[08:42] morning boys and girls. [09:58] anyone else getting hassled to replace their meter with a smart one? [10:07] Morning, just upgraded to 17.10, and I found a bug, but not sure what component to report it to, it's about the icons indicating unread messages from chat apps, like slack and etc , they do not refresh only just when I mouse over it [10:19] That'd be the ubuntu dock [10:21] gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock === Oli`` is now known as Oli [10:25] Morning all [10:25] foobarry: Yup... can't be bothered though.. [10:25] Any of you guys using Draytek routers in your work place ? [10:28] SuperMatt: Thx [12:12] Draytek? Wow, not used one of them for at least 10 years. Hard to find over here in Canada. :) [12:36] All ours customers have them, so about 100+ of them in the network as such [12:37] Looking at monitoring/updating/configuring via there software, having some issues with it though. [12:37] foobarry: I get the off missive about that, have simply ignored it for now. I don't see any advantage to them and they become dumb meters agains when one switches supplier. Also, how can I trust the readings? [12:38] That was my question to the guy who came around TwistedLucidity [12:39] Also, security. [12:40] Imagine they'd been affected by Krack, Heatbleed, A.N.Other - how long (to the nearest year) would it take for updates to be rolled out? [12:42] as soon as you buy the new kit :-) [15:05] i've been called 3 times by british gas about it [15:05] inthe last 2 days [15:31] foobarry: Got a smart meter here a couple years back. Electricity bill went down after it's install. [15:34] everyone must get one within two years iirc [15:35] the government is mandating it I think I read [15:36] oh I'm wrong. gov.uk says there's no mandate [15:36] "Smart meters will be rolled out as standard across the country by the end of 2020. But there is no legal obligation on individuals to have one." [15:36] that's from gov.uk [15:38] I suppose I could do with one for the electricity [15:38] I already have a smart meter for the shared heating system (no gas) [15:43] didn't they already have to change the first batch? [15:43] and why would bills go down? [15:44] More awareness [15:44] I expect the reason it would go down is the readins are accurate [15:44] That too, no guessing [15:44] My gas/electric people can't get in to read mine without me there [15:44] And I never remember to update :) [15:45] I worry if I update, I'll be stung for a huge amount of unpaid bills [15:45] hahah me too [15:45] Also, they can remotely cut you off I believe, but as said earlier, it's not if, just when... suppose I'll do it at some point [15:45] Wish I could poll the data though [17:03] when i try to call people using skype for linux beta, it crashes *their* skype client. lol [17:29] omg. grand negas Zek is on last week's Mr Robot [17:30] I only know by the voice [17:32] wallace shawn [17:44] I can't imagine many of you use O365 Personal (I do because reasons :)) .. https://blogs.office.com/en-us/2017/10/30/premium-outlook-com-features-now-available-to-office-365-subscribers/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:18] and just reading they seem to be backing away from office 365 premium service... === ryneke is now known as synul === synul is now known as ryneke === gaz_ is now known as gaz- === gaz- is now known as gaz_ === gaz_ is now known as gaz- [18:50] https://twitter.com/TheRichWoods/status/925071855987421185 [18:59] microsoft getting it right. if that's not yhe proof we're living in mirror universe dystopia nothing is!!! :-P === ryneke is now known as synul [23:32] I'm just going to leave this here: https://t.co/xYhs6nzNzT [23:33] o0 [23:33] diddledan: do you like cats? do you like TVs? [23:33] yes. yes. [23:34] https://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/index.php/s/IqohQoaEkAA4wKC [23:34] now see them, combined! [23:35] \o/ [23:36] that's the lovely new 55" LG OLED B7 for London, gave it a quick test out - the kittens however had other ideas [23:38] if you have netflix and a few hours free, watch the webseries "Dramaworld" it's fun [23:38] each episode is around 15-20 minutes [23:39] i can't even get myself to stop putting twitch streams on in the background and watch Stranger Things s2 [23:39] I haven't started watching that one yet