[01:22] <thejasonballinge> hey!
[06:17] <jrj> sixwheeledbeast: When i click the menu, the cursor is on the search field. I can then start typing e.g. "Fire" and it automatically finds firefox, i can press enter to launch it
[06:18] <jrj> Fast keyboard navigation of menu's
[06:18] <alkisg> jrj: in the normal menu there's no search field
[06:18] <alkisg> Paste a screenshot, maybe you're using the advanced menu
[06:18] <jrj> alkisg: when i press ALT-F1 there is no search
[06:19] <jrj> When i click the menu button with the mouse there is
[06:19] <alkisg> We first need to see which menu you're using
[06:19] <alkisg> So open it normally with the mouse and paste a screenshot
[06:19] <jrj> Okay - will make a screenshot when i get back home
[06:19] <alkisg> ok
[06:19] <jrj> It a stock Mate 17.10 installation
[06:20] <jrj> Tried the traditional, cupertino and one more
[06:20] <jrj> They all have the option when i open by mouse-clicking the button in the corner. But not when pressing ALT+F1
[06:20] <jrj> But ill du the screenshot - it will make explaining easier - thank you
[06:22] <alkisg> The default 17.10 mate installation has 2 panels, one on top, one on bottop
[06:22] <alkisg> The top panel has the menu: applications, places and system
[06:22] <alkisg> You're probably talking about the advanced menu that you've enabled using mate-tweak
[06:25] <alkisg> Example screenshot: https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Screenshots/04_DESKTOP.png
[06:25] <alkisg> That "Applications" menu there has no search entry
[06:25] <alkisg> And this is the advanced menu, that you probably enabled from mate-tweak: https://ubuntu-mate.community/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d00b2476919ad825965c32f34f14bd73fa4dc262.png
[06:50] <jrj> alkisg: That last screenshot is what im talking about
[06:51] <jrj> What im searching for is a way to, via the keyboard to open that menu
[06:51] <jrj> Today i do this by mouse-click on the "Menu" at the bottom left hand side
[06:52] <jrj> Then i can start typing e.g. "Bra" and it would highlight Brasero, and then hitting Enter would launch Brasero
[06:52] <jrj> This to me is the fastest way to launch program
[06:52] <jrj> s
[06:55] <jrj> alkisg: but pressing the "Menu" button is not the same as ALT+F1
[06:56] <jrj> And i cant find the shortcut for opening the Menu on you last screenshot
[06:56] <alkisg> jrj: yeah, you need to specify that you're using the advanced menu because it's not the default
[06:56] <alkisg> I'm not using it so I don't know how to invoke it
[06:57] <jrj> alkisg: Thanks for the specification
[07:06] <jrj> alkisg: Google that definately is the right direction
[07:06] <alkisg> :)
[07:06] <jrj> Will have to try it when i get home
[07:07] <jrj> Only have a Win7 box here at work - which actually have same behaviour (same way i launch apps here)
[07:07] <alkisg> I'm using alt+f2
[07:07] <alkisg> (the run dialog)
[07:08] <jrj> I tried that - and it does find the things. But you then have to use TAB 2-3 time to get the app highlighted before you can press ENTER
[07:09] <alkisg> alt+f2, aud, tab, selects audacity, enter
[07:09] <alkisg> But yeah I can see your use case
[07:09] <alkisg> If a hotkey doesn't exist already, it's worth it to file a bug report
[07:09] <jrj> okay - will have to check it again tonight
[07:11] <jrj> alkisg: "the googles" says alot of people in the past have had issues with SuperKey (on its own works), but when they do SuperKey+<Something> the original standaline SuperKey stops working
[07:11] <jrj> But that have been solved according to the searches
[07:12] <jrj> But yeah, I will look into the Adv.Menu tonight as it seems to be what i want to have. And maybe slamming the SuperKey will just work for me
[07:12] <jrj> ...then at least it will have a useful purpose :)
[07:14] <jrj> Just been laughing to my self - if this is the extend of the "problems" i have with then new release......Then im a happy Camper
[07:14] <jrj> Everything else just works as i expected - going through my extensive list of things to test, including my workflows
[07:32] <pats> so i need some help fixing this computer
[07:33] <pats> it does not want to do the updates
[07:33] <diogenes_> what a disobedient computer :) you have to train it
[07:34] <pats> i know and linux is hard...
[07:34] <diogenes_> pats, how long you been using linux for?
[07:34] <pats> i have so much issues trying to figure out linux
[07:34] <diogenes_> and how do you update it?
[07:35] <pats> about 2 years..
[07:35] <pats> i try the sudo i try the apps..
[07:35] <pats> i try just about everything and i still cant quite get it figured out
[07:36] <diogenes_> ok what's the error when you run: sudo apt update
[07:37] <pats> im trying again so i can let you know... but it tells me its not giving me permission or something like that
[07:38] <diogenes_> umm tell him that he is not right :)
[07:38] <pats> read error -read (5: input/output error)
[07:39] <pats> the package cache fileiscorrupted
[07:39] <diogenes_> pats, do the following: sudo apt update in the terminal
[07:39] <diogenes_> after that
[07:39] <diogenes_> you copy all that you see in the terminal and paste it to some pastebin
[07:39] <diogenes_> then share the link here
[07:40] <pats> Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-security InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/welcome/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Hit:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-backports InRelease
[07:40] <pats> Reading package lists... Error!
[07:40] <pats> E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error)
[07:40] <pats> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:40] <pats> E: The package cache file is corrupted
[07:41] <pats> W: chmod 0700 of directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial failed - SetupAPTPartialDirectory (1: Operation not permitted)
[07:41] <pats> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[07:41] <pats> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:41] <pats> W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied)
[07:41] <pats> W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied)
[07:41] <diogenes_> pats, :( don't paste here
[07:41] <diogenes_> let me teach you so you don't do this anymore because you could get banned
[07:42] <diogenes_> pats, all that you pasted in here you have to paste here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:42] <diogenes_> after you paste in there click the button paste
[07:42] <jrj> error = "package cache fileiscorrupted"
[07:43] <jrj> Literaly first hit on Google helps you out
[07:43] <diogenes_> after that you copy the link from the address bar
[07:43] <diogenes_> and paste only the link ehre
[07:50] <pats> says it wont open lock file... wont let me repair
[07:50] <pats> permission denied
[07:50] <diogenes_> pats, I'm waiting for you to share the link here
[07:51] <pats> im confused... is that supposed to be in personal message or here???
[07:52] <diogenes_> pats, first go to this site
[07:52] <diogenes_> tell ,me when you did
[07:53] <pats> i think i am getting it...
[07:53] <diogenes_> ok
[07:53] <pats> something about thunderbird... and its at 4% progress
[07:54] <pats> dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: unexpected end of input
[07:55] <diogenes_> pats, go open this https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:23] <Parthd> HI
[12:23] <Parthd> I am new here now installing ubuntu-mate 17.10 any suggestions
[12:25] <alkisg> Suggestions on how to install? There should be a tutorial in the site where you downloaded it ...
[12:52] <gordonjcp> alkisg: suggestions on what to do while it's installing?
[12:53] <gordonjcp> alkisg: they've left or I'd tell them to wait until the very end of the installer, right after the closing credits, for the surprise teaser for 18.04
[13:08] <alkisg> Haha
[13:13] <jrj> Not wanting to start a flamewar (i know the even just saying that....)
[13:14] <jrj> Anyhow - Looking for good editor for coding (mostly python/Perl) with syntax highlighting
[13:14] <jrj> I want something light, so ATOM and Sublime might be a bit to overthetop
[13:15] <jrj> Just want simple clean interface, with a dark-theme (light txt on darker background) - someting like the VS in dark mode
[13:16] <jrj> And before anyone suggest "VS Core/Code" - no thank you, i dont like spying
[13:16] <jrj> I do know that the default editon in Ubuntu(Mate) does have both a dark theme and syntax highlight - just wanted to have som recommendations for alternatives....if you got any
[13:25] <diogenes_> jrj, maybe gedit + lots of very useful plugins
[13:26] <jrj> diogenes_: isnt gedit what is default txt editor in Ubuntu ?
[13:27] <diogenes_> jrj, no clue, but even if so, I don't think they have installed all the themes and plugins for it, without those, it's just a text editor, with the plugins, it's a cool code editor
[13:27] <jrj> diogenes_: true
[13:27] <jrj> I might look into it
[13:27] <diogenes_> it has syntax highlighter, bracket completion, dark themes and lot more
[13:28] <jrj> Ahh the default TXT editor == Pluma
[13:29] <diogenes_> jrj, btw I'm using it with the /* cobalt */ theme and it's enjoyable to write code in it
[13:30] <jrj> diogenes_: noted - will be testing it later tonight
[13:30] <diogenes_> ok
[18:37] <mate|70374> just installed 17.10 and only have 2 blank panels bottom/top and nothing else. Anyone else have this problem
[19:49] <Khan89> why is there not an updated version of Eclipse in the software store?? stability issues?