[13:36]  * xnox wishes there was pesimistic dad option </smirk>
[13:46] <apw> xnox, pesimistic dad is never an option, it is the only state
[13:56] <Peng> Try setting dad_transmits to 2^31-1. :P
[18:59] <LocutusOfBorg> how to make torvalds sad 651e28c5537abb39076d3949fb7618536f1d242e -> 80c094a47dd4ea63375e3f60b5e076064f16e857
[19:03] <mamarley> Is that the AppArmor breakage thing?
[19:07] <jjohansen> hrmmm, lets say yes, but it is more complicated than that.
[19:07] <LocutusOfBorg> don't know
[19:08] <LocutusOfBorg> problem is: breaking kernel and not reverting/fixing is bad
[19:08] <LocutusOfBorg> anyhow, not my problem :)
[19:09] <jjohansen> to be precise if your userspace was configured to load policy using the running kernel feature abi and your local policy was not updated for this it would cause breakage because the kernel was enforcing the policy that was not allowing access to things those tasks wanted
[21:16] <trippeh> have you been in denial jjohansen :)
[22:17] <jjohansen> trippeh: in denial? Why yes I live in a state of denial all the time, it helps makes reality conform to my pov
[22:19] <TJ-> I wish that worked for overlayfs! Is there any way (from userspace) to determine if a file-system is usable with overlayfs, as (lowerdir|upperdir|workdir) ?