[02:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:40]  * Bashing-om present lotuspsychje :)
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[02:41] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: You early ?
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah rainy outside waked me up
[02:44] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Opposite . From my days of subsistent living .. rainy morning --- I could go back to sleep :)
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> well when i get awake, cant sleep anymore
[02:46] <Sveta> i woke up at 5am today for some reason and mom did too, we both couldn't sleep and i do not know why
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> hey Sveta
[02:47] <Sveta> hi
[02:47] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Generally, same ..once awakened I am awake .. but a rainy morning .. My mind is at ease to sleep it off .
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: yeah escpecially when cold outside, warm in bed :p
[02:55] <immu> hi all
[02:55] <immu> afk
[06:28] <jink> O HAI
[06:37] <ducasse> good morning
[06:38] <Bashing-om> WB ducasse : You have not missed much on my watch .
[06:39] <ducasse> hi Bashing-om - good to hear, i'm hoping it will stay quiet for a while yet, give me time to get ready :)
[06:45] <Bashing-om> ducasse: The good thing about responding to support . No one knows when you are at the terminal . On "your" time :)
[06:49] <ducasse> Bashing-om: the good thing about irc is that you can just call it quits when you're fed up :)
[06:55] <Bashing-om> ducasse: No pressure .. just our peers to be accountable to :)
[07:33] <immu> ducasse, Bashing-om
[07:33] <Bashing-om> immu: -
[07:34] <immu> hi all
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> bbl work, have a nice1 guys
[07:53] <Bashing-om> Nite nite all
[07:56] <immu> ok
[11:21] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[12:35] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj :)
[12:36] <BluesKaj> the same ol' argument in ##linux again..difernce between distros , whata waste of energy
[12:37] <daftykins> indeed, as long as it's not Mint it's almost all good :D
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins
[12:38] <daftykins> greetings! what's new?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> running 18.04 after the chainloader was loaded into the repos
[12:39] <daftykins> ah ha
[12:39] <BluesKaj> only a few packages so far
[12:40] <daftykins> :> early days
[12:41] <daftykins> at last a real release is to be worked on, LTS!
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 17.10 is still buggy in plasmashell 5.11.2 and it continues in 18,04
[12:42] <BluesKaj> yup, kde'plasma launcher is frozen again
[12:43] <BluesKaj> gotta reboot
[12:49] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma has a quicklanch widget that resides in the panel, which is actually very handy when it works, but when systems settings is launched from it and closed, that results in a frozen desktop.
[12:51] <BluesKaj> using favs in the kmenu is almost as handy
[13:39] <ducasse> BluesKaj: somehow i'm not surprised it was crazytux that brought up the distro thing again - i can't understand why they don't just ban him. he's banned everywhere else. :)
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hehe, i think he's become a "pet" for someof  the guys there, they love giving him advice on various distros ....the rules in the ##linux chat are pquite lax anyway so it just continues
[13:44] <BluesKaj> quite
[13:44] <BluesKaj> btw , Hi ducasse :-)
[13:47] <ducasse> it's just silly - "hi, is distro x more lightweight and user friendly than distro y?" - it never ends :)
[13:47] <ducasse> and hi BluesKaj :)
[13:48] <BluesKaj> also some suggest he try certain distros just to get rid of him
[13:48] <BluesKaj> seems to have worked today at least
[13:49] <ducasse> that's a good tactic :)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> yup :-)
[13:50] <BluesKaj> apparently it's opensuse today
[13:53] <ducasse> i almost feel sorry for him, i hate suse...
[13:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, wasn't my cuppa tea either
[13:56] <BluesKaj> I tried arch agian for a few days , but it's networking files are really scaterred about for example ...didn't do much for me either
[13:57] <ducasse> i'm so used to ubuntu now i probably won't switch completely in quite a while, plus if software is available for linux you can be certain it is available for ubuntu. and the kvm/libvirt packages are stable and good. but i run arch on my desktop.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> yeah, kubuntu has been my main OS for 12 yrs,  probly be my fav for a long time to come
[14:01] <BluesKaj> why do you run arch
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:02] <daftykins> ducasse must have some fondness left for breakage ;D
[14:03] <BluesKaj> anyway gotta run ome errands...BBL
[14:03] <ducasse> because on that particular machine i always want the absolutely latest version of a number of packages as soon as possible, and i don't want the constant hassle of building packages myself. plus i think arch is in many ways nice to deal with - i can handle the breakage :)
[14:32] <akik> BluesKaj: i haven't noticed that the icons i add to plasma panel would hang up system settings
[14:32] <akik> BluesKaj: but i don't use any separate widget, just add programs to the panel
[15:31] <BluesKaj> akik, I think the bug lies in the quicklaumch wdget, not the panel icon launcher
[15:31] <BluesKaj> quicklaunch even
[15:32] <akik> i don't require any special features from it so it's fine for me
[15:32] <BluesKaj> and only it's shortcut to system settings
[15:33] <BluesKaj> well. I can use favs, it's almost as handy
[16:30] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: this is the issue and fix: https://cgit.kde.org/systemsettings.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.11&id=1490607667954f9d5bf2b9ec6d466b89b9b582c4
[16:31] <acheronuk> + it only affects 5.11.2 without that patch
[16:44] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, I haven't use git vey often so I'm not familiar with how the patch should be applied
[16:45] <BluesKaj> err = I haven't used git very often
[16:54] <BluesKaj> well, jam time ..... laterz all
[18:18] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[18:20] <Bashing-om> Getting ready - do this again :)