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| cyberalex4life | Hi guys, I am on Ubuntu Mate Xenial (16.04.3) and I have some issue setting the ssd in fstab. more precisely, / looks like this: 'UUID=e777aaa5-031c-41b9-8082-ffe5f30de7ec / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1' | 08:45 |
| cyberalex4life | but if I add noatime the partition becomes read only | 08:45 |
| gordonjcp | mmm | 08:45 |
| gordonjcp | can you post the fstab entry once you've modified it? | 08:46 |
| cyberalex4life | I should be using some service, right, please remind me which that was | 08:47 |
| gordonjcp | no idea | 08:47 |
| gordonjcp | pretty sure the options column ought to be "default,noatime,errors=remount-ro" | 08:47 |
| cyberalex4life | https://paste.ubuntu.com/25835143/ | 08:48 |
| cyberalex4life | Default root is exactly as I gave you | 08:48 |
| cyberalex4life | I'm gonna try what you said | 08:49 |
| cyberalex4life | rebooting... | 08:50 |
| m4t | erm it's the space in the options column | 09:01 |
| m4t | erm it's the space in the options column | 09:07 |
| m4t | cyberalex4life: | 09:07 |
| m4t | "defaults,noatime" not "defaults, noatime" | 09:07 |
| m4t | fstab is whitespace delimited | 09:07 |
| cyberalex4life | m4t, I understand, this must be it, I became a bit rusty since staying on SuSE Leap (where I have been doing this in the graphical install) | 09:11 |
| m4t | heh | 09:11 |
| m4t | yeah | 09:12 |
| cyberalex4life | thanks guys for quick action! | 09:14 |
| gordonjcp | cyberalex4life: to be honest it's probably not really worth setting noatime | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | cyberalex4life: relatime has been the default for the better part of a decade | 09:48 |
| * m4t still sets it | 09:55 | |
| cyberalex4life | So, using defaults I already have relatime? | 10:09 |
| m4t | yeah. relatime is still a lot of extra iop's though | 10:13 |
| cyberalex4life | I have another question mark (?), This is a brand new ADATA SU700 120 GB (3D NAND), and my disks show some undefined smart attributes and a lot of Uncorrectable errors each time different (some times even with minus), see pictures https://www.dropbox.com/sh/23csag5ply468yh/AAA9hXwoh1UbeEg90pSISkRWa?dl=0 | 10:16 |
| cyberalex4life | Also the Short Self test appears never to end while for the HDD it ends faster | 10:19 |
| cyberalex4life | Do you think there's something bad out there (others complained on samsung SSD for example)? Can I fix this in Linux | 10:24 |
| cyberalex4life | ? | 10:24 |
| m4t | smartmontools (maybe not the gui one you're using) relies on a database of drive names/attribute meanings | 10:25 |
| m4t | probably the program you're using (is it gsmart?) doesn't have that drive in it | 10:26 |
| m4t | you could do 'apt-get install smartmontools' then try 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' or whichever your drive is | 10:27 |
| m4t | if that still shows wrong attributes then do something like: wget 'https://www.smartmontools.org/export/4571/trunk/smartmontools/drivedb.h' | 10:27 |
| m4t | sudo mv /var/lib/smartmontools/drivedb/drivedb.h /var/lib/smartmontools/drivedb/drivedb.h.orig | 10:28 |
| m4t | sudo mv drivedb.h /var/lib/smartmontools/drivedb/drivedb.h | 10:28 |
| m4t | then try again with smartctl -a /dev/sda | 10:28 |
| m4t | i actually recently got a new ssd myself, and not even the latest drivedb.h from smartmontools.org had it listed. i ended up running the manufacturer utility in windows, exporting the smart attributes, then manually adding an entry with the attributes to drivedb.h | 10:30 |
| cyberalex4life | m4t, I understand | 10:47 |
| jrj | YAY - They have fixed the SuperKey for Mate Adv.Menu | 12:21 |
| jrj | Fixed on 17.04 | 12:36 |
| alkisg | Do you mean that now the windows key opens the (advanced) menu? | 12:46 |
| jrj | alkisg: yes | 12:46 |
| alkisg | Nic | 12:46 |
| alkisg | Nice | 12:46 |
| jrj | If you add the Adv.Menu (and remove the standard menu) | 12:46 |
| jrj | Then the default shotcut is SuperKey | 12:46 |
| jrj | In 16.04 it also says it the same hey - it just do not work | 12:47 |
| jrj | However i made a workaround | 12:47 |
| alkisg | Does the standard menu open with the win key? | 12:47 |
| jrj | nope | 12:47 |
| jrj | it opens (stardard) with ALT+F1 | 12:48 |
| alkisg | Eh. They should use the same keys... | 12:48 |
| alkisg | (both alt+f1 and win...) | 12:48 |
| jrj | On 16.04 i used dconf-editor to change the value from the NON-Working default of "Super_L" to manually entered "<Primary>Escape" | 12:48 |
| jrj | alkisg: well they dont | 12:49 |
| alkisg | Ah, maybe the window manager (marco) intercepts super_l in 16.04... | 12:49 |
| jrj | The above "hack" on 16.04 opens the adv.menu with CTRL+ESCAPE | 12:49 |
| jrj | alkisg: that might me it - didnt check that | 12:50 |
| jrj | let me have a look | 12:50 |
| jrj | I can try changing to Compiz and se | 12:50 |
| jrj | That was not it | 12:51 |
| jrj | Ill stick with my CTRL+ESC hotkey until i upgrade to 17.10/18.04 | 12:52 |
| jrj | Looking at "the_googles" alot of people have run into this | 12:53 |
| jrj | But i can live with this | 12:53 |
| erle- | use Gnome®, they said | 12:56 |
| erle- | it's most mature, they said | 12:56 |
| erle- | https://paste.ubuntu.com/25836284/ | 12:56 |
| erle- | one is on KDE, to be fair | 12:57 |
| alkisg | Installing multiple DEs can cause issues | 12:57 |
| jrj | This was also what i wanted to avoid on my new install | 12:58 |
| erle- | test only started Gnome and only logged in a single time, crash came immediately | 12:58 |
| jrj | So basically figure out which DE i wanted _before_ reinstalling to avoid having to install more than 1 | 12:59 |
| erle- | I have to reinstall anyway because I want to switch to btrfs, so I use the opportunity to just test all of them | 13:00 |
| jrj | But i was lucky - i already liked MATE and had onĺy 1 "issue" on 16.04. That have now been fixed in 17.04 and i have a workaround on 16.04 | 13:00 |
| jrj | erle-: sound like sane choice | 13:00 |
| erle- | I will stick with MATE, but I want to know whats up | 13:00 |
| erle- | have not used KDE in ten years | 13:00 |
| jrj | I was also considering testing Ubuntu "Gnome" | 13:00 |
| jrj | but as the Mate is now "fixed" there is no need for me | 13:01 |
| jrj | These MANY choises we have is both a blessing and a curse | 13:01 |
| erle- | I like some things about Gnome, but I hate how they cripple the tools like Nautilus and Gedit | 13:01 |
| erle- | I don't even dislike the Shell | 13:02 |
| jrj | Havent even looked into those | 13:03 |
| gordonjcp | I switched to MATE because they ditched Unity | 13:03 |
| jrj | I thought it was Nautilus and Terminator (on Mate) but its Caja and Mate-Terminal | 13:04 |
| erle- | jrj, have you not noticed the differnece? | 13:11 |
| jrj | erle-: nah, for terminal i just hit the shortcut for launcing it, and have only 1 tab open | 13:12 |
| erle- | Terminals are the same | 13:12 |
| jrj | within that i run TMUX or SCREEN | 13:12 |
| erle- | but Caja vs. Nautilus? | 13:12 |
| jrj | And to be honest - most of my file-handline i do from the command line as well | 13:12 |
| erle- | Last week I had to use Redhat Enterprise Desktop for a few hours, it was really nice | 13:12 |
| erle- | stable and polished | 13:13 |
| erle- | but old | 13:13 |
| erle- | not an option for home computing | 13:13 |
| jrj | erle-: well that is what you get for a corporate desktop | 13:13 |
| jrj | Nothing fancy - it just have to work. Even the Firefox on that is a ESR | 13:13 |
| jrj | I actually think - that aside from the WebBrowsing - i could do fine with just a terminal | 13:14 |
| jrj | My next "testing" would be which editor to use | 13:17 |
| erle- | I got to Gnome because KDE was crashing all the time | 13:17 |
| erle- | 2004 or something | 13:17 |
| jrj | Pluma (as its default on Mate), Gedit, Atom... | 13:17 |
| erle- | I got to Unity because it was easier to do things keyboard only in 2007 (laptop) | 13:17 |
| erle- | I got to Mate because they abused Nautilus | 13:17 |
| jrj | I started with Linux way back | 13:19 |
| jrj | Actually workes for years with FVWM95 as my desktop, then OpenBox ect ect. Then became RHCE, and used a RHEL desktop for a while at work (no problem if you only need a Browser and a terminal) | 13:20 |
| jrj | But then i wanted to swithc to linux at home, and it bacame to much work to get stuff working. Then came Ubuntu, but i really didnt like Unity, i wanted my the Gnome2 experience ive gotten used to | 13:21 |
| jrj | Then had a Run with Mint, Untill MATE came. Then thought, why run a derivative distro, when i can run the source | 13:22 |
| erle- | I had SuSE/KDE in 2001, Gentoo/Gnome in 2004, Ubuntu/Gnome in 2007 and stuck with Ubuntu | 13:22 |
| jrj | Now I just want to cut the time wasted on continuously switching and testing the many choices | 13:24 |
| jrj | Nice to have them - but I think you can easily end up wasting alot of time with miniscule potential gains | 13:25 |
| jrj | Gedit looke really nice | 13:46 |
| jrj | like it alot better than Pluma | 13:46 |
| sergej | привет | 14:40 |
| Menzador | !ru | sergej | 14:50 |
| ubottu | sergej: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 14:50 |
| aphrek_2 | rt | 16:45 |
| cyberalex4life | hello, I will ask probably a well known issues (I think!), why marco on compton does not support alt-tab thumbnails? Is it possible to work? | 19:56 |
| mate|93246 | just onboarded ubuntu mate.. issued it an ip over DHCP.. now I am trying to login over ssh.. what is the username and password ? | 21:19 |
| erle- | there are no default users/passwords | 21:21 |
| mate|93246 | so I can't ssh as my first method to connect to the pi | 21:22 |
| mate|93246 | if thats the case they should do something about that.. now I have to get a screen and keyboard | 21:23 |
| mate|93246 | thanks erle | 22:37 |
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