[05:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> morning Sveta :p
[05:46] <Sveta> morning lotuspsychje :) i am eyeballing http://www.glump.net/howto/desktop/create-global-shortcut-keys-for-rhythmbox-music-player-in-any-desktop and hoping that ubottu's unity advice you gave is going to work
[05:48] <Sveta> then i find https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/950743, it may be relevant
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Sveta: such an old bug on artful?
[05:50] <Sveta> it's 5 years old and makara faces similar symptom
[05:50] <Sveta> at least it tells me that they need a dbus plugin enabled in their rhytmbox
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> yeah sympton is same as bug indeed
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> but i presume later rythmbox version on all this years should have fixxed it no?
[05:52] <Sveta> they probably has a missing package
[05:54] <Sveta> this silence is disturbing
[05:54] <Sveta> i don't want to give them 'ppa is unsupported' advice, i need to get info from them first
[05:54] <Sveta> get info, like output of apt install
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:54] <Sveta> then they go silent
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Sveta: 2 things are a kill for systems, upgrades & ppa's add
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> seen alot of them in the past
[05:56] <dax> i wish ubuntu had a https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> what does that do dax?
[05:57] <dax> it's a page you throw at people doing stupid things
[05:57] <dax> like mixing repository versions and installing crap off nvidia's website
[05:58] <dax> (and presumably, in our case, thoughtless adding of PPAs)
[05:58] <Sveta> i'm trying to figure out whether it's from a ppa or not by asking for policy output
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> hmm good idea for ubuntu factoid?
[05:58] <dax> if there were a wikipage, a link to it from ubottu would be a good idea
[05:59] <dax> the wikis and i do not get along well at all, i gave up a few years ago
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> i see
[05:59] <Sveta> ok that is not a ppa
[06:00] <Sveta> !info rhythmbox-plugins
[06:00] <Sveta> what about artful
[06:00] <Sveta> !info rhythmbox-plugins/artful
[06:00] <Sveta> !info rhythmbox-plugins artful
[06:00] <dax> space, not /
[06:01]  * dax checks on his request to get that fixed
[06:01] <dax> oh, only a couple of days ago. will poke next time he's around
[06:02] <Sveta> i'm confused... where'd they get librhythmbox-core10 3.4.2 from..
 hubby's computer is having a bad time. the monitor is full of weird colors and lines (ubuntu 16.04)
[06:04] <Sveta> i read that as 'computer is having a bed time'
[06:04] <dax> version number google would suggest https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/apps?field.series_filter=zesty
[06:05] <Sveta> so they need to 1) remove the ppa 2) purge everything they've got from that ppa 3) install rhythmbox and rhythmbox-plugins from the official repo
[06:05] <Sveta> (1) i can google, (2) i have no idea, (3) is easy
[06:05] <dax> yes. ppa-purge will handle at least the first 2 of those, i forget whether it also handles the third
[06:06] <Sveta> i think it does
[06:06] <Sveta> so it would be `sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/apps`
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> dependecy errors mostly scrambled system theirselfs..
[06:07] <Sveta> if this is the case, they need to be told to read the output carefully in case they're using another useful package from that ppa
[06:07] <Sveta> yes, i'm waiting on output of `apt-cache policy librhythmbox-core10` to determine whether they're using a ppa
[06:14] <Sveta> i need to head out
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> laterz mate
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !unity
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !wayland
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> dax: another one to fix :p
[06:15] <dax> fun
[06:15] <dax> !search mir
[06:16] <dax> oh right, *mir*ror, bleh
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[06:20] <Sveta> laters
[06:20] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[06:20] <dax> we have any wikipages for wayland issues yet?
[06:20] <dax> wiki.ubuntu.com's Wayland page is not very helpful
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> dax: lemme look for that
[06:22] <dax> k. so far I'm thinking !wayland is <reply> Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. Ubuntu 17.10 onwards use Wayland by default on systems that support it.
[06:22] <dax> with an extra sentence if we have somewhere to point to
[06:22] <dax> !mir
[06:22] <dax> looks fine already, i just fixed the version to 17.10
[06:22] <dax> the second version that is
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> cant find any decent wayland
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> just that older wiki
[06:23] <dax> will just use the FDO homepage i guess, meh
[06:24] <dax> i forget if this is instant
[06:24] <dax> !wayland
[06:24] <dax> guess so
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> nice one
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> until new wiki thats perfect
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> alot of questions arising at main lately, like xrandr replacement,..etc
[06:28] <dax> k, gonna go see if i can get sqlite to cooperate and give me a list of http factoids
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:31] <dax> sqlite> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM facts f WHERE value LIKE '%http:%';
[06:31] <dax> 465
[06:31] <dax> hrm.
[06:33] <dax> 386 after i ignore the <deleted> ones. this is gonna be tedious.
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[06:36] <dax> yeah. i'm gonna go by domain i think
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> dax: this usefull? https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland
[06:37] <dax> thankfully ubottu supports !foo =~ s/bar/baz/ to replace "bar" with "baz" in factoid "foo", so it won't be absolutely awful
[06:37] <dax> (e.g. i just got all the factoids containing http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and can now use that on each of them without needing to know the contents of the factoid, so i can mock up the commands in a text editor)
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:40] <dax> 06:39 < ubottu> You've given me 10 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 2 minutes.
[06:40] <dax> apparently "invalid commands" includes valid Encyclopedia commands. great.
[06:48] <dax> oh excellent, the copy of the factoid database on the website is from 2015
[07:08] <dax> down to 308, will poke at it more tomorrow
[07:15] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:38] <ducasse> good morning
[08:14] <ikonia> win 8
[08:14] <ikonia> oops
[08:24] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[08:24] <ducasse> hiya lordievader, how's your morning?
[08:26] <lordievader> Okay, bit tired.
[08:26] <lordievader> How are you?
[08:27] <ducasse> about the same, fighting to wake up :)
[08:30] <lordievader> Good luck
[08:34] <ducasse> you too - have some coffee, it usually does the trick :)
[09:01] <lordievader> Just did, it goes a little better now :)
[10:14] <jink> COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEE O_______o
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:10] <Ben64> apport is spying on you!
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oh lord
[13:12] <BluesKaj> someone has put a bug in his ear ...that's where the bug is :-0
[13:19] <Ben64> how does this guy get through life
[13:30] <Ben64> ah, it's a troll
[13:31] <Ben64> had me fooled till the sigyn name drop
[13:32] <BluesKaj> he thinks the chat has become his personal blog ...we need room for real issues that others have
[13:33] <Ben64> yeah
[13:35] <Ben64> just filling the channel with nonsense
[13:44] <ducasse> "sending memory dumps behind my back" - lol
[13:48] <Ben64> yep
[13:48] <Ben64> i tried for a bit and realized it was hopeless
[18:47] <Bashing-om> Hello Monday support . We can do this :)
[19:33] <dax> hrm, no daily ISOs for bionic yet
 My computer froze, I hard-shutoff, and now my trackpad is malfunctioning. How do I restore it to its original functionality?
[23:14] <Sveta> <big sigh>
[23:14] <daftykins> o0
 demophobia: what are the symptoms?
 Sveta, frequently click-dragging (highlighting?) when i'm trying only to move the cursor with my finger
[23:16] <Sveta> Tempting to send them off to #ubuntu-touch so have someone assist them with calibrating screen sensitivity settings.
[23:16] <Sveta> Ah, crap.
[23:17] <daftykins> screens aren't touchpads
[23:33] <TJ-> Here's something I think is of interest - a replacement for bloated UEFI using the Linux kernel: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15579592
[23:42] <daftykins> yep, everything is broken