkers | I have a question for you all. If i were to install Ubuntu Mate 17.10 - will there be a upgrade path to 18.04LTS (without having to re-install) | 16:00 |
| Wonkers | anyone alive ? | 16:05 |
| Khan89 | i'm alive :O | 16:19 |
| sudeep | can anyone address it? | 16:27 |
| erle- | Why did font rendering become so ugly with 17.10? | 16:31 |
| erle- | 17.10 https://i.imgur.com/AT3Q4th.png | 16:31 |
| erle- | 17.04 https://i.imgur.com/6ON1kLL.png | 16:32 |
| alkisg | Wonkers: 17.10 upgrades to 18.04, yes | 16:32 |
| erle- | Blurry, almost as ugly as Windows fonts. | 16:32 |
| Wonkers | alkisg: thank you | 16:32 |
| erle- | Same font, same size, identical configuration before and after release update | 16:33 |
| Wonkers | So i can get going on the 17.10 and go back to "safety" with a 18.04 LTS once that is released | 16:33 |
| Wonkers | with no re-installs | 16:33 |
| alkisg | Wonkers: indeed | 16:33 |
| erle- | Are you planning to go from 1604 to 1710? | 16:34 |
| erle- | that sounds like more work | 16:34 |
| alkisg | 16.04 to 17.10 isn't possible directly | 16:34 |
| erle- | since 1610 is no longer supported | 16:34 |
| alkisg | It needs to go through 16.10 => 17.04 first, i.e. lots of upgrades... | 16:34 |
| ali1234 | that's what oldreleases is for | 16:34 |
| erle- | if you don't want a particular feature, don't do it | 16:34 |
| Wonkers | Im on 16.04 now - but my system really needs to be reinstalled | 16:34 |
| erle- | if you reinstall, then it's fine | 16:35 |
| Wonkers | And i would like the HUD/Global Menus | 16:35 |
| alkisg | Mate 17.10 has global menus? | 16:35 |
| erle- | after switching to 18.04, you can set "lts only" in the configuration | 16:35 |
| alkisg | Meh, that would suck... | 16:35 |
| Wonkers | erle-: Yeah, the alternative was to wait for 18.04 | 16:35 |
| erle- | alkisg, you CAN have them | 16:35 |
| erle- | its not default | 16:35 |
| Wonkers | But as there will be a easy update path - then why wait | 16:35 |
| ali1234 | i would just wait a couple of weeks then install 18.04 beta | 16:35 |
| alkisg | Better that way :) | 16:36 |
| erle- | Wonkers, I am also doing lots of reinstalls right now, because I want btrfs everywhere :) | 16:36 |
| alkisg | Eh, I don't think btrfs will be stable even on 18.04 :D | 16:36 |
| erle- | the big changes (unity-gnome and xorg-wayland) does not affect mate anyway | 16:36 |
| Wonkers | reading the blog - it says you have to choose Contemporarym Cupertino og Mutiny for HUD/Global to work | 16:37 |
| erle- | Wonkers, no, you don't | 16:37 |
| ali1234 | or make your own custom layout | 16:37 |
| Wonkers | It does not seem to work in a VM (VirtualBox) | 16:37 |
| ali1234 | lots of things dont work in virtualbox | 16:38 |
| Wonkers | But i suspect that its due to VB "stealing the keyatrokes" | 16:38 |
| Wonkers | ali1234: make my own ? | 16:38 |
| ali1234 | this is mate right? | 16:38 |
| Wonkers | yes | 16:38 |
| ali1234 | everything in mate is plugins and applets | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | so you just have to add the global menu plugin to your panel | 16:39 |
| Wonkers | I know - its just the blog post specifically says this | 16:39 |
| Wonkers | okay | 16:39 |
| ali1234 | mate added a simple config tool that lets you pick what your panel is like, and then it sets it up for you | 16:40 |
| ali1234 | because apparently people can't handle configuring things any more | 16:40 |
| lu9dce | hi | 16:42 |
| lu9dce | a question ... when I hit the mouse to a sale or icon I get a little window with information or help ... !! How do I deactivate it? | 16:44 |
| Khan89 | lu9dce_ hello there, could you be a little bit more specific?? | 16:46 |
| Wonkers | Sooo - now i know what i need to do this weekend | 16:46 |
| Wonkers | Coffee....lots of coffee and then install my workstation ;-) | 16:46 |
| lu9dce | https://imgur.com/a/Htiik | 16:48 |
| lu9dce | the square that in this case looks cyan | 16:52 |
| lu9dce | in the link pass an image | 16:53 |
| lu9dce | Sorry, I'm using a translator. I do not speak English. I'm from Argentina. | 16:54 |
| Khan89 | I see it, but.... does this happen when you do right click or left click? or simply when you left the mouse pointer over something? | 16:54 |
| lu9dce | when I move the mouse pointer | 16:55 |
| serak | Ho appena installato la 17.10 MATE. Un vero spettacolo! | 16:55 |
| Khan89 | so not when you click | 16:55 |
| lu9dce | it's like this | 16:55 |
| aphrek | hey all - can anyone point me in the right direction - where as a non developer can I start or learn about how to contribute to the project? | 17:04 |
| nW44b | hi, i got some problems with firefox on ubuntu mate on raspberry pi 3. I asked on #firefox but they told me to ask here : my firefox crashes when i launch it, and i think it's from raspi or ubuntu mate, not from firefox. https://paste.debian.net/plain/992869 | 17:19 |
| nW44b | i found this : https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=190945 but it does not solve the problem | 17:20 |
| aphrek | have you upgraded ubuntu recently? | 17:22 |
| aphrek | @nw4b | 17:22 |
| aphrek | @nw44b | 17:23 |
| nW44b | aphrek: i upgraded and dist-upgraded | 17:24 |
| nW44b | i found this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1726616 | 17:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1726616 in ubuntu-mate "Firefox crashes repeatedly after system update" [Undecided,New] | 17:25 |
| nW44b | i have exactly the same problem, expect that i dist-upgraded as well | 17:26 |
| nW44b | :'( | 17:27 |
| nW44b | aphrek: have you received my answers ? | 17:28 |
| gordonjcp | what happens if you start firefox from a terminal? | 17:29 |
| aphrek | nw44b - yep, thanks | 17:29 |
| nW44b | gordonjcp: https://paste.debian.net/plain/992869 | 17:29 |
| aphrek | could be related? : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1152218 | 17:29 |
| aphrek | suggests a dist-upgrade wasnt complete | 17:30 |
| gordonjcp | yeah | 17:30 |
| gordonjcp | it may have failed to upgrade everything | 17:30 |
| aphrek | yep | 17:30 |
| nW44b | aphrek: maybe ... | 17:30 |
| aphrek | worth checking I'd say.. | 17:31 |
| gordonjcp | if you try to apt-get dist-upgrade does it complain about dpkg being interrupted? | 17:31 |
| nW44b | i did not noticve anything wrong during the upgrade | 17:31 |
| aphrek | bunch of info in /var/log/dist-upgrade | 17:31 |
| aphrek | I've got to dash, good luck - will be on later if I can help at all then | 17:32 |
| nW44b | nothing in /var/log/dist-upgrade, i'm gona check apt folder | 17:32 |
| nW44b | thanks | 17:32 |
| nW44b | it says everything is okay during upgrade and dist-upgrade | 17:33 |
| nW44b | this is my update from today, before firefox's crashes : https://paste.debian.net/plain/992873 | 17:38 |
| alkisg | nW44b: I have the same issue starting firefox on my rpi2, and I used a recent clean installation of mate 16.04 | 17:46 |
| alkisg | I think there's some broken package in the repositories | 17:46 |
| alkisg | But I'm using my rpi as a print server, so I didn't bother to troubleshoot it... | 17:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | afaik only the lts is supported for rpi | 17:47 |
| nW44b | alkisg: there's a bug issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1726616 | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1726616 in ubuntu-mate "Firefox crashes repeatedly after system update" [Undecided,New] | 17:47 |
| nW44b | sixwheeledbeast: i'm using 16.04 | 17:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ok, install firefox esr instead | 17:48 |
| alkisg | sixwheeledbeast: from where? it's not in the ubuntu repositories | 17:49 |
| nW44b | right | 17:49 |
| alkisg | nW44b: does chromium work for you? | 17:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | either get the deb from debian or there's a ppa for esr. | 17:50 |
| nW44b | alkisg: yes | 17:50 |
| nW44b | on firefox website ther is no arm version of firefox esr | 17:51 |
| alkisg | sixwheeledbeast: PPAs don't build for armhf, unless specifically requested from the launchpad team | 17:52 |
| alkisg | https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-esr/+packages only has i386/amd64 packages | 17:52 |
| alkisg | I'm not sure the .deb from debian is installable to mate rpi, wrt dependencies... | 17:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hmm | 17:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It is a common question here, firefox crashing after updating rpi. Using esr or forcing version 52 IIRC is what normally "fixes it". there is a bug on lauchpad somewhere IIRC. | 17:58 |
| nW44b | i really do not know which esr version should i try to install | 18:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | firefox-esr-52.3.0esr-1~deb9u1 from raspian | 18:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | nW44b: this is the thread I was looking for, it's a common question here. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=190945 | 18:04 |
| nW44b | sixwheeledbeast: yes, i already seen it | 18:05 |
| alkisg | it should also be possible to install a previous firefox by just apt install firefox=45.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1 | 18:06 |
| alkisg | As it's in the repositories | 18:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: you could force v52 for example but your using a slightly out of date browser then, whereas esr would have security fixes in the meantime. | 18:08 |
| jrj | Is there a way (keyboard shortcut) to open the menu in the corner ? | 18:12 |
| jrj | Im not talking about ALT-F1, im talking opening the full menu (like mouse pressing the Mate logo/Menu in the corner ? | 18:13 |
| nW44b | i confirm, it works with firefox_45.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/45.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1/+build/9573958 | 18:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | great | 18:15 |
| nW44b | i have to block the firefox updates now ... | 18:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | apt-mark hold firefox | 18:18 |
| nW44b | i used : echo "firefox hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections | 18:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | as long as you know how to remove it later. | 18:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't understand the difference between Alt-F1 and clicking the menu? | 18:20 |
| === cesar_ is now known as Guest55840 | ||
| Guest55840 | cesarcost | 18:57 |
| === Guest55840 is now known as cesarcosta | ||
| jrj | sixwheeledbeast: clicking the menu, enables you to "start typing" to search the menu | 18:57 |
| jrj | ALT-F1 does not | 18:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | typing? are you using the standard MATE layout? | 19:01 |
| jrj | yes | 19:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't understand what your typing in then? | 19:37 |
| === jhjj is now known as _Anna_ | ||
| _Anna_ | Anyone here uses the FreeFileSync program? | 20:16 |
| Dre213 | Hi guys - hope all is well. Anyone free to help me with a shell script for a race condition? | 20:59 |
| santemanuele | Hello. How to one click to open item on Ubuntu Mate Desktop?? | 21:08 |
| === el is now known as elky | ||
| === elky is now known as el | ||
| aphrek | nw44b how did you get on? | 21:40 |
| matt__ | anyone know of a decent place to find reasonably priced Ubuntu laptops in the US? | 21:47 |
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