[01:22] hey! [06:17] sixwheeledbeast: When i click the menu, the cursor is on the search field. I can then start typing e.g. "Fire" and it automatically finds firefox, i can press enter to launch it [06:18] Fast keyboard navigation of menu's [06:18] jrj: in the normal menu there's no search field [06:18] Paste a screenshot, maybe you're using the advanced menu [06:18] alkisg: when i press ALT-F1 there is no search [06:19] When i click the menu button with the mouse there is [06:19] We first need to see which menu you're using [06:19] So open it normally with the mouse and paste a screenshot [06:19] Okay - will make a screenshot when i get back home [06:19] ok [06:19] It a stock Mate 17.10 installation [06:20] Tried the traditional, cupertino and one more [06:20] They all have the option when i open by mouse-clicking the button in the corner. But not when pressing ALT+F1 [06:20] But ill du the screenshot - it will make explaining easier - thank you [06:22] The default 17.10 mate installation has 2 panels, one on top, one on bottop [06:22] The top panel has the menu: applications, places and system [06:22] You're probably talking about the advanced menu that you've enabled using mate-tweak [06:25] Example screenshot: https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Screenshots/04_DESKTOP.png [06:25] That "Applications" menu there has no search entry [06:25] And this is the advanced menu, that you probably enabled from mate-tweak: https://ubuntu-mate.community/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d00b2476919ad825965c32f34f14bd73fa4dc262.png [06:50] alkisg: That last screenshot is what im talking about [06:51] What im searching for is a way to, via the keyboard to open that menu [06:51] Today i do this by mouse-click on the "Menu" at the bottom left hand side [06:52] Then i can start typing e.g. "Bra" and it would highlight Brasero, and then hitting Enter would launch Brasero [06:52] This to me is the fastest way to launch program [06:52] s [06:55] alkisg: but pressing the "Menu" button is not the same as ALT+F1 [06:56] And i cant find the shortcut for opening the Menu on you last screenshot [06:56] jrj: yeah, you need to specify that you're using the advanced menu because it's not the default [06:56] I'm not using it so I don't know how to invoke it [06:57] alkisg: Thanks for the specification [07:06] alkisg: Google that definately is the right direction [07:06] :) [07:06] Will have to try it when i get home [07:07] Only have a Win7 box here at work - which actually have same behaviour (same way i launch apps here) [07:07] I'm using alt+f2 [07:07] (the run dialog) [07:08] I tried that - and it does find the things. But you then have to use TAB 2-3 time to get the app highlighted before you can press ENTER [07:09] alt+f2, aud, tab, selects audacity, enter [07:09] But yeah I can see your use case [07:09] If a hotkey doesn't exist already, it's worth it to file a bug report [07:09] okay - will have to check it again tonight [07:11] alkisg: "the googles" says alot of people in the past have had issues with SuperKey (on its own works), but when they do SuperKey+ the original standaline SuperKey stops working [07:11] But that have been solved according to the searches [07:12] But yeah, I will look into the Adv.Menu tonight as it seems to be what i want to have. And maybe slamming the SuperKey will just work for me [07:12] ...then at least it will have a useful purpose :) [07:14] Just been laughing to my self - if this is the extend of the "problems" i have with then new release......Then im a happy Camper [07:14] Everything else just works as i expected - going through my extensive list of things to test, including my workflows [07:32] so i need some help fixing this computer [07:33] it does not want to do the updates [07:33] what a disobedient computer :) you have to train it [07:34] i know and linux is hard... [07:34] pats, how long you been using linux for? [07:34] i have so much issues trying to figure out linux [07:34] and how do you update it? [07:35] about 2 years.. [07:35] i try the sudo i try the apps.. [07:35] i try just about everything and i still cant quite get it figured out [07:36] ok what's the error when you run: sudo apt update [07:37] im trying again so i can let you know... but it tells me its not giving me permission or something like that [07:38] umm tell him that he is not right :) [07:38] read error -read (5: input/output error) [07:39] the package cache fileiscorrupted [07:39] pats, do the following: sudo apt update in the terminal [07:39] after that [07:39] you copy all that you see in the terminal and paste it to some pastebin [07:39] then share the link here [07:40] Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-security InRelease [07:40] Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease [07:40] Hit:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/welcome/ubuntu yakkety InRelease [07:40] Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty InRelease [07:40] Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates InRelease [07:40] Hit:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-backports InRelease [07:40] Reading package lists... Error! [07:40] E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) [07:40] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [07:40] E: The package cache file is corrupted [07:41] W: chmod 0700 of directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial failed - SetupAPTPartialDirectory (1: Operation not permitted) [07:41] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) [07:41] E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ [07:41] W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) [07:41] W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) [07:41] pats, :( don't paste here [07:41] let me teach you so you don't do this anymore because you could get banned [07:42] pats, all that you pasted in here you have to paste here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [07:42] after you paste in there click the button paste [07:42] error = "package cache fileiscorrupted" [07:43] Literaly first hit on Google helps you out [07:43] after that you copy the link from the address bar [07:43] and paste only the link ehre [07:50] says it wont open lock file... wont let me repair [07:50] permission denied [07:50] pats, I'm waiting for you to share the link here [07:51] im confused... is that supposed to be in personal message or here??? [07:52] pats, first go to this site [07:52] tell ,me when you did [07:53] i think i am getting it... [07:53] ok [07:53] something about thunderbird... and its at 4% progress [07:54] dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: unexpected end of input [07:55] pats, go open this https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [12:23] HI [12:23] I am new here now installing ubuntu-mate 17.10 any suggestions [12:25] Suggestions on how to install? There should be a tutorial in the site where you downloaded it ... [12:52] alkisg: suggestions on what to do while it's installing? [12:53] alkisg: they've left or I'd tell them to wait until the very end of the installer, right after the closing credits, for the surprise teaser for 18.04 [13:08] Haha [13:13] Not wanting to start a flamewar (i know the even just saying that....) [13:14] Anyhow - Looking for good editor for coding (mostly python/Perl) with syntax highlighting [13:14] I want something light, so ATOM and Sublime might be a bit to overthetop [13:15] Just want simple clean interface, with a dark-theme (light txt on darker background) - someting like the VS in dark mode [13:16] And before anyone suggest "VS Core/Code" - no thank you, i dont like spying [13:16] I do know that the default editon in Ubuntu(Mate) does have both a dark theme and syntax highlight - just wanted to have som recommendations for alternatives....if you got any [13:25] jrj, maybe gedit + lots of very useful plugins [13:26] diogenes_: isnt gedit what is default txt editor in Ubuntu ? [13:27] jrj, no clue, but even if so, I don't think they have installed all the themes and plugins for it, without those, it's just a text editor, with the plugins, it's a cool code editor [13:27] diogenes_: true [13:27] I might look into it [13:27] it has syntax highlighter, bracket completion, dark themes and lot more [13:28] Ahh the default TXT editor == Pluma [13:29] jrj, btw I'm using it with the /* cobalt */ theme and it's enjoyable to write code in it [13:30] diogenes_: noted - will be testing it later tonight [13:30] ok === hal9000 is now known as Guest28831 [18:37] just installed 17.10 and only have 2 blank panels bottom/top and nothing else. Anyone else have this problem [19:49] why is there not an updated version of Eclipse in the software store?? stability issues?