| drab | the only thing that bugs me about unattended upgrades is when the job is running at the same time I need to run ansible and any apt related task fails because of the lock | 00:24 |
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| drab | that's quite annoying, then I have to wait for it to finish | 00:25 |
| drab | I'll probably remove it once I have ansible running nightly | 00:25 |
| nacc | drab: yeah that can get frustrating :) | 00:49 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 06:06 |
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| dduvnjak | is there any way to simulate a dpkg lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock? something like run an apt-get command that will wait and leave the file locked | 08:43 |
| friendlyguy | morning! i am wondering where to install grub in a software raid 1 | 08:53 |
| friendlyguy | i am currently in the setup wizzard and just got asked where to install grub... and to be honest... i dont know :) | 08:55 |
| friendlyguy | one of the member disks... feels wrong | 08:55 |
| lordievader | Is it hardware raid or software? | 08:59 |
| friendlyguy | software | 08:59 |
| friendlyguy | and giving both devices to the wizzard results in a error | 09:00 |
| lordievader | Then all the members of the raid. | 09:00 |
| lordievader | Yeah, the installer is not very intelligent. You probably want to select one and do the rest manually. | 09:00 |
| friendlyguy | i tried to enter /dev/sda together with /dev/sdb but this results in a fatal error | 09:00 |
| friendlyguy | ah, ok | 09:00 |
| friendlyguy | even choosing a single one doesnt work | 09:02 |
| friendlyguy | and also not via the shell | 09:04 |
| friendlyguy | grub-installer fails | 09:04 |
| friendlyguy | /dev/sda/proc not a directory | 09:04 |
| friendlyguy | ah, i think i need the --root-directory option | 09:05 |
| friendlyguy | not available | 09:07 |
| friendlyguy | grrrreat :) | 09:07 |
| friendlyguy | what to do now? | 09:07 |
| ikonia | what exactly are you trying to do | 09:10 |
| ikonia | as things like /dev/sda/proc make no sense | 09:11 |
| friendlyguy | yup, but this is what grub-installer gives when i run "grub-installer /dev/sda" | 09:11 |
| friendlyguy | same for sdb | 09:11 |
| friendlyguy | it seems like i cant install grub | 09:11 |
| friendlyguy | i am still in the setup wizzard of ubuntu | 09:12 |
| friendlyguy | i tried to install grub to one of the two member disks of a software raid1 | 09:12 |
| friendlyguy | (i also tried to install it to both with "grub-installer /dev/sda /dev/sdb") | 09:13 |
| friendlyguy | but nothing seems to work | 09:13 |
| friendlyguy | also selecting the disks in the ncurses gui (the wizzard is a ncurses gui, right?) does not work | 09:13 |
| friendlyguy | i also read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 09:15 |
| friendlyguy | but the command "grub-install" isnt available during install | 09:15 |
| ikonia | why are you trying to install grub | 09:17 |
| ikonia | what is the actual problem here ? | 09:17 |
| friendlyguy | i want the system to be able to boot? | 09:17 |
| ikonia | why is it not booting | 09:17 |
| friendlyguy | its a fresh system | 09:17 |
| ikonia | right, why is it not booting | 09:17 |
| friendlyguy | i suppose it wont without grub | 09:17 |
| friendlyguy | i am still in the installer, so i didnt actually try | 09:18 |
| ikonia | the installer will install grub | 09:18 |
| friendlyguy | where? | 09:18 |
| friendlyguy | how? | 09:18 |
| ikonia | why are you manually installing grub | 09:18 |
| ikonia | the installer installs grub and configures it as part of the install | 09:18 |
| ikonia | just follow the installer and when it reboots at the end, grub is there | 09:18 |
| friendlyguy | because selecting one of the two member disks of the software raid1 does not work | 09:18 |
| ikonia | define doesn't work | 09:19 |
| friendlyguy | "install the grub bootloader on a hard disk" -> install grub to the mbr? - yes -> device for bootloader installation: - /dev/sda -> force grub installation to the efi removable media path?" - no -> "executing "grub-install /dev/sda" failed". this is a fatal error | 09:21 |
| friendlyguy | sda as well as sdb are member of a software raid1 (mdadm, not some pseudo hardware raid stuff) | 09:22 |
| friendlyguy | (nor real hardware raid) | 09:22 |
| ikonia | are you selecting sda/sdb for the grub install, or is the installer suggesting them | 09:23 |
| friendlyguy | i am selecting | 09:23 |
| ikonia | does it not offer the meta device | 09:23 |
| friendlyguy | nope | 09:23 |
| ikonia | so what does it offer | 09:24 |
| friendlyguy | sda sdb and my flashdrive | 09:24 |
| friendlyguy | (flashdrive==install stick) | 09:25 |
| ikonia | so is sda %100 the hard disk and not been reordered to be the hard disk | 09:25 |
| ikonia | to be the Usb disk sorry | 09:25 |
| friendlyguy | yes it is | 09:25 |
| ikonia | it is the hard disk ? | 09:25 |
| friendlyguy | shows the type (samsung-ssd) next to it | 09:25 |
| ikonia | (just to clarify) | 09:26 |
| ikonia | ok | 09:26 |
| ikonia | you'll need to get the logs of what it thinks is failing | 09:26 |
| ikonia | as the raid device actually started | 09:26 |
| friendlyguy | where can i get them? | 09:26 |
| ikonia | sorry, my typing is shocking | 09:27 |
| ikonia | is the raid device actually started | 09:27 |
| friendlyguy | i guess | 09:27 |
| friendlyguy | system setup went fine | 09:27 |
| friendlyguy | i have lvm on top of the raid, this worked fine as well | 09:27 |
| friendlyguy | maybe my first try with /dev/sda as well as /dev/sdb fucked it up | 09:28 |
| ikonia | so can you see the meta device running currentyly | 09:28 |
| ikonia | friendlyguy: please don';t swear, there is no need for it | 09:29 |
| ikonia | a failed grub install will not break anything | 09:29 |
| ikonia | so I doubt that has caused you a problem | 09:29 |
| friendlyguy | okay | 09:29 |
| friendlyguy | how can i verify if its running correctly? | 09:29 |
| ikonia | look at the status of the meta devices | 09:29 |
| friendlyguy | /proc/mdstat shows md0 as active with sda as well as sdb | 09:31 |
| friendlyguy | ah, sda1 and sdb1 | 09:32 |
| ikonia | ok, so thats good, so if you apply to md0 it should filter to sda and sdb | 09:32 |
| ikonia | however if it's not offering you that option thats a problem | 09:32 |
| ikonia | manually applying to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb should work fine too | 09:32 |
| friendlyguy | like grub-installer /dev/md0? | 09:32 |
| ikonia | friendlyguy: well no, you shouldn't really do that, the installer should offer it | 09:33 |
| friendlyguy | ok, and if it doenst? :) | 09:33 |
| friendlyguy | applying to sda and sdb doenst work either | 09:33 |
| ikonia | thats why I said you need to understand why the application to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb is not working | 09:33 |
| ikonia | what's causing that problem | 09:33 |
| friendlyguy | if i run grub-installer /dev/sda (or sdb) it fives /dev/sda/proc not a directory | 09:34 |
| ikonia | you shouldn't be manually running that | 09:34 |
| friendlyguy | okay, what should i do | 09:35 |
| ikonia | I'd be keen to see why the autoamted install to /dev/sda is failing | 09:35 |
| friendlyguy | where can i find the corresponding log? | 09:35 |
| ikonia | there should be logs in the sessions /var/log directory | 09:35 |
| ikonia | is /proc mounted in your installer environment | 09:36 |
| friendlyguy | it is | 09:38 |
| friendlyguy | ok, from syslog | 09:39 |
| friendlyguy | there are several entries for grub-installer | 09:40 |
| friendlyguy | file descriptor [3,4,5,6] leaked on vgs invocation | 09:40 |
| friendlyguy | also /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: no such file or directory | 09:41 |
| ikonia | the lvm stuff shouldn't matter | 09:43 |
| friendlyguy | ah, found something about gpt | 09:44 |
| lordievader | What did you find? | 09:45 |
| friendlyguy | "this | 09:46 |
| friendlyguy | this gpt partition label contains no bios boot partition, embedding wont be possible | 09:47 |
| lordievader | Ah, yes. That is true. Did you partition the disks yourself? | 09:47 |
| friendlyguy | error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for raid and lvm install | 09:47 |
| friendlyguy | yes | 09:47 |
| lordievader | And you didn't create the bios boot partition? | 09:48 |
| friendlyguy | nope | 09:48 |
| lordievader | That is why the grub install fails. | 09:48 |
| friendlyguy | i didnt aim to use uefi | 09:48 |
| friendlyguy | i was planning on legacy boot | 09:48 |
| lordievader | Yes, uefi requires an esp partition. Bios on gpt requires a partition to be marked as bios_boot. | 09:49 |
| friendlyguy | so i MUST use uefi? | 09:49 |
| friendlyguy | ... well then, start over again | 09:50 |
| lordievader | No, read what I am saying. | 09:51 |
| lordievader | You can use bios with gpt, but you need to make an additional boot partition and give it the bios_boot flag. | 09:51 |
| friendlyguy | hi there, back again | 10:08 |
| friendlyguy | my desktop just died | 10:08 |
| friendlyguy | :( | 10:08 |
| friendlyguy | its one of those days... | 10:09 |
| friendlyguy | about gpt... why is gpt used anyway? | 10:09 |
| friendlyguy | i have 2 120gb ssds in this server | 10:09 |
| friendlyguy | and i dont want to use uefi boot | 10:10 |
| friendlyguy | however, it seems like i cant get a mbr partition table from the partmanager | 10:10 |
| lordievader | Gpt is newer and for uefi mandatory. | 10:51 |
| lordievader | It also has two backups wheras mbr only has one. | 10:51 |
| friendlyguy | ok, i was planning on a raid1 with lvm on top and 2 lvs: root and swap | 10:54 |
| friendlyguy | what i didnt get: can i create the additional partition within lvm or does it have to be on a "lower" level? | 10:55 |
| lordievader | Lvm creates block devices essentially, what you do with them is up to you. | 10:56 |
| friendlyguy | yeah, but about grub and the "missing" partition | 10:56 |
| lordievader | Oh, in your partition table you want something like: 1. 200Mb /boot. 2. x Gb mdraid | 10:58 |
| friendlyguy | :) thanks | 10:58 |
| friendlyguy | okay, now i have 2 disks(sda and sdb) and i created 1 partition on each of those, its 200mb /boot and both have a boot flag and are formatted fat32 | 11:02 |
| friendlyguy | i then created the raid1 with the free space on sda and sdb | 11:03 |
| friendlyguy | is that how it should be? | 11:03 |
| albech | anyone know where to place own filters for fail2ban, so they are not overwritten. | 11:03 |
| friendlyguy | (just to verify) | 11:03 |
| lordievader | friendlyguy: Oh, wait I'm making an error. | 11:06 |
| lordievader | You want 1. bios_grub 2mb, 2. /boot and 3. mdraid. | 11:06 |
| friendlyguy | i am wondering about /boot | 11:10 |
| friendlyguy | shouldnt that be on raid? | 11:10 |
| friendlyguy | to be honest, the complete layout is unclear to me | 11:19 |
| friendlyguy | can someone show me some docu how i have to partition that? | 11:19 |
| friendlyguy | because having boot NOT on raid1 will result in one of the member disks being unable to boot | 11:19 |
| friendlyguy | i am pretty sure on that | 11:20 |
| friendlyguy | in the meantime ill try to have those bios_grub partitions as well as the raid, but no seperate boot# | 11:21 |
| friendlyguy | try and error ftw | 11:21 |
| freakyy | what's the best tol to make backups? | 12:21 |
| freakyy | *tool | 12:21 |
| andol | It all depends. | 12:22 |
| freakyy | i own a root server, and i want to backup onto my 1TB Backupspace server ;D | 12:23 |
| andol | Do you want to push or pull? Which of the servers do you trust more? How much data do you have which needs to be backed up? | 12:26 |
| freakyy | i have around 300GB per full backup. i need space for 2 i think? backups should be encrypted. i think i want to push. the backup server has no pull capabilities ;D | 12:27 |
| andol | http://duplicity.nongnu.org/ might not be a bad choice then. | 12:28 |
| freakyy | andol ok so can i just use duply? :D | 12:28 |
| andol | No idea, I have never used it. | 12:28 |
| freakyy | ok thanks :) | 12:31 |
| friendlyguy | erm... i just installed mariadb-server, but i didnt get asked for a root-pw... is this "normal"? | 12:38 |
| rbasak | friendlyguy: yes Unix authentication is used by default now for localhost connections | 12:44 |
| friendlyguy | ah, thanks :) | 12:44 |
| friendlyguy | i kept wondering about that | 12:45 |
| ZenThief | I'm learning Ansible and remotely created a non-root user on ubuntu. I see examples deleting root password afterwards. Why would I want to do this? | 14:56 |
| ZenThief | Just a question for anyone here. I'm new to IRC. Can you see my messages? Please confirm. | 15:04 |
| nacc | ZenThief: yes | 15:04 |
| nacc | ZenThief: there is a test channel for such things | 15:05 |
| ZenThief | Thanks nacc, I'll search for it. | 15:05 |
| rbasak | nacc: sorry, my marking of Triaged for bug 1727590 was perhaps premature. | 15:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1727590 in usd-importer "'git ubuntu build-source -v --sign --for-merge' uses Debian instead of Ubuntu containers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727590 | 15:24 |
| shadoxx | Is this a good question to ask a question about an MaaS issue I'm currently having? | 16:32 |
| shadoxx | err, good place. | 16:32 |
| dpb1 | there is a #maas channel, I think | 16:33 |
| shadoxx | So there is. Thanks dpb1 ! | 16:42 |
| adac | my freshly installed ubuntu from iso is stuck with /dev/sda1 clean message | 17:26 |
| adac | installed it from iso onto KVM machine | 17:26 |
| adac | any ideas what might cause that? | 17:27 |
| shadoxx | adac: trying hitting enter on the kvm keyboard a bunch of times | 17:34 |
| adac | shadoxx, tried that, does not help :/ | 17:42 |
| TJ- | adac: fo you mean KVM as in Keyboard/Video/Mouse or as in Kernel Virtual Machine? | 17:42 |
| shadoxx | Well, I'm all out of ideas. I'm battling a similiar issue. Pretty sure it's interrupt related, since generated interuppts causes it to contiue | 17:43 |
| shadoxx | Figured it's probably getting hung up on the entropy generator | 17:43 |
| shadoxx | but that's just a guess | 17:43 |
| adac | TJ-, shadoxx I'm using virt-manager and there i can enter the console | 17:43 |
| adac | But enter does not help :/ | 17:44 |
| TJ- | Does booting with "debug" or "systemd_loglevel=debug" help with more info? | 17:44 |
| TJ- | adac: how about the "Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F7 combinations to switch ttys ? | 17:44 |
| adac | TJ-, hmm that combination does put my host into that mode not the KVM machine unfortunately | 18:01 |
| adac | :/ | 18:01 |
| kklimonda | are there statistics on how much space does each release take, split by components? | 18:07 |
| adac | TJ-, I can send a key via menu in the virt-manager | 18:09 |
| adac | now I can login | 18:09 |
| dpb1 | kklimonda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors | 18:10 |
| dpb1 | kklimonda: that's the closest I know of | 18:10 |
| kklimonda | dpb1: well, the 1.1TB is probably right, but that's whole archive - the 4.4GB for xenial sounds like size of CD/DVDs and not archive - e.g. xenial universe is >50GB for amd64 | 18:13 |
| dpb1 | kklimonda: also, look at this and all the links off. | 18:15 |
| dpb1 | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/08/31/running-an-ubuntu-mirror-with-juju/ | 18:15 |
| dpb1 | I'm not sure you'll get specifically the per-component break down you are interested, but you can probably get close. | 18:16 |
| kklimonda | thanks, I'll take a look | 18:20 |
| nacc | rbasak: do we wannt to resolve upload tags vs. hash in dsc and how both relate to the importer before 1.0? | 20:35 |
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| xnox | rbasak, i'm not sure if you are the right person to ping, the new git-ubuntu stuff, could it please setup by default .dput.cf to upload things to "ppa" and launchpad over sftp? | 23:30 |
| nacc | xnox: i'll file htat as a bug | 23:30 |
| xnox | meaning method=sftp login=lp_account_id | 23:30 |
| nacc | xnox: as of right now, we don't wrap dput | 23:30 |
| xnox | because e.g. even slangasek doesn't have it =/ | 23:30 |
| nacc | xnox: it's on the future roadmap, though | 23:30 |
| nacc | :) | 23:30 |
| xnox | nacc, ack, will you one the bug, or shall i? and where is the bug tracker? | 23:30 |
| nacc | xnox: filinng it now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+filebug | 23:31 |
| xnox | tah | 23:31 |
| nacc | xnox: LP: #1727883 | 23:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1727883 in usd-importer "dput wrapping should use specific options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727883 | 23:31 |
| nacc | xnox: feel free to flesh it out more, but i think i got the gist | 23:34 |
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