[00:00] <stavrakis> I get "can't find command 'geometry'".
[00:00] <tomreyn> hmm okay, maybe that's been removed since
[00:01] <tomreyn> stavrakis: but this really means that your system wont be able to boot directly off the sdcard and you need to load the initrd with all sdcard modules from emmc, then the kernel can be loaded from sdcard.
[00:02] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD
[00:03] <stavrakis> tomreyn, so just put the kernel on the emmc?
[00:04] <tomreyn> stavrakis: initrd yes, the kernel can be on the sdcard (or on the emmc)
[00:12] <k_sze> I get gmon.out files in some of my directories for some reason.
[00:15] <stavrakis> tomreyn, since I don't really know what is put into the initrd for it to be ~50MB, is it possible to reduce the size by removing unnecessary modules and maybe using lzma instead of gzip?
[00:20] <JFox762> hi
[00:20] <JFox762> :)
[00:20] <JFox762> I just installed weechat... testing out the IRC client
[00:21] <JFox762> Awesome...
[00:21] <JFox762> I like this
[00:21] <JFox762> clear
[00:26] <cores> Bashing-om: thanks!
[00:26] <Bashing-om> cores: Hope that helps :)
[00:27] <cores> i think it will
[00:27] <cores> it does seem kind of... magical
[00:27] <cores> but i have faith
[00:30] <Bashing-om> cores: Anything sufficiently technologically advanced ... is magic .
[00:47] <energizer> Is it ok if I put "apt autoremove" in root cron?
[00:49] <energizer> or, "can you think of any disasters that will result from this?"
[00:51] <Bashing-om> energizer: Why ? as autoremove is available as a function of unattended-upgrades; Unattended-updates is triggered by a daily cronjob: /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat .
[00:52] <energizer> Bashing-om: oh perfect, thanks
[00:54] <Bashing-om> energizer: :) . See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343732 ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2339387  <- setting up unattended-upgrades .
[00:57] <firef1y> Hey, so I just built my newest PC.
[00:58] <firef1y> Ubuntu is detecting my GPU (NVidia), but not any of the displays attached to it.
[00:59] <firef1y> Any idea what the heck is going on here?
[00:59] <firef1y> I go to "displays", but only the built-in VGA port shows up.
[00:59] <firef1y> but the card is clearly detected when I "lspci".
[01:00] <firef1y> (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS) for reference.
[01:05] <sruli> i have triple boot, lubuntu ubuntu and win, just made an dist-upgrade on the lubuntu and in grub i only get lubuntu, os-prober shows all 3, update-grub does not, what do i do?
[01:21] <skiboy> firef1y: what's your setup?
[01:24] <firef1y> skiboy: NVIDIA 1060 6GB, Supermicro X9DRI-LN4F+, dual Xeon E5-2670.
[01:25] <skiboy> firef1y: what have you done so far, what drivers do you have installed, and are there any relevant logs that you can show us?
[01:25] <firef1y> skiboy: nouveau drivers for now. (I'm operating on liveCD for now)  What logs would you like to see.
[01:26] <skiboy> firef1y: nouveau won't work
[01:26] <firef1y> lspci shows the card as being there, xrandr shows nothing.
[01:26] <firef1y> skiboy: why not?
[01:27] <skiboy> firef1y: You need the closed-source drivers.  Nouveau doesn't play nicely with the new cards that require signed firmware
[01:29] <skiboy> firef1y: Nvidia is the only thing that has ever messed up my system.  Nvidia problems are the least fun to deal with.  I actually came into this channel 2 days ago for a login loop triggered by an Nvidia update
[01:30] <firef1y> skiboy: okay, switching to binary drivers...
[01:31] <skiboy> firef1y: I don't like it either, but we have to use their drivers if we want to use any of the new cards and get any functionality
[01:32] <skiboy> firef1y: You're lucky you don't have to deal with Optimus
[01:37] <firef1y> I'm surprised that it wouldn't even work on at least a VESA-level without the drivers...
[01:40] <skiboy> firef1y: all I know is that nouveau has been having serious problems with the new cards
[01:42] <kLOs> Hi, can someone point me in the right direction? I have an LVM volume mounted at / and it's space is full. on the same harddrive i still have 40g unpartitioned space. how do i add this unpartitioned space onto the lvm volume via command line?
[01:42] <kLOs>  /dev/mapper/xserver--vg-root  5.8G  5.5G   29M 100% /
[01:42] <kLOs> currently looks like this
[01:44] <gogeta> greetings plebs
[01:44] <gogeta> .join #archlinux
[01:44] <gogeta> lol forgot the /
[01:49] <tomreyn> kLOs: since it's /, you'll need to do it while it's not mounted, so from recovery or live media
[01:49] <kLOs> https://www.krenger.ch/blog/linux-lvm-how-to-adding-a-new-partition/
[01:49] <kLOs> just foudn this
[01:49] <kLOs> looks good
[01:49] <kLOs> thanks tomreyn
[01:50] <tomreyn> kLOs: is the encryption layer on top or below the lvm?
[01:50] <kLOs> good question
[01:50] <tomreyn> i.e. do you have a single encrypted LV or are all LVs encrypted as a whole?
[01:52] <kLOs> mhm
[01:52] <kLOs> all done
[01:53] <kLOs> the tutorial above worked
[01:54] <tomreyn> so dmcrypt-luks is below lvm
[01:54] <firef1y> skiboy: I'm now fixing the 20 other issues that I found in the course of fixing the first one.
[01:54] <firef1y> hopefully I'll get the drivers installed soon.
[01:55] <kLOs> seems so tomeryn
[01:55] <kLOs> just rebooted and all good
[01:55] <kLOs> so i guess i'm good
[01:55] <kLOs> thanks tho!
[01:56] <tomreyn> welcome
[01:59] <tomreyn> firef1y, skyboy: you could buy that other companies' hardware instead, who develop an open source driver for linux and whom torvalds has not had reason to raise his special finger for, yet.
[02:05] <skiboy> tomreyn: They aren't commonly used in laptops
[02:06] <skiboy> tomreyn: besides, I need CUDA for Blender
[02:12] <firef1y> tomreyn: One word: CUDA.
[02:33] <dunpeal> Hi. In Ubuntu 16.04, is there any "default" firewall running on vanilla installs?
[02:34] <firef1y> dunpeal: not to my knowledge.
[02:36] <EleanorEllis> dunpeal: The default firewall is iptables but it's not configured to do anything out of the box. You need to setup rules for it using something like ufw
[02:39] <EleanorEllis> Has anyone managed to get ad blocking using dbab and dnsmasq working on a standalone laptop? https://github.com/suntong/dbab
[02:55] <dunpeal> Thanks.
[03:36] <MarkB2> Hello.  I've attached a Velleman K8055 USB I/O device to a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit system.. and it works with libusb and libk8055 installed.
[03:37] <MarkB2> But using the k8055 utility puts an error message into syslog:  usb 5-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbfs while 'k8055' sets config #1
[03:38] <MarkB2> Could someone offer a ..clue.. as to how to get rid of that message?
[03:47] <enav> hello, my wireless mouse freezes for half second every 2 seconds more or less after systems recovers from sleep. I suspect from TLP maybe not sure
[03:47] <cfhowlett> batteries?
[03:47] <enav> cable is plugged
[03:47] <enav> ah sorry
[03:48] <enav> it got new batteries even rechargable batteries
[03:48] <enav> i wonder what i can do debug this
[04:03] <enav> any idea?
[04:04] <enav> i just noticed that is i disconnect the mouse transmitter put the laptop to sleep, wake it up and connect the mouse it works fine again
[04:10] <Jordan_U> enav: Any relevant looking messages in dmesg?
[04:11] <enav> i have no idea what dmesg is
[04:13] <Jordan_U> enav: "dmesg" prints the messages from the kernel's ring buffer, which gives you verbose information about events happening in the kernel and often has useful information when debugging hardware problems.
[04:13] <enav> shall i run that command on CLI ?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> enav: Please run "dmesg" in a terminal and post the output it produces to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com then post the link to the output here.
[04:14] <enav> mouse is working fine right now
[04:14] <enav> let me put the laptop to sleep and wake it up to recreate the issue
[04:14] <enav> brb
[04:18] <enav> http://dpaste.com/3NZ6H92.txt
[04:18] <enav> i copied the bits with red text that seems to be errors
[04:20] <enav> now im supper sure it is TLP
[04:21] <enav> started TLP, put the laptop to sleep and then wakeup, now the mouse works at interval
[04:21] <enav> intervals *
[04:22] <Jordan_U> enav: TLP?
[04:22] <enav> yah TLP this popular battery saving utility
[04:23] <Jordan_U> enav: Do you have this problem when TLP is not running?
[04:23] <enav> im not
[04:23] <enav> seems like TLP turn off the USB ports at short interval
[04:24] <enav> but happens only after wakeup
[04:24] <enav> if i pkill tlp and wake the laptop the issue goes away
[04:32] <enav> just removed tlp and problem is solved
[04:32] <enav> thanks for the help anyways
[04:45] <rhct> Hello everyone.
[04:50] <rhct> Question : I am using ubuntu 14.04 as kvm guest, The interface is having static ipv4/ipv6 and works very well with virtio support, The problem is i am using ipv6 tunnel as well, when i make my tunnel up, the native ipv6 which is configured on eth0, stops working, ipv4 on eth0 is working fine, and if i make the other tunnel down, the native again start working. I have checked routes, which cannot
[04:50] <rhct> be the reason, as both the native ipv6 and tunnel ipv6 have different interfaces.
[06:08] <TheDabMaster> Why not add more versions of VirtualBox besides 5.0 into the Ubuntu repo such as 4.0 5.1 and 5.2?
[06:14] <rhct> Question : I am using ubuntu 14.04 as kvm guest, The interface is having static ipv4/ipv6 and works very well with virtio support, The problem is i am using ipv6 tunnel as well, when i make my tunnel up, the native ipv6 which is configured on eth0, stops working, ipv4 on eth0 is working fine, and if i make the other tunnel down, the native again start working. I have checked routes, which
[06:14] <rhct> cannot be the reason, as both the native ipv6 and tunnel ipv6 have different interfaces.
[06:20] <geek0584> hi everyone... kinda simple question i hope.... i am trying to setup email on my server for my domain... i did the whole setup from digital ocean.com to install postfix... its working however i am looking for something that can be pop3 and accessed from my phone and other devices
[06:21] <geek0584> hrmm no one around?
[06:47] <geek0584> anyone lurking around
[06:50] <geek0584> hi everyone... kinda simple question i hope.... i am trying to setup email on my server for my domain... i did the whole setup from digital ocean.com to install postfix... its working however i am looking for something that can be pop3 and accessed from my phone and other devices
[07:32] <cool_dude> hi how to limit cpu usage for c++ program
[07:32] <cool_dude> any info will be helpful
[07:34] <SwedeMike> cool_dude: limit it in what way?
[07:34] <cool_dude> % of cpu
[07:34] <cool_dude> like i have folder call program
[07:34] <SwedeMike> http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2014/11/04/restricting-process-cpu-usage-using-nice-cpulimit-and-cgroups
[07:35] <cool_dude> in that folder i have c++ program so want that program to use equal to or less then % of cpu
[07:49] <cool_dude> not working
[07:55] <cool_dude> how to kill all process
[07:55] <ikonia> cool_dude: you don't kill all processes
[07:55] <ikonia> cool_dude: what are you actually trying to achieve here
[07:55] <cool_dude> perticular
[07:55] <cool_dude> i have pid
[07:55] <ikonia> what ?
[07:55] <cool_dude> process id
[07:55] <ikonia> how do you want to kill it,
[07:55] <ikonia> the kill command responds to PID
[08:00] <opencw> My system get an Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes after few hours. It's Lubuntu 17.10 with 2 GB ram and 8 GB swap file. Any solutions?
[08:00] <ikonia> sounds like you're just out of ram
[08:01] <ikonia> I suspect something is eating it up quickly and swap is trying to keep it alive until there is nothing left
[08:01] <opencw> do i need a bigger swap?
[08:01] <SwedeMike> opencw: use "top" or similar program to track what programs are using memory. You can also use "free" to check memory usage over time.
[08:01] <ikonia> opencw: no
[08:01] <SwedeMike> opencw: if you run out of 8GB swap with 2GB RAM then something is seriously wrong.
[08:02] <SwedeMike> opencw: find out what's using that memory and if that is normal for that process.
[08:02] <opencw> ok
[08:02] <Ben64> 2GB is just too low for most things
[08:03] <opencw> it has only a emmc flash as drive
[08:03] <SwedeMike> Ben64: well, sure, but we should figure out what the probem is before he goes out and buys more RAM (if his platform is even expandable)
[08:04] <opencw> no can't upgrade :-)
[08:04] <SwedeMike> opencw: if you run things on it that means you use swap a lot, then you're most likely going to kill that emmc flash drive in short time.
[08:04] <opencw> it's an ultrabook
[08:04] <opencw> oh, ok
[08:11] <cool_dude> when use cpulimit command it stucks at like Process 25928 detected
[08:12] <cool_dude> does it take time to cpu limit
[08:12] <cool_dude> ?
[08:12] <ikonia> cool_dude: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[08:12] <cool_dude> i want to limit process
[08:12] <udzguru> hello all. my mysql server won't start anymore. all i get is some mysterious apparmor denied messages. can anyone help?
[08:12] <ikonia> cool_dude: why ?
[08:13] <cool_dude> because it uses 100% cpu
[08:13] <ikonia> cool_dude: what is the process ?
[08:13] <cool_dude> md5sum /dev/zero &
[08:13] <ikonia> cool_dude: grow up
[08:13] <ikonia> cool_dude: what do you think that is going to do
[08:14] <cool_dude> i didn’t understand
[08:14] <ikonia> why are you running a checksum of /dev/zero and backgrounding it
[08:14] <cool_dude> that is example process
[08:14] <skiboy> cool_dude: Please stop trolling.  This is a support channel
[08:14] <ikonia> what is the REAL problem
[08:14] <ikonia> cool_dude: give us the real problem, not an exmple
[08:15] <skiboy> cool_dude: if you want to limit processes, use cgroups
[08:15] <cool_dude> cgroups not working on ubuntu
[08:15] <cool_dude> cgroups is what i most like
[08:15] <ikonia> cool_dude: what is the process you are trying to limit
[08:16] <ikonia> actually, forget it, I'm not interested
[08:16] <cool_dude> just giving command will help you
[08:16] <cool_dude> to understand
[08:16] <ikonia> you gave an incorrect example
[08:16] <ikonia> I asked for the real problem
[08:16] <ikonia> or real context
[08:16] <cool_dude> ./xmr-stak-cpu
[08:16] <ikonia> I'm not intersted
[08:16] <cool_dude> use 100% of cpu
[08:17] <cool_dude> i want to limit it to use 50%
[08:17] <cool_dude> this is the real problem
[08:17] <cool_dude> when try cpulimit it stopped at Process 25928 detected
[08:18] <cool_dude> nice also didn’t work
[08:18] <cool_dude> and when i tried to install cgroups using apt-get install it says no packages
[08:19] <cool_dude> that’s all now who can help me ?
[08:22] <udzguru> can someone explain to me why apparmor suddenly denies to start the mysql server?
[08:22] <ikonia> suddenly ?
[08:23] <udzguru> yeah ... yesterday everything was running smoothly
[08:24] <ikonia> so what have you done to the system since it was last started ?
[08:24] <udzguru> i have done nothing. that's why i call it mysterious!
[08:25] <ikonia> what seems unlikely
[08:25] <udzguru> i can't find any problems in the logs
[08:25] <ikonia> why does apparmor say it's blocking it
[08:25] <udzguru> ok i changed the fstab for some smb-mounts .. i remember ... but that has nothing to do with the mysql server
[08:26] <udzguru> wait ... i will paste the error message
[08:26] <ikonia> so you have changed things
[08:26] <ikonia> what else
[08:27] <udzguru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25842793/
[08:27] <udzguru> that is everything. really
[08:28] <ikonia> mysql community server
[08:28] <ikonia> is that the version that ships with ubuntu ? or from an external repo
[08:28] <udzguru> it is the package you get when installing mysql-server
[08:29] <udzguru> so it is from the repo
[08:29] <ikonia> never seen it referenced as community
[08:29] <udzguru> there are no third party repos active
[08:29] <ikonia> where is your mysql data stored ?
[08:30] <udzguru> i did not change any storage locations on the mysql server
[08:30] <ikonia> where is your mysql data stored ?
[08:30] <udzguru> so probably the default location /var/lib/mysql/ i guess
[08:31] <udzguru> yeah ... just checked
[08:31] <ikonia> run the apparmor error explain plan against the mysql profile
[08:31] <udzguru> how do i do this?
[08:32] <ikonia> not got apparmor here, hang on, I'll have to check the docs
[08:32] <ikonia> (have you checked the apparmor docs)
[08:32] <udzguru> i tried understanding apparmor ... but it is a little cryptic to me to be honest
[08:33] <ikonia> why are you using it then ?
[08:33] <ikonia> just disable it
[08:33] <udzguru> it's there by default ... and probably with a good reason i guess
[08:33] <ikonia> not if you don't know how to use / interact with it
[08:33] <udzguru> well you might be right
[08:34] <ikonia> mysql looks like it's trying to access proc
[08:34] <ikonia> look in the apparmor profile in /etc/apparmor.d and see if the mysql policy allows that
[08:37] <udzguru> the file usr.sbin.mysqld does not contain anything with /proc as far as i can see
[08:38] <ikonia> udzguru: so that may explain why it's being a problem
[08:38] <ikonia> udzguru: have you had any updates applied to the host ?
[08:38] <udzguru> the system is up-to-date
[08:39] <udzguru> and i did not change anything regarding the apparmor profile manually.
[08:39] <udzguru> i looked at the file for the first time today
[08:40] <ikonia> udzguru: it's up to date....when did you apply updates
[08:40] <udzguru> i do that everyday. so yesterday afternoon.
[08:40] <ikonia> so when I asked "what's changed" and you said "nothing"
[08:41] <udzguru> there were no updates available
[08:41] <ikonia> you've a.) changed fstab b.) applied updates
[08:41] <udzguru> so ... no changes since then
[08:41] <ikonia> when did you APPLY updates
[08:41] <ikonia> that means updates happened
[08:41] <udzguru> i think thursday ... there was an update for systemd if i remember correctly
[08:42] <udzguru> i just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade daily
[08:42] <cool_dude> ikonia thanks for so called help
[08:42] <udzguru> yesterday in the evening the server was running just fine.
[08:42] <cool_dude> but that really worked
[08:46] <skiboy> cool_dude: cgroups is a kernel feature, not a package
[08:46] <skiboy> cool_dude: apt search cgroups
[08:46] <cool_dude> but i have to dl cgroups-tools
[08:46] <skiboy> cool_dude: yes
[08:47] <skiboy> cool_dude: and the cgroups daemon
[08:47] <cool_dude> i haven’t did that
[08:48] <cool_dude> necessary ?
[08:48] <ikonia> cool_dude: I told you I wasn't interested, dont be sarcastic
[08:48] <rhct> Question : I am using ubuntu 14.04 as kvm guest, The interface is having static ipv4/ipv6 and works very well with virtio support, The problem is i am using ipv6 tunnel as well, when i make my tunnel up, the native ipv6 which is configured on eth0, stops working, ipv4 on eth0 is working fine, and if i make the other tunnel down, the native again start working. I have checked routes, which
[08:48] <rhct> cannot be the reason, as both the native ipv6 and tunnel ipv6 have different interfaces.
[08:48] <rhct> here is the pastepin link
[08:48] <rhct> https://pastebin.com/qsz23nzM
[08:49] <skiboy> sudo apt-get install cgroup-bin cgroup-lite cgroup-tools cgroupfs-mount libcgroup1
[08:49] <ikonia> udzguru: the server was running ( I suspect ) because between the last time you started it and the time now an apparmor change / mysql change has happened
[08:49] <ikonia> udzguru: apparmor doesn't randomly start to block things - so something must have changed the policy
[08:49] <skiboy> cool_dude: follow this https://askubuntu.com/questions/836469/install-cgconfig-in-ubuntu-16-04
[08:49] <ikonia> or you've changed the config to make the policy not comply
[08:50] <cool_dude> okay
[08:50] <udzguru> yeah the server was running. i did definitvely no changes to apparmor or mysql config.
[08:50] <cool_dude> thanks skiboy
[08:51] <ikonia> udzguru: thats why I asked about updates
[08:51] <udzguru> let me think ... is there a way to see which updates have been installed lately?
[08:52] <ikonia> there is a apt history command
[08:56] <udzguru> these were the last updates that were installed on 2017-10-27: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25842908/
[08:57] <udzguru> so i was right there was an update to systemd
[08:57] <ikonia> something has changed then
[08:58] <ikonia> but either way you have a choice of updating the profile or disabling apparmor
[08:59] <udzguru> ok ... is there any guided way to update such a profile? i already googled for reprofile or reconfigure
[08:59] <ikonia> so you need to add "read" permissoins to /proc looking at your output
[08:59] <ikonia> so you need something like r /proc/ in the mysql profile
[08:59] <udzguru> and i also found out that there is a enforced mode (which mysql seems to be in) and a complain mode
[09:00] <ikonia> thats pretty much what it says on the tin, enforce it, or warn about it
[09:02] <udzguru> i will try to add read to /proc ... gimme a sec
[09:13] <unimatrix9> hi there
[09:16] <unimatrix9> is there a way to slowdown networkmanager at startup ?
[09:17] <udzguru> ikonia, i reprofiled now ... there are no more apparmor errors. but mysql still does not want to come up :(
[09:18] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: why?
[09:20] <unimatrix9> booting from ssd is so fast that it alway's struggles with wifi
[09:21] <unimatrix9> then i have to reset network manager to get it running
[09:21] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: struggles how?
[09:21] <unimatrix9> cant get it up and fails , sometime, not alway's
[09:21] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: put a reset network manager that runs later
[09:22] <unimatrix9> hmm, reset script in sessions , something like that ?
[09:23] <unimatrix9> would be nicer to just slow the startup of the networkmanager a bit..
[09:24] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: i'm not sure how that'd affect other stuff, try first "sudo crontab -e" and add the line @reboot systemctl restart networkmanager
[09:24] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: which ubuntu version is it?
[09:24] <ikonia> udzguru: what does the error state now
[09:24] <ikonia> udzguru: (nice job updating the profile too)
[09:25] <unimatrix9> 1604.3 lts
[09:25] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: ok use that command
[09:26] <udzguru> ikonia, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843022/
[09:26] <udzguru> that's in the syslog
[09:27] <unimatrix9> ok thanks
[09:27] <udzguru> i am currently checking the systemd mysql service file
[09:27] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: no problem
[09:27]  * unimatrix9 afk
[09:28] <udzguru> everything there seems to be fine as far as i can tell
[09:29] <ikonia> udzguru: it seems someone has changed your system
[09:29] <ikonia> udzguru: as the startup argument AND apparmor dont just get changed on their own
[09:30] <ikonia> udzguru: get the systemd startup output too
[09:30] <udzguru> that would be journalctl?
[09:31] <ikonia> yup
[09:32] <udzguru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843049/
[09:32] <udzguru> nothing obvious i would say
[09:33] <udzguru> the INVALIDARGUMENT part irritates me
[09:34] <ikonia> udzguru: always try starting it manually
[09:40] <unimatrix9>  i will be back ;)
[09:40] <udzguru> ikonia, i was just disconnected. sorry.
[09:41] <EriC^^> unimatrix9: ok
[09:43] <demophobia> Can I splitscreen applications in lubuntu?
[09:43] <demophobia> in ubuntu 16.04?
[09:43]  * demophobia reads https://askubuntu.com/questions/586424/how-do-i-display-two-windows-as-split-screen
[09:45] <demophobia> on a laptop, can't get suggested shortcut to work ...
[09:46] <demophobia> found it: super left and super right -- but they overlap!
[09:46] <demophobia> they don't align :(
[09:46] <Sveta> it may help to upload a screenshot of the problem
[09:46] <demophobia> I'm low on cellphone bandwidth for a few days ... I suppose this is good enough for now. Thank you.
[09:50] <udzguru> manually starting the mysql server just brings the same results
[09:51] <udzguru> and systemd seems to be continually trying to start mysql and fails.
[10:01] <doug16k> since upgrade, I can't use windows key for copy/paste/etc when I am remote controlling clients (super-C super-V  D:). is there a way to turn off the gnome desktop keybinds when a specific program has focus?
[10:01] <doug16k> it worked in unity
[10:01] <doug16k> I could have sworn there was something in ccsm but I can't find it anymore
[10:02] <doug16k> rules or something
[10:03] <doug16k> oh, I meant mac clients, and their ridiculous option key which is super on my end
[10:05] <doug16k> gnome seems to entirely take over the super key, not passing it through to the program if it doesn't recognize the combination, which is ridiculous
[10:06] <bazhang> doug16k, are you on 17.10
[10:07] <doug16k> yes
[10:07] <bazhang> doug16k, have you added extensions from the gnome extensions site
[10:07] <doug16k> no, it is all defaults
[10:07] <bazhang> doug16k, you might wish to check there for something more suitable to you
[10:12] <billythekido> hello gius
[10:12] <billythekido> *guys
[10:12] <udzguru> systemd sometimes frustrates me ...
[10:13] <billythekido> If I update ubuntu 16.04 to 17.10, my understanding is that I have to update first to 17.04. Will this install unity 8 to my system?
[10:14] <billythekido> I don't really want to put unity 8 in my system, I would like to avoid it. any thoughts? Thanks a lot in advance :)
[10:14] <alkisg> billythekido: you need 16.10, then 17.04, then 17.10
[10:15] <alkisg> And 2 of them are unsupported
[10:15] <alkisg> Unity 8...? Do you mean gnome, that 17.10 uses?
[10:16] <billythekido> @alkig kalimera
[10:16] <alkisg> kalimera :)
[10:16] <billythekido> I want to move to gnome. The intermediate version had unity 8.
[10:16] <alkisg> No Ubuntu shipped with unity 8
[10:16] <alkisg> Unity 7?
[10:16] <alkisg> What's the output of `ls /usr/share/xsessions` on your system?
[10:17] <billythekido> I'm defintitely on unity 7
[10:17] <billythekido> I thought one of the intermediate versions had 8
[10:17] <billythekido> so I guess I got my answer :)
[10:17] <alkisg> No, 8 was never production quality
[10:17] <alkisg> Only alpha
[10:17] <billythekido> hehehe. thanks a lot mate :)
[10:17] <alkisg> np
[10:17] <billythekido> did u upgrade by any chance?
[10:17] <alkisg> I'm using MATE
[10:18] <billythekido> oh ok :)
[10:18] <alkisg> I tested Gnomein 17.10 though
[10:18] <billythekido> me too
[10:18] <billythekido> on a VM
[10:18] <billythekido> it's reasonably stable
[10:19] <billythekido> I'm off to upgrade the system. euxaristo poli!
[10:19] <alkisg> bb
[10:22]  * alkisg wonders if do-release-upgrade actually works for unsupported releases like 16.04 => 16.10 => 17.04 => 17.10... 
[10:22] <alkisg> Upgrading _from_ an unsupported release sounds fine, pointing to archives, but _to_ an unsupported release...
[10:28] <udzguru> my mysql server won't start. anyone willing to take a look into this with me?
[10:28] <ikonia> udzguru: not getting anywhere ?
[10:29] <udzguru> nowhere.
[10:29] <eb0t> what issue are you getting udzguru and how are you trying to start it
[10:29] <udzguru> i'm trying to start it with systemd
[10:29] <eb0t> have you checked the unit file exists
[10:29] <ikonia> eb0t: what ??
[10:29] <udzguru> jeah it exits
[10:30] <udzguru> exists
[10:30] <eb0t> ah ok...what error is it throwing
[10:30] <ikonia> udzguru: share where you're up to and the current issue
[10:30] <eb0t> ikonia what do you want to know
[10:30] <ikonia> eb0t: the problem
[10:30] <eb0t> well i dont know it yet ..
[10:31] <ikonia> eb0t: right, so telling him to randomly check files seems foolish
[10:31] <ikonia> until you actually know the problem
[10:31] <eb0t> nothing random about anything i have said
[10:31] <udzguru> i haven't made any progress ... still trying to start the mysql server via sudo service mysql start gets me this https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843049/
[10:31] <gambl0re> hello?
[10:31] <eb0t> i approach every issue from the beginning
[10:31] <eb0t> from start to finish
[10:31] <eb0t> nothing random
[10:31] <ikonia> it is random
[10:31] <ikonia> checking if files exist
[10:31] <eb0t> random to someone who hasnt got a clue what is going on maybe
[10:32] <udzguru> and systemd seems to be continually trying to start the server (when i tail syslog i see the same errors all the time)
[10:32] <ikonia> when you have no details of the problem
[10:32] <ikonia> eb0t: why didn't you check what user he was trying to start it as, check if his shell was valid, they are equally as valid and random
[10:33] <doug16k> keyboard shortcuts in qt programs don't work either in gnome. if the OK button has the O underlined, alt+o won't trigger the button. worked in unity :(
[10:33] <eb0t> mysqld --help
[10:33] <eb0t> run that udzguru and see what error it throws
[10:33] <ikonia> eb0t: that won't show you the error
[10:33] <ikonia> that will show you the help output
[10:34] <udzguru> eb0t, that just gives me a generic information about mysql
[10:34] <doug16k> also broke fullscreen applications. tf2 will have a weird blank area where the taskbar/panel are and everything is shifted, if you alt-tab out and back
[10:34] <udzguru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843272/
[10:35] <doug16k> also broke alt-space x to maximize windows. there are no shortcuts on the alt-space window
[10:35] <eb0t> Check logs in /var/log/mysql
[10:35] <doug16k> alt-space menu*
[10:36] <doug16k> gnome appears to be optimized for grandma, not developers
[10:36] <ikonia> doug16k: enough please
[10:38] <eb0t> your approach is random ikonia
[10:38] <eb0t> mine isnt
[10:39] <eb0t> like you just sadi mysqld --help is basically useless
[10:39] <ikonia> eb0t: I've not suggested anything yet
[10:39] <eb0t> yet i know it will lead to the solution
[10:39] <ikonia> eb0t: I didn't say it was useless, I said it displays the help output
[10:39] <eb0t> so basically when you dont understand you should just sit quietly and learn
[10:39] <eb0t> rather than spouting sillyness
[10:39] <ikonia> eb0t: I understand just fine
[10:40] <eb0t> no you dont otherwise you wouldint have said such a comical response
[10:40] <ikonia> eb0t: please explain what is comical ?
[10:40] <eb0t>  ikonia | eb0t: right, so telling him to randomly check files seems foolish
[10:40] <ikonia> eb0t: it is
[10:40] <eb0t> ikonia | it is random
[10:40] <cool_dude> hey i have too process in ubuntu i want to link them
[10:40] <eb0t> comical
[10:41] <udzguru> eb0t, the logfile is cryptic to me ...
[10:41] <ikonia> eb0t: it is random
[10:41] <ikonia> eb0t: you have no reason to think systemd is a problem yet, you've got no error output to suggest systemd is succeeding/failing
[10:41] <cool_dude> link them in sensewhen 1 starts others start automatically
[10:41] <ikonia> eb0t: yet you tell him to check the unit file
[10:41] <eb0t> yes well print out the bottom part of the log file or antying you think may be relevant udzguru
[10:41] <eb0t> all i know is it doesnt start
[10:42] <eb0t> so i dont know the situation so my first issue is to ensure he has the correct unit files
[10:42] <cool_dude> edit : link them in sense when 1 starts others start automatically and ont stops or kills other is kill or stops automatically
[10:42] <eb0t> from there which he does
[10:42] <eb0t> my second is to get the output of the start error
[10:42] <eb0t> then from there i get him to start the daemon and analsye the log file
[10:42] <eb0t> then from there i check the errors in the file and trace them down
[10:43] <eb0t> nothing random at all
[10:43] <eb0t> totally structured...totally clear approach
[10:43] <ikonia> eb0t: randomly check files, randomly print --help output, then told to check logs
[10:43] <ikonia> no structure there at all
[10:43] <eb0t> nothing random abotu it
[10:43] <ikonia> focus on fixing his problem then
[10:43] <eb0t> but ilike i said ..to someone a bit thick ..i expect it to seem random
[10:44] <udzguru> heres the bottom part https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843308/
[10:44] <ikonia> udzguru: lets have a look now the noise is gone
[10:44] <udzguru> allright
[10:45] <ikonia> udzguru: what is that the output from
[10:45] <udzguru> the mysql log file is cryptic. but there are several "alarming" buzzwords in it
[10:45] <ikonia> it contains part of a stack trace
[10:45] <ikonia> suggesting it's crashing
[10:45] <udzguru> /var/log/mysql/error.log
[10:46] <ikonia> udzguru: something must have happened to your machine, you're getting mysql crashing now and the apparmor profile was wrong
[10:46] <cool_dude> can i do that on ubuntu
[10:46] <cool_dude> ?
[10:46] <udzguru> at first i suspected harddrive issues ...
[10:46] <ikonia> udzguru: it's possible, but seems unlikley
[10:46] <udzguru> i checked its smart values they seem fine
[10:47] <ikonia> udzguru: as that wouldn't explain the apparmor change
[10:47] <udzguru> aye
[10:47] <ikonia> one moment to read through this properly, as it's quite a few longer lines in it
[10:49] <ikonia> udzguru: so there is an interesting comment about corruption of the database page, which is noramlly dumped out of ram
[10:49] <ikonia> udzguru: you then see it try to create a memory trap
[10:49] <ikonia> udzguru: you then see it try to back trace, so it's not that it can't start, it's starting and crashing
[10:50] <ikonia> udzguru: %100 something has happened to your machine that you're not aware of
[10:50] <udzguru> jeah ... i saw that there were "errors" and some other worrysome words in the log .. but I cannot understand everything
[10:51] <wrksx> hey guys
[10:51] <ikonia> udzguru: there is a recover option for the database - we can try setting that see if it fails to recover
[10:51] <ikonia> I can't remember the otion off the top of my head so I'll need to look it up
[10:51] <ikonia> udzguru: if it fails to recover it may give an idea of why though
[10:52] <udzguru> probably makes sense to backup the databases first i guess?
[10:52] <ikonia> udzguru: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html
[10:52] <ikonia> udzguru: %101 backup the database first
[10:53] <ikonia> udzguru: there is an intersting comment on this page (lucky find as I was looking for the recovery option it shows)
[10:53] <ikonia> udzguru: dumping the corrupted tables and restarting and it fixed it
[10:53] <ikonia> udzguru: I'd say backup and reboot before doing this though
[10:53] <ikonia> (clean ram, clean system, clear the logs)
[10:54] <ikonia> udzguru: so that innodb_forece_recovery option seems to be the correct recovery mode for innodb
[10:54] <udzguru> ok
[10:55] <ikonia> udzguru: does it make sense to you what's being suggested ?
[10:55] <gambl0re> ubuntu is running slowing side my vm windows....it has 2cpu 4gb. anything else to do?
[10:58] <doug16k> gambl0re, what OS is the guest?
[10:58] <gambl0re> windows
[10:58] <gambl0re> 7
[10:58] <EriC^^> gambl0re: which vm program?
[10:58] <gambl0re> virtualbox
[10:58] <gambl0re> please dont tell me to go to #vbox because that channel is dead
[10:58] <EriC^^> gambl0re: did you give it maximum graphics memory?
[10:58] <gambl0re> like walking dead
[10:58] <doug16k> you will probably get great performance if you use RDP to remote control it
[10:59] <gambl0re> EriC^^, yes
[10:59] <doug16k> it runs like bare hardware for me with RDP
[10:59] <gambl0re> i dont know what is rdp
[10:59] <gambl0re> im looking for the easiest solution
[10:59] <doug16k> the windows remote control. something like remmina (there are several remote control clients to choose from)
[10:59] <gambl0re> i dont want to install a new lightweight linux os
[11:00] <doug16k> RDP = Remote Desktop Protocol
[11:00] <EriC^^> gambl0re: how much memory did you give ubuntu?
[11:00] <gambl0re> doug16k, i dont know what is remmina!
[11:01] <gambl0re> 4gb, should i give more
[11:01] <EriC^^> gambl0re: no that's enough
[11:02] <gambl0re> awesome...
[11:02] <gambl0re> ?
[11:03] <EriC^^> gambl0re: did you install the guest-additions-iso in ubuntu?
[11:03] <gambl0re> yes
[11:03] <gambl0re> i did all this about 1+ year ago...only now am i trying to fix this
[11:03] <EriC^^> gambl0re: how is it slow?
[11:04] <gambl0re> i've been suffering for 1 year now with slow performance
[11:04] <gambl0re> how is it slow? because doing anything feels like molasses
[11:05] <RobTheBuilder> Hallo-hallo. I'm looking at Xubuntu since it's free and lightweight. Up until about 5 minutes ago I was told that the harddrive on this laptop was completely shot. Now I learned that it is potentially working and just empty. How would I be able to tell (I haven't clicked 'install' yet) if the built-in harddrive is working?
[11:05] <doug16k> gambl0re, is hardware virtualization enabled in your BIOS?
[11:05] <gambl0re> opening apps, typing lags, moving the cursor around is unresponsive
[11:05] <gambl0re> yes i did that hyper-v-terminalization setting in bios
[11:06] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX    (get the hdd from sudo parted -l and replace sdX)
[11:06] <udzguru> ikonia, i put the line into the mysql.cnf file and now the server starts ...
[11:06] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: pastebin the results in paste.ubuntu.com and share here
[11:06] <ikonia> udzguru: so it actually recovered ?
[11:06] <udzguru> seems so
[11:06] <wrksx> after update I got this message: the array /dev/md1 [...] is currently active, but it is not listed in mdadm.conf. [...] if it is needed for boot, then YOUR SYSTEM IS NOW UNBOOTABLE!
[11:07] <ikonia> udzguru: ok - so set that parameter back to 0 and see if it's actually recovered (restarting it)
[11:07] <wrksx> and the same one on /dev/md3
[11:07] <gambl0re> ?
[11:07] <ikonia> udzguru: if it's recoverd, it will start, if it's not, it will fail and that command just bypassed the problem as it couldn't actually recover it
[11:07] <doug16k> gambl0re, what cpu do you have? amd or intel?
[11:07] <wrksx> but I checked /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and both are listed
[11:07] <wrksx> I don't get it.
[11:07] <RobTheBuilder> It's installing s-nail EriC^^
[11:07] <gambl0re> intel i3
[11:08] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: s-nail?
[11:08] <udzguru> it still fails to start after removing the recoverything
[11:09] <gambl0re> EriC^^, yes erik, moves like a snail
[11:09] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/3PLVtTZJ EriC^^
[11:09] <EriC^^> gambl0re: i was talking to RobTheBuilder :)
[11:09] <doug16k> gambl0re, run this command: sudo apt-get install cpu-checker    then run this command: kvm-ok    does it say "KVM acceleration can be used"?
[11:10] <EriC^^> gambl0re: sorry, i've no idea of your problem, hopefully doug16k can help you out or someone else who knows about it
[11:10] <gambl0re> will this fix the issue?
[11:10] <udzguru> still with the INALIDARGUMENT error in the journalctl
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:10] <ikonia> udzguru: ok - so put the parameter back to "1" and we'll need to look at dumping the problem tables
[11:10] <doug16k> gambl0re, this will tell you if it is one issue that will cause horrible performance, yes. if it says "KVM acceleration can be used" then it is something else
[11:11] <gambl0re> ok
[11:11] <gambl0re> if you can fix this, i will send you money. im serious
[11:12] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: get the hdd from sudo parted -l and replace sdX
[11:12] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: I don't understand
[11:12] <gambl0re> why do i need to install more packages?
[11:12] <alkisg> RobTheBuilder: instead of sdX, you need to put sda or sdb
[11:12] <alkisg> To find out the exact letter, run: sudo parted -l
[11:12] <RobTheBuilder> OH derp lol okay
[11:13] <gambl0re> doug16k, why do i need to install more packaes
[11:13] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[11:13] <udzguru> ok the server is running in recovery mode again
[11:13] <doug16k> gambl0re, you probably already have the package installed, I only said that command to be thorough
[11:13] <gambl0re> doug16k, you there?
[11:13] <gambl0re> INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions
[11:13] <gambl0re> INFO: For more detailed results, you should run this as root
[11:13] <gambl0re> HINT:   sudo /usr/sbin/kvm-ok
[11:14] <gambl0re> thats the result
[11:14] <alkisg> doug16k, gambl0re: note that gambl0re is using windows, so he can't install cpu-checker in the host. And if he install it in the guest, of course it'll say it can't use kvm.
[11:14] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/nYdBJkdw
[11:14] <RobTheBuilder> so it looks like there's only the thumbdrive
[11:14] <ikonia> udzguru: have a look at that link and the user comments on them
[11:14] <doug16k> alkisg, what? his guest is windows. he's in the #ubuntu room
[11:14] <ikonia> udzguru: they look quite useful
[11:14] <gambl0re> hi alkisg, hows going?
[11:14] <alkisg> doug16k: he was here yesterday too :)
[11:14] <alkisg> Hi gambl0re
[11:14] <doug16k> gambl0re, the problem is you don't have hardware virtualization capability in your cpu
[11:14] <alkisg> doug16k: his host is windows, his guest is ubuntu
[11:14] <gambl0re> doug16k, i said im using windows host suing ubuntun vm
[11:14] <doug16k> alkisg, that's funny because he just posted the output of kvm-ok
[11:14] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[11:15] <alkisg> doug16k: right, from the guest
[11:15] <doug16k> he said the guest is windows earlier
[11:15] <gambl0re> doug16k, yes i do. i enabled hyper-v terminalization in bios, i remember.
[11:15] <alkisg> doug16k: where? :)
[11:15] <alkisg> Just trying to save you some time, is all :D
 gambl0re, what OS is the guest?
 windows
[11:15] <alkisg> (01:14:53 μμ) gambl0re: doug16k, i said im using windows host suing ubuntun vm
[11:16] <alkisg> You can ask him again if you have doubts
[11:16] <gambl0re> my computer is windows using ubuntu
[11:16] <doug16k> oh I don't have doubts. I'm going on what he said when I asked the guest
[11:17] <doug16k> nevermind then, good luck gambl0re
[11:17] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/E5T48CHg EriC^^
[11:17] <alkisg> OK, that's the extend of my tries to clear up the misunderstanding there :)
[11:17] <gambl0re> ?
[11:17] <doug16k> alkisg, thanks
[11:17] <alkisg> np :)
[11:18] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: looks like a perfectly healthy hdd
[11:18] <doug16k> gambl0re, sorry I don't use virtualbox and I havent used windows as host for years
[11:18] <alkisg> gambl0re: do you have an ubuntu live cd to boot your host with? You can check then if your VM works fast or not from there.
[11:18] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg | grep sda" just to see if it has any info?
[11:18] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: the only drive i saw it recognize was the 8gig one?
[11:18] <gambl0re> i feel like i'm in a call centre. yesterday somebody in this channel told me to ask my question in #windows. then someone in #windows told me to ask in #vbox. then a person in told me in #vbox to ask in #ubuntu
[11:18] <alkisg> So if it's an issue with windows, you'll know where to search for a solution
[11:19] <gambl0re> i'm going around in circles
[11:19] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: ok
[11:19] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: or are you seeing something i'm not?
[11:19] <EriC^^> gambl0re: can you please hold
[11:19] <EriC^^> j/k
[11:19] <doug16k> gambl0re, for future reference, the "guest" is the OS running inside the VM. the "host" is the machine running the vm software
[11:19] <gambl0re> nobody wants to help
[11:19] <mpmc> gambl0re: I know the feeling!
[11:19] <gambl0re> thats cool though....
[11:20] <RobTheBuilder> I would if I knew more than 2 things about ubuntu
[11:20] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: no, it looks fine, pastebin the command above, and we'll try to zero out the start of the disk and make a fresh partition table and you can try installing again
[11:21] <alkisg> gambl0re: do you have an ubuntu live cd to boot your pc with that one instead of windows, so that we check if the VM goes fast from there?
[11:21] <gambl0re> alkisg, no
[11:22] <Jkgeneral> hello, I need a package that says that need python greater than the one I have updated. I installed a ppa with that python but the program says the same is like the program didnt notice the new version
[11:22] <alkisg> OK, if you ever want to download and test one, I can help you with that
[11:22] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/5mWnWxKW EriC^^
[11:22] <ikonia> why would running a vm from a livecd already in ram be a good idea
[11:22] <gambl0re> i dont have a cd player
[11:22] <gambl0re> or dvd burner
[11:22] <alkisg> gambl0re: use a usb stick then
[11:22] <alkisg> Live usb stick
[11:22] <Jkgeneral> how I can do all the EXPORT PATH thing needed?
[11:22] <ikonia> gambl0re: let me get this clear, you're running Windows, you are then running an ubuntu VM via virtual box ?
[11:22] <gambl0re> ikonia, affirmative
[11:22] <alkisg> ikonia: because he claims he has enabled vt-x and I don't believe him :)
[11:23] <gambl0re> alkisg, it's true.
[11:23] <gambl0re> why dont you believe me.
[11:23] <ikonia> alkisg: a livecd won't prove/disprove that
[11:23] <alkisg> So with ubuntu live stick we could easily check, and also run kvm to see if it goes fast or not
[11:23] <ikonia> gambl0re: and your ubuntu machine is running slow ?
[11:23] <doug16k> he said he has it set to some hyper-v option. so I have doubts about the config
[11:23] <alkisg> ikonia: how come? just check /proc/cpuinfo
[11:23] <gambl0re> ikonia, affirmative
[11:23] <Jkgeneral> also, I have another computer with Ubuntu 14.04
[11:23] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: type "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=10000 && sync"
[11:23] <ikonia> alkisg: ahhh, I see what you wanted, I thought you where saying run the vm from a livecd
[11:23] <Jkgeneral> and I did an update and the new nvidia drive was collapsed, so the session wont start
[11:23] <ikonia> gambl0re: are you running the ubuntu VM with a gui ?
[11:24] <alkisg> ikonia: that too; apt install kvm && kvm path/to/vm. I've done it a lot of times
[11:24] <gambl0re> yea im using ubuntu 14
[11:24] <gambl0re> metacity
[11:24] <ikonia> gambl0re: eg: it's an ubuntu desktop
[11:24] <alkisg> gambl0re: say "gnome-fallback", not "metacity", for people here to understand you
[11:24] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/8k33NmQN EriC^^
[11:24] <ikonia> gambl0re: so if it's going to fallback that suggests the video card (virtual) is not up to the job
[11:24] <Jkgeneral> how I can reinstall from terminal the previous nvidia??  I know there is a option in synaptic for history but I don't now how to do that without any graphics
[11:25] <ikonia> gambl0re: is the actual VM slow, or just the desktop interaction
[11:25] <gambl0re> ikonia, i chose metacity by default
[11:25] <alkisg> ikonia: gnome-fallback with metacity-no-effects doesn't use 3d or compositing, so it's fast
[11:25] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" press "o" then "w"
[11:25] <gambl0re> alkisg, it's not fast
[11:25] <ikonia> alkisg: depends on his videocard, it will suck with vesa for example
[11:25] <ikonia> gambl0re: is the vm slow - or the desktop slow
[11:26] <udzguru> ikonia, this doesn't seem to help
[11:26] <ikonia> udzguru: what's up, what are you doing
[11:26] <Jkgeneral> someone knows how to export variables of python to get detected by programs?*
[11:26] <gambl0re> the desktop
[11:26] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: what is the exact problem
[11:26] <udzguru> i dumped all databases. removed the recovery. startet over the server
[11:26] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/qLU8PRvq EriC^^
[11:26] <udzguru> again same issue
[11:27] <ikonia> gambl0re: how did you verify it's the desktop and not the vm
[11:27] <ikonia> udzguru: ok - so you have the backups via the dumps ?
[11:27] <Jkgeneral> I have a package that need a version of python higher than my version. I installed a higher version than the required and says the same
[11:27] <udzguru> i dumped everything in one file
[11:27] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: i'm going to be afk for a quick second. Grabbing some coffee/soda
[11:27] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: what is the command you are running that is failing
[11:27] <ikonia> udzguru: but you have backups yes ?
[11:27] <udzguru> yes
[11:27] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: just 2 more commands
[11:27] <gambl0re> becaues the desktop moves at the speed of molasses. slow as fu....
[11:27] <ikonia> udzguru: ok - start the database with the bypass, drop all the databases and remove the files
[11:27] <Jkgeneral> I try to install a program, a deb, is failing the dependence
[11:28] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: sudo partprobe && sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[11:28] <ikonia> gambl0re: how do you know thats the desktop and not the vm
[11:28] <ikonia> gambl0re: and you don't need to swear
[11:28] <gambl0re> ikonia, sorry
[11:28] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: if it mentions "stray gpt" data say yes to zapping them, and you're free to try reinstalling
[11:28] <gambl0re> ikonia, ok maybe it's the vm. i dont know to tell
[11:28] <ikonia> gambl0re: ok - so "I don't know" is the answer, and thats fine
[11:29] <gambl0re> ikonia, sorry
[11:29] <ikonia> gambl0re: are you able to connect to the ubuntu VM via ssh from your host ?
[11:29] <gambl0re> i never tried
[11:29] <ikonia> gambl0re: not a problem - always say "I don't know" if you don't know, rather than guess, it's fine to now know
[11:29] <ikonia> gambl0re: try
[11:29] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: it's asking for an MBR command
[11:29] <wrksx> paste
[11:29] <gambl0re> well how do i do that
[11:29] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: ok, press "q"
[11:29] <Jkgeneral> ikonia, so, it is like the new version is not "percieved" by the system, so I believe that as is installed in /usr/bin/local it should be EXPORT a variable or something like that
[11:30] <RobTheBuilder> Alright it quit, now what? EriC^^
[11:30] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: I asked exactly what command you where running
[11:30] <wrksx> hey guys, can you have a look at that? this is worrying me https://paste.ubuntu.com/25843514/
[11:30] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: and what is failing
[11:30] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: try reinstalling =
[11:30] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: please provide the exact command and failure in a pastebin
[11:30] <RobTheBuilder> Will be back to post results!
[11:30] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^:
[11:30] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: alright
[11:30] <Jkgeneral> I am not running any command, I am trying to install a package
[11:31] <ikonia> gambl0re: does your ubuntu VM have an IP address on your virtual network
[11:31] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: installing a package is a command
[11:31] <Jkgeneral> ok
[11:32] <gambl0re> ikonia,  10.0.2.15
[11:32] <ikonia> gambl0re: so if you install an ssh client on your windows machine, you should be able to connect to it
[11:32] <Jkgeneral> ok, the other problem in the other computer is that I need to know if there is a way to have a history of uninstalled packages through terminal
[11:33] <gambl0re> is there anything else i can try first
[11:33] <ikonia> gambl0re: why do you not want to do that
[11:33] <alkisg> ikonia: why not just press right_ctrl+f1 to login to vt1 and check from there?
[11:33] <ikonia> alkisg: want to make sure no redraw lag, but sure
[11:33] <gambl0re> alkisg, what do i do?
[11:34] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: get the info I asked for first, address one problem at a time
[11:34] <alkisg> gambl0re: listen to ikonia; I was just suggesting a faster check to him, in case he preferred it
[11:34] <Jkgeneral> is a different problem, not related
[11:34] <ikonia> alkisg: its a sane test
[11:34] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: right, focus on one problem
[11:35] <alkisg> gambl0re: if you want to listen to me, I would start with https://www.technorms.com/8208/check-if-processor-supports-virtualization
[11:35] <Jkgeneral> ok, just scrap the other problem then
[11:35] <ikonia> alkisg: I was just a little worried about redraw on the virtual terminal
[11:35] <alkisg> There are tools for windows to check if vt-x is enabled
[11:35] <alkisg> ikonia: in general, flashback on i3 with vesa is extremely fast
[11:35] <ikonia> alkisg: I suspect he has no virtual video card capability assigned
[11:35] <alkisg> You can even watch youtube
[11:35] <ikonia> alkisg: so it will suck
[11:35] <ikonia> even with VT enabled
[11:35] <ikonia> Jkgeneral: then you've wasted my time and I won't assist with other problems
[11:35] <alkisg> I'm using vbox on i3 and flashback, with vesa. It's quite fast.
[11:36] <Jkgeneral> ikonia, thanks for being sooo helpful
[11:37] <udzguru> i don't get it -.- to be able to  drop all db and reimport everything the recovery option needs to be deactivated. and when it's deactivated mysql doesn't start
[11:37] <gambl0re> hold on one sec, im going to reboot my pc and take a screenshot of bios to show you that hyper-v terminalization is enabled.
[11:37] <ikonia> udzguru: interesting, so you can't drop the databses with the inodb recover option set
[11:37] <alkisg> gambl0re: no
[11:37] <alkisg> gambl0re: I don't care about the bios setting, I want to see the result from within the OS
[11:38] <udzguru> sec
[11:38] <alkisg> If you want to convince me, follow the link above ^
[11:38] <udzguru> i think i did a mistake
[11:38] <ikonia> udzguru: no big deal, mistakes happen
[11:39] <gambl0re> alkisg, https://ark.intel.com/products/52220/Intel-Core-i3-2310M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_10-GHz
[11:39] <gambl0re> Advanced Technologies
[11:39] <gambl0re> Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ‡
[11:39] <gambl0re> No
[11:39] <gambl0re> Intel® vPro™ Technology ‡
[11:39] <gambl0re> No
[11:39] <gambl0re> Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
[11:39] <alkisg> gambl0re: that doesn't help at all. Follow the link I gave.
[11:40] <alkisg> Also I think you got muted because of flooding
[11:41] <gambl0re> ok i willdownload it
[11:41] <gambl0re> one se
[11:41] <gambl0re> c
[11:41] <JK22> the first problem was solved by itself, so I am asking another problem
[11:42] <ikonia> JK22: yes, and you wasted my time on the first problem
[11:42] <ikonia> JK22: it doesn't "solve itself"
[11:42] <ikonia> JK22: then you made a sarcastic comment, parted and come back as another nickname
[11:42] <ikonia> it's not really inspiring to invest time to help you
[11:43] <JK22> I installed a previous version of the software that don't need that dependency
[11:43] <ikonia> JK22: you can't change the dependencies of a deb package
[11:43] <ikonia> JK22: so it won't just "stop asking" for that dependency
[11:43] <JK22> is a previous version, the requirements are lesser
[11:44] <ikonia> so it didn't solve itself, you just gave up using the version you where trying to use
[11:44] <udzguru> ikonia, now this looks promising!
[11:44] <JK22> the change of nick is because I can't log in the previous nick, I don't quite understod the nickserv thing
[11:44] <udzguru> server running ... all db present
[11:44] <udzguru> lets try a reboot?
[11:44] <ikonia> udzguru: nice nice nice
[11:44] <JK22> well, anyone else could help me?
[11:45] <gambl0re> alkisg, ok i checked
[11:45] <gambl0re> my pc says i have virtualization
[11:46] <gambl0re> alkisg, you there?
[11:46] <udzguru> server starts after reboot.
[11:46] <udzguru> YES!
[11:46] <ikonia> udzguru: well done
[11:46] <udzguru> thank you ikonia for the help
[11:46] <udzguru> thank you!!!!
[11:46] <ikonia> udzguru: you're welcome, structured help over random guessess normally gets there
[11:47] <udzguru> jeah indeed
[11:47] <ikonia> udzguru: you removed the option from my.cnf ?
[11:47] <udzguru> yes
[11:47] <ikonia> (don't forget to - it's bad to run with it)
[11:47] <JK22> so, this ignore/ban thing will endure for ever or is just for today?
[11:47] <ikonia> udzguru: well done to you then, nice recovery
[11:47] <ikonia> JK22: no-one has banned you
[11:47] <ikonia> JK22: you're in the channel talking, everyone can see you
[11:48] <udzguru> i think of myself as an advanced user ... but sometimes linux shows me my limits ... but i take it as a challenge
[11:48] <ikonia> udzguru: well done
[11:50] <JK22> ok, because other times this chat saved me a lot. nobody told me that I couldn't ask two things at the same time and go just for one then. anyway, have a nice time all you. I suppose I will ask later.
[11:54] <demophobia> Is there a way to turn off my laptop's LEDs in ubuntu?
[11:55] <demophobia> i don't really want to see the 'wifi' LED -- i know if i'm connected to the internet ...
[11:55] <ikonia> I suspect not
[11:55] <ikonia> thats an unusual requirement
[11:55] <demophobia> :( a different OS? i thought linux was about "giving you control over your computer"
[11:55] <demophobia> there surely is a way, since ubuntu is responsible for the LED being lit, right?
[11:55] <demophobia> unless it's physically hardwired in response to this switch
[11:56] <ikonia> demophobia: no, it's not
[11:56] <ikonia> demophobia: it's a hardware call
[11:56] <demophobia> o_o
[11:56] <demophobia> ... you don't mean a physical mechanism?
[11:56] <ikonia> I mean it's a software interaction with a hardware controller
[11:57] <ikonia> if the hardware controller doesn't expose a "turn LED off" api - the software can't do it
[11:58] <brainwash> demophobia: check what options the driver for your wifi device supports
[11:59] <demophobia> How?
[12:00] <demophobia> ... is it normal for my SODIMM to be at 50 C according to psensor?
[12:02] <ikonia> depends on your hardware
[12:02] <ikonia> manual will tell you expected operating temperatures
[12:02] <kk4ewt> demophobia,  what does your motherboard manual say about the temps you may see
[12:03] <demophobia> kk4ewt, bought this 10 year old computer used, owner's manual from dell is lacking in detail
[12:03] <demophobia> i could search for other info though
[12:03] <demophobia> i need to go to bed now though
[12:03] <brainwash> demophobia: in my case it's an intel chip and I can see all available options via "modinfo iwlwifi"
[12:03] <demophobia> i suppose a piece of tape will solve the problem ...
[12:03] <alkisg> gambl0re: in your virtualbox settings, do you have virtualization enabled?
[12:03] <mindblast> hello, is there an ultimate fix for bluetooth bug in ubuntu 16.04?
[12:04] <kk4ewt> mindblast which bluetooth bug
[12:04] <ikonia> mindblast: what bug
[12:04] <mindblast> bluetooth speakers keep disconnecting after a while in ubuntu 16.04.
[12:04] <mindblast> there are plenty of posts about it on the net.
[12:05] <demophobia> 'modinfo iw'+tab froze my temirnal for a moment ...
[12:05] <ikonia> mindblast: where is the bug report
[12:05] <kk4ewt> mindblast,  and you are using wifi as well ?
[12:05] <mindblast> kk4ewt, yes I use wifi.
[12:05] <demophobia> what is 'swcrypto'? ... hm ...
[12:06] <kk4ewt> and you realize that bluetooth and wireless can use the same freqs
[12:06] <brainwash> demophobia: sw is probably sofware
[12:06] <kk4ewt> and therefore conflict
[12:06] <brainwash> demophobia: meaning that it's done by the cpu and not the wifi chip
[12:07] <mindblast> kk4ewt, why is that conflict not happening in windows 10 then?
[12:08] <brainwash> mindblast: is there an actual bug report?
[12:08] <brainwash> mindblast: on launchpad
[12:08] <rcombs> anyone know how to get gdm to keep my session running when the display is disconnected/turned off
[12:09] <mindblast> I don't know what you mean with actual bug report. there are posts on askubuntu.com if they count? :s
[12:09] <brainwash> those are not bug reports
[12:09] <brainwash> !bugs
[12:09] <gambl0re> alkisg, i have it enabled
[12:10] <rcombs> also, if I have an issue where gnome-shell fails to start when libegl is installed due to what appears to be a mumble error, where should I report that?
[12:10] <alkisg> gambl0re: ok. Restart the VM, and don't open any applications. Open only gnome-terminal, and type: ls -R /
[12:10] <alkisg> gambl0re: does that go fast?
[12:10] <skinux> Is libdvdread and libdvdcss the only packages needed to play DVDs?
[12:10] <gambl0re> wait
[12:10] <brainwash> rcombs: I would run "ubuntu-bug gnome-shell"
[12:10] <gambl0re> im rebooting
[12:11] <brainwash> rcombs: and let it create a bug report
[12:11] <gambl0re> you want me to open up the terminal and type that command?
[12:11] <alkisg> gambl0re: yes
[12:11] <alkisg> It will just scroll a few things, to see if it goes fast or not
[12:11] <gambl0re> alkisg, i havent done anything different.
[12:11] <rcombs> brainwash: I can't reproduce the issue on a live process, is that okay?
[12:12] <alkisg> gambl0re: yes, but the last time you said that it goes slow when you "open all your stuff", so I want to see if it goes fast "before you open your stuff"
[12:12] <rcombs> (since it exits immediately during startup when this happens, disables Wayland, and falls back on X)
[12:12] <mindblast> wow. that's a lot of work for a total beginner :D
[12:12] <gambl0re> ok i opened up my terminal
[12:12] <rcombs> (well, gdm does that)
[12:12] <brainwash> rcombs: could it be related to the type of session? wayland vs. x11
[12:12] <rcombs> yes
[12:12] <rcombs> it's specific to wayland sessions
[12:12] <gambl0re> ls -R is doing something
[12:13] <rcombs> removing libegl allows wayland sessions to work properly
[12:13] <gambl0re> terminal is acting nuts
[12:13] <alkisg> gambl0re: yes, it's listing all the files in the disk. Is that fast or slow?
[12:13] <rcombs> here's the error: Oct 28 08:41:58 rcombs-NUC org.gnome.Shell.desktop[875]: Window manager warning: Failed to create renderer: Failed to initialize renderer: Missing extension for GBM renderer: EGL_KHR_platform_gbm, Missing EGL extensions required for EGLDevice renderer: EGL_EXT_device_base
[12:13] <alkisg> gambl0re: you can stop it with ctrl+c when you want
[12:13] <gambl0re> fast
[12:13] <gambl0re> i stopped it
[12:13] <rcombs> also while it's in that state, X sessions end up pretty broken and don't allow graphics acceleration
[12:13] <rcombs> I haven't tried using an X session without libegl installed
[12:13] <alkisg> gambl0re: nice, now open only a browser and go visit a youtube video. Nothing else. Does it display good enough?
[12:14] <gambl0re> terminal opens up quickly but it doesnt feel smooth
[12:14] <gambl0re> if you know what i mean
[12:14] <alkisg> gambl0re: no, I'm not sure I do
[12:14] <brainwash> rcombs: mmh. running the ubuntu-bug command will gather all needed log files and open a bug report
[12:14] <gambl0re> its not smooth like butter
[12:14] <brainwash> rcombs: that's what you should do
[12:14] <alkisg> gambl0re: VMs are not smooth like butter, yes
[12:14] <alkisg> Because they have multiple layers of graphics
[12:14] <rcombs> alright, so, reinstall it, reboot, ssh in, run that command, then I'm done?
[12:14] <akik> gambl0re: not sure if it's about the amount of video ram but you can go from 128 megs to 256 megs with a VBoxManage command. it's not available in the gui
[12:14] <gambl0re> its like spreading crunch peanut butter
[12:15] <rcombs> or do I have to have a desktop session running
[12:15] <gambl0re> its smooth but theres still bumps
[12:15] <alkisg> I don't think that description helps  :)
[12:15] <alkisg> Go visit a youtube video
[12:15] <brainwash> rcombs: you could try to ask in #ubuntu-desktop also (but it's sunday and devs may be not around)
[12:15] <akik> gambl0re: VBoxManage modifyvm "Name of VM" --vram 256
[12:15] <alkisg> You can also check the fps there
[12:15] <gambl0re> its like when you spread crunchy peanut butter on bread. the peanut butter is smooth but you can still feel the peanuts underneath
[12:15] <rcombs> alright
[12:15] <gambl0re> so its not completely smooth
[12:15] <alkisg> (02:14:43 μμ) alkisg: Because they have multiple layers of graphics
[12:16] <brainwash> rcombs: ideally go through https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[12:16] <gambl0re> i already gave my vm max mb for video graphics
[12:16] <brainwash> rcombs: maybe it's a known issue
[12:16] <rcombs> oh sure
[12:17] <akik> gambl0re: the 256 setting is not available in the gui
[12:17] <rcombs> hmm, I don't see anything that looks relevant
[12:17] <gambl0re> my pc doesnt have 256mb
[12:17] <gambl0re> i can only give 125mb
[12:20] <akik> gambl0re: also, did you enable 3d acceleration for the vm?
[12:20] <rcombs> any ideas on how to prevent the session from exiting when the display's disconnected?
[12:23] <gambl0re> akik, yea i tried both on and off. made no difference
[12:23] <akik> gambl0re: for the 3d acceleration you also need the guest vm tools
[12:23] <gambl0re> well how do i check if i have all guest vm tools. i remember when i first had my vm setup which was like 1+ years ago i did all this stuff
[12:25] <akik> gambl0re: i'm not sure how you do it with the version of virtualbox in the ubuntu repositories. i've only used the virtualbox.org version
[12:25] <gambl0re> ok i give up.
[12:26] <gambl0re> i guess there is  no fix. thanks guys
[12:26] <gambl0re> i'll just buy a mac
[12:26] <akik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[12:26] <akik> oh wow
[12:28] <BluesKaj> gambl0re, remember running in a VM is not the same as the real thing so expect problems , the real OS is always better IME
[12:28] <akik> there's a fix, but you need to work for it
[12:29] <gambl0re> alkisg, i remember doing that like a year ago
[12:29] <alkisg> gambl0re: again. I AM NOT AKIK
[12:29] <BluesKaj> but buy a nmac if you must, and pay for support
[12:30] <gambl0re> BluesKaj, yea ive used vm's on other machines and it worked a lot better
[12:30] <gambl0re> BluesKaj, it felt like host os isnisde vm
[12:30] <BluesKaj> better than what tho?
[12:30] <gambl0re> better than my laptop
[12:30] <BluesKaj> sure ....
[12:31] <gambl0re> not sure what to do
[12:33] <JacobV> Hi
[12:33] <JacobV> how can I find out what version of open-vm-tools I'm running on ubuntu
[12:33] <JacobV> On guest Virtual Machine, via Vmware Workstation
[12:34] <akik> gambl0re: use the vboxmanage command to raise the video ram to 256 megs, then enable 3d acceleration for the vm and then install the guest additions in the vm
[12:35] <gambl0re> alkisg, my laptop only has 128mb,
[12:35] <alkisg> gambl0re: I AM NOT AKIK
[12:35] <gambl0re> and i already have guest additions
[12:35] <gambl0re> alkisg, ??
[12:35] <alkisg> gambl0re: see who is talking to you
[12:35] <gambl0re> and i tried 3d accel option on/off and didnt make any difference
[12:36] <alkisg> I am alkisg, and I am not talking to you in the last 20 mins
[12:36] <alkisg> akik is talking to you
[12:36] <alkisg> He is another person
[12:36] <gambl0re> alkisg, yea you're helping me
[12:36] <gambl0re> ?
[12:36] <alkisg> I think you have reading issues...
[12:36] <alkisg> :)
[12:36] <gambl0re> wtf.
[12:37] <akik> gambl0re: the video ram is internal to virtualbox
[12:37] <akik> gambl0re: it's not related to your laptop hardware
[12:37] <gambl0re> what was the command for that again?
[12:37] <akik> gambl0re: VBoxManage modifyvm "Name of VM" --vram 256
[12:37] <gambl0re> do i just type this in the terminal?
[12:37] <alkisg> akik: 3d doesn't work in linux guests, btw
[12:37] <alkisg> It says so in the vbox interface
[12:37] <akik> gambl0re: you probably need to shutdown the vm first
[12:38] <akik> alkisg: really? it has worked in previous releases
[12:38] <gambl0re> alkisg, do i typoe that command in windows host or ubuntu?
[12:38] <mindblast> it's funny that the bluetooth problem I'm having atm is known for years (can get to that information with a 1 hour google search) but still your response is "what bluetooth bug?". I've read the "how to report a bug" page and it says I should ask my questions on askubuntu.com and such forums first. And what I see on askubuntu.com is there are plenty of posts about bluetooth problems.
[12:38] <akik> gambl0re: in windows host
[12:38] <alkisg> akik: ah sorry it's 2d acceleration which isn't working
[12:39] <skinux> What packages other than libdvdread4 and libdvdcss do I need to play DVD movies?
[12:39] <akik> gambl0re: in your case it's probably VBoxManage.exe and not in path
[12:41] <gambl0re> one sec
[12:42] <gambl0re> alkisg, when i open vboxmanage.exe it opens then closes real quick
[12:42] <gambl0re> how do i do it in command prompt
[12:43] <akik> gambl0re: i pasted the command to you, replace VBoxManage with VBoxManage.exe
[12:45] <gambl0re> VBoxManage.exe modifyvm "ubuntu" --vram 256
[12:45] <gambl0re> is not working
[12:45] <alkisg> akik: so, when gambl0re says "alkisg" assume that he talks to you :)
[12:46] <akik> gambl0re: how is it not working?
[12:46] <gambl0re> i dont know....it same VBoxManage command not found
[12:46] <gambl0re> it says
[12:47] <akik> gambl0re: although i have to write at this time that i just tested enabling 3d acceleration for a 17.10 vm and it is really sluggish
[12:47] <gambl0re> im using 14
[12:47] <akik> oh good :)
[12:48] <gambl0re> do i need to be in /virtualbox directory?
[12:49] <akik> gambl0re: you need to be in the virtualbox installation directory which has VBoxManage.exe
[12:49] <gambl0re> ok i ran the command
[12:49] <gambl0re> it worked i think
[12:49] <gambl0re> cause it didnt give me any errors
[12:49] <akik> gambl0re: ok then open virtualbox and go to the settings of your vm
[12:50] <gambl0re> enable 3e?
[12:50] <gambl0re> 3d?
[12:50] <akik> gambl0re: yes
[12:50] <gambl0re> done
[12:50] <gambl0re> now what
[12:50] <gambl0re> oh wow, i can see 256mb now in settings
[12:51] <gambl0re> should i enable 2d accel
[12:51] <akik> gambl0re: then start it up and login. there'll be a menu item in devices "insert guest additions cd"
[12:51] <akik> gambl0re: no
[12:51] <gambl0re> i dont have guest additions cd
[12:51] <akik> gambl0re: it's built-in to the virtualbox software
[12:51] <gambl0re> great
[12:52] <gambl0re> its booting up
[12:52] <gambl0re> it didnt ask for any login
[12:52] <akik> gambl0re: have you installed build-essential in your vm? i think it'd be good to install it now
[12:53] <gambl0re> i didnt think the slowness has anything to do with graphics....
[12:54] <gambl0re> how can i check if i have build-essential
[12:55] <akik> gambl0re: dpkg -l build-essential
[12:55] <BluesKaj> apt-cache policy build-essential
[12:56] <gambl0re> i pasted you in pm
[12:56] <akik> i think virtualbox + 3d + wayland doesn't work
[12:56] <gambl0re> too big for channel
[12:56] <gambl0re> did you read it?
[12:56] <akik> gambl0re: no you didn't :)
[12:56] <akik> somebody else got the paste
[12:56] <synthor> hi. i installed xubuntu with the 17.10 mini.iso. i fully encrypted the disk of the laptop of course. i selected german keyboard layout during install and entered the passphrase with it. everything installs fine but on booting the fresh system the keyboard layout is set to US when I have to enter the passphrase. how to change the layout?
[12:57] <gambl0re> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[12:57] <gambl0re> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[12:57] <gambl0re> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:57] <gambl0re> ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
[12:57] <gambl0re> +++-[12:57] <gambl0re> ii  build-essentia 11.6ubuntu6  amd64        Informational list of build-essen
[12:57] <synthor> i noticed this bug in the graphical installer of ubuntu in beta2 and release aswell
[12:57] <akik> see, it's installed (ii) :)
[12:57] <brainwash> synthor: link to the bug report?
[12:58] <synthor> i haven't opened up one
[12:58] <brainwash> why not? you've noticed it in beta2
[12:58] <gambl0re> alkisg, so now what?
[12:58] <akik> gambl0re: my nick is akik
[12:58] <synthor> i reported other bugs and reported them. aren't fixed in release. psensor refresh bug eg
[12:59] <akik> gambl0re: then select that menu item devices/insert guest additions cd
[12:59] <synthor> i would report one now, but first i want to know the fix
[12:59] <synthor> glad i know the us layout ;)
[12:59] <gambl0re> i get an error
[12:59] <gambl0re> cannot mount ....
[13:00] <brainwash> synthor: that is not how it works
[13:00] <akik> gambl0re: it could be that your vm configuration doesn't have a cd drive?
[13:00] <brainwash> synthor: btw did you read the release notes?
[13:00] <brainwash> synthor: https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-17-10-release/
[13:00] <gambl0re> it does
[13:00] <gambl0re> could we do this in pm?
[13:00] <akik> ok
[13:00] <gambl0re> im getting confused who im tlaking to
[13:01] <gambl0re> cool
[13:01] <synthor> nope i just researched with duckduckgo and havent found it
[13:01] <synthor> thx brain
[13:02] <gambl0re> yo you there?
[13:02] <akik> gambl0re: this is still the channel
[13:02] <gambl0re> yea i pm'd you
[13:02] <akik> i don't think so
[13:02] <gambl0re> i did..check again
[13:03] <gambl0re> something is acting strange with my mirc
[13:04] <akik> gambl0re: unmount what?
[13:04] <akik> sorry
[13:08] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1047384
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a real easy package to import new pictures from a digital photocamera to nautilus, for an older customer that gets confused alot any hints?
[13:28] <RobTheBuilder> Hoii again
[13:28] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: just wanted to let you know install went without a hitch.
[13:29] <RobTheBuilder> Though now my software installing program thingy (pardon my vagueness) doesn't seem to want to work.
[13:30] <RobTheBuilder> https://snag.gy/ZFpK7U.jpg -- screenshot
[13:34] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  give a look at   rapid-photo-downloader maybe
[13:34] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/rapid-photo-downloader-linux-0-9
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> ioria: tnx mate and hi, lemme have a look
[13:35] <ioria> ok
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> ioria: looks interesting, worth a try
[13:37] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  yeah
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ill try a few from these: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/7-picasa-alternatives-made-linux/
[13:42] <synthor> setting KEYMAP=Y in initramfs.conf didn't help. but that solved the crypt keyboard layout bug on boot https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1765
[13:43] <synthor> i saw the correct phassphrase during setup so I'm glad i don't have to install again
[13:43] <EriC^^> RobTheBuilder: cool, good to hear
[13:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  has your customer a specific need ?
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yes, no hassle to determine the new from the old(already moved) pictures from the digital camera
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> ioria: and automatic move to pc
[13:45] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  ah
[13:46] <RobTheBuilder> EriC^^: I can't get it to install anything, though. I'm going to try updating everything and maybe that'll fix it.
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> ioria: for older users, its confusing to just drag n drop all pics, then delete from camera lol
[13:47] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  i see :þ
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> ioria: seems like digikam can do alot of stuff also
[13:50] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  yep, don't know about automatic move
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: gonan try it in a bit, tnx for the think-along ; )
[13:51] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  np
[13:56] <rcombs> anyone know a way to programmatically change the display refresh rate in a gdm wayland session
[13:58] <RobTheBuilder> okay I think I got everything working
[13:59] <alkisg> rcombs: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6b2vl1/changing_resolution_from_cli_on_gnome_wayland/?st=j9ctmrfm&sh=549a3260
[13:59] <RobTheBuilder> Thanks for all your help EriC^^ !
[13:59] <alkisg> rcombs: or you can just initially pass the desired edid...
[13:59] <alkisg> (in the kernel)
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | EriC^^
[13:59] <rcombs> so "talk to mutter over dbus"? makes sense
[14:00] <rcombs> alkisg: this is for a media player application; it needs to pick the optimal rate for the content being played
[14:00] <alkisg> rcombs: I'm not sure how full-screen media players are supposed to "automatically select the optimal rate"...
[14:01] <alkisg> Kernel defaults, edid info, user settings... all those already exist, what does the "optimal" do?
[14:01] <rcombs> 1. know rate of content; 2. get list of rates the display supports; 3. set rate to the rate that best matches the content
[14:02] <rcombs> e.g. for 24/1.001 content, set it to 24/1.001; for 25fps content, set it to 50 (assuming a 25Hz mode doesn't exist), etc
[14:02] <alkisg> Ah, based on rate of content... hmm, yeah for those fancy newer displays that support variable refresh rates...
[14:02] <rcombs> plenty of display support _multiple_ refresh rates
[14:02] <rcombs> TVs in particular
[14:02] <alkisg> Usually the edid info is just "xxx@60 fps" and that's all
[14:02] <sruli> i have triple boot, lubuntu ubuntu and win, just made an dist-upgrade on the lubuntu and in grub i only get lubuntu, os-prober shows all 3, update-grub does not, what do i do?
[14:02] <alkisg> So playing around with new modes that aren't provided in edid isn't normal
[14:02] <rcombs> TVs and projects' EDID generally return a sizable selection of modes
[14:03] <alkisg> Those in the output of xrandr
[14:03] <RobTheBuilder> Hmm... I'm having trouble installing Discord onto ubuntu.
[14:03] <rcombs> usually several common resolutions, and a variety of refresh rates at each one
[14:03] <alkisg> E.g. http://termbin.com/p2os
[14:03] <rcombs> *projectors'
[14:03] <alkisg> So, 1920x1080 at 50 or 60...
[14:03] <alkisg> You could match 25/30 fps there
[14:04] <rcombs> yeah, that display doesn't have a 24fps mode, interesting
[14:04] <alkisg> rcombs: which media player is that? Sounds too good to be true :D
[14:04] <rcombs> it's not entirely uncommon for displays to actually work fine at rates below their maximum that EDID doesn't advertise, but I wouldn't try to force that by default
[14:04] <rcombs> might do a setting for it, though
[14:04] <rcombs> this is for Plex Media Player
[14:05] <rcombs> it already does this for X sessions
[14:05] <alkisg> Yeah I've tried cvt/custom modes and they work fine, but I don't do it on displays were I actually care about :D
[14:05] <rcombs> and on e.g. Raspberry Pi, via a direct interface with the video hardware
[14:05] <maziar> I have some /dev/mapper on my /dev/sdc1 from my previous installation, how can I remove it ?
[14:05] <rcombs> but afaik Wayland itself doesn't have an API for this like X does?
[14:05] <alkisg> rcombs: should I assume that you also take care of "flicker free" in most common setups?
[14:06] <rcombs> that's the idea
[14:06] <rcombs> the underlying player is mpv
[14:06] <gambl0re> can i delete the one with the x ?
[14:06] <gambl0re> https://imgur.com/a/5Bhxn
[14:06] <alkisg> rcombs: true, the initial protocol is the one pointed by the article, https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/Gaps/DisplayConfig, and it's very limited
[14:06] <rcombs> PMP is a Qt/C++ wrapper around that which provides a (JS-based) GUI and some more complex OS interactions (like modesetting)
[14:07] <gambl0re> alkisg, hey
[14:08] <alkisg> Hi again gambl0re
[14:08] <rcombs> what's it mean when it refers to the "GnomeRR API"?
[14:09] <gambl0re> alkisg, https://imgur.com/a/tg3be
[14:09] <alkisg> rcombs: rotate and resize, https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-desktop3/stable/gnome-desktop3-gnome-rr.html
[14:09] <alkisg> I haven't used that one
[14:09] <gambl0re> which one
[14:10] <alkisg> gambl0re: again. I AM NOT akik.
[14:10] <gambl0re> what are you talking about?
[14:10] <gambl0re> seriously
[14:10] <alkisg> I don't know what you have been discussing with akik
[14:10] <alkisg> There are 2 persons here, alkisg and akik
[14:10] <alkisg> We were talking 3 hours ago
[14:10] <alkisg> Then you were talking with akik, and you though you were talking with me
[14:10] <gambl0re> i was talking to you
[14:10] <alkisg> And you were saying, "alkisg, this and that", and you were talking with akik
[14:10] <alkisg> No. See the channel logs.
[14:11] <alkisg> gambl0re: use another irc client, you're getting very confused with the one you're usijng
[14:11] <gambl0re> [12:10:24] <alkisg> gambl0re: ok. Restart the VM, and don't open any applications. Open only gnome-terminal, and type: ls -R /
[14:11] <alkisg> That's 4 hours ago
[14:11] <gambl0re> not 4hrs
[14:11] <alkisg> Now it's 16:11
[14:12] <gambl0re> not where i live
[14:12] <alkisg> (02:14:49 μμ) akik: gambl0re: not sure if it's about the amount of video ram but you can go from 128 megs to 256 megs with a VBoxManage command. it's not available in the gui
[14:12] <gambl0re> the point is, you were helping me
[14:12] <alkisg> From that time and on, you've been talking with akik
[14:12] <gambl0re> so not sure what you were talking about
[14:13] <alkisg> Well the last things we talked about is that terminals were going fast, and I was waiting to hear about youtube
[14:13] <alkisg> I haven't asked you anything else since, you were talking with akik in the last hours
[14:13] <alkisg> He asked you to increase the vram, and I don't know what else
[14:14] <akik> alkisg: we enabled the 3d acceleration and reinstall the guest additions in his vm
[14:15] <alkisg> akik: I don't think there's anything wrong with his vm...
[14:15] <alkisg> He said gnome-terminal was scrolling fast
[14:16] <alkisg> Then he said that things didn't go smooth as butter, and I lost him :)
[14:17] <RobTheBuilder> Where would I be able to find the directory of an install? Ex: pidgin.
[14:17] <akik> 13:25 < ikonia> gambl0re: is the vm slow - or the desktop slow
[14:17] <akik> 13:26 < gambl0re> the desktop
[14:18] <akik> maybe there was a misunderstanding on my part
[14:18] <alkisg> I asked him to watch a youtube video, he hasn't done so yet
[14:18] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: applications aren't installed in a single directory, normally
[14:18] <akik> well virtualbox and video is not a good combination
[14:19] <auronandace> !fsh | RobTheBuilder
[14:19] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse: I'm supposed to find a file for plugins for pidgin which is directed in .purple, though i don't know where that is.
[14:19] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: .purple sounds like it would be in your homedir
[14:20] <alkisg> akik: youtube has a "statistics" function, and it's an easy way to see if he has e.g. 5 fps and complains for a valid reason, or 25 fps and there's no reason to complain
[14:20] <alkisg> Some lag between vm draw and host draw is to be expected
[14:20] <akik> alkisg: have you had a good experience with any video in virtualbox?
[14:20] <alkisg> Yes, videos in vbox play with no dropped frames
[14:21] <alkisg> Of course there's tearing, but that's expected
[14:21] <akik> alkisg: which resolution?
[14:21] <alkisg> No full screen, usual youtube window size
[14:21] <akik> it's never worked for me good so i stopoped trying
[14:21] <alkisg> On an i3?
[14:22] <akik> alkisg: this was a couple of years ago. i don't remember any more
[14:22] <RobTheBuilder> It was, thanks. :) it also says to "Make sure that your distribution's package for json-glib is installed." how do I double-check this ducasse?
[14:22] <rcombs> alkisg: I see a lot of information in that API's docs about how to get information about display modes, but not on how to change them?
[14:23] <alkisg> akik: just tested again in vbox/16.04/mate, watching e.g. "moonlight shadow" in youtube non-full screen, dropped frames: 0/1500
[14:24] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: i'm guessing here, but try 'apt policy json-glib-tools'
[14:24] <alkisg> rcombs: afaik that's a kernel thing, not a userland thing. Pass a custom edid to the kernel?
[14:24] <alkisg> akik: in full screen as well, dropped frames: 0/2500
[14:25] <alkisg> (with no guest additions, plain vesa, core i5)
[14:25] <RobTheBuilder> Well I think it worked because it said 'installed: (none)' and some other lines.
[14:25] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse:
[14:25] <rcombs> well it's clearly available via dbus
[14:25] <rcombs> I just don't see it in that C API
[14:26] <alkisg> rcombs: I think you'd want something like #gnome-devel now... :)
[14:26] <Mentol> dhcpd is not sending the gateway (to dhclient) for a sub-net. How to fix it?
[14:26] <rcombs> heh, fair point
[14:26] <akik> alkisg: ok i tried now again and seems to work
[14:26] <Mentol> I've "option rfc3442-classless-static-routes 24, 192,168,10, 192,168,10,1;" innner of a "subnet" statement
[14:26] <Mentol> And the client is getting that variable (seen in '/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.enp0s8.lease')
[14:26] <Mentol> but it is not setting the gateway
[14:26] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: 'installed: (none)' means it's not installed. if it was there would be a version number instead of (none)
[14:27] <akik> alkisg: even audio works without glitches
[14:28] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse: Okay... So I've honestly never heard of json glib tools before but how would I go about installing it? I doubt it's just sitting in the software center
[14:28] <alkisg> akik: and cpu is only 10% slower than the real thing, so yeah it's pretty nice for non-gaming VMs
[14:28] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: sudo apt install json-glib-tools
[14:28] <maziar> please help me
[14:28] <maziar> I have some /dev/mapper/XX on my /dev/sdc1 from my previous installation, how can I remove it ? and add a new partition on sdc1 ?
[14:29] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse: would that command work for anything so long as I get the name right? Like sudo apt install discord?
[14:30] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: only software that is in the repositories
[14:30] <ducasse> (or a ppa you add)
[14:30] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse: so after that do i need to do anything further or is it installed?
[14:31] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: that should be it
[14:32] <RobTheBuilder> The location of pidgin plugins must have changed then... it's not popping up in the plugin area.
[14:36] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: i know nothing about pidgin or libpurple, sorry.
[14:36] <RobTheBuilder> Hmm. Well how do I make sure a program is closed fully? ducasse
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !mint
[14:38] <oerheks> sudo snap install discord # it is available as snap
[14:38] <RobTheBuilder> Ooh! so do i include the #?
[14:38] <matteeyah> that's a commend
[14:39] <matteeyah> s/commend/comment
[14:39] <RobTheBuilder> "error: snap "discord" not found" - I have their installer but I can't get it to work either.
[14:39] <oerheks> you can, all behind the # does not harm
[14:40] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: which ubuntu version is this?
[14:40] <RobTheBuilder> Uhhh how do I check really quick? Lol I didn't download it.
[14:41] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: 'lsb_release -sd'
[14:41] <RobTheBuilder> 16.04.3 LTS
[14:42] <sruli> i have triple boot, lubuntu ubuntu and win, just made an dist-upgrade on the lubuntu and in grub i only get lubuntu, os-prober shows all 3, update-grub does not, how do i make update-grub add it?
[14:42] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, snap find discord
[14:42] <matteeyah> did you try --recheck?
[14:42] <matteeyah> sruli
[14:43] <RobTheBuilder> returned 0 snaps kostkon
[14:43] <sruli> matteeyah: update-grub --recheck?
[14:43] <matteeyah> RobTheBuilder try clicking install from https://uappexplorer.com/snap/ubuntu/discord
[14:44] <matteeyah> sruli grub-install --recheck
[14:44] <matteeyah> basically just reinstall grub to /dev/sda
[14:44] <RobTheBuilder> It doesn't look like I have gnome software installer instaled
[14:44] <RobTheBuilder> mateeyah
[14:45] <RobTheBuilder> Firefox didn't know what to do with the snap\\ link
[14:46] <RobTheBuilder> snap://discord, I mean.
[14:46] <matteeyah> sudo snap install Discord
[14:46] <matteeyah> try a capital D
[14:46] <sruli> matteeyah: grub-install --recheck did not add it
[14:46] <krobzaur>  Howdy all, any kde users here? I have a minor issue that I'm irrationally pissed off about. The KWin Task Switcher only allows you to use the arrow keys to scroll through windows for a few of the effects, not all of them. Can I fix this at all?
[14:46] <krobzaur> Using Kubuntu 16.04 for the record
[14:46] <RobTheBuilder> Same as last time matteeyah, Discord was not found.
[14:48] <matteeyah> sruli, grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[14:48] <RobTheBuilder> Downloading it directly from the website made the installer not want to install as well matteeyah
[14:48] <ducasse> krobzaur: try #kubuntu
[14:48] <krobzaur> ducasse: thanks
[14:48] <matteeyah> RobTheBuilder it could be that something's wrong with your install :P
[14:49] <ducasse> krobzaur: plus, please don't crosspost
[14:49] <RobTheBuilder> It's awfully biased against Discord lol
[14:49] <krobzaur> ducasse: What do you mean by crosspost?
[14:50] <sruli> matteeyah: still not adding the other boots
[14:50] <ducasse> krobzaur: asking the same question in multiple channels at the same time - it's considered rude
[14:50] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, just for a test,  snap find blender
[14:50] <RobTheBuilder> kostkon: 0 snaps
[14:51] <matteeyah> yup, snaps seems to be broken on your install
[14:52] <RobTheBuilder> Okay how do I fix?
[14:52] <krobzaur> ducasse: Why is that? It seems an effective way to reach multiple people who might not be present in all the channels I ask the question in
[14:52] <RobTheBuilder> Also would xubuntu make any difference? as far as I'm aware it's the same but has a few ui changes.
[14:53] <matteeyah> sudo apt show snapd?
[14:53] <Etua> Hello, I'd like to install Kubuntu but patitioning my hard drive cannot be done either by partman nor gparted. Could you help me with that?
[14:54] <RobTheBuilder> https://pastebin.com/QRFLcy63 matteeyah
[14:54] <krobzaur> ducasse: Also people will often instruct me to ask my question in another channel. I don't mean to bother anyone but I don't see specifically how it is rude
[14:54] <ducasse> krobzaur: because you end up with multiple people wasting their time answering your question in several channels since they might not be in all of them. it's also against policy here, so just don't do it, please.
[14:55] <ducasse> krobzaur: if you're asked to go somewhere specific that is quite different
[14:55] <cerveira> I have one of this http://icecat.us/en/p/toshiba/pslj3e-00x01g03/notebooks-Satellite+L500-13W-3782766.html . I had Kubuntu but I seems slow. What flavor do you recommend?
[14:56] <krobzaur> ducasse: Here as in freenode? Also I feel like if people choose to answer my question they don't perceive it as a waste of time. You are all free to ignore me, in which case I will go elsewhere to ask my question. But if its a policy thing, I'll gladly oblige. I suppose it just confuses me
[14:56] <matteeyah> cerveira lubuntu or xubuntu
[14:57] <cerveira> matteeyah, lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu ?
[14:57] <matteeyah> slightly
[14:57] <matteeyah> almost doesn't make a difference
[14:58] <RobTheBuilder> I use xubuntu because of the mouse
[14:58] <RobTheBuilder> I like mousen.
[14:58] <ducasse> krobzaur: if someone is answering your question in ##linux at the same time someone is writing the exact same answer in #ubuntu, then one of them is wasting his time. you already got the answer elsewhere. but this is very offtopic, i was just informing you.
[14:59] <krobzaur> ducasse: Yeah I suppose thats true, I'll try to be more patient in the future
[15:02] <sruli> matteeyah: any other ideas for my grub problem?
[15:02] <matteeyah> are they an efi or bios installs?
[15:03] <sruli> matteeyah: efi
[15:03] <cerveira> matteeyah, in that case is just a matter of how it looks?
[15:03] <matteeyah> cerveira yes
[15:03] <matteeyah> sruli could you mount your efi partition and list the contents?
[15:03] <matteeyah> most likely mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && tree /mnt
[15:05] <RobTheBuilder> matteeyah: any idea on my snap problem?
[15:05] <matteeyah> did you install ubuntu recently?
[15:05] <sruli> matteeyah: /EFI/ has Boot, Microsoft & ubuntu
[15:06] <RobTheBuilder> matteeyah: about 6 or 5 hours ago
[15:06] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: try 'sudo systemctl restart snapd.refresh.service'
[15:06] <sruli> matteeyah: seems like its missing lubuntu, i guess when it updated grub last time it removed efi, how do i reconfigure grub to use efi?
[15:06] <matteeyah> RobTheBuilder well if all fails you can reinstall then
[15:06] <RobTheBuilder> ducasse: nothing printed.
[15:07] <matteeyah> that's okay
[15:07] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, try again now, sudo snap install discord
[15:07] <ducasse> RobTheBuilder: no, it won't, just give it a minute to finish then try installing again.
[15:07] <bcowan> Sruli probably using the grub.cfg from ubuntu
[15:07] <matteeyah> sruli: hmm, you get the grub screen when booting right?
[15:07] <matteeyah> it doesn't boot straight to lubuntu?
[15:08] <sruli> matteeyah: yes i get the grub screen
[15:08] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, ps -A | grep snapd   what's the timestamp
[15:09] <RobTheBuilder> 00:00:01 snapd
[15:09] <sruli> matteeyah: but the grub scrren only shows lubuntu
[15:09] <matteeyah> sruli: I remember facing something similar some time ago, I had to pop into command line in grub to see which config it's using
[15:10] <sruli> matteeyah: what cmd to i use to see the config?
[15:11] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, probably it's not the timestamp but the cpu time my wrong
[15:11] <billythekido> hi guys. I just updated to ubuntu 17.10 from 16.04. The Wayland option is missing. Any idea how I can install it?
[15:11] <matteeyah> i'm not sure, you can try googling
[15:11] <RobTheBuilder> kostkon: it also says 721 ? before it
[15:11] <matteeyah> billythekido: you probably have an nvidia gpu
[15:12] <billythekido> i do
[15:12] <billythekido> ok incompatible?
[15:12] <matteeyah> yeah :P
[15:12] <billythekido> coolio
[15:12] <billythekido> that was quick :)
[15:12] <ioria> billythekido, the driver not the card :)
[15:12] <billythekido> I assume when I tested it on VM it was virtualizing it right?
[15:13] <RobTheBuilder> Still returning 0 snaps on everything
[15:14] <matteeyah> billythekido: it probably didn't use any gpu
[15:14] <billythekido> makes sense
[15:15] <Hercules> Are there some locales missing I see boxes just below the 'Search' button? I'm new to Ubuntu Desktop https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TClJgA5J/Screenshot%20from%202017-10-29%2020-43-32.png
[15:15] <craigbass76> Did something happen to the MAP stack in 11.10? I upgraded and all the wordpress and custom php stuff I've written is just printing out the actual code.
[15:15] <craigbass76> LAMP stack, not MAP. Duh...
[15:16] <billythekido> alkisg: after all Unity 8 was installed and I had to remove it
[15:16] <billythekido> not much of a hassle though. :)
[15:17] <craigbass76> And, I'm numbing it on version number too. Not 11.10, 17.10
[15:18] <billythekido> Has anybody managed to automate snap installation via ansible?
[15:18] <RobTheBuilder> I'm having trouble with snap.
[15:18] <billythekido> I read that's how I remember it
[15:18] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder, it's a fresh install you say? Try rebooting
[15:18] <RobTheBuilder> kk
[15:18] <Hercules> Anyone see me?
[15:19] <billythekido> we see u Hercules
[15:19] <Hercules> Ah great.
[15:19] <Hercules> I have a question, if anyone interested in answering can scroll up.
[15:21] <craigbass76> Hercules, Google.co.in offered in blahblahblah?
[15:22] <RobTheBuilder_> Restarted, still finding 0 snaps
[15:22] <Hercules> I see boxes instead of characters.
[15:22] <Hercules> Which I don't used to see on Windows
[15:22] <Hercules> Yea in 'Offer in' ;x
[15:25] <sruli> matteeyah: in /etc/default/grub i had GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ... for the life of me i cant figure out why i did that, and cant understand how that didnt trip me up on previous kernel updates
[15:25] <matteeyah> wow, haha, so obscure
[15:26] <RobTheBuilder_> Meh. if i'm reinstalling the OS then I might as well swap back to Windows. I like it more and thought I was only going to be working with 8gigs of space.
[15:26] <linux_user>  Good morning all! I am interested in learning a little bit about UEFI and booting in secure vice insecure mode. I installed 17.10 and encryption password entry notwithstanding, I try to boot in secure mode and keeps forcing Ubuntu to boot insecure, what did I do wrong?
[15:26] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder_, what about  sudo apt-get update  see if that works as it should
[15:26] <linux_user> I also see two ubuntu entries in the menu 3 actually
[15:27] <linux_user> two say "ubuntu" one says "UEFI: ubuntu" or the like
[15:27] <sruli> matteeyah: thanks for ur help
[15:27] <RobTheBuilder_> It seems to be working
[15:27] <linux_user> one of the "ubuntu" entries does not work
[15:28] <craigbass76> Hercules, I don't use Unity or GNOME3, but that srtikes me as a browser setting
[15:30] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder_, you could try reinstalling it.  sudo apt-get clean   and then sudo apt-get install snapd --reinstall
[15:30] <Mentol> dhcpd is not sending the gateway (to dhclient) for a sub-net. How to fix it?
[15:30] <Mentol> I've "option rfc3442-classless-static-routes 24, 192,168,10, 192,168,10,1;" innner of a "subnet" statement
[15:30] <Mentol> And the client is getting that variable (seen in '/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.enp0s8.lease')
[15:30] <Mentol> but it is not setting the gateway
[15:31] <RobTheBuilder_> kostkon: installed no problem, no snaps found.
[15:32] <RobTheBuilder_> Would the fact that i can't manually install packages be connected?
[15:33] <RobTheBuilder_> as in if I were to go to discord.gg and get the linux package they have, it won't install onto my computer.
[15:34] <kostkon> RobTheBuilder_, if i understand what you're saying, no connection whatsoever
[15:35] <RobTheBuilder_> Like I can open it and the software center opens up, but pressing install only puts it into an 'installing' phase for a brief moment before telling me to click to install again.
[15:36] <Xard> hmm, seems like on ubuntu 16.04 lts vulkan with nvidia 384.90 drivers is not working
[15:38] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-384/+bug/1726809
[15:40] <Xard> ioria: thanks
[15:40] <ioria> Xard, no prob
[15:41] <Xard> editing the icd.d file fixed it
[15:41] <Xard> so again, thank you :)
[15:42] <ioria> Xard, ok
[15:43] <RobTheBuilder_> So i probably have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[15:59] <alkisg> RobTheBuilder_: your problem is that you don't find any snaps? Is this a 32bit or 64bit installation?
[16:00] <RobTheBuilder_> Gooood question... How do I check?
[16:00] <alkisg> dpkg --print-architecture
[16:01] <compdoc> next system I build, I want to try the libreoffice snap
[16:03] <RobTheBuilder_> i386
[16:03] <RobTheBuilder_> alkisg:
[16:03] <alkisg> RobTheBuilder_: I'm not using snaps and I don't know much about it, but last time I tried something related, no snaps were shown in i386, and I had to reinstall in amd64 to see them
[16:04] <alkisg> Do mention that you're using i386 when asking about snaps here, I think it makes a big difference
[16:09] <RobTheBuilder_> !cookie | alkisg
[16:09] <RobTheBuilder_> Wow that sounds sarcastic.
[16:10] <alkisg> Haha
[16:10]  * alkisg nevertheless eats the virtual cookie
[16:12] <mmkurd> i have screen tearing while watching videos on chromium
[16:12] <mmkurd> i've a radeon hd 7750 card
[16:13] <mmkurd> i'm on i3-wm, i've tried 'Option "TearFree" "on"' with my driver and compton with vsync
[16:13] <mmkurd> neither worked
[16:13] <mmkurd> any suggestions?
[16:14] <scatterp> hi i have installed gnome-session-fallback and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ...
[16:14] <mmkurd> i've tried more than one compton configuration including this one: https://askubuntu.com/questions/751149/screen-tearing-when-using-i3-none-when-using-unity
[16:14] <RobTheBuilder_> So wait I noticed something... My ubuntu software center isn't the same as the one before... This is like a simple, possible outdated version.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> mmkurd, what about videos played on your hdd/ssd?
[16:15] <mmkurd> i've no videos to test, let me download a sample video
[16:17] <RobTheBuilder_> the software center I'm used to isn't installed o3o
[16:17] <RobTheBuilder_> I'm not entirey sure what I've been using.
[16:21] <mmkurd> BluesKaj, i tested the same video i watched on chromium and i didn't have any tearing while i played it with mpv
[16:24] <RobTheBuilder_> Oh so I figured out why Discord isn't installing. "Wrong arcitecture 'amd64'"
[16:24] <mmkurd> ok BluesKaj, thanks for pointing me the right direction, this fixed it: http://www.theironsamurai.com/chrome-screen-tearing-on-linux-enable-override-software-rendering-list/
[16:24] <RobTheBuilder_> Anyone know a work-around for this?
[16:29] <RobTheBuilder_> OOOOOHHHH it's because everything is 32-bit and not 64 bit.
[16:44] <rajivmars> hi all. i have installed ubuntu 17.10 in my hp laptop. the issue i m facing is  whenever my laptop boots first time after shutdown the brightness  has increased to full when i disconnect the laptop from the power source. after i set it again it works good. but it happens again when i turn the laptop off and turn on again and do the same things for the first time.
[16:44] <rajivmars> any body help me.
[17:00] <Dreaman> why google chrom flick flash
[17:03] <skinux> I just had my system shutdown on it's own, in the process it had a bunch of CPU[0] soft lock problems. Here is a log of all system failures today, can anyone give me an idea of what happened? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/29721917b1584e609876db11cab68f01
[17:09] <texla> Ubuntu 16.04..How to print from wifi to usb printer remotely!!
[17:11] <scatterp> well whats the usb printer pluged in to windows ?
[17:13] <scatterp> skinux i am no expert but it looks like your graphics card got over hot and is about to die you should take it for reballing if what i say is correct
[17:14] <scatterp> skinux is it a laptop thats getting very hot ?
[17:16] <texla> scatterp, as stated operating system is Ubuntu 16.04 printer works when directly hooked up
[17:20] <pavlos> texla: does this help? ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu#Ubuntu_print_server
[17:24] <texla> pavios good starting place thanks for the info
[17:24] <scatterp> hi i have installed gnome-session-fallback and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ...
[17:27] <JFox762> hi
[17:28] <JFox762> Anyone know if there is a way to display a secondary timezone time on the title bar with 17.10?
[17:28] <Neo1> who know how to restar mysql server?
[17:30] <scatterp> sudo service mysql stop
[17:31] <scatterp> sudo service mysql start
[17:33] <Neo1> scatterp: thanks, everything works
[17:36] <codepython777> is there a way to install java 9 from oracle automatically using a shell script without keystrokes - http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/07/31/install-oracle-java-8-9-ubuntu-16-04-linux-mint-18/
[17:37] <codepython777> Seems like oracle pops up a license box to press enter on - perhaps someone knows how to automate this?
[17:40] <codepython777> These two lines are asking for user input---> apt-get -y install oracle-java9-installer ,  update-alternatives --config java
[17:42] <ioria> codepython777, https://askubuntu.com/questions/929932/automate-keystroke-enter-in-curses-with-command-from-bash/930697
[17:42] <ioria> codepython777, but never tried
[17:43] <Neo1> how to off safe mode for mysql permanently?
[17:44] <Neo1> I tired in mysql> sql_mode = 0; and after restart server safe mod was on again
[17:44] <Neo1> or in ISPmanager
[17:44] <codepython777> ioria: thanks
[17:44] <codepython777> I am not sure if that will work with java 9
[17:45] <ioria> codepython777,  no prob
[17:46] <ioria> codepython777,  echo oracle-java9-installer shared/accepted-oracle-license-v1-1 select true | sudo /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections
[17:47] <ioria> codepython777,  or this : echo oracle-java8-installer shared/accepted-oracle-licence-v1-1 boolean true | sudo /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections
[17:47] <codepython777> ioria: apt-get -y --force-yes install oracle-java9-installer -- i think this is the one that asks for a license yes, when installed the first time
[17:47] <codepython777> remember this is java9
[17:47] <ioria> codepython777,  right
[17:48] <codepython777> so that echo is for the installer?
[17:48] <ioria> codepython777,  yep
[17:48] <ioria> it's a pipe
[17:49] <codepython777> echo oracle-java9-installer shared/accepted-oracle-licence-v1-1 boolean true | sudo /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections -- need a way to uninstall cleanly - since it now does not ask for the licese agreement
[17:50] <ioria> codepython777,  yes, better a clean install to test
[17:54] <Neo1> who know where mysql my.ini file?
[17:54] <EriC^^> Neo1: "locate filename"
[17:54] <Neo1> my.ini
[17:54] <Neo1> for mysql
[17:54] <EriC^^> Neo1: type "locate my.ini"
[17:55] <Neo1> EriC^^: http://prntscr.com/h3jwrv
[17:55] <Neo1> comand not found
[17:57] <EriC^^> Neo1: try "find /etc -name my.ini"
[17:58] <Neo1> can't ok
[17:58] <EriC^^> what?
[18:03] <oerheks> some do search for that, or /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[18:04] <oerheks> and  /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf
[18:07] <scragglez> Hey, I recently noticed that my navigation shortcuts stopped working. Especially the switching between desktops (ctrl+alt+right/left/up/down). I've tried restarting but it's not helping. Also have trying to start "gnome-settings-daemon" but unsure how
[18:29] <pavlos> Neo1: re the locate command, sudo apt install mlocate, then sudo updatedb, then locate my.cnf
[18:30] <Neo1> I've found my.ini file
[18:30] <ikonia> locate will only find things in certain paths
[18:30] <scatterp> why so quiet here
[18:31] <ikonia> ISPmanager will probably have moved things around
[18:31] <ikonia> another shoddy tool
[18:33] <EriC^^> ikonia: does it really? i think you're thinking whereis
[18:34] <ikonia> EriC^^: locate still has the locatedb I believe
[18:34] <EriC^^> ikonia: oh you mean before running updatedb it wouldn't find everything?
[18:35] <ikonia> it only knows about what's in it's db
[18:35] <ikonia> I can't remember if that DB contains the full file system by default of if you have to define the path it will search
[18:36] <EriC^^> alright, thanks anyways
[18:38] <Sven_vB_> recently I noticed I have huge directories "linux-headers-*" in /usr/src, are they required by default or did I accidentially opt in to something like kernel development?
[18:40] <ikonia> Sven_vB: do you use an nvidia card ?
[18:41] <Sven_vB> ikonia, nope, at least "lscpi | grep VGA" can only find an "Intel … Integrated …"
[18:41] <ikonia> Sven_vB: did you install the build-essential package ?
[18:41] <ikonia> something like that
[18:41] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: Headers are required to complile new softwares (think for instance graphic's drivers ) . Only the current and a backup is needed . In the process of removing old kernel images these files too will be removed .
[18:41] <winadminguy> I have an amazon lightsail ubuntu server, by default amazon gives ssh keys to connect to the server under the user ubuntu. I would like to create a new user and create keys that will allow him to connect to the server via putty on another  computer. How can I accomplish this.  Can you direct me to documentation i've tried a few times it didn't work.
[18:41] <Sven_vB> ikonia, yes, I think I have. I'll ask apt why
[18:41] <ikonia> as the kernel sources normally only get intsalled if you're building a module (like the nvidia one) or as a dependency for generic build tools
[18:41] <ikonia> Sven_vB: thats why it's there
[18:42] <Sven_vB> ikonia, thanks!
[18:43] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, can deleting them interfere with anything other than compiling new stuff? e.g. stuff that I already compiled with them?
[18:44] <akik> winadminguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
 hi i have installed gnome-session-fallback and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ...
[18:45] <Bashing-om> Well, My take .. as these hearers are a part of the kernel : BAd bad idea to go behind the package manager's back and 'rm' them . Best to 'apt remove'remove the associated kernels .
[18:46] <malkauns> where do i find a list of keycodes used by xdotool?
[18:46] <malkauns> for example what is the # key called?
[18:47] <akik> malkauns: xmodmap -pke gives you something to start with
[18:47] <Bashing-om> malkauns: The tool 'xev' will provide that info .
[18:47] <malkauns> ok thx
[18:48] <scragglez> Hey, my navigation shortcuts(control+alt+ up arrow/down arrow/etc) to switch workspaces recently stopped same with trying to maximize a window. Is this a known issue with a fix?
[18:48] <scragglez> I've tried restarting unity and looking in gconf-editor but that's not helped
[18:56] <Sven_vB> is there a way to configure the linux-headers-* directories to be stored somewhere else than in /usr/src, or at least in a common subdirectory thereof?
[18:57] <ioria> EriC^^, /etc/updatedb.conf
[18:58] <akik> Sven_vB: you could sym link them from elsewher
[18:58] <Sven_vB> akik, yes, but that's only for directory names that I can foretell
[18:58] <akik> Sven_vB: but the installed packages expect that path
[18:58] <ioria> EriC^^,   by default, it cannot search in /proc, /sys  etc.
[18:58] <akik> Sven_vB: you asked for directory options?
[19:03] <Sven_vB> akik, yeah. my main problem is that apt-get sometimes creates new /usr/src/linux-headers-* directories and puts lots of files in them but the /usr partition wasn't planned big enough for that, so I'd like to relocate (via symlink) the headers to something like /mnt/…/app-data/build-essentials
[19:03] <akik> Sven_vB: you could move your whole /usr elsewhere if you're having that kind of problem
[19:04] <bcowan> Sven_vB: you really shouldn’t have more than one or two sets of headers, apt will remove them for you
[19:04] <rxdeath> hey all, i am losing it, does anyone know a good way to fix the copy bug problem
[19:04] <akik> Sven_vB: i'm not sure what happens if /usr/src/directory is a sym link and not a directory apt expects to find
[19:04] <Sven_vB> akik, I consider the other stuff in /usr perfectly fine there, and even some small other stuff that might go in /usr/src if some future package needs that. I'd prefer to just relocate the giants.
[19:04] <rxdeath> whenver i try and copy a large file to usb it takes forever, locks up my mouse, cpu wait starts showing up and disk hits to roof
[19:05] <rxdeath> its super annoying and i've done some thread searching, the few things i've tried have no effect
[19:05] <Sven_vB> bcowan, it seems to only do that for kernels older than the one currently active.
[19:05] <EriC^^> ioria: aha, thanks :)
[19:05] <rxdeath> its maddening my computer is pretty nice so theres no hardware problems
[19:05] <ioria> EriC^^,   np
[19:05] <kostkon> Sven_vB, there isn't enough space for even 1 kernel?
[19:06] <Sven_vB> kostkon, now that I removed 2 old ones, there's enough space. I just don't like the idea of having to keep track of it and add another cleanup chore.
[19:07] <kostkon> Sven_vB, create a cron job that will frequently run apt-get autoremove maybe?
[19:07] <rxdeath> anyone?  copy locks up mouse so it can't be used?
[19:07] <rxdeath> https://askubuntu.com/questions/397249/system-freezes-unresponsive-unusable-when-copying-large-file-to-usb
[19:07] <Sven_vB> kostkon, yeah, that's my fallback plan if I can't find a way to housebreak apt :)
[19:07] <rxdeath> like this, but i've tried to soltions to no avil
[19:08] <kostkon> Sven_vB, ok
[19:08] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: One can configure unattended-upgrades to run autoremove periodically .
[19:08] <rxdeath> i have a nvme drive, but i've been using it for almost a year, and it doesn't happen on the exact samke drive a windows installation on it
[19:08] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, thanks!
[19:08] <ioria> malkauns, xdotool key U0023
[19:10] <rxdeath> is there a better place to go to get any sort of answer than this channel?
[19:11] <madmouser1> rxdeath: try rsync (grsync if you want a GUI)
[19:11] <neurre> hi
[19:11] <neurre> i had installed ubuntu 17.10 alongside windows 10
[19:11] <neurre> it worked fine for couple of days
[19:12] <rxdeath> i'm sure there's ways around it, but its not how it should work, i want to fix the problem not use something else
[19:12] <neurre> but now suddenly grub menu does not show up and i boot straight to windows
[19:12] <neurre> i disabled fast boot from bios and windows, that did not make any difference
[19:12] <neurre> i also disabled secure boot
[19:12] <neurre> any suggestions
[19:12] <neurre> ?
[19:13] <kostkon> !restoregrub | neurre, you could start from here
[19:13] <Bashing-om> nullsen: Windows update ?? broke the boot loader ?
[19:13] <rxdeath> i see the disk go hit the ceiling and i see cpu wait show up when its happening
[19:13] <rxdeath> the mouse won't move
[19:14] <neurre> yes i think it seems plausible some windows update somehow disabled grub
[19:14] <rxdeath> given my 64gb of ram and  12 core i7 a 4 gb file shouldn't lock my ssytem for 4 minutes
[19:14] <JFox762> Anyone know if there is a way to display a secondary timezone time on the title bar with 17.10?
[19:14] <neurre> ok i will try boot repair
[19:14] <neurre> 17.10 installer has boot repair?
[19:15] <rxdeath> i'm 16.04
[19:17] <rxdeath> nothing
[19:17] <rxdeath> is there a room specific to 16.04
[19:18] <kostkon> !patience
[19:22] <madmouser1> rxdeath: only way is to do a step by step diag, i would start with making sure the USB mounted properly without errors, enough cache on the system, figuring out what process is monopolizing the CPU (that would be reason for unresponsive GUI) , check I/O performance to USB disk etcetc
[19:22] <JFox762> hello?
[19:23] <JFox762> Anyone know if there is a way to display a secondary timezone time on the title bar with 17.10?
[19:24] <madmouser1> rxdeath: oh and even before that check file system used on USB.
[19:26] <rxdeath> madmouser1: i have, thanks for the input, but to my extreme rage it works perfectly on my windows laptop
[19:26] <rxdeath> 2 gigs in 30 seconds, no lock
[19:31] <alkisg> rxdeath: I haven't read all the discussion, but if the problem is "copying to usb slows everything", did you try enabling another disk scheduler?
[19:32] <rxdeath> well everything isn't quite right i can still alt-tab change windows, but hte mouse is dead, no i haven't ever done that i can look it up
[19:32] <rxdeath> it's just not a new installation, it was ok for quite a while
[19:33] <alkisg> rxdeath: something like this, to get you going: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2014/10/change-disk-i-0-scheduler-cfq-ubuntu-14-10/
[19:33] <rxdeath> its on a nvme samsung 950 m2 drive
[19:33] <alkisg> Also, try `sudo -i; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches` when this happens, to see if it helps
[19:34] <rxdeath> do i have to do it after it finishes the copy, or in the middle when its draggin ass
[19:34] <alkisg> The first is on boot
[19:34] <alkisg> The second is in the middle of the copy
[19:34] <rxdeath> i know some people says the m.2 or ssds have problems
[19:35] <malkauns> ioria: thx
[19:35] <alkisg> Also check `dmesg` for errors when that happens
[19:35] <rxdeath> but i'm a solar astrophotographer so i was moving hundreds of gigs of a data a day no problem, then all the sudden it starts being a jerk
[19:35] <rxdeath> derp
[19:36] <rxdeath> the old dmesg
[19:36] <malkauns> ioria: also xdotool key numbersign
[19:36] <ioria> malkauns, yes,  or :   xdotool key 108+48   ( these are the numbs you got from xev)
[19:36] <rxdeath> [584729.886404] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 2064    i feel like this is important lol
[19:36] <alkisg> This means bad disk, bad sectors etc
[19:36] <madmouser1> rxdeath: i get your frustration but things do go wrong on all systems (even your beloved Windows ) so there is the quick "use somethhing else and get the job done approach" and the "will calm down and have patience and figure out what is going on approach"
[19:37] <ioria> malkauns,  the names and the unicodes here : https://unicode-table.com/en/#0023
[19:38] <EleanorEllis> I've been an idiot and stored some critical data on a FAT formatted usb stick and corrupted it. Can anyone help me recover it please? I have done the following https://pastebin.com/vMwx3k9Z
[19:38] <EriC^^> rxdeath: try installing smartmontools and run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX and pastebin the results
[19:39] <EriC^^> rxdeath: * /dev/sdd
[19:39] <rxdeath> madmouser1: i rarely use windows, just my work laptop, actually i run gentoo on my system
[19:39] <rxdeath> thereis no emergency, so now is the time to get it fixed not bypass it, but thanks for trying
[19:39] <madmouser1> rxdeath: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1208993
[19:40] <madmouser1> there is some reading and suggestoions
[19:40] <malkauns> ioria: thx
[19:40] <rxdeath> madmouser1: i was on that before icame here and changing those values didn't help
[19:41] <rxdeath> its surprising that this is still a problem when tehre's a 3 year old bug report
[19:41] <ioria> malkauns,  you're welcome
[19:41] <madmouser1> rxdeath: yup
[19:45] <cortexman> how do I enable /dev/udp/* ? bash 4.3.48 ubuntu xenial
[19:45] <rxdeath> EriC^^: i get  https://pastebin.com/DR2jFvRq
[19:45] <rxdeath> i had to use scsi as device type though
[19:45] <rxdeath> its just a usb3 survivor by corsair
[19:46] <EriC^^> rxdeath: oh, the smart test doesn't say much
[19:47] <alkisg> cortexman: open two terminals. In the first, run `nc -u -l 1234`. In the second, run `echo hi > /dev/udp/localhost/1234`
[19:48] <alkisg> cortexman: in other words, it's already "enabled", and that was one example on how to use it
 hi i have installed gnome-session-fallback and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ...
[19:51] <scatterp> i did have this working previously before i reinstalled
[19:58] <rxdeath> i almost want to do a quick install on another old hdd and see if it does the same thing
[19:59] <rxdeath> i just reformatted the drive and tried again, no change
[20:01] <bcowan> Drive or controller sound like they are starting to fail, have you tried badblocks or checking with smartmontools
[20:06] <rxdeath> bcowan: i just tried smart tools and it says almost nothing
[20:06] <rxdeath> https://pastebin.com/DR2jFvRq
[20:08] <bcowan> Need to run with the right switch/test
[20:08] <rxdeath> lol, its doing it right now
[20:09] <rxdeath> becuase of the badblocks test, mouse is dead, cpuwait is up, disk is maxed, but i can type no problem
[20:11] <rxdeath> bcowan: what switches/flags do you recommend for a t3est whenever i get my mouse back
[20:11] <rxdeath> for smart tols
[20:14] <rxdeath> sigh  -- Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)
[20:14] <bcowan> Hmm that makes it more interesting
[20:15] <rxdeath> r/interesting/maddening
[20:15] <bcowan> Dmesg doesn’t throw any errors
[20:15] <rxdeath> [12:36] <rxdeath> [584729.886404] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 2064    i feel like this is important lol
[20:16] <rxdeath> oh weird
[20:17] <rxdeath> i think its unmounting and mounting again
[20:17] <rxdeath> i just tailed dmesg last ime here's the full deal
[20:18] <rxdeath> bcowan: https://pastebin.com/GADUpcRM
[20:18] <rxdeath> thanks for your attention
[20:20] <rxdeath> that might be me unmoutning it to try it somewhere else, but i hope there's somethinhg in there that makes the problem obvious
[20:20] <rxdeath> its such a pita when i'm getting ready to do something and i'll just 'copy this real quick' and i'm down and out for hour because of this
[20:20] <bcowan> Maybe a cable is loose, that would be the lucky thing
[20:20] <rxdeath> a cable on my usb flash drive?  or my m.2 drive that the os is on?  :)
[20:25] <bcowan> Either a bad connection or controller is going bad
[20:25] <rxdeath> bew
[20:25] <rxdeath> motherboard is like a year old
[20:26] <Jordan_U> rxdeath: Still working on fixing problems with long copies slowing the rest of the system down?
[20:27] <Sven_vB> is it an indication of a broken system when apt cannot find a reason why package linux-generic should be installed, and thus suggests to remove it?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> rxdeath: https://lwn.net/Articles/682582/ I don't know which upstream kernel release this change was first available in, but I don't think it's in the kernel that comes with Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:32] <Sven_vB> nevermind, linux-generic seems to conflict with openoffice. that's good enough a sign something's gone brown.
[20:32] <rxdeath> still no love
[20:32] <rxdeath> tried rebooting to check if bios was ahci and it is
[20:32] <rxdeath> seems like copying to usb without locking up the os would be a basic requirement for the os
[20:32] <Jordan_U> rxdeath: https://lwn.net/Articles/682582/ I don't know which upstream kernel release this change was first available in, but I don't think it's in the kernel that comes with Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:33] <bcowan> All those dropped usb connections and remounts are a sign something else is going on
[20:34] <bcowan> And I/o errors
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: What does the package manager think ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[20:34] <cristian_c> hello
[20:35] <cristian_c> How could I enable/switch to evdev once installed?
[20:35] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[20:35] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, answer will take a few minutes, machine is rebooting
[20:35] <ikonia> Sven_vB: out of interest did you remove the kernel source packages ?
[20:35] <rxdeath> bcowan: i think that might have been me just unmoutning and mounting it after trying other things
[20:36] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I'm dping a tsst, todsy I've removed motherboard from the case, and I've connected power supply, hdd, and display, using mobo out of the case
[20:37] <bcowan> Switching schedulers may help, idk. Could ask people’s opinions on that
[20:37] <cristian_c> (I've turned it on touching pwr pins by a screwdriver ( ^_^ 9
[20:38] <Sven_vB> ikonia, I'm not sure. I deleted some old-looking /usr/src/linux-headers-* directories and then ran puppet to test my new symlink rules for /usr/src . it might have changed package selections.
[20:40] <rxdeath> maybe i should just upgrade, but it seems unrealistic that ubuntu just had garbage copy to usb for whatever reason, someone has to have cared enough to fixed whatever was overlooked
[20:40] <rxdeath> i cna't believe a LTS has this problem
[20:42] <ikonia> Sven_vB: you didn't remove the packages !!!!
[20:42] <ikonia> Sven_vB: you where directly advised against removing the directories
[20:42] <ikonia> your dependencies will be screwed now
[20:42] <pavlos> rxdeath: what the filesystem on the usb?
[20:43] <pavlos> what's
[20:43] <Sven_vB> ikonia, oh. looks like I missed that advice.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> rxdeath: It's not an Ubuntu specific problem. The linux kernel has had terrible problems with background writeback forever, and it was only fixed relatively recently.
[20:45] <bcowan> rxdeath: like Jordan_U said, maybe try a newer kernel see if the problem is still there
[20:45] <rxdeath> yea i think i'm stuck doing that, i've tried a few flash drives and on some its better, but still there
[20:45] <rxdeath> pavlos: ext4, exfat, fat32   i've tried sticks with all of them
[20:47] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, apt-get --fix-broken install suggests to install linux-headers-4.4.0-98, and it no longer thinks it conflicts with libreoffice (openoffice was my mistake earlier). sounds good to me so I'll try that.
[20:48] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, dpkg --audit finished quickly with no output.
[20:48] <rxdeath> yea it all gets into the buffer really fast
[20:48] <rxdeath> but then i see the cpu io wait color in my sys monitor and the mouse starts to die, its a wireless mouse, the keyboard is fine, but that's i/o errors of some sort
[20:49] <rxdeath> i guess i'll try the new kernel, not much else left to try
[20:49] <rxdeath> rarely does linux disappoint me, but this is one of those times
[20:55] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, thanks for reminding me of the -f option to apt, seems like everything is back to normal now.
[21:04] <royal_screwup21> Say you write the word "abc" in  a 100 .txt files. I want to replace "abc" with "xyz" in all of those text files. What would be the easiest way to do that?
[21:05] <ikonia> sed
[21:10] <bcowan> royal_screwup21: sed
[21:12] <rxdeath> bcowan: should i just make al ive disk of 16043 and try booting from that?
[21:17] <bcowan> rxdeath: sure or 17.10 or an hwe kernel from the repos or Ukuu and test the latest mainline...whichever u prefer
[21:25] <Toadisattva> running lubuntu 16.04 lts on an ancient p4 machine (2.6 ghz single core p4 processor, 2 gb ram) trying to install drivers for nvidia geforce 2 400/mx card, can anyone point me the right direction? I keep ended up black screening the system
[21:26] <akik> Toadisattva: i used the nvidia-304-updates for an older card
[21:26] <Toadisattva> graphics-drivers ppa then just apt-get nvidia-304-updates?
[21:27] <akik> Toadisattva: check with apt-cache policy nvidia-304-updates
[21:27] <akik> Toadisattva: i think it should be in the standard repos
[21:29] <Toadisattva> hmm I'm even getting the black screen trying to boot into grub now
[21:29] <Toadisattva> okay got grub booting recovery mode enable networking and dropping to root
[21:30] <Toadisattva> apt cache policy tells me installed none and showes me a candidate version table and such
[21:31] <Toadisattva> so is it as simple as apt-get install nvidia-304-updates?
[21:31] <akik> Toadisattva: not sure if you need to remove the current one first
[21:31] <akik> Toadisattva: otherwise yes that'll do
[21:31] <Toadisattva> apt-get remove --purge nvidia* should take of that if so?
[21:32] <Toadisattva> seems to be letting me install it okay without yelling at me
[21:33] <Toadisattva> yeah it's removing the one I had previously on it's own
[21:34] <Toadisattva> yay hope hope hope
[21:34]  * Toadisattva crosses fingers
[21:34] <Toadisattva> thanks for the help btw :)
[21:37] <akik> Toadisattva: yea well i have two of older machines that i that with :)
[21:37] <akik> use with
[21:38] <Toadisattva> installed and rebooting we'll see what happens
[21:38] <riotz> there is some crappy icon resizing problem on my terminal window when i'm using the nvidia drivers on ubuntu 17.10.. see https://ibb.co/gGsfO6
[21:38] <riotz> anyone got a clue how to fix this?
[21:42] <Toadisattva> nope still got the black screen
[21:43] <akik> Toadisattva: try adding nomodeset kernel parameter
[21:43] <akik> !nomodeset
[21:44] <Toadisattva> I got grub hit e to bring up the boot line, just add !nomodeset to the end?
[21:44] <akik> Toadisattva: without the !
[21:44] <Toadisattva> gotcha
[21:44] <Toadisattva> error can't find command nomodeset
[21:45] <Toadisattva> oh it's doing something now
[21:45] <Toadisattva> brought me to recovery mode
[21:45] <akik> Toadisattva: it needs to go to the line starting with linux
[21:45] <Toadisattva> ah okay
[21:47] <Guma> I have 24 inch monitor that I rotated 90deg and I can rotate desktop 90 deg after logging in. But before I login I see logon prompt Not rotated. Is there a way to rotate screen on boot so my login prompt is also rotated?
[21:48] <Toadisattva> I got a lubuntu splash screen that was blue and had it written very poorly kinda choppy/flashy now I just have a black screen with a blinking cursor
[21:49] <Toadisattva> cntrl alt f1 gets me the login for just a second then it goes back to the cursor
[21:50] <akik> Toadisattva: if you can, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it has pointers to what might be wrong
[21:50] <Toadisattva> ctrl alt del brought me back to the blue spashscreen
[21:50] <Toadisattva> k lets see here
[21:53] <Toadisattva> tried with gedit but got an error "failed to connec to mir: failed to connect to server socket: no such file or directory"
[21:53] <akik> Toadisattva: did you check at nvidia website which driver would be the correct one?
[21:54] <ntd> i've asked before but never really gotten a straight answer: are there plans to include 17.10/4.13 kernel into xenial main repos before q1/2 2018?
[21:54] <Toadisattva> I had downloaded the correct .run from their website but ran into issues with that too
[21:54] <akik> Toadisattva: which version was it?
[21:55] <akik> lol i get 404 errors from geforce downloads
[21:55] <Toadisattva> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.23-pkg1.run
[21:56] <Toadisattva> it tells me my kernel header file doesn't exist
[21:56] <Toadisattva> when I try running it
[21:56] <akik> Toadisattva: linux-headers package maybe missing
[21:57] <Toadisattva> specific version is 4.10.0-28-generic
[21:58] <akik> Toadisattva: you can install it with sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.10.0-28-generic
[21:58] <akik> Toadisattva: i'm wondering what task asks for the headers?
[21:59] <Toadisattva> says already the newest version
[21:59] <Toadisattva> then tells me I can autremove unnecessary files
[21:59] <Toadisattva> I can't get the log up with gedit is there another alternative text editor I can use to read the log?
[22:00] <akik> Toadisattva: do you have xorg running?
[22:00] <akik> Toadisattva: nano is for text mode
[22:00] <Toadisattva> lets see
[22:00] <Toadisattva> ah nano! forgot about that
[22:00] <Braybaut> Toadisattva, to read logs you can use less or tail
[22:01] <Toadisattva> I tried sudo lightdm stop and it gave me all kinda funky messages and I'm back to the bliking cursor
[22:02] <akik> Toadisattva: could be that even v304 is too new for your card
[22:02] <Toadisattva> failed to get system bus faild to get d-bus connection and stuff was the messages I got back to the root command line
[22:02] <Toadisattva> I suspect that may be the case this thing is ancient
[22:02] <akik> Toadisattva: there's also the open source nouveau module. did you test with it?
[22:03] <akik> https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/
[22:04] <akik> Toadisattva: geforce 2 is listed there
[22:04] <Toadisattva> that's the default right? everything worked fine before I tried fiddling with nvidia drivers
[22:04] <Toadisattva> but I was getting graphical errors with emulation station in particular
[22:04] <JFox762> hey, can someone help me figure out this error message?
[22:04] <Toadisattva> so I though maybe installing the proprietary drivers might sort it
[22:04] <akik> Toadisattva: yes it's the default
[22:05] <JFox762> 'Viber.deb' is not a Debian package.
[22:05] <akik> Toadisattva: i think it's your best bet now
[22:05] <JFox762> The Mime type of hti sfile is 'application/x-debian-package' and can not be installed on this system
[22:05] <akik> Toadisattva: what kind of graphical errors?
[22:06] <auronandace> JFox762: where did you get it from?
[22:06] <Toadisattva> like the images in ES for the systems weren't coming up and stuff
[22:06] <JFox762> Viber's website
[22:06] <Toadisattva> appears to be open gl errors, got the same thing with the internal graphics not using the card as well
[22:07] <auronandace> JFox762: what versions of ubuntu does it list as supported?
[22:07] <JFox762> https://www.viber.com/products/linux/
[22:07] <JFox762> website doesn't specify
[22:07] <JFox762> But it says tested on Ubuntu and Fedora
[22:08] <JFox762> But I have 17.10
[22:08] <akik> Toadisattva: do you think it's limited to that one application? what is ES, btw?
[22:08] <Toadisattva> emulation station
[22:08] <Toadisattva> it could very well be that program compatibility
[22:09] <auronandace> JFox762: my guess would be they made it work with a lts release. perhaps it worked on 14.04 or 16.04
[22:09] <Toadisattva> I guess my question now is how do I get back to nouveau at this point?
[22:09] <JFox762> When is the next LTS?
[22:09] <akik> Toadisattva: i removed the nvidia drivers and it went back to nouveau
[22:09] <auronandace> JFox762: 18.04
[22:10] <auronandace> JFox762: just because it ran on a previous lts release is not a guarantee it will work on later ones
[22:10] <akik> Toadisattva: maybe you need a newer card :)
[22:10] <auronandace> JFox762: you'll need to browse their forums for support
[22:10] <Toadisattva> haha yeah I was just trying to repurpose this old one if I could
[22:10] <Toadisattva> the program worked fine with a newer card in this same machine previously
[22:12] <Toadisattva> maybe I'll just have to use a different frontend to play my old games
[22:12] <akik> Toadisattva: your machine is about 15 years old?
[22:13] <JFox762> hmm ok
[22:13] <Toadisattva> I think around 10 ish years
[22:13] <Toadisattva> iirc got this one new around 2007 or so
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Toadisattva: I run an old 2007 system ( AMD dual core ) upgraded grahic's crd .. no issues with xubuntu as the OS .
[22:15] <akik> Toadisattva: geforce 2 mx was released in 2000 :)
[22:16] <Toadisattva> yeah that came out of another machine
[22:16] <Toadisattva> maybe I should just go with the integrated graphics on this machine
[22:24] <Toadisattva> oh well, thanks for all the assistance
[22:25] <akik> Toadisattva: was it just the ES that didn't work right?
[22:25] <Toadisattva> yeah pretty sure that was just an open gl support issue, it gave me display under nouveau
[22:26] <Toadisattva> just didn't work with that proggy
[23:20] <coffeeguy> hey hey anyone running ubu with a vega rx?
[23:20] <coffeeguy> wanted to here some first hand experiences ?
[23:26] <Haroon> Hello!
[23:27] <b0ddan> Hello
[23:27] <Haroon> There's a bash completion script that I want to enable for all users without having to go through adding it as source to each individual user's .bash_profile
[23:27] <Haroon> How do I go about doing that? I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[23:29] <nullsen> Bashing-om: No, I'm /dev/nullsen :D
[23:30] <nchambers> Put it in /etc/bash_profile?
[23:30] <Haroon> nchambers: Oh OK...lemme try that. Thanks. :)
[23:31] <nchambers> But why not let everyone use what they want?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> nullsen: And I be guilty of not paying attention to my tab completes :(
[23:32] <Haroon> nchambers: It's for a server specifically to be used to serve WordPress websites, and the script in question is autocompletion for the wp-cli commandline, and hence will be useful for every user account on the server.
[23:33] <nchambers> Ah
[23:33] <Haroon> Also, I'll be the primary person using each of those individual accounts, so it'll be easier for me.
[23:33] <Haroon> I'm using a separate account for each website on the server for security purposes. :)
[23:34] <Haroon> PS: Just checked.../etc/bash_profile doesn't exist. Should I simply create a directory by that name?
[23:35] <Haroon> I see /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_completion, both of which are files rather than directories.
[23:41] <p1l0t> So I installed nvidia drivers for my gtx 1060 from the website and no my computer freezes on the login screen but I can't even do ctrl-alt-f1
[23:42] <p1l0t> dropping to the root prompt has no networking though even when I enable networking
[23:42] <arvin_> Haroon: should be /etc/profile
[23:43] <Haroon> Thanks arvin_.
[23:44] <p1l0t> Do I have to wipe everything and reinstall?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | p1l0t Try this and advise :
[23:46] <Haroon> arvin_: /etc/profile isn't a directory either :(
[23:47] <arvin_> it should be a file
[23:47] <arvin_> you can source it in there
[23:49] <Haroon> Oh OK. I do see /etc/profile.d as well. Would placing it in there work?
[23:52] <arvin_> yeah, better idea
[23:53] <p1l0t> Bashing-om: I'm confused where to add these lines. I pressed E with Ubuntu highlighted but do I just add them anywhere under setparams? Do I add them all at once or try one at a time?
[23:56] <arvin_> p1l0t: you can also use a live cd, then use the chroot method to mount your ubuntu partition and uninstall the drivers
[23:57] <Bashing-om> p1l0t: With a kernel highlighted, press 'e' key -> boot parameters screen, Here arrow down to the line starting with linux, and arrow over to "quiet splash" replace these terms with nomodeset . key combo ctl+x to contunue the boot proces . IF you can boot to a terminal we can work to get the system cleaned up and a driver installed .