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NginUSWhat path/file do I need to edit to remove an invisible KDE Widget from my desktop?00:10
NginUSThe 'Add Widgets" dialog says I haver 1 more than I do00:11
Dodekhey, I want to print an image, but making sure that the print has the exact size I want. e.g. I want to specify that 100 pixels of image correspond to 1 inch of print. how do I do that?00:28
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Unte36HEllo All. How can I set qBittorrent as default to open all torrent links from all applications? chrome, mozilla, etc???00:32
naccDodek: are't you just describign PPI?00:34
kenrinfind a torrent,  right click properties > open with00:34
Dodeknacc: probably, yes.00:34
naccDodek: sounds like you want to specify 100 PPI, I think that depends on the applicationn used and if your printer can do it00:35
naccDodek: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-scale-print.html e.g.00:35
naccDodek: i thinkn your mistake might be thinking that pixels are a unit of size00:36
b100shi2all! I would like to set up memory usage limit for process by pid (or by name) so, that process mem swap. I've found way through cgroups. Is there another way? If no how to do it by cgroups? I've mounted it as `mount -t cgroup2 none /mnt/cgroup2` and have no idea which file and how i have to change.00:36
Svetab100s: which channel do you want an answer in, ##linux or #ubuntu or somewhere else?00:37
Svetab100s: (you asked a question in both at the same time, i'm not sure...)00:37
nacc!crosspost | b100s00:38
ubottub100s: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.00:38
naccI guess Linux isn't an Ubuntu channel, but the principle applies00:38
Dodek02:35 < nacc> Dodek: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-scale-print.html e.g.00:38
Dodekyes, this looks like what I want00:38
Dodekthanks!00:38
naccDodek: yw00:38
omen_some people are very sensitive that you stay on topic, maybe they have just seen too much OT and that has got into them00:39
Svetab100s: use https://www.percona.com/blog/2015/07/01/using-cgroups-to-limit-mysql-and-mongodb-memory-usage/ and https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77939/turning-off-swapping-for-only-one-process-with-cgroups/77955 i think, kinda combine the advice provided (the first one does memory limit which shows how to use cgroups, but the latter shows how to limit swap in particular)00:44
b100sSveta, thanks; my main point is to move as much as possible mem of particular process inti swap00:50
b100ss/inti/into/00:50
Svetayou can set a small limit on its real memory size, it'll start using more swap00:50
b100syup; are there other ways?00:51
b100sSveta, in article author uses utilities cgcreate and cgclassify; is there way to done it without such utilities by writing values in files of cgroup2 fs?00:59
Bashing-omwildc4rd: Forum be down . can ping but page does not load .00:59
Svetab100s you could run your process in a new shell where you alter the ulimit01:00
b100sSveta, `ulimit — set or report file size limit`, there is no mem limits01:03
Svetab100s it can do memory limits too01:03
b100si don't see such possibility01:04
NginUSWhy won't ubuntuforums.org load for me? Keeps timing out.01:17
Bashing-omNginUS: Keep trying tp login to the foeum . Got problems and being worked on at this tome . up and down .01:20
Bashing-omforum*01:20
NginUScool, glad its a klnown issue thanks for letting me know01:21
NginUSBashing-om:01:21
Bashing-omNginUS: All in this together :)01:21
NginUSBashing-om: Don't know if it's related but I disabled ipv6 just now & it loaded like normal. Could be related or not... FYI in case it really helps01:29
Bashing-omNginUS: Can not say the relationship . I also am able to access the forum now - IPV4 :)01:30
waltmanIs there a problem with ubuntuforums.org? It's often really slow, and now it seems completely unresponsive.01:40
waltmanSeems up again, at least for now.01:42
Bashing-omwaltman: yeah .. They be working on th forum . Presently also doing well for me .01:46
Bashing-omwaltman: Nope .. slowed back down ..:(01:47
waltmanThanks. I managed to post my comment in the 2 minutes it was back up. :)01:49
emmawas simplescreenrecorder removed from the repos? If so why? And what do you use for a screen recorder then?01:55
nacc!info simplescreenrecorder01:56
ubottusimplescreenrecorder (source: simplescreenrecorder): Feature-rich screen recorder for X11 and OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-2 (artful), package size 1187 kB, installed size 3037 kB01:56
naccemma: --^01:56
emmaem@satellite:~$ sudo apt-get install simplescreenrecorder02:00
emmaReading package lists... Done02:00
emmaBuilding dependency tree02:00
emmaReading state information... Done02:00
emmaE: Unable to locate package simplescreenrecorder02:00
emmaem@satellite:~$02:00
emmanacc: ^02:01
Bashing-omemma: What release are you on .. and also insure that you have the universe repo enabled .02:03
emmaBashing-om: Release:        16.0402:04
doug16kalt+O won't press an OK button that has O underlined in gnome? what the heck?02:05
Bashing-omemma: confirmed that it is not in the xenial repo .02:05
doug16kwhat used to be alt+f11 alt+O  has now become alt+11 grab my mouse, aim at OK button, and click it like an idiot02:06
Bashing-om!info simplescreenrecorder xenial02:06
ubottuPackage simplescreenrecorder does not exist in xenial02:06
emmaIt does not exist.02:07
naccemma: it only exists in 17.04 and later02:08
naccemma: so your assertion that it was "removed" was very confusing02:08
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antiPoPhi, I just updated my system and I'm got a "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'" warning. Why this?02:43
antiPoPI've google for it, and seems a windows program but I don't have windows installed in this system02:43
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: did you add external ppa's to your system?02:44
antiPoPyes, but you user-side apps02:44
antiPoPyes, but just user-side apps02:45
yomane_2353hello02:45
lotuspsychjeyomane_2353: welcome, what can we do for you?02:45
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: remember adding something like flexnet to your system then?02:46
antiPoPlotuspsychje, no, nothing about that02:46
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: must be something you added yourself, never seen that error before?02:47
antiPoPlotuspsychje, not I havent' seen02:47
yomane_2353lotuspsychje : nothing .. i'm in visit02:48
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: can this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/195390/grub-gives-messages-about-the-boot-sector-being-used-by-other-software-what-sho02:49
antiPoPlotuspsychje, yes, I saw that. How can I dump sector 32 in a readable form?02:51
lotuspsychje!recovergrub | antiPoP this you can also try02:51
ubottuantiPoP this you can also try: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub02:51
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: not sure mate, not familliar with this problem02:51
antiPoPlotuspsychje,  ok thanks02:52
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: whats your ubuntu version plz?02:54
antiPoPlotuspsychje, 16.0402:54
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: fully updated to .3?02:54
antiPoPwithout hwe kernel02:54
antiPoPlotuspsychje, I zeroed that sector and reinstalled grub, seems fine now, but I'm wondering why that was there02:58
antiPoPreboot..02:59
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GillaGirlswitched from on-board graphics to an AMD card, now ubuntu 16.04 desktop wont load and has a low graphics mode error.  any suggestions?03:03
doug16kGillaGirl, did you install amd's driver from the website?03:04
GillaGirldoug I tried with and without it.03:05
GillaGirlamdgpu-pro I beleive03:05
doug16kdoes amd's installer have a thing to reinitialize the xorg config files?03:05
doug16knvidia's do03:06
GillaGirldoug16k, no idea....  never heard of it.03:06
doug16kGillaGirl, this mentions it in step 6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD03:09
doug16kI don't have an AMD GPU so I'm not sure though03:09
antiPoPlotuspsychje, re03:10
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: better now?03:10
antiPoPlotuspsychje, same but without the warning03:11
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: i would clean out the ppa's, scan system with clamav, repair grub, update system..03:12
antiPoPlotuspsychje, ppas seems fine, grub is repaired and system updated03:16
nwinter!bluetooth03:16
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup03:16
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antiPoPlotuspsychje, maybe I added a windows hd long time ago and that installed FlexNet, thanks for your help03:19
lotuspsychjeantiPoP: yeah, its not something ubuntu would get naturally03:20
lucas-argpspp missing from 17.10?03:27
nacc!info pspp artful | lucas-arg03:34
ubottulucas-arg: Package pspp does not exist in artful03:34
nacclucas-arg: i believe it failed to build or somethig, check the publishing history at pad.lv/u/pspp03:35
nacclucas-arg: LP: #170915803:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1709158 in sardana (Ubuntu) "demote ftbfs packages blocking gsl" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170915803:36
kevin125how do i fix a broken btrfs volume ? I got this errors:03:42
kevin125 I paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com/25827492/03:42
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rullieso i think my 17.10 wayland freeze situation has something to do with the gnome 3 theme i was using.  after switched to Arc, I haven't had any problem.  Is this a possibility or I just haven't sampled enough?04:03
rullieie. can gnome theme freeze the UI?  (audio still works)04:04
kevin125btrfs unable to find ref byte nr 47715438592 parent 0 root 1  owner 0 offset 104:16
kevin125?? how to resolve ?04:16
Ghost_562Good Evening, My computer when shutting down takes forever. Looks like it gets stuck on trying to stop the network manager04:27
Ghost_562I'm on 17.10 and never had this issue until upgrading from 17.0404:28
hendrywhat is the package for the simple `mail` command? just want to test mstmprc04:40
mutantehendry: mailutils04:46
caliculkWould someone mind helping me figure out an issue I have with my machine and IPv6? I have a static IP address that is being managed by /etc/network/interfaces, the file itself is correct, I have had multiple people double check it. However, when I try to do anything with IPv6 it will fail usually stating that it can't reach a host.04:47
caliculkSo I have been trying to restart my networking service, but every time I do that, I get this fun error message in journalctl:  RTNETLINK answers: File exists04:48
caliculkI can't ping the gateway, which means something is wrong with my routing table...04:48
caliculkBut, I can't figure out what or how to remove what I THINK is the invalid entry.04:48
* alkisg waves04:53
Svetaalkisg: caliculk has issues with ipv6, ipv4 works ok, restarting of networking gives error in journalctl " RTNETLINK answers: File exists"04:58
alkisgSveta: many ISPs have IPv6 issues here, so in network-manager I check to use it only for the link-local network :)04:59
Apachezhow come ubuntu 17.10 iso doesnt contain software to burn cd/dvd discs?05:00
caliculkalkisg, unfortunately network-manager is not an option here. I have a link-local address, however, I am trying to configure inbound access on ipv605:05
mutanteApachez: probably because most people use USB flash drives to boot nowadays05:06
Jordan_Ukevin125: You should not be using such an old kernel with btrfs.05:07
caliculkIn that case, I can't just use link-local to verify. I need to verify outbound and inbound connectivity.05:10
caliculkThat has to be with the public one, not the link local.05:10
Jordan_Ukevin125: I wouldn't use btrfs with Ubuntu 14.04 at all, but at the very least you should be using a much more recent kernel (like the latest upstream stable kernel release) when using btrfs.05:11
caliculkI guess I should go to #networking or something like that for this convo?05:13
Apachezmutante: yeah but other shit like various games that noone plays comes along but not something useful as a burner software such as brasero!?05:17
ApachezI was hoping that I might have missed that it is included but obviously it isnt05:17
Apachezthat is if you download the ubuntu 17.10 iso and create a bootable usb in order to burn things05:18
Apachezand whatelse05:18
mutanteApachez: afaict the packages are selected by popularity, results of http://popcon.ubuntu.com/05:23
mutanteApachez: is it a problem for you to just install brasero from the internet once install is finished?05:24
mutanteyou could make a DVD to get more packages on it05:24
selocolI used to have on the upper right corner of Fluxbox an icon that allowed me to change my input language from English to Chinese (so I can type in Chinese), but I turned off that icon, and now I can't find it anymore. How do I load it again?05:49
Apachezmutante: the problem was that I didnt have storage to install ubuntu on disk and install brasero and then create an iso out of this installation - all I had was the ubuntu 17.10 iso so I was hoping that burning software was already included when you use that iso as livecd but obivously not06:10
mutanteApachez: http://www.knoppix.org/   Knoppix is the first Linux Live CD that was around and apparently has Brasero on it06:20
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Loshkiknoppix also allowed you to boot off dvd, then remove the dvd, and use the burner to make other dvds. Is brasero still buggy? Can you get by with growisofs from the command line?06:23
ducasseApachez: you can install software on the live cd, so you can run brasero there06:42
certaindestinyHi all, I have ran into a strange issue with ubuntu 16.04. Whenever a network cable is present and link is up but no network connectivity is possible the GUI is not responding. There is no mouse. And 10 programs display crash messages07:10
certaindestinyAnybody have any idea why this is happening or where to look?07:10
alkisgStart with reporting the crash messages :)07:10
alkisgThey will likely point to the underlying issue that then exposed some bug in those apps07:11
doodiemanhi ther, i have set up a moodle on a ubuntu 16.04 with apache2. My Problem is, if i go to http://server it shows me the index with a moodle folder. if i click the moodlefolder, i get to my moodle startpage07:12
doodiemannow, how do i get it, to show the startpage with the serveradress?07:13
certaindestiny@alkisg, I am unable to open the crash reports and dmesg does not indicate a problem except for the lack of network configuration. Can you point me in the right direction where the logging might be?07:16
alkisgcertaindestiny: crash dumps go to /var/crash/*, you can report them even after reboot when you have net and no issues07:17
certaindestiny@alkisg, Apparently unity-settings-daemon crashed.07:24
alkisgcertaindestiny: that could then cause several issues; start by reporting that one07:24
certaindestiny@alkisg, in the .crash i am unable to find a reason for the crash. only the core dump and procmaps. Do you know where the deamon normally logs to/07:27
ducassecertaindestiny: you can try ~/.xsession-errors07:28
certaindestiny@ducasse, Isnt that rewritten on every boot?07:29
ducassecertaindestiny: on gui login, i would think - just login to a console instead07:30
thomas_Hey guys, anyone here know how to configure wminput? I'm trying to use my uDraw gametablet with Ubuntu 16.10. I have gotten the pen to move the mouse, but the sensitivity seems to be so severe that moving the pen slightly moves the mouse across half of the screen.07:31
ducassecertaindestiny: (you don't need the @ before the nick on irc, it will actually prevent some clients from highlighting)07:31
ducassethomas_: 16.10 is eol - you need to upgrade to a supported release07:32
certaindestinyducasse, I am unable to switch terminals as the login hangs on the other ttys (sorry didnt know it was an issue)07:32
thomas_ducasse: ah.. okay, ty. it seems like yesterday that i upgraded though! i'll upgrade and come back07:33
ducassecertaindestiny: hmmm. which kernel are you on?07:34
ducassethomas_: you are two releases behind :)07:34
certaindestiny4.4.0-97-generic07:34
ducassecertaindestiny: ok, what kind of gpu and driver?07:35
zautomatano manpage for redis?07:35
certaindestinynvidia GPU, Driver i believe is the legacy one. Let me check real quick07:35
certaindestinynvidia-384/xenial07:36
certaindestinyducasse, There are also older packages installed for the nvidia driver. might that pose an issue?07:37
ducassecertaindestiny: i'm not sure of that, tbh - i thought they conflicted so you could only install one at a time07:38
ducassecertaindestiny: have you tried installing the hwe stack?07:38
certaindestinyDucasse, Sorry i am unfamiliar with hwe, What is it and how can we install?07:40
ducasse!hwe07:41
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack07:41
aiena2I need some help I have 2 interfaces one interface which provides internet access via USB and another interface a LAN card going to a switch (not router). I want all the traffic from the USB interface to be passed to the ethernet interface so other compputers on the network can access the internet over the switch and receive ip's from the DHCP USB router how do I do that?07:42
ducassecertaindestiny: it might help with the networking lockup thing you described. i can't be sure of that, of course, but it's an easy thing to test.07:42
aiena2I followed this https://serverfault.com/questions/431593/iptables-forwarding-between-two-interface the answer with 16 upvotes but it did not work.07:43
certaindestinyaiena2, Do you want to still use the pc or do you want to turn it into a dedicated router?07:43
aiena2certaindestiny: I want to use the PC as well as make it a router for the other PC's on the lan07:43
aiena2id it is possible07:43
aiena2*if07:43
certaindestinyaiena2, I have done so a couple of years ago with ip tables. However some networking knowledge is recommended07:44
aiena2certaindestiny: can you guide me I have some networking knowledge but I think this is more forwardinmg traffic because real routing is between two networks07:45
aiena2here there is only one network two interfaces07:45
aiena2the network is to be provided purely by the USB interface with it's DHCP giving LAN ip's07:45
aiena2the rest of the computers connect via the other interface to the PC07:45
certaindestinyaiena, If you want this to work you do need to have 2 sepperate subnets as the " router " wont know which interface to route traffic through07:46
aiena2ok then I have a problem07:46
ducasseaiena2: try asking in ##networking07:46
aiena2because the USB modem does not allw me to specify subnets07:47
aiena2or configure DHCP07:47
aiena2I'll try07:47
certaindestinyaiena, https://www.tecmint.com/setup-linux-as-router/ Try this. It focusses more on centos and doesnt do NAT but it might help you understand what is going on07:49
certaindestinyducasse, I will try deinstalling the old drivers and updating to the latest hwe07:51
ducasseaiena2: be aware, many of those usb modems have magic in them that attempts to detect and block traffic coming from other computers07:51
certaindestinyaiena2, In that case you will niet to masquarade. I believe it is mentioned in the article aswell07:52
aiena2ducasse: this modem is an android device which provides wifi07:52
certaindestinyneed*07:52
aiena2so it allows multiple computers to connect to it over wifi07:52
aiena2only it has no screen and stuff07:52
certaindestinyaiena2, you might want to look into pfsense if this is a more permanent solution and you have the ability to place hardware07:53
aiena2and does not allw you to change the local network or configure DHCP07:53
aiena2certaindestiny: this is a temporary solution my ISP has some cut wire and they wont be able to fix it for a day I need internet for computers for today07:54
alkisgaiena2: what's the output of `ip a` ?07:54
alkisg(while both networks are connected)07:54
aiena2alkisg: I had messed up with iptables a bit following a guide I will post here. WIll that affect this output?07:55
ducassecertaindestiny: try those things first, then report back if it doesn't work.07:55
aiena2alkisg: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/3d702975 output of "ip a"07:55
alkisgaiena2: no07:55
aiena2alkisg:  'enxfcde56ff0106' is the USB interface the other one is 'enp3s0'07:57
alkisgaiena2: which ubuntu version is that?07:57
certaindestinyaiena2, I think it would be smart for you to draw the network and identify the interfaces/ip. assume that the device functions as a router with NAT/Masquarading enabled07:57
aiena2alkisg:  Ubuntu 16.04.3 but on kubuntu of it07:57
alkisgaiena2: network manager offers an option to set up a connection for internet sharing. Does it offer that in kubuntu as well?07:58
aiena2alkisg: running ' 4.4.0-97-generic' kernel07:58
alkisgNew ethernet connection, and then in the connection editor, select the "internet sharing" option07:58
aiena2alkisg: it might because KDE uses networkmanager07:58
alkisgTry it07:58
aiena2how do I reset my iptables?07:58
certaindestinyiptables -F07:59
alkisgaiena2: e.g. this documents what i'm proposing: https://askubuntu.com/questions/691986/network-manager-shared-connection-and-manual-settings-of-the-interface07:59
alkisg(the gui way there)07:59
alkisgdnsmasq-base is preinstalled in ubuntu 16.04.3, no need to install it08:00
aiena2alkisg: I cannot find out how to do it with network manager08:00
alkisgHave a quick look at the picture in the article08:00
alkisgIf kubuntu doesn't offer connection sharing, ok, do it with console08:00
alkisgaiena2 (if he comes back), https://nowardev.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/kubuntu-14-04-how-to-install-kubuntu-sharing-a-wifi-connection-with-another-computer/08:03
alkisg"Wired (shared)" it's called in Kubuntu08:03
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aiena2alkisg: sorry iptable -F messed up something08:08
alkisg(11:03:45 πμ) alkisg: aiena2 (if he comes back), https://nowardev.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/kubuntu-14-04-how-to-install-kubuntu-sharing-a-wifi-connection-with-another-computer/08:08
alkisg(11:03:54 πμ) alkisg: "Wired (shared)" it's called in Kubuntu08:08
alkisgaiena2: so you have a GUI way to do it, no need to use a console08:08
alkisgNote that you'll have 2 different subnets, and your PC will temporarily be a dhcp server08:09
alkisgAnd masquerade the traffic to the phone08:09
aiena2alkisg: here both interfaces are on the same PC08:11
aiena2is it possible to do this shared thing on the same PC?08:11
alkisgaiena2: that's exactly what the article documents08:12
aiena2alkisg: but it is to another PC08:12
alkisgIt has a wifi and a wired connection, and it's sharing the wired to "other pcs"08:12
alkisgYou have a usb and a wired connection, and you want to share the wired to "other pcs"08:12
alkisgExactly same thing08:12
aiena2I want to share the USB provided with the wired08:13
alkisgYes08:13
alkisgAs I said, same thing, please read the article08:13
aiena2so the USB is the long name08:13
alkisgYes08:13
alkisgRead the article. :)08:13
aiena2and the wired is the short name08:13
alkisgYes08:13
alkisgRead the article. :)08:13
aiena2I read it but am a bit confused08:14
alkisgOK, ask questions then08:14
aiena2so for the shred connection I still dont need to specify which interface08:14
aiena2shared08:14
aiena2or di Iset retricted to "wired interface name"08:14
alkisgYou share the wired connection. That "share" actually means that "other pcs" will use it, and will get "your internet"08:14
aiena2*do I set restricted to08:14
alkisgThey don't care how you get the internet08:14
alkisgYou don't need to restrict to device, no08:15
alkisg...as the screenshots there show08:15
aiena2alkisg: and that network isnt connected because I am connected to the USB one08:15
alkisgIt doesn't matter08:15
alkisgIt'll get a static ip and it'll become a dhcp server08:16
aiena2so now all other pc's will get the network over the wire let me try with another PC08:16
certaindestinyhttp://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/chap2_9781587133237/elementLinks/02fig03.jpg08:17
certaindestinyaiena2 you are basically building this. you kubuntu pc is the router08:17
alkisgThe kubuntu pc is "s1" in the picture08:17
alkisg"r1" would be the phone08:18
alkisgEh... not exactly, anyway...08:18
aiena2alkisg: not really R1 is my PC, R2 is the phone08:18
alkisgr2 is the ISP router08:18
certaindestinycorrect.08:18
certaindestinyLike i said before. When you know what you wanne build you can build it ;)08:19
aiena2USB is port is the S/0/0/0 and the enthernet port on my PC is G0/0 of R1, R2 gives DHCP08:19
alkisgThere are 3 subnets involved, they don't all show up in that example diagram08:19
certaindestinyaiena2, in your case R1 is also giving dhcp08:19
alkisginternal subnet for wired, internet facing subnet for phone, and the external, internet ip of the phone08:19
aiena2certaindestiny: hmm R1 being my PC should give DHCP from only R208:20
aiena2it receives an IP from R2 too08:20
alkisgAnyways I think you're making a simple GUI-matter complex now :)08:20
certaindestinyaiena2, now as you need 2 different subnets for a router to work08:20
aiena2SO I need G0/0 to be on a different network than S/0/0/0 na droute from S0/0/0 to G0/0 that is typically how it would be done08:21
aiena2I dont understnad hw the PC will give DHCP unless I make it a router08:22
aiena2I want my PC to be more like a switch08:23
aiena2with the USB and the ethenet NIC as ports08:23
aiena2alkisg: I set up the shared wired connection08:23
TormHello.08:24
aiena2the other PC is not reciecing the internet from this PC08:24
aiena2but will try later need to go for lunch08:24
TormI'm having some trouble reinstalling ubuntu. Have tried trice already today, but it doesen't boot08:24
alkisgaiena2: what's the output of `ip a` now? Also, on the other PCs, check, did they get an IP?08:28
TormAnyone able to help me with my instalaton problem?08:28
Torm*installation08:30
Zborgwhen it comes to copying a bunch of files to a drive and then unmounting (for example, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdcard; cp -a foo /media/sdcard/; umount /dev/sdb1) will using the 'sync' mount option really make things much slower?08:32
certaindestinytorm, Are you seeing grub when booting?08:32
TormJup, but as soon as i try to boot it gets stuck. Like i said, i have tried to reinstall it several time after i broke it a couple days ago, but it doesen't want to boot08:33
certaindestinyIs there a message on the screen when you boot?08:34
TormNope, it just gets stuck on the ubuntu logo, or the blank orange screen before it08:35
certaindestinyWhen you pres ctrl+alt f1 or f2 are you able to see logging?08:36
Tormill check08:36
certaindestinyAlso there are a few "failsafes" on boot which might take up to 15 minutes dending on configuration and packages installed. it might be able to boot when you wait 15 minutes08:38
certaindestinyducasse, I am still having issues with GUI08:39
certaindestinyupdating did not fix it :(08:39
thomas_I'm back. Does anyone here have experience with wminput? I'm trying to use my uDraw tablet, but the pen is extremely sensitive with the config I'm using. The left mouse button will also need to be "inverted" (Press it when the button on the pen is not pressed, vice versa)08:41
thomas_Here's my config: https://hastebin.com/asakixodiz.php08:42
thomas_Wait, let me paste it to the actual paste thing (Just caught a glimpse of the topic), sorry08:42
thomas_Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25828896/ (Sorry for this unintentional spam.)08:43
mircx1Hello i want ask something please this install libreadline6-dev for java?08:51
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roxluHi! Does someone know how I can make sure my PC cannot make any connections to a specific IP address?09:01
ikoniaufw09:02
roxluOh sorry ikonia, with iptables09:05
ikoniaufw is a front end to iptables09:06
roxluDo I use: iptables -D INPUT -s IP.ADDRESS -j DROP ?09:06
ikoniaif you want specific iptables rules help the #netfilter channel can help09:06
roxluah thanks09:06
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klemax| changed my dns resolver from /etc/resolver but systemd-resolver overwrote it.09:14
klemaxHow to change my dns resolver permanently?09:14
kevin125in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/09:21
klemaxkevin125: No such as directory09:30
kevin125ubuntu or not?09:30
klemaxThere is a update-libc.d09:31
klemaxUbuntu.09:31
klemaxUbuntu 17.10...09:32
tomeaton17Does anybody else get really high CPU usage by the slack desktop program (>20%)09:33
papyrcatafter I install Ubuntu via nomodeset how do I get my gpu functioning properly so I can actually use the OS?09:34
Ben64depends on the gpu, probably just by installing the correct driver09:35
hateballpapyrcat: hold shift to get to grub to append nomodeset again, then install the restricted driver09:35
hateballpapyrcat: either via gui or a "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"09:35
papyrcat"restricted" driver? and what will that install? the mesa ones, or the amdgpu-pro ones, orr something else entirely?09:36
welcomepartyhey guys, how can i know that RHEL is using proxy connection? My initial09:45
welcomeparty                      analysis was to check whether environment variable is set up already, by09:45
papyrcatfor a dudal boot, do I need to shrink Windows before running the Ubuntu installer?09:51
papyrcatdual*09:51
auronandacepapyrcat: usually it is best to shrink windows partitions with tools native to windows but gparted and the partitioning segment in the ubuntu installer can be used also09:54
papyrcatauronandace how much space should I set aside for root? 20GB-ish?09:56
auronandacepapyrcat: entirely depends on what you plan to do with ubuntu09:56
auronandacepapyrcat: if you are hosting loads of VM's then you'll find 20gb very limiting09:57
papyrcatbut if it's mainly going to be gaming/music production...?09:57
auronandacepapyrcat: if you are just using ubuntu for browsing the internet and listening to music, watching movies then 20gb should be fine (especially if you have a separate storage partition)09:58
papyrcati've got a 2TB HDD09:58
papyrcatand a 256GB SSD i'm splitting with windows09:59
papyrcatI was planning on giving Ubuntu around 100-120GB of it, with 20 for root and the rest for /home09:59
auronandacepapyrcat: games can be quite big and movie/music production can take quite some space09:59
papyrcatunless there's not a separate /home partition and i'm just getting confused09:59
auronandacepapyrcat: you can have a separate /home partition if you want (i only tend to use a root partition)10:00
papyrcati'll likely go with whatever the default is, i don't particularly need a separate /home, I think10:00
papyrcatthat makes it easier, then I can just un-allocate 120gb-ish for /root and be good to go?10:01
auronandacepapyrcat: in that case 100gb should be fine, that is what i use for my laptop installation and i do a tiny bit of video editing on rare occasion10:01
papyrcati think that should be enough for a few games at a time and a pile of VSTs and such10:01
papyrcatnot much more I can give with a 256gb ssd10:02
papyrcatauronandace do you know which drivers "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" installs, as far as GPU goes?10:03
auronandacepapyrcat: by default it tries to use the open source drivers but you can change that later10:03
auronandacepapyrcat: depends on your card10:03
papyrcatmy 390 is a pain, i can't even run the installer without nomodeset so i'm worried about finding the right drivers after boot10:04
papyrcati probably need the mesa ones10:04
papyrcatbut if those are the ones its trying to use for the installer and it's not working...i dunno :s10:04
Samy__hi, I am configuring ubuntu server, ping 8.8.8.8 is working but I am not able to ping google.com neither sudo apt-get update works10:05
Samy__I have connected to ethernet and configured the connection.10:05
ikevincheck your dns server settings10:05
certaindestinysamy__ check dns config10:05
certaindestinysamy__ https://askubuntu.com/questions/346838/how-do-i-configure-my-dns-settings-in-ubuntu-server10:06
Samy__certaindestiny: already did this, both up and down works, I have the same setting, I have dns 8.8.8.8 in /etc/network/interfaces also10:07
Samy__a normal ping works and I am able to connect when I go to try ubuntu in simple internet also10:07
certaindestinyCan you send your interfaces file using pastebin?10:08
ikevinif simple ping work and domain name not working, it's a dns issue10:08
certaindestinyikevin Could be a firewall not allowing edns010:08
ikevincertaindestiny, yes, so a dns issue at firewall level10:09
Samy__ikevin: certaindestiny its not a firewal issue as net works in try ubuntu on simple ubuntu10:09
Samy__for dns what can be the issue?10:09
ikevinSamy__, try (as tem solution): echo "namserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf10:10
ikevintemp*10:10
ikevinnameserver 8.8.8.8*10:10
certaindestinySamy__ Please send us your interfaces configuration. You can also try to use dig +tcp google.com and see if that works10:10
Samy__ikevin: already did that didnt work10:10
certaindestinyor try dig google.com @8.8.8.810:15
Samy__certaindestiny: https://pastebin.com/WZSazjg210:15
certaindestinydns-nameservers X.X.X.X10:16
certaindestinyPlease change the config and reboot the networking service10:16
Samy__certaindestiny: chanding dns to dns-nameservers or adding this?10:16
certaindestinychanging10:17
certaindestinydns 1 and dns 2 is rhel config10:17
Samy__certaindestiny: I also have auto lo iface lo inet loopback should I remove it?10:19
klemaxhello.10:19
certaindestinyno. Please follow the article i sent you. It list all the options10:20
klemaxI have been seeing this log for long time in syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25829423/10:20
certaindestinyklemax Hello10:20
klemaxbecause of it, the system has been freezing..10:20
klemaxhow to fix it?10:21
certaindestinyklemax, Which release are you running?10:21
Samy__certaindestiny: doesnt help, I get unkown host now only 8.8.8.8 works10:21
certaindestinyhave you restarted the network service?10:22
certaindestinyservice network restart10:22
klemaxcertaindestiny: ubuntu 17.1010:22
klemaxcertaindestiny: it fails after sleeping.10:23
Samy__certaindestiny: networking.service? It failed to restart :/10:23
certaindestinySamy__ then config is not committed. You can also reboot the system10:23
certaindestinyklemax, I am seeing a couple of bugs with wpasup, Are you running latest version of the package?10:24
Samy__certaindestiny: still unkown host :/10:27
certaindestinywhat happens when you use dig google.com @8.8.8.810:27
Samy__certaindestiny: connection timed out:  no servers could be reached10:28
ikevinSamy__, and ping to 8.8.8.8 work?10:29
Samy__ikevin: yes10:29
ikevinSamy__, it's maybe your firewall that don't allow you to do external dns query10:29
Samy__ikevin: then how it works on try ubuntu?10:29
Samy__andsimilarly on other systems10:30
ikevinit use the same network interface?10:30
Samy__ikevin: yes10:30
Samy__:/10:30
ikevindon't they use dhcp settings from your router?10:30
klemaxcertaindestiny: I dont have any idea about what provides it.10:32
ikevintry this settings: https://pastebin.com/4kKdkP1W10:32
klemaxwhich package provides wpasup?10:32
Samy__ikevin: only this much?10:34
ikevinklemax, aptitude why wpasupplicant10:34
ikevinSamy__, yes, this will tell system to ask for network settings using dhcp10:35
Samy__ikevin: dhcp is not present in the server install I suppose10:35
Samy__I hope that doesnt make a diff10:35
ikevinSamy__, in most case, dhcp is on the router where server is connected, by default, try ubuntu use dhcp10:36
Samy__ikevin: on ubuntu server when I tried dhcpcd it asked me to install it10:36
ikevinyou can try "dhclient en01" to see if dhcp is availlable on your network10:36
ikevindhcpd is the dhcp server, dhcp client is installed by default10:37
certaindestinysamy__ if the command above failed i would check the firewall. most likely it does not allow dns or port 53 to be accessed by your server.10:37
certaindestinyPerhaps your organisation prefers you use a company owned DNS server10:38
Samy__certaindestiny: but all other systems work :/10:38
ikevin+1, disallowing external dns request is a good way to filter internet :(10:38
klemaxcertaindestiny: after switching from systemd-resolver to unbound has triggered that bug.10:38
ikevinSamy__, try dhcp10:39
Samy__ikevin: ah that worked10:40
Samy__what was I doing wrong10:41
Samy__thanks btw :)10:41
ikevin:)10:41
ikevinyou welcome10:41
neurrehi11:01
neurreso is apt build-dep supposed to work?11:01
tomreynall software is supposed to work the way it was designed. all software can have bugs.11:02
geirhaneurre: yes, works for me11:03
neurreafter fresh install of 16.04 or 17.10, source.list is not working by default11:03
neurreso one gets "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"11:04
tomreynso do that and it will work11:04
tomreynyou can use the GUI to do it11:04
tomreynwith a click on a tickbox11:04
neurrewhat do i need to tick?11:05
tomreynrun /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk11:05
tomreynclick on "source code"11:06
tomreynthis GUI is also available as "Software & Updates" from your system settings menu11:06
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BluesKajhey folks11:21
klemaxHow can i disable auto-mounting for internal devices especially ntfs part?11:23
sorin-mihaii want to use a qemu/kvm/libvirt VM as "workstation" and at the same time still have access in a host tty. the system is setup with ubuntu 16.04.03 as virtualization host. is it possible redirect to the system's video card to that VM's and then have the VM's screen shown on the monitor attached to the host?11:23
cpaelzersorin-mihai: if you pass through a graphics card and use it in the guest the output will come out of those cards plugs11:25
cpaelzersorin-mihai: you might be able to use the mostly available on chip graphic for the host, then pass the card to the guest - and on your monitor connect both to switch there e.g. one HDMI one via DP11:26
cpaelzerwould that work for you?11:26
alkisgsorin-mihai: you can "attach" one usb keyboard to the VM and have another usb keyboard outside the VM, that way it'll work fine without passing through cards11:26
alkisgI.e. you'll be able to type with 2 keyboards in 2 places without changing focus11:26
gangrelnanyone knows any radio automation software for ubuntu?11:31
krambiorixhi, when doing systemctl status cron   i see that the cron service is inactive (dead) , how can i a) found out what caused this and b) restart it?11:37
al2o3-crkrambiorix: its never been started in the first place.11:39
ioriakrambiorix, sudo systemctl status  crond.service   ?11:40
krambiorixioria, Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)11:40
krambiorixal2o3-cr, it has run before11:40
al2o3-crkrambiorix: did use use start or enable?11:41
krambiorixal2o3-cr, i didn't do anything11:41
ioriakrambiorix,  try this :   sudo service cron status11:42
al2o3-crkrambiorix: well you have to either use start for a session only or enable to enable it at boot.11:42
krambiorixioria, https://pastebin.com/85kKfFdP11:43
krambiorixal2o3-cr, how can i start ?11:43
sorin-mihaicpaelzer, thanks11:43
al2o3-crkrambiorix: systemctl start cron11:43
al2o3-cror whatever the unit file is11:44
al2o3-cror systemctl enable cron (to start at every boot)11:44
krambiorixok thanks, i'll try that11:45
Cat_BPRMhello, my ubuntu default video application isnt loading11:47
ioriakrambiorix,  have you tried to restart the service ?11:51
krambiorixal2o3-cr, ioria  enabling cron started it again11:51
krambiorixthanks for your help!11:51
ioriakrambiorix,  ok11:52
dan01Stupid giberish, but still... I want to make .java files have a certain icon. I've copied that .png to /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/mimetypes/text-x-java.png. But it won't work. Any idea12:07
XoksHow to see user path for mutt ?12:21
oerheksecho $PATH ?12:27
Xoksoerheks ?12:27
Xoksoerheks12:32
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|Night|hey13:07
|Night|anyone experince with CPU_IOWAIT  debugging?13:07
certaindestinyA tiny bit13:07
certaindestinyWhat is the issue?13:08
|Night|i keep getting warnings of CPU_IOWAIT13:08
certaindestinyis your CPU particularly bussy?13:09
|Night|https://paste.ubuntu.com/25830211/13:09
|Night|should not be, no streams13:09
|Night|cpuload is 1.2-2%13:09
certaindestinyCan you execute iostat -xm1 and see if it spikes often or only sometimes?13:10
certaindestiny-xm 113:10
Aliekezhihi guys, I can't successfully install and run XMind on Ubuntu...Any help would be nice. I have this error when I try to start it : https://bpaste.net/show/30025895295e13:10
|Night|installing syssta13:11
|Night|vg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle13:11
|Night|10,86    0,00    3,57    0,08    0,00   85,4913:11
|Night|Device            r/s     w/s     rMB/s     wMB/s   rrqm/s   wrqm/s  %rrqm  %wrqm r_a13:11
|Night|sorry that should been pastebin13:12
|Night|certaindestiny: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25830246/13:13
certaindestinyI am seeing zero iowait.13:16
certaindestinyHow often does it happen and does it impact any services?13:16
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certaindestiny|Night|, how often are you facing issues?13:22
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mkmeralHey guys do any of you had a trouble with PPTP VPN? especially with storing passwords for specific user13:26
mfooIs there a good place to ask about USNs? https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/ references a CVE-2014-0224 relating to openssl. The link on the CVE text heads to https://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/CVE-2014-0221. The description says that "and 1.0.1 before 1.0.1h", but it seems the package with the fix is 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2. Is this correct? I currently have 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.22 and my openssl reports itself as OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014, but the USN 13:32
oerheks!info openssl xenial13:35
ubottuopenssl (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility. In component main, is standard. Version 1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.8 (xenial), package size 494 kB, installed size 991 kB13:35
oerheksmfoo, what ubuntu version exactly?13:35
mfootrusty13:35
oerheks!info openssl trusty13:36
ubottuopenssl (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility. In component main, is standard. Version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.22 (trusty), package size 469 kB, installed size 900 kB13:36
oerheksthis one should be patched too13:36
oerheksthe numbering is different when it is backported, i think it is correct.13:37
mfooMight there be a link I can check out containing the merge? Or a release notes for this version of the package?13:38
mfoo(Can I answer the question of "do I have a patched version" myself somehow?)13:38
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2213:39
ducassemfoo: 'apt-get changelog packagename'13:40
mfooOK, and changing the .22 to a .2 on the end reveals that this patch is applied. Thanks a lot (also thanks ducasse )13:40
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Faynhello. Is it possible to remove Alt-§ shortcut in ubuntu 16.04 LTS? I want this combination to  do something else, not to show window list13:59
FaynUnity desktop13:59
EriC^^Fayn: what's that? S ?14:00
EriC^^you mean alt + tab?14:00
FaynButton between Tab and Esc14:01
Faynleft from 114:01
FaynEriC^^: this one https://i.imgur.com/ekBJxl8.png14:04
EriC^^Fayn: ah, "tidle" ~14:05
EriC^^*tilde14:05
FaynEriC^^: i guess it's layout specific, in my keyboard tilde is near Enter :D14:05
EriC^^Fayn: oh i see14:06
Faynit says this key is 'section'14:06
EriC^^Fayn: try this out https://askubuntu.com/questions/132304/how-to-disable-alt14:07
allurehey guys, how hard it is to monitor a linux router's interface with cacti?14:07
allureI am trying to set it up using snmpd, but it has been a mess :-p14:08
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dkdmnwhere can I find the system requirements for ubuntu 16.04?14:15
jerdkdmn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements14:16
Toadisattvahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements14:16
dkdmn16.0414:16
Toadisattvaawww beat me to it14:16
dkdmnthose are not specific14:17
bcowanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/s390x/ch02.html14:17
indistyloNot able to make bootable pendrive, I am trying to create debian stretch lts bootable usb from Ubuntu via bash terminal, its not able to format the pendrive and mount it, more details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25830584/14:19
akikindistylo: you can write it to your usb stick with "sudo dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1024k; sync"14:21
indistyloakik, I already used this : "sudo dd if=/home/aruns/debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdb14:23
indistylo"14:23
akikindistylo: ok it's done14:24
galileopyhello!! I just got a usb-c to hdmi display adapter, however I don't what should I install to make it work, when plugged udev just tells me that's a hidraw device14:24
akikindistylo: why do you run mkdosfs in your paste?14:24
galileopyI just installed the displaylink drivers, I'll restart and join back to this channel14:25
indistylothere was some size problem so I stopped/kill the {ctrl+C} in between , then inserted big size pendrive and tried to format it, no getting this error message, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25830632/14:26
akikindistylo: for your use case, there's no need to mkdosfs anything. just write the iso on the usb14:26
FaynEriC^^: I followed https://askubuntu.com/a/466403 and rebooted but this still shows with shortcut: https://imgur.com/JLuAqgs. dconf value is ['disabled'], ccsm also says disabled :(14:33
EriC^^Fayn: disabled means it's using alt+~ , try setting it to something else14:33
Faynoh i see. trying it.14:34
indistyloakik, Yes its not required14:34
dkdmncan ubuntu be installed onto SD-Card?14:53
bcowanSure if your bios/efi supports booting from there14:54
indistyloany inputs please, I tried this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25830771/ , How can I format pendrive via terminal and then do dd if=path_to_image of=path_to_usb14:55
bcowanWon’t be the fastest install on the planet14:55
akikindistylo: 1) umount every partition that you have mounted off your usb stick 2) use the sudo dd command i pasted earlier 3) ??? 4) PROFIT14:56
bcowanYeah I don’t know why he’s doing all the formatting14:57
akikindistylo: once you have written the iso on the usb stick, it's ready to be used14:57
dkdmncan I clone the existing system to a card?14:58
akikindistylo: fyi, always before creating a file system on a partition, umount it first14:59
bcowandkdmn: yeah, but you’re gonna have to change the fstab and redo grub14:59
|Night|certaindesti from time to time15:08
skinuxHow do we save a screenshot? I've had screen flash three times now, but nothing in the clipboard15:09
MrCrackPotBuildeskinux it normally just pops up a new window asking if you want to saave or delete or copy to clipboard15:10
MrCrackPotBuildeim on 16.04 and the new window is from gnome-screenshot15:11
skinuxWell, it's not doing that15:12
GladiaTeurHello there guys i just upgraded from ubuntu 16.04 to 17.04 and then upgraded to 17.10 i fixed all errors i faced now i only have a problem with dock it's not showing and on setting dock is empty15:13
skinuxOKay. I got the screenshot. Now can someone help me with why the panel screws up with app icons? Look at the first app icon and you'll see what I mean. https://imgur.com/a/bxh7f15:15
MacroManHow can I reset my ca-certificates back to the defaults? I added a snakeoil cert at some point which is causing me problems, but I can't find it.15:17
|Night|check in /etc/ssl/private/15:17
skinuxAlso, is Brasero's Burn Several Files feature known to work well?15:18
tomreynto reset ca-certificates to defaults, i guess the easiest is to: sudo apt-get purge ca-certificates; sudo apt-get install ca-certificates15:18
tomreynthis may not remove certificates you have installed in or below /etc/ssl though15:19
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indistyloakik, got it ok15:26
Faynapparently there is bug with Unity that makes Alt+Above_Tab shortcut to not work at all. Might as well switch to Ubuntu Mate then. Only reason i switched from Arch was good support for AMDGPU-PRO either way15:26
alkisgtomreyn: sudo apt-get purge ca-certificates ==> removes a whole lot of packages, that won't be reinstalled when you reinstall ca-certificates15:27
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tomreyngood point, dpkg --purge then15:29
malkaunshow do i get rid of nvidia screen tearing in 17.04?15:43
skinuxDoes 16.04.3 have the Gnome desktop that Ubuntu switched back to?15:45
leftyfbmalkauns: I don't have the answer for you, but do you know 17.04 is only supported till January?15:45
skinuxI assume they just went back to the standard Gnome?15:45
leftyfbskinux: not really. You can install gnome shell, but not what has been developed/modified by Canonical in 17.10.15:45
leftyfbskinux: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/install-gnome-3-20-ubuntu-16-04-lts15:46
leftyfbskinux: you can just install gnome-shell from 16.04. Though it'll be a bit outdated I think.15:47
leftyfblooks like that might be your only option actually. The ppa that link suggests says: "This PPA is no longer updated for releases older than Ubuntu 17.04. If you are using an older release, please ppa-purge this PPA and consider upgrading to a newer Ubuntu release."15:48
leftyfbskinux: the gnome-shell package in 16.04 seems to be more up to date than that ppa anyway15:49
skinuxWhy would they use an older version to create their new desktop??15:50
leftyfbhuh?15:51
leftyfbskinux: the version available in 16.04 is 3.18. The one in 17.10 is 3.26. which is the latest15:51
skinuxOkay.15:52
akikit's really going to be strange to support 16.04 until 2021 with unity15:52
skinuxWell, I think I have shell installed on 16.04.3 already15:52
akikand if you can't get the ubuntu customized gnome 3 installed in 16.04 at all15:54
chudakI installed fresh 16.04 on headless NUC and connect to it via ssh and x11vnc, via x11vnc the desktop respond is very slow, I can see windows being redrawn, not sure what's wrong, any help please ?15:54
leftyfbakik: IMO people shouldn't be running 16.04 on a desktop past next April15:55
leftyfbakik: for server, the desktop of course doesn't matter15:55
akikleftyfb: it will be supported on the desktop anyway, right?15:56
chudakwhat would you suggest instead ?15:56
leftyfbchudak: wifi issues?15:56
leftyfbakik: yep15:56
akikleftyfb: why do you say it shouldn't be used?15:56
chudakleftyfb: no I turned off wifi and wire now15:56
leftyfbakik: because the next LTS release will be out by then. Time to upgrade :)15:56
oerheksleftyfb, stable users upgrade when 18.04.1 comes out, so your story does not fit the reality15:58
NginUScan't get qdbus commands to execute in a bash script but they're fine pasted into a terminal line by line- Google-ing for an hour now with nothing... anyone good at this?15:59
leftyfboerheks: how does that differ from what I'm saying? I'm saying, come April, people should upgrade to 18.04. Then there shouldn't be people running 16.04 till 2021. This is of course my opinion on how it SHOULD work.15:59
leftyfbNginUS: try !#/bin/bash -x as your interpreter and watch and see where/why it fails16:00
chudakanybody has seen this slowness and knows how to fix? I am about ti try reinstalling again :(16:00
NginUSleftyfb: Never heard of that- there is hope!16:00
akikit's hash bang i.e. #!16:01
leftyfboops16:02
leftyfbakik: my bad16:02
NginUSakik: I do that all the time, have to pull up an old one to c/p, lol16:02
leftyfbNginUS: ^16:02
pavloschudak: you could install iperf on both systems and measure network speed between the 216:04
chudakpavlos: what would it tell me?  ssh is very fast and all other systems also good16:05
NginUSleftyfb: no difference. looks like it hangs on a qdbus command16:06
NginUSsame command i can paste into bash & no problems16:06
pavloschudak: I get 16.4 Mbits/sec, my local net is 100 Mbps16:07
chudakI wonder if there is a way to disable windows animation?16:09
chudakthey look like zooming in and out16:09
Jordan_Ukevin125: Did you see my message to you about your btrfs issues?16:19
chudakthe problem seems to be related to connected and disconnected monitor, in headless mode system is very slow16:29
leftyfbchudak: maybe it's due to the resolution set during headless mode?16:31
leftyfbmaybe see if you can force the resolution in x11vnc16:32
GladiaTeurHello there guys i noticed that unity tweak tool is not working on ubuntu 17.10 is there any way to let it work or how to? if not let me know if i have to remove it!!16:33
akikchudak: if you want a lighter remote desktop setup, i'd suggest x2go. it's not in ubuntu repositories but easily installable anyhow16:33
chudakno it used to run fast before I rebuilt, its probably something related to video driver, but not sure16:33
chudakhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/953404/desktop-sharing-slow-when-no-monitor-is-connected-during-boot/969944#96994416:34
chudakthis is probably it https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in16:35
Jordan_UGladiaTeur: Unity is not used by default in Ubuntu 17.10, istead you get a Unity-like gnome session.16:36
GladiaTeurJordan_U: What you by instead you get a unity-like gnome session?16:37
akikGladiaTeur: there's also gnome-tweak-tool16:37
Jordan_UGladiaTeur: They've modified Gnome-shell to look and act like Unity.16:37
GladiaTeurakik: is it has options and interface like unity tweak tool one?16:38
akikGladiaTeur: not sure but try i16:39
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scatterphi i dont know a better place to ask... my vps provider is not really supporting me on the issue basiclly i have a 300gb ssd 12gb of ram and 8mb of video ram available to me via the default vnc settings (cirrus card) i am looking for a way to get a much higher resoloution maybe making use of the 12gb of ram on the system or something like vnc or somehow passing arguments to qemu via a custom16:39
scatterpbios does any one have a suggestion ? ceheteh said scatterp: since its a vps, do you really need hardware display emulated? running some remote display server may just work out of the box, vnc, xpra, rdp or alike : i tried his idea and it does not work out of the box i understand from stack exchange that this should work if i "unplug the monitor" but i am not sure how to do this from the command16:39
scatterpline...16:39
GladiaTeurJordan_U: I see but there is some options that i need in unity tweak tool do gnome tweak tol works with it?16:39
akikgaleido: unity and gnome are two totally different desktops16:39
GladiaTeurakik: yep i'll try gnome tweak tool16:41
Jordan_UGladiaTeur: It's a different tool, for configuring a different piece of software. The options and interface to change them will be different. Only you know what options you specifically need.16:41
akikgaleido: there's also dconf-editor which you might run into. it can be used to change gnome settings16:42
alkisgscatterp: x2go creates a virtual monitor that matches your client (e.g. even windows) monitor, so it's completely unrelated to the emulated cirrus16:42
akiki meant GladiaTeur16:42
scatterpalkisg ok so i install x2go then what ?16:43
alkisgscatterp: you install x2goserver on the server and x2goclient on some client, and connect. That's all.16:43
alkisgscatterp: when you resize the client window, the "virtual screen" will resize to fit the window, so you won't be limited by cirrus at all16:44
scatterpalkisg ok is there windows/mac client for that ?16:44
alkisgscatterp: yes, google x2go and follow instructions from their site16:44
scatterpalkisg if i resize it to 1200x800 and then connect with teamviewer will i get the resolution the same ?16:45
alkisgYes, but why use both teamviewer and x2go...16:45
scatterpwill test this now be right back16:45
alkisgYou'll need to start teamviewer from inside the x2go x display of course16:46
codepython777Is anyone good with the kernel usb system hanging in here (xhci/usb 3 connection issues). Here is my dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25831308/16:46
robertfHello how are you?16:47
scatterpalkisg ok thanks will test now16:47
robertfI have network card realtek  rtl8111/8168/8411 what's the firmware to load it?16:48
akikrobertf: do you get any output with "lsmod | grep rtl" ?16:49
robertfakik: no output16:50
akikrobertf: most of the realtek drivers are for wifi and you have ethernet16:51
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GladiaTeurI need the socondary click on icon to reduce the window16:52
akikrobertf: here's somebody who's done it: https://unixblogger.com/2016/08/11/how-to-get-your-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-working-updated-guide/16:52
akikrobertf: r8168-dkms seems to be the needed package16:53
GladiaTeursocondary click on icon to reduce the window available on unity tweak tool only that's so sad16:55
robertfakik: how to download it? xenial is installed16:57
akikrobertf: it's laid out in that blog post16:59
oaulakhanyone have any idea why i just can't install mongodb? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25831390/17:00
GladiaTeurno idea?17:04
jvelasquezhi.  I have vm images listed in /var/lib/libvirt/images/,  but after a reboot of the host dom0, nothing listed in `virsh list`.  how do I start a guest?17:04
arbitrarystringvirsh list --all17:07
akikGladiaTeur: try rephrasing your question17:07
arbitrarystringvirsh start vmname17:08
jvelasquezarbitrarystring, thank you.17:12
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waltmanI was looking at some bugs I've reported, and some of them are over 6 months old with no action on them. It's pretty frustrating to submit bug reports and have nothing ever happen on them.17:19
waltmanOne of the bugs I reported for fail2ban would be literally just removing "imap3" from a config file.17:20
wedgiewaltman: for things like that maybe it would be better to report it upstream... unless the problem is an ubuntu customization17:21
waltmanThis really sounds like an ubuntu problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fail2ban/+bug/168286417:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1682864 in fail2ban (Ubuntu) "fail2ban should remove references to imap3 in 17.04" [Undecided,New]17:22
waltmanwedgie: also for things like that, maybe the maintainer should reply to the bug reports saying that?17:22
dkdmnwaltman: ubuntu is past its heyday. if your bug is applicable to those distrubutions, it is better to report it in debian or redhat trackers17:23
wedgiewaltman: fair enough17:23
waltmanBased on the latest release notes, this also sounds like a bug introduced by the downstream maintainer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apcupsd/+bug/168269617:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1682696 in apcupsd (Ubuntu) "apcupsd installer silently overwrites apcupsd.conf" [Undecided,New]17:23
waltmanAlso I, as an end user, can't be expected to be able to judge whether a bug I'm seeing has been caused upstream or by the package maintainer's local changes.17:25
scatterpalkisg still working on it ... one sec17:27
alkisgwaltman: is the setting your speak of in this file? https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/blob/0.11/config/jail.conf17:27
faqeerhi17:28
waltmanalkisg: Yes, I actually checked there earlier today. But that seems like something that clearly needs to be changed on the ubuntu end, because it might be getting used on another platform that still supports imap3.17:29
scatterpalkisg currently i get just a blank screen black trying to understand why..17:29
alkisgwaltman: if it's used on some platforms and not on others, it should be generated (.in). I don't see why that would be ubuntu-specific. E.g. you could also file it in debian so that ubuntu "inherits" the fix, but it sounds like an upstream issue.17:30
alkisgwaltman: don't expect all distributions and all derivatives to have maintainers for all packages17:30
waltmanI don't think it's unreasonable to have someone respond to bug reports.17:30
wedgiealkisg: well, *someone* is creating that package...17:30
alkisgFor the reasons you said, ubuntu devs propose that you use launchpad. After 10 years in Ubuntu, I know that in 90% of the cases this is *NOT* helpful... :/17:30
alkisgBugs should best be filed against the maintainer of the exact line of code that causes the issue...17:31
waltmanSo all those bug reports for fail2ban on debian are just going to sit there forever?17:31
waltmanMy bug reports are all on launchpad.17:32
alkisgIt depends on who the maintainer is, how active he is, how "ready" the bugs are (e.g.if they include a .patch etc)...17:32
NginUSMy script won't run commands past this one point. But if I put those commands in another script & call it from the first one before it hangs (with sleep 10 so it's on time), those commands will run. amarok --debug only gives me this one useless line17:35
waltmanIf bug reports are going to sit for months or years at a time without even getting their status changed to "confirmed", what's the point of even having it? I feel like the time I spent filing those reports was wasted.17:35
alkisgThere's the 10% where it's helpful to file bugs on launchpad17:35
alkisgSome projects have their code hosted in launchpad, it's upstream for them17:36
alkisgSome things are actually ubuntu-specific, in debian/patches of the  ubuntu package17:36
waltmanso you're telling me that 90% of the time it's a waste?17:36
alkisgSome things are unclear where they belong, and they should be reported in launchpad first, and forwarded later as the maintainers direct17:36
alkisgThat's my experience. I don't think any Ubuntu dev will admit that though.17:36
alkisgTo me, it's a waste of user and developer resources, as they are directed to wrong places17:37
waltmanAnd what if the maintainers don't even acknowledge the bug reports?17:37
alkisgWhat if there are no ubuntu maintainers?17:37
alkisgFrom 50000 packages, I don't think more than 1000 have active ubuntu maintainers17:37
waltmanHow can I tell?17:37
alkisgIt's best to try to locate where to file the bug. If you don't know, use launchpad17:37
alkisgIf you go to github and find the line in the .conf, use github, the upstream bug tracker17:38
linux_userHow does one request that a new variant of software be built for an Ubuntu package?17:38
scatterpalkisg i am just getting a black screen i think ineed to install kde or something specific will try that17:38
linux_user(say for Hercules S390 emulator)17:38
eelstreboris there any advantage to using click? looks like it's a security feature?17:38
alkisgscatterp: it allows for running a specific command, session, even xterm17:39
alkisgscatterp: they have a wiki page with extensive information17:39
scatterpalkisg i tried with a terminal but no luck17:39
waltmanis launchpad just for ubuntu, or is it also used by debian?17:40
oerheks!sru | linux_user see this manual for request a package17:40
ubottulinux_user see this manual for request a package: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates17:40
wedgiewaltman: i have no idea what the process is, but maybe look into becoming the maintainer for fail2ban. Not sure if you have the time, skills, or desire for that, but it would be one way to solve the delimma for that one package at leaset17:40
alkisgwaltman: launchpad is not used by "debian". It is used by some upstream packages though, that are also shipped in debian. So in some cases it's an upstream bug tracker.17:40
alkisgFor example, we develop ltsp in  launchpad, and then distros like debian, ubuntu, opensuse etc ship it. So we want the bugs to be reported in launchpad, as we don't use e.g. github or anything else.17:41
waltmanI guess I assumed that these packages all had maintainers, and that they would see the bug reports filed against them on launchpad. If that's not the case, I'm not really seeing the point of launchpad.17:41
alkisgwaltman: read the 3 reasons I listed above why launchpad is useful17:42
waltmanIs this relationship documented anywhere?17:42
alkisgThe bad thing is that people don't realize what you just said, that it's not for *everything*, and waste time for actions that shouldn't happen there17:42
akikwaltman: it's not specific to ubuntu. my bug report for docker-ce got the same treatment17:42
oerhekswaltman, you could help the team, lots of simular issues https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apcupsd/+bugs >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apcupsd/+bug/66081617:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 660816 in apcupsd (Ubuntu) "apcupsd is not launched" [Undecided,New]17:42
oerheksso if you add those likely simular bugs to yours, it might help, check version numbers and such17:43
daxwaltman: Launchpad is just for Ubuntu. Debian has their own bugtracker etc.17:43
daxwaltman: some Debian folks keep an eye on Launchpad, but it's not an "official" thing17:43
dax(just like some upstreams do)17:43
alkisgdax: that's not true. I'm upstream for ltsp, and I accept upstream bugs in launchpad.17:44
alkisgNot everyone uses github17:44
alkisgLaunchpad is (1) for some upstreams, (2) for some ubuntu packages, (3) for cases when we don't know where to start17:44
daxalkisg: the "just for Ubuntu" was in the context of their question "just for ubuntu, or is it also used by debian"17:44
daxI'm well aware that other projects use it too. Debian does not (officially), which was my point.17:45
waltmanIf the ubuntu-bug command lots to launchpad, it's not unreasonable to assume that launchpad is where bug reports go.17:45
alkisgdax, I think now waltman got to the other point, thinking that launchpad is useless, which clearly isn't17:45
waltmanI think this relationship should be documented somewhere.17:45
daxwaltman: Ubuntu maintainers should be forwarding bug reports or telling users how to do so after reviewing the bug report.17:45
daxThe whole point of distros having their own bugtrackers is so that maintainers can make sure it's not some distro-specific change causing issues before sending users upstream17:46
daxsince upstreams tend to get *very* annoyed about that sort of thing17:46
alkisgIndeed, but there aren't maintainers for all packages, or they don't have time for all bugs, which is why when someone knows it's an upstream bug, he should report it there17:46
daxthat said, Ubuntu's QA and bug handling is... interesting at times17:46
wedgiethe fali2ban bug that he linked doesn't look like an upstream issue17:47
skinuxI installed the new Ubuntu Gnome desktop, now when I try to select Gnome desktop, that area of login disappears.17:50
skinuxHow do I configure that using a configuration file?17:50
scatterpalkisg i did sudo apt-get install lxde from ssh terminal and i have set the xgo to connect as a normal non root user lxde 800x600 with sound enabled is that correct ?17:53
dongcarlJust got an Ubuntu VPS, was wondering what the difference between admin and sudo group is in terms of convention. I wanna setup an account that can use sudo, and in Arch I'd normally place it in wheel, but it seems like the default sudoers file doesn't have wheel as a default line, I'm assuming it's a different convention/17:55
dongcarlFound the answer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Privileges#Use_sudo_to_administer_the_system17:57
scatterpalkisg "unable to execute startlxde" error i will try another windows manager...17:57
skinuxWhen I try to select a different desktop environment, the area just goes blank dark grey. How do I fix this?18:05
arnoudOkey source is a a shell builtin. I am wondering how I can call: source .env from a crontab? It says source not found.18:08
thepardoxer02i have previously installed ubuntu with 14.04 version18:11
thepardoxer02with 32 bit, now i am updating my distro version to 16.0418:12
thepardoxer02will the updated version be of 64 bit or 32 bit ?18:12
scatterpalkisg "unable to execute startlxde" with lxde , with gnome it just closes says "session terminated" , with terminal i get "the connection with the remote server was shutdown please check the state of your connection" only with icewm do i get a screen i want to get the default ubutnu system i can run it via typeing lightdm with vnc ...18:12
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, it should upgrade properly to 32bit.  Is your computer actually 32bit?18:14
thepardoxer02nope i have 64 bit computer18:15
thepardoxer02but it support 32 bit too18:15
Apachezwhat about a 128 bit computer?18:15
thepardoxer02Apachez: asking me ?18:16
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, why run 32bit?  Are you low on RAM?18:16
daxApachez: that isn't helpful18:16
daxthepardoxer02: if you are upgrading a 32-bit install, it will still be 32-bit after the upgrade. if you want it to be 64-bit, you would have to re-install18:17
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: i was in urgent need of a distro to install in my computer, one of my friend has 32 bit so i installed it18:17
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, how much RAM do you have?18:17
thepardoxer02now i want to make it 64 bit18:17
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: i have 8 gb of ram18:18
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, oh, then yes, you'll need to reinstall18:18
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: can't i just update or upgrade ?18:18
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, no, you can't in-place upgrade from 32bit to 6418:18
lordcirth_workThat's not an update, that's a complete architecture change18:19
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: can i upgrade it without using bootable pendrive or any other media18:19
thepardoxer02just like running the setup18:20
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, you need some sort of media - you can in theory debootstrap or something into another partition, but I wouldn't18:20
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: i found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/409584/upgrading-ubuntu-12-04-32-bit-to-64-bit18:21
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lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, yes, as they say, just reinstalling is simpler18:22
alkisgscatterp: I'm using it with mate, I only had to select mate in the options, nothing more18:23
scatterpalksig so install mate then try again ?18:23
thepardoxer02lordcirth_work: i have iso file, can i just mount it and install ?18:25
Apachezdax: technically an ubuntu installation should be able to switch over to 64bit18:26
Apachezarch=amd6418:26
Apachezdist-upgrade18:26
Apachezand reboot18:26
daxApachez: lots of things are technically possible. significantly fewer things, including that, are supported or recommended.18:26
daxi've done my fair share of ridiculous apt things in my time, but i don't suggest them here18:27
Apachezof course its easier and probably less troublesome to start from beginning18:28
Apachezsame with do-relase-upgrade vs wipe the drive and start over18:29
daxdo-release-upgrade at least has the benefit of being officially supported, unlike arch changes :)18:29
lordcirth_workthepardoxer02, you have to boot the iso18:30
skinuxWhat causes the desktop selector area to not come up??18:38
scatterpalksig mate seems to be running but i cant determine exactly the resolution it doesnt seem to be very high it says xrandr is to old ??18:38
DigitalisAkujinCan someone please tell me how to completely disable/remove apparmor?18:42
leftyfbnope18:43
leftyfbbecause you stuck around for exactly 13 seconds18:44
rfleming:|18:44
daxi like to think it's because they figured it out with Google *nod*18:45
rflemingmore like 1618:45
daxmakes me less annoyed18:45
rflemingbtu yeah18:45
compdocDigitalisAkujin, dont think apparmor is enabled by default18:45
daxit is, for some stuff18:45
leftyfbcompdoc: the joke was, they left18:45
compdocyou need some new material18:46
nbusroneWhat is the best backup method to backup partition on a preinstall OS with oem partition ? 4 primary partition but exclude the OS.Only backup the bootloader + OEM partition , recovery partition another ?18:47
compdocI use clonezilla. can clone to another drive, or to a network share18:48
oerhekstry clonezilla, nice gui.18:48
akikwhat is oem partition?18:49
nbusronesome search recommend on backup using clonezilla ? But if I just wanted to backup 3 out of 4 partition , will I able to restore all 3 of them and even recover the OS from preinstall OS recovery ?18:49
oerheksno guarantee, you should ask that in the vendor or os channel18:51
nbusroneakik : healthy (OEM) partition or EISA Partition.It's preinstall from laptop manufacturer , an old windows vista OS.18:51
lordcirth_worknbusrone, ask on #clonezilla18:54
nbusroneI but hard , somehow it looks like already partition with 4 primary .I plan to backup 3 of them left out the OS which takes about over 100GB.So adding all 3 partition is just less than 40GB.Making sure after restoring from clonezilla , I am able to recovery back the OS where there's no OS disc and only came with recovery partition.18:54
nbusronelordcirth_work: ok thanks :)18:54
akiknbusrone: i never learned to use those partitions. can you boot off them if your boot loader is broken?18:59
alkisgscatterp: run `xrandr` to see the resolutions, and `xrandr -s 1920x1080` to set them. Or, resize your window.19:01
skinuxWhat do I do then the DE switcher won't show up?19:01
scatterpalkisg yes got it with that its a bit strange i run teamviewer and it says it has no internet and wants a proxy anyway it seems to work with a good resoloution i would like to understand how and why but my question now is how to get it to run the regular 16.04 ubuntu desktop...19:03
akikscatterp: it doesn't support unity19:03
akikscatterp: https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:de-compat19:04
leftyfbskinux: desktop selector? You mean the little icon next to your name at the login screen?19:05
skinuxYeah, I click it and the login area turns into a dark blue background or something like that.19:06
leftyfbskinux: what DE's did you install?19:06
skinuxI installed Gnome from PPA19:06
leftyfbwhich PPA?19:06
skinuxFor Gnome 3 to work on 16.04.319:06
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leftyfbskinux: yeah, which PPA?19:07
skinuxSomeone in here gave me a link maybe an hour ago19:07
leftyfbskinux: as I told you, gnome-shell is already included in Ubuntu and I did tell you NOT to use that PPA after the fact19:07
skinuxOh, I missed that then19:07
leftyfbskinux: you should ppa-purge that ppa you added19:08
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codelinxquestion: what is a possibly recommended frontend to use to build a gui that can send commands to a linux box? any ideas …19:09
ioriacodelinx,  details ?19:10
codelinxi actually need a webapp19:14
codelinxframework19:14
limbo_I can't get ethereumwallet to run on 17.10 on the GNOME DE. segfaults immedietly.19:14
limbo_It worked when I first tried it in unity.19:14
codelinxi want to produce a frontend interface to that has sudo or bin access to certain commands without having the user login to the systems19:14
limbo_any ideas?19:14
codelinxand send output to the webapp/page19:14
nacccodelinx: you want unautheticated root access to a system over the web??19:15
nacclimbo_: is that an ubuntu package?19:16
scatterpalkisg is says that the unity from 12.x ubuntu is supported but newer versions are not supported is there a way to install that supported version on 16.04 (i cant downgrade for other reasons)19:16
scatterpanyone else know how to install unity 12.x version on ubuntu 16.04 ?19:16
limbo_nacc: no, it's from a third party.19:17
nacclimbo_: i would contact said third party then19:17
codelinxnacc: not unauthenticated …. i.e. user clicks button that is [df -h] or they can type in something like (Text field)[cat /var/log/some/log.file | head -n50 ]19:17
alkisgscatterp: desktops that require 3d don't work well over the network. VNC would work, but again I don't think it would work on a virtual desktop, it would need the emulated cirrus.19:18
codelinxnacc: some of the commands will be sudo’ed some are regular commands …19:18
nacccodelinx: right "sudo'ed" how?19:18
nacccodelinx: also, it sounds like you're inventing tools that already exist19:18
codelinxgive the webapp possible sudo access to limited commnds that can be access from a webpage ...19:18
nacccodelinx: so ... you *do* want to have unauthenticated root :)19:19
limbo_codelinx: you can use setuid on specific binaries, if you want. Or add the webserver user to the sydoers group.19:19
limbo_codelinx: both are probably bad ideas.19:19
codelinxlimbo_: yea… i know i was wondering possibly if there was something more controlled.19:20
akikcodelinx: use ssh keys for authentication and build on top of that19:20
limbo_codelinx: what do you want to do, specifically?19:20
limbo_what would the webserver user need root permissions for?19:21
codelinxlimbo_: first allow the user to run specific commands and view output/logs of said command19:21
skinuxOkay, I removed most of the packages from the PPA. Now I'm installing Ubuntu Studio, I figure it'll have Gnome.19:22
limbo_codelinx: can the webserver not run those binaries as is?19:23
limbo_codelinx: If it's a file access problem, you can modify your access control lists or the readability of the files.19:23
codelinxeventually we want the users to be able to pass commands19:23
limbo_commands?19:25
limbo_nacc: already did, zero assistance.19:26
scatterpalkisg will continue in the #x2go channel for now thanks for the help you really saved me thanks!19:26
nacclimbo_: well, presumably it's a bug in their code when on gnome or wayland19:26
FrostCandyAnyone lose DNS after latest update? :) 2 servers lots access to internet because of /etc/resolv.conf. I added nameserver 8.8.8.8 instead of what was there ( nameserver 127.0.0.53 ) but this isn't a permanent fix. Is there a better fix ?19:26
scatterpalkisg i was thinking unity from 12.x with unity-2d installed19:26
skinuxCan anyone tell me if Gambas3 is worth learning? I mean is it really a nice and powerful language? Also does it fully support Windows?19:27
FrostCandyUbuntu 17.04 - server version19:28
nbusroneordcirth_work : the channel #clonezilla mention "This is not an official Clonezilla"19:28
lordcirth_workskinux, considering it's based on BASIC, my first thought would be "noooo"19:28
lordcirth_worknbusrone, yes.  But did they help?19:28
codelinxlimbo_: lets say we have box a, box b, box r. I want the users to be able to see which processes are running. next I would like for users to get a list of execiutables they can access and. be able to run an exectuable from this web app without having to login to the systems directly. make sense kind of?19:29
iorianope19:30
lordcirth_workcodelinx, why do they need to run executables?19:30
oerhekswithout having to login to the systems directly .. magic?19:31
codelinxjust an idea19:31
lordcirth_workcodelinx, if you need them to be able to run bash commands, you should give them ssh keys.19:31
codelinxoerheks: the webapp will be their channel …19:31
nacccodelinx: i'm not convinced you're solving an actual problem :)19:31
codelinxnacc: you may be right :D19:32
nbusronelordcirth_work : haven't tried  yet since I though it's not an official channel with less than 15 active user :(19:32
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lordcirth_worknbusrone, well there's no harm in trying.  You could also try #windows19:33
nbusronelordcirth_work : ok thanks again :)19:38
PomidoraI don't have an insert key or a middle mouse button... Is there a command I can use to paste from the x clipboard?19:39
skinuxOkay. I got it fixed. Login into plain Gnome. Now, I gotta get used to desktop all over again.19:41
skinuxAnyone know why they changed the menus to Activities, which just brings up a thin panel?19:41
compdocsounds like a bare gnome desktop19:42
oerheksit is called activities for years, gnome319:43
compdocI install a minimal ubuntu server, then a minimal mate desktop and x2go. then use ubuntu and windows to log in. works great19:44
chudakcan someone point me to reliable link ow to install "dummy" display drive under 16.04 ?19:52
oerheksxvfb19:52
pennTellerHi guys, can anybody suggest a way of making native ubuntu programs that are touch? I would like to get as close to the metal as possible19:56
akikchudak: i saw this guide today here. it's for 14.04 but should work on 16.04 too https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in/463000#46300019:56
skinuxoerks: I haven't used the Gnome desktop for years. I was using Unity, switched to Cinnamon, and I just now changed back to Gnome.19:58
naccpennTeller: "touch"? "metal"?19:58
pennTellernacc, yes touch, as in using a touchscreen. Close to the metal I mean without to much overhead, ideally interacting directly with the OS19:59
naccpennTeller: why should your app care if it's using the touchscreen or not? it's abstracted by the windowing system anyways to an input device19:59
pennTellernacc, how would I do five-finger touch gestures with a mouse? Ideally, if you are making an app exclusively for touch, it should know about it.20:01
chudakakik: I did it twice and ubuntu won't boot up (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322111) that's why asking20:01
naccpennTeller: so you want an exclusive to touchscreen app?20:01
pennTellernacc, yes exactly20:01
naccpennTeller: that wasn't at all obvious to me from what you asked, sorry20:02
pennTellernacc, my apologies20:02
naccseems like a very narrow, not particularly useful to ubuntu thing (given the state of touchscreen on Linux)20:02
naccpennTeller: but it does seem possible20:02
akikchudak: who are you on ubuntuforums? maybe you should wait for replies there20:02
naccpennTeller: might want to talk to the desktop folks20:02
pennTellernacc, thank you, I asked but no answer :(20:03
naccpennTeller: yeah, it's also friday, etc20:04
pennTellernacc, lol good point, thanks for answering I will keep sarching20:04
pennTellerIn case anybody is wondering, it seems like Clutter is the answer20:06
lordcirth_workPomidora, 'man xclip'20:06
bumbar__having trouble running mariadb on ubuntu 17.10, it's taking forever to (re)start, and if it does, it shuts down after a while20:06
krypto_does anyone know if it's possible to have nautilus always running? watching syslog it seems like gnome stops the service after a little while but i'd like it to persist.. any ideas?20:10
nacckrypto_: nautilus, the gui filesystem browser?20:13
krypto_nacc: right.. previously on Unity I'd be able to run nautilus -n at bootup (start hidden), the process would persist regardless if Files was open or not. In Gnome, it doesn't seem to have the similar behavior because dbus and gapplication-service are controlling it20:15
nacckrypto_: ah, i'm not sure, sorry20:15
krypto_nacc: no worries thx anyways20:16
auronandacekrypto_: i think on unity Nautilus was used to control the desktop items so it would need to be running all the time anyway20:16
krypto_i see20:17
rflemingAnyone get LUKS and TPM to work yet?20:24
rfleming(work together)20:25
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john_ramboHow do I install package "hal" ? https://paste2.org/ef33BYJ020:26
naccjohn_rambo: what version of ubuntu?20:27
naccjohn_rambo: it does not exist anymore in ubuntu20:27
john_rambonacc: 16.0420:27
john_rambonacc: 16.04 "Package hal is not available, but is referred to by another package" what is that another package ?20:28
naccjohn_rambo: right20:29
naccdoesn't exist anymore20:29
naccjohn_rambo: why do you need it?20:29
john_rambonacc: to restore packages from aptoncd20:29
naccjohn_rambo: i don't follow20:30
naccjohn_rambo: you need hal for aptoncd to work?20:30
john_rambonacc: Yes20:30
arbitrarystring /quit20:30
naccjohn_rambo: why is that hte case?20:30
naccjohn_rambo: it's nont listed as a dependency20:31
oerheksHAL is gone since 10.04 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_(software)#Deprecated20:34
robertfthank you for your help ..... akik20:34
akikrobertf: i wasn't actually sure what you meant to do :)20:35
naccoerheks: yeah the package was still in 12.04, but nothing more recent20:38
ZSkyIs npm installed by default on ubuntuN?20:47
ZSky*ubuntu20:47
naccZSky: no20:47
jvelasquezIf I undefined VM's,  can I delete their images in /var/lib/libvirt/images ?20:53
compdocjvelasquez, sure. make sure you dont want them20:54
jvelasquezssweet. thank you.20:54
compdocI store the images on seperate hdd/sdd drives20:54
compdocyou use virt-manager? you can delete them from the gui too20:55
jvelasquezcompdoc, I havn't been able to run virt-manager yet.20:58
jvelasquezis there some reason why when I try to create a 30GB disk VM, I still only see 8.6GB ?20:58
compdocdepends on the type of file21:00
compdocis it qcow2?21:00
jvelasquezI have no idea.21:00
jvelasquezyep.  QEMU QCOW Image (v3), 8589934592 bytes21:01
auronandacejvelasquez: some VM's are dynamically sized so it will only take up as much room as it needs21:01
compdocyou can use 'raw' if you want it to be 30GB of empty space21:01
judohippois there a way to upgrade from 15.10 to 17.10?21:01
auronandacejudohippo: 15.10 has been end of life for quite sometime now21:02
judohippo@auronandace yea...I've been neglectful21:02
auronandacejudohippo: short answer is no, best install afresh21:03
krypto_unless you wanna be a regular around the irc channel i'd probably opt for a fresh install also21:03
judohipponuts.21:04
Bashing-om!EOL | judohippo A long hard road time and bandwidth !21:04
ubottujudohippo A long hard road time and bandwidth !: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:04
krypto_you should definitely use clonezilla and make a nice clone of your current setup so you could restore if you ever have regrets21:04
jvelasquezcompdoc,  wait.  if I use raw,  do I need an unparitioned space to put it on ?21:06
jvelasquezcause then I'd need to find more 2.5" brackets21:06
compdocjvelasquez, no, it needs to be partitioned. id recommned ext421:07
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fusa24anyone else experiencing slow down using wayland in 17.10?  Xorg seems to be ok, but with wayland mouse cursor will freeze up for a second randomly21:09
krypto_fusa, have the same experience with wayland on 17.10 for months. games stutter lag and mouse input lag, still on Xorg for now21:10
fusa24ok21:11
krypto_i have an amd gpu though, not sure if related21:11
fusa24thanks, wasnt sure if its on my end or just compatability21:11
fusa24yeah mine is amd21:11
akikkrypto_: there's a bug report about  it21:12
krypto_hmm, yeah. open source drivers?21:12
fusa24have you installed amdgpu drivers?21:12
krypto_ok good to know21:12
fusa24using open source drivers, amdgpu drivers give me problems at install21:12
krypto_are you using a PPA like padoka or oibaf?21:13
fusa24from dms website21:13
fusa24amd website21:13
krypto_yeah those are the proprietypppppp21:14
krypto_whoops21:14
krypto_proprietary drivers21:14
fusa24they will install but when i reboot, will see text from boot and mouse cursor, but cant interact21:14
krypto_you might be in an in-between state right now with your graphic drivers21:16
fusa24ok21:16
akikkrypto_: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74503221:16
ubottuGnome bug 745032 in wayland "Mouse Tracking 'Laggy' on Wayland, and mouse movements cause frame drops in other OpenGL applications" [Normal,New]21:16
krypto_ah, yes that's my exact issue.. thanks21:17
fusa24looks same as my issue too21:19
krypto_reported back in 2015 lol21:20
fusa24:(21:20
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Jordan_UAny recommendations for software for a school bell system? Just needs to play sounds (our school's PA system is connected to the computer) at the right times (to signal the beginning/end of blocks), and be configurable by less tech savvy people (so cron + mplayer is not a usable solution). Should be able to have 1 schedule for Monday-Thursday and another for Friday (having to configure 4 identical days21:33
Jordan_Ufor mon-thursday would be less than ideal, but still OK), and the ability to change things for one odd day every once and a while without losing the normal presets.21:33
PirolocitoJordan_U: why dont you use cron+mplayer but for the frontend you make a simple gambas software21:44
jvelasquezohh wow. this virt-manager made things so much easier.21:44
krypto_virt-manager is awesome21:45
Jordan_UPickledEggs: Because I doubt that I could make a very good GUI in a short amount of time, and I don't think my boss wants to pay me a lot of money to develop new software if it can be avoided.21:52
naccJordan_U: meant for Pirolocito ?21:53
Jordan_Unacc: Indeed, thanks.21:53
Jordan_UPirolocito: Because I doubt that I could make a very good GUI in a short amount of time, and I don't think my boss wants to pay me a lot of money to develop new software if it can be avoided.21:54
HorribleProgramHey #ubuntu. Quick question. How would I make a vnc server start at startup?21:56
HorribleProgramdo I edit some shell script to run the program?21:57
PirolocitoJordan_U: the ui for that takes less time than your time searching for a software.... it is basically buttons and calls to command line21:58
DaddyEricGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="consoleblank=0"21:58
Pirolocito:)21:58
DaddyEricis that corect for disabling the console screensave blanking?21:58
DaddyEricor do the quotes have to be removed?21:58
HorribleProgramwhat scripts are executed on startup21:59
enavCan somebody help me? I made this redirect in my .htaccess file --> Redirect 302 /2011/05/page/2 https://www.example.com/22:03
enavI dont know what im doing wrong, I expect it to redirect to --> https://www.example.com/ but im getting redirect here https://www.example.com//page/222:03
mellowmaroonHi, does anyone know whether the compatibility between the AMDGPU OSS driver, the POLARIS 12 chipset, and Ubuntu 17.10?22:05
mellowmaroonI found this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver, but this only lists 16.04 and 17.0422:06
Jordan_UDaddyEric: Are you following a particular guide? If you're editing your /etc/default/grub then anything between the quotation marks will be passed as kernel parameters at boot, so GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="whatever kernel parameters you want"      You do want to keep the quotes, as they're needed if you want to pass more than one kernel parameter (otherwise the second and subsequent words will be lost to shell22:07
Jordan_Usplitting). You probably don't want to remove other kernel parameters that may already be there.22:07
DaddyEricok yeah i only want to pass that one22:07
wellickhi, how can I check my pc specs on ubuntu?22:08
HorribleProgram wellick: arch22:08
Jordan_Umellowmaroon: If it works in Ubuntu 17.04 then it's safe to assume that it will also work in 17.10, unless you have some reason to suspect otherwise.22:08
mellowmaroonJordan_U: I'm using AMDGPU-PRO on 16.04, following AMD guidelines22:08
bcowanwellick: with inxi22:08
mellowmaroonJordan_U: I'm also an ArchLinux expat in this instance, I ran into a bug with it on there22:09
mellowmaroonwellick: You can also use lshw, I think.  That gives you a lot of info though22:10
mellowmaroonwellick: And I dont think it's installed by default22:10
wellickmellowmaroon: yes. it's a bit confusing though, I was looking into something more noob friendly22:11
wellickmaybe GUI based22:11
mellowmaroonwellick: Right, kinda like Speccy on Windows.  You could take a look here: https://alternativeto.net/software/speccy/?platform=linux22:13
bcowanI would highly recommend inxi22:13
HorribleProgramwellick: arch is extremely informative22:14
wellickisn't Arch a distro?22:14
HorribleProgramno a command22:14
pavloswellick: you could install hardinfo22:14
HorribleProgramhello, does a router use the hostname or mac address to determine whether to assign it a static or dynamic ip address?22:16
wellickpavlos: no longer developed22:16
naccHorribleProgram: not sure which version of arch you're referring to, but afaict, it just prints out `uname -m`22:16
naccHorribleProgram: and that last question doesn't seem like an ubuntu support topic22:16
HorribleProgramnacc: how much more do you need to know about a system?22:17
naccHorribleProgram: wellick asked for their 'specs'.22:17
naccHorribleProgram: please don't troll in response to user questions.22:17
HorribleProgramfine22:17
wellicknaac: yeah, that got me confused.22:17
naccwellick: yes, sorry for that.22:18
wellickno problem22:18
scatterphi how can i install GNOME 3.6: with “GNOME Fallback Mode” in ubuntu 16.04 ? i am trying to connect with x2go and would like to see something like https://i.stack.imgur.com/2ZSMr.png22:18
HorribleProgramwellick: anyways, what's wrong with using Inxi?22:18
wellickI read there was Sysinfo on ubuntu, but I can't find it22:18
HorribleProgramwellick: do you want a command line or GUI tool?22:18
wellickit comes installed with the system?22:19
pavloswellick: inxi -F gives you plenty22:19
smhoyoHello, I am having some issues with my USB WiFi device. It is a Linksys AE1200, and has no native linux driver, but after reading some forus is should be possible to use ndiswrapper to use the xp driver. However the ones I have seen have been on ubuntu 14.04, and I am on 16.04. If I run ndiswrapper -l I get the following output bcmwlhigh5 : driver installed device (13B1:0039) present (alternate driver: brcmfmac) , but when I run iwcon22:19
smhoyoDoes any of you know anything about how I can get this to work? Alternatively how where I can find more information about this?22:19
smhoyoI have an internal nic which works, but it does not support monitor mode, so I was hoping this USB nic might have it.22:19
HorribleProgramsmhoyo: pastebin longer than 3 lines plz22:19
wellickalright i'm gonna try inxi.22:19
smhoyoHorribleProgram: oh, sorry22:19
HorribleProgramwellick: no, sadly22:20
mellowmaroonsmhoyo: You can get a second opinion if you like, but you're fighting an uphill battle with ndiswrapper...22:20
scatterpHorribleProgram a mac address22:20
mellowmaroonsmhoyo: I would look at getting a USB dongle that supports monitor mode22:21
scatterpsmhoyo have you tried using a driver for an older usb dongle sometimes there not so diffrent22:21
HorribleProgramscatterp: yeah, figured, it's unique22:21
smhoyomellowmaroon: yeah, Thing is I believe this USB dongle actually supports it, but I cant get the dongle to actually work at all in linux22:21
smhoyomellowmaroon: yeah, Thing is I believe this USB dongle actually supports it, but I cant get the dongle to actually work at all in linux22:22
smhoyoscatterp: nope I havent, Are there any good resources for such drivers?22:22
smhoyoI actually also have a thirs USB dongle, which I am unsure if it supports onitor mode. This one actually shows up in wxconfig and ifconfig, but It does not show up in iw list, so I cannot assert wether it supports monitor mode or not.22:23
scatterpsmhoyo if i was you i would google for a list of linksys usb dongle drivers for windows try to figure out a history which device did they make before that and then try that driver one sec i will try for you22:23
smhoyoHowever if I try to run airmon-ng start <id> it does not work though22:23
smhoyoAh, scatterp and then just do the same procedure with ndiswrapper on the older driver from windows?22:24
bcowanIs this #ubuntu or wpacracking 10122:25
smhoyohaha22:25
scatterpsmhoyo no one sec22:25
scatterpsmhoyo RT3572USB try with this driver22:25
smhoyoSorry if I am asking in the wrong channel here :p22:25
smhoyoscatterp: Thank you very much I will try that ! :)22:26
scatterpalso you can try this https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211#Installation22:30
smhoyoscatterp: I am not able to find that adriver anywhere, did you have a source for it?22:32
scatterpnot really no22:32
scatterpsorry22:32
scatterpyou might have to compile it from scratch your trying to do something very advanced a simple way is ebay the adapator buy another one22:33
smhoyono worries, I'll look around ^^22:33
scatterphow can i install GNOME 3.6: with “GNOME Fallback Mode” in ubuntu 16.04 ? i am trying to connect with x2go and would like to see something like https://i.stack.imgur.com/2ZSMr.png22:33
smhoyoscatterp: yeah, one is already on its way from ebay :p22:33
smhoyoBut I just wanted to see if I could get it to work, but it doesn't look promising hehe22:34
scatterpsmhoyo maybe this sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer22:34
smhoyobut the iw list command should list all nic's listed in the iwconfig page, should it not?22:34
scatterpnot nessasarily no your doing buggy stuff...22:35
smhoyohehe aight22:35
scatterpi would simply connect with no wep or wpa to start with then work on that advanced stuff22:35
scatterpsmhoyo maybe this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96700/equivalent-of-iwlist-to-see-who-is-around not sure22:36
scatterpok going to sleep gn all22:36
HorribleProgramHello, if the script that started a program ends, does the program end?23:04
HorribleProgramHello, how do you reverse-dns lookup?23:05
compdoca program follows a script. if the script ends the program, it ends.23:05
HorribleProgramcompdoc: hey, wait what?23:06
LoshkiHorribleProgram: when a script starts a program, that program is a child process of the script. There are strict rules about what happens to children and parents when the child dies. Basically, the parent gets notified, and can choose what to do about it.23:09
naccHorribleProgram: the latter is not an ubuntu support topic23:10
naccHorribleProgram: not really sure the former is either, tbh. It depends on the script and how it forks the program.23:11
serasbhi there, i ve some trouble when i try to install ubuntu on my laptop: acer aspire e5-575g-7828 intel core i7-7500u 2.7ghz turbo boost 3.5ghz nvidia geforce 940xm 128gb ssd+ 1tb hdd 8gb ddr4 memory23:21
serasbthe error is23:22
serasb[0.141629] platform MSFT0101:00: failed to claim resource 1: [mem 0xfed40000 -0xfed40fff] [0.141629] acpi MSFT0101:00: platform device creation failed: -16 [4.809398] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 612004 [ IBUS ] [4.810830] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 10ac08 [ IBUS ] [10.206437] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40)23:22
serasbis there somone can help me?23:24
compdochave you done any research?23:24
serasbi vent found nothing can help23:25
serasbi tried23:25
compdocsearch "failed to claim resource 1" and follow suggestions23:25
compdochang out in here, and someone might help you23:29
serasbmaybe ive found something, ill try23:32
energizerDo any of the `pastebinit -b` pastebins work?23:34
energizer(except paste.ubuntu)23:34
energizerthat one is bad23:35
C4rB0nHey, I keep getting the dialog box "System program problem detect". This is a relatively fresh load (I did install some stuff after first boot). I comes up every time I boot the laptop. Is there a way I can find the program that's causing the issue?23:55

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