[00:00] Bashing-om: Yeah it's still freezing on the login screen and I can't switch to a command-prompt [00:00] arvin_: Simply placing it in /etc/profile.d didn't work. I even did a chown to root:root over there, since all other files there were owned by root too. :( Do I need to reload something for the changes to come into effect? [00:00] can anyone tell me how to update the ulimit for nofiles (soft/hard) for a non-root user on ubuntu 17.10 without restarting the whole server? when i edit /etc/security/limist.conf and /etc/systemd/user|system.conf and set the nofiles limits, then logout of the box and back on, the new settings for the user don't take effect. am i missing something? [00:01] Haroon: if you dropped in /etc/profile.d, /etc/profile has a for-loop that'll run each script. so the next time they login or run source /etc/profile should run it i believe [00:02] p1l0t: Only other thought I have is to boot a liveUSB(DVD) to the boot screen and here in the live environment try " boot from first hard drive " . see when what we can do . [00:03] Bashing-om: I'll try to find my bootable usb [00:05] arvin_: I tried logging out and back in from another account, and that didn't work. Running source /etc/profile doesn't do anything either, other than taking away syntax highlighting for some reason. [00:06] hi all. I've installed Ubuntu 17.10 but GDM doesn't work (nor the gnome session). I just see a pinkish screen for GDM and the wallpaper when I start the X session manually with startx. I have an AMD Radeon RX480 card, am using amgpu, have blacklisted "radeon" module but so far nothing works. [00:07] Does anybody have any tips or ideas I could try to make this thing work? [00:10] Bashing-om: Try Ubuntu without installing? [00:10] what is the apt command to remove unneeded kernels? [00:11] my /boot is full [00:11] sudo apt autoremove [00:11] Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. [00:11] yes, that. thanks === jstein_ is now known as jstein [00:14] p1l0t: No, you want to get to the Boot menu . Reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears press a key -> language screen; escape key to accept th default -> boot menu . [00:17] Bashing-om: I have a terminal up [00:18] p1l0t: Great .. we got networking ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ? [00:20] Bashing-om: 64 bytes in 109ms [00:21] Bashing-om: So yes [00:22] p1l0t: So far so good , Now is this terminal in the install of the liveUSB ? what returns ' cat /etc/fstab ' as we must work from within the install . === purist_ is now known as purist [00:24] Haroon: not sure. check out this thread: https://askubuntu.com/questions/438150/scripts-in-etc-profile-d-being-ignored [00:24] aufs / aufs rw 0 0 [00:24] Thanks arvin_...taking a look. [00:24] Bashing-om: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid, no dev 0 0 [00:25] adioe3: I have an RX480 myself and have no issue with the default drivers that came with 17.10. Did you do an upgrade or fresh install? Does Wayland work? [00:26] p1l0t: Nope . that is a terminal from within the live environment . No will workie for what we have to do . "Boot from first hard drive" should get you into the install . [00:27] Bashing-om: I don't think that was an option [00:29] Bashing-om: I have Try ubuntu without installing, install ubuntu, oem install, and check disc for defects [00:36] Bashing-om: Maybe I should try a chroot and do some updates? [00:38] BBL [00:38] p1l0t: What you want in this inst ace ( easier than a change root) is " Advanced Welcome Page Options" See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions . [00:57] cannot start gdm/gnome with amdgpu (rx480) on 17.10 [00:57] anybody else experience this? [01:00] are you using official mad drivers or default open-source stack? [01:00] *amd [01:00] stock amdgpu that comes with the stock 4.13 kernel [01:08] hmm, as am I. can you paste the output of: glxinfo|pastebinit [01:10] so, on 17.10 i can in fact log in (enter + typein password + enter) but i see no controls in GDM nor in the gnome session [01:10] weeeeird [01:10] anybody else having this? [01:13] adioe3: What do you see? === albech1 is now known as albech [01:15] adioe3: Is this an upgrade or a fresh install? Can you reproduce the problem from an Ubuntu 17.10 LiveUSB? [01:35] Can't there be multiple versions of VirtualBox on the repo besides 5.0? [01:38] anyone? [01:39] Some1NamedNate: With very few exceptions, there will only ever be one version of any given piece of software in a given release of Ubuntu's repositories at a time. [01:40] Some1NamedNate: What is your end goal? What release of Ubuntu are you using? [01:41] Xubuntu 16.04.3(?) on VirtualBox 5.2.0 under Windows 10 [02:01] How can i make ubuntu 17.10 does not sleep when i close my laptop [02:23] is software listed in ubuntu software allowed to be proprietary? im not a programmer so not looking to publish but just curious [02:30] edisonbulb: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Removing_.26_Disabling_Repositories . [02:31] edisonbulb: yes, it includes software in restricted and multiverse if those repositories are enabled (see Bashing-om's link) and may include proprietary snaps, it's been a while since I checked [02:31] thanks for the info! :) [02:45] Hello! I'm trying to setup port forwarding to my Ubuntu Server. I tested the port forwarding bit by having my laptop run a python http server temporarily and it worked. Now however when I set the forwarding rule to the NAS it will not respond. What network values can I check to try and fix this? === aditya_ is now known as adityaduggal === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [04:35] hello how do I upgrade bash to 4.4.12 on ubuntu 16.04? [04:40] I recently upgraded to 17.10 and for some reason my konsole application can't be added to the favourites on the unity taskbar? [04:40] Anyone finding this issue with any other app? All my others seems to work just fine. [04:41] If I drag it there manually, when I launch it I get a duplicated icon. [04:52] can anyone in here help with ICS on ubuntu 16.04.3 ? im having trouble giving an ip address to a device i have connected my ethernet. i think my network manager may be the cause. [05:11] is there something i could supply to `journalctl -f -u MyUnitHere` to strip the date/hostname/process/pid: prefix from output? [05:27] hi does/has anyone used utox? [05:27] is it decent/good/usable [05:27] !info utox [05:27] Package utox does not exist in artful [05:28] yeah is not in the repos :( [05:28] thats why i ask [05:28] and i wonder why it isnt [05:29] because nobody got around to packaging it, looks like [05:30] there was a bug about it in Debian, not seeing any blockers, just someone needs to put in the work [05:31] glick: perhaps you might ask for an alternative? what does this package do exactly? [05:31] it's a client for the tox instant messaging protocol [05:31] lotuspsychje, its supposedly a secure distributed skype and chat resplacement [05:31] what dax said [05:31] glick: telegram is pretty 'safe' and decent [05:32] telegram's security posture is... a bit different [05:32] guess how much that matters depends on the person though [05:33] hi. After distro-upgrade to 17.10 I can't set play key for rhythmbox [05:33] i hear good things about ring.cx aswell [05:33] volume keys using Asus media keys work fine [05:38] is there any other mechanism I can fiddle with to manage keyboard shortcuts? [05:42] makara: what you could try is purge rythmbox, remove config files in your home, try again? [05:42] !hotkeys | makara [05:42] makara: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2209015&seqNum=3 [05:43] hmm thats for unity, nevermind [05:43] as this shortcut is specific to one program (rhythmbox) i don't think it is in system preferences [05:43] i would expect it to be in rhythmbox's preferences [05:43] makara, what play key would you like to use? [05:44] i'm using unity [05:44] makara, do what lotuspsychje and ubottu said -- assign your preferred key to run `rhythmbox-client --play-pause` [05:44] i like having 6 desktops, whether they're populated or not [05:45] sveta, pause [05:45] yes you can use `rhythmbox-client --pause` too [05:45] i.e. system → preferences → keyboard shortcuts, and add this entry there [05:46] "(rhythmbox-client:17995): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: MPRIS D-Bus interface not available, some things won't work" [05:46] that's a warning, it might be harmless [05:47] you may need to enable the "MPRIS D-Bus Interface" plugin in Rhythmbox's main window [05:51] does `rhythmbox-client --pause` pause your thing? [05:51] i tried to install rhythmbox-plugins, but it has unresolvable dependencies [05:51] a pastebin of install output would be useful [05:52] no, it gives me said warning message [05:52] makara: have you installed ppa's of any kind to your system? [05:52] i do. Apparently some were disabled at distro-upgrade. Haven't checked since [05:52] I understood that it gives you that warning instead of pause. As a next step, I would like to see the output that you get when you try to install rhythmbox-plugins. [05:53] makara: we cant support the use of ppa's here unfortanetly [05:56] Sveta, https://pastebin.com/gz5mtPcZ [05:56] ( this is https://pastebin.com/raw/gz5mtPcZ ) [05:57] Thanks makara! What about `apt-cache policy rhythmbox-plugins` ? [05:59] https://pastebin.com/w1DeHVCg [05:59] ( this is https://pastebin.com/raw/w1DeHVCg ) [05:59] lotuspsychje, I installed keytouch, but there's no program to run - it just added some kernal drivers [06:00] makara, what about `apt update` and `apt install rhythmbox-plugins`, same error? [06:01] hubby's computer is having a bad time. the monitor is full of weird colors and lines (ubuntu 16.04) [06:01] Sveta, same error [06:02] i did ctrl alt t .. but the terminal is red. [06:02] it just looks like they haven't kept rhythmbox-plugins updated [06:02] Thanks makara! What about `apt-cache policy librhythmbox-core10` ? [06:03] you've got a newer version of librhythmbox-core10 installed than what Ubuntu provides, may be an external source [06:03] chalcedony, what about ctrl-alt-f1 (it will switch to text console, use alt-f7 to return back)? [06:04] that's what i was trying to remember :) [06:04] ty diskin [06:07] diskin, it's red with lines running acorss it [06:07] normally it should be black [06:08] chalcedony: updated system? grahpics card & driver? [06:08] chalcedony, then I suppose it's a hardware problem. if it is a desktop, try moving monitor cable, adjust it from both sides. [06:09] if it is a laptop, then moving the screen could help, but chances are lower [06:09] lotuspsychje, i don't know. his computer. he checked the cable [06:09] desktop [06:10] chalcedony: reboot the computer, press del/f2 to enter the bios. if it happens there too, it's a hardware problem [06:11] i'm going to see if putty lets me get a black screen .. that might tell me too? [06:11] Remote desktop isn't affected by such hardware or even driver issues [06:11] Remote ssh as well [06:11] hmm ok [06:11] i can reboot it from here though [06:12] i'm sorted, uninstalled all of rhythmbox and reinstalled. Thanks for help [06:12] makara: works now? [06:16] lotuspsychje, yes [06:16] !yay | makara [06:16] makara: Glad you made it! :-) [06:17] makara the hypothesis is that you had a ppa which didn't provide the rhythmbox plugins, and the ubuntu's own version of the package was too old [06:18] i assume the keyboard shortcuts work, too? :) [06:19] Im trying to setup ics for a laptop connected to wifi to assign an ip to a device connected to the laptop via eth0. id like to do it all through cmd line bc through the gui didnt work. can anyone in here help with ICS on ubuntu 16.04.3 ? [06:20] e1999: are you the persons that was using kde? [06:21] *person [06:22] alkisg nope. not me [06:22] e1999: did you try from the network manager gui, and that didn't work? [06:25] alkisg yes. i went to wired settings. where i shouldve been able to edit conn and go to ipv4 method and select share w other computers.... but the method drop is missing. so i created a new profile for vlan and selected method under ipv4 and select sharew other computers. this didnt work even if i ignored ipv6. i monitored syslog, and could see the dhcp discover messages. but nothing ever popped in /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases [06:27] alkisg correction. adding the profile didnt actually help. adding the new connection was the only thing that gave me access to the ipv4 method drop down. [06:28] e1999: eh, I'm not sure I understood, so in the end you did manage to create a simple ipv4 ICS connection, without vlans or anything, yet that didn't work, correct? [06:30] alkisg, the new video card didn't help. is there a solution/ way to test whatever else might be wrong? [06:31] alkisg correct. nothing worked. i didnt have the simple option. the only way to get that method drop was to create a new connection through the gui. my options for type were vpn,bond,team,bridge,vlan. i guessed vlan. and that didnt work either. [06:31] chalcedony: erm, I proposed to go to bios and see if the lines were still there. Were they? [06:31] alkisg, yes they were, its red. [06:31] so we swapped video cards. same problem [06:32] chalcedony: then you'd test with another monitor, and then that problematic monitor to another desktop. It's offtopic now though, not an #ubuntu issue [06:32] might not be the perfect channel for this, but has anyone been able to get a realtek 8168 nic work well in 16.04? [06:32] yes but i appreciate your help very much :) [06:34] e1999: I'm testing the GUI method here, as it should be much easier than running dnsmasq-base in dhcpd mode while cooperating with nm... [06:36] alkisg i thought so too. but that was the tutorial i found. i figured i simply had a bad package or nm was incomplete or something [06:42] e1999: so, I joined my wifi network normally. Then I created a new ethernet connection, and went to ipv4 tab and selected ICS. Then I activated it, and I had connection sharing. All is well. :) [06:43] alkisg, heh.. went to remove it and the cable wasn't in.. so now it's fixed :) ty [06:43] The "server" ip was 10.42.0.1 [06:43] Hehe [06:43] np [06:59] hi i have installed gnome-flashback metacity and gnome and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ... i did have this working before i reinstalled [07:41] Hey, I have a quick question: Using 16.04, and I bound Alt+A to go to workspace to the left, however when I have Eclipse open, it overrides my keybinding since there's a menu shortcut (for search in Eclipse) called Alt+A apparently. Is that an Ubuntu thing and if so, can I disable it? [07:44] Moopz: not an ubuntu thing, it's an application thing. unless you can disable that keybinding in the application you're stuck. (this is also why we usually don't use alt+key for desktop bindings - applications use them) [07:45] I already unbound every alt+ that Eclipse has, yet it still intercepts it. ' [07:46] But perhaps I should try Eclipse channel instead. [07:48] try that, i just think this is a really backwards way of doing it [07:49] ducasse: What's my alternative? [07:50] use something other than alt+a, that isn't used by applications. super + something is often used for this kind of thing [08:06] hello everyone [08:06] need some help [08:07] I just update and upgrade my ubuntu 16.04LTS and for some reason some of the keys on my laptop are not working very well [08:07] at times even if I am not pressing anything the letter w appears on the password when I boot up and when I am able to boot the some keys are disabled which includes the letter w [08:07] hope someone can help me solve this [08:09] I added a user, I want to keep this workspace not accessible to other users, how? [08:11] easyOnme: have you got the usb you installed from? boot that in 'try ubuntu' mode, and see if it behaves the same. === LocaMocha is now known as Sauvin [08:12] ducasse: the thing is I do not have the usb anymore [08:12] easyOnme: download the ubuntu inage and write it again? [08:14] ducasse: other than doing a new image are there any other alternatives [08:15] easyOnme, I'd suggest BIOS but I can't remember if there is any field you could test the laptop keys [08:15] hlias: [08:15] easyOnme: you can try booting an older kernel, but using a live image is a good way to troubleshoot [08:15] the surprising part is that the external keyboard works just fine [08:15] easyOnme, this sounds more like a hardware problem [08:16] which is why i want him to try a live image [08:16] I encountered this similar problem with the other company laptop what I did was to do update and upgrade and after that the problem went away [08:16] I tried with this one but it does not work [08:17] I mean the problem was exactly similar I also thought it was a hardware program [08:17] but after i did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade it work just earlier I did the same thing but after the update the problem still persisted [08:18] easyOnme: has it been like this since you installed? [08:18] no [08:19] only after I made an update and upgrade command [08:19] the thing is for some reason the backspace key gets activated when I type on browsers [08:19] whatever I type it gets deleted letter by letter in front of me as if I am pressing the backspace key [08:20] hi i have installed gnome-flashback metacity and gnome and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ... i did have this working before i reinstalled [08:21] easyOnme: the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that upgrade won't install anything that requires new dependencies (newer kernels fall into this category). If it is a hardware issue then perhaps a kernel update will have an updated driver with a fix. Try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. [08:21] !dist-upgrade [08:21] A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention. [08:21] auronandace: I already did and the problem still persists [08:22] hence I am using an external keyboard instead of the laptop keyboard which is a bit annoying when you are doing development work [08:22] easyOnme: I thought you said upgrade rather than dist-upgrade [08:22] easyOnme: you did dist-upgrade, not upgrade? [08:23] I did that too [08:23] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:23] I even do sudo apt full-upgrade [08:23] exit [08:23] exit [08:24] but it only upgraded all it could possibly update and I am not sure whether it did update anything related to the keyboard driver [08:24] easyOnme: that would be the kernel [08:25] ok but still the keyboard is not working as expected as there are a handful of keys not enabled [08:25] I remember using the keyboard and it was working just fine when I first installed ubuntu on this laptop [08:26] ok, as i suggested - try a live image [08:27] It has been like 10 months since I used this laptop and only today right after I did the dist-upgrade that it started behaving like this. I also did restart a couple of times but like a said wwwwwwwww comes out from the password textbox after booting when it is not supposed to work [08:27] this is kind of weird [08:27] hence I came here [08:27] I did google though and most of their advice didn't work either [08:28] the kernel update messed it up [08:28] can't you choose an older kernel from grub menu? [08:28] well, you haven't even tried ours - try a live image or an older kernel [08:31] hlias: how to do that [08:32] easyOnme: Reboot, hold/hammer left shift to get grub menu, pick an older kernel [08:32] ok thank you [08:32] see you all later [08:40] hello everyone [08:41] hateball: I just did reboot using an old kernel [08:41] there were only two available [08:41] so I choose the second latest version [08:41] still the keyboard not working [08:42] shall I do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade command from here [08:42] easyOnMe: are you using !hwe ? if not, you might want to try that and see if it automagically fixes things [08:44] hateball: what is !hwe [08:44] !hwe [08:44] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack === EriC^^ is now known as explosive [08:59] Hey anyone know how are the following packages: (libapache2-mod-php7.0 php7.0-mysql php7.0-curl php7.0-json) named in the new ubuntu 17.10? === curro_ is now known as mas886 [09:00] Hey anyone know how are the following packages: (libapache2-mod-php7.0 php7.0-mysql php7.0-curl php7.0-json) named in the new ubuntu 17.10? [09:01] searching apt cache didn't help too much [09:04] /dev/sda1 236M 234M 0 100% /boot [09:04] how can i clean this up? Since apt wont run on full disk [09:04] Dirkos: clean out old kernels [09:04] Dirkos: you can manually rm old kernels to free up space, then run apt autoremove to remove the packages [09:05] Isnt rm causing other things maybe? [09:05] Like stuck references? [09:06] Dirkos: use dpkg -P to remove old kernel packages, it doesn't need free space to do that [09:07] mas886, I think php7.0 is not included in the repos. php7.1 is there, though [09:09] hlias: ok thankyou! [09:24] Hi, can anyone recommend a driver for an rx 560 graphics card for Ubuntu 17.10 - I have the latest Mesa drivers installed but when I log in, my desktop is all distorted including the icons and text. [09:27] aneks: latest being from PPA? Is this Wayland or X? [09:28] hateball: for some reason my 17.10 is running on X rather than Wayland [09:28] hateball: yep from PPA [09:32] aneks: well I was going to suggest that X likely works better [09:32] but... [09:32] As I don't use AMD myself I don't really have any other input === hanna` is now known as hanna [09:35] hateball: all good, thanks anyway.. I'll just keep looking for a solution === g2 is now known as g2[a] [09:48] hateball: I was trying to install the latest drivers from this ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/pkppa as suggested on one of the Ubuntu posts but then I run into this error: https://pastebin.com/bRf1c1bs any idea what might be causing it? [09:54] aneks: Nope, and PPAs are not supported here either. I'd file a bug on launchpad [09:58] hi i have installed gnome-flashback metacity and gnome and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ... i did have this working before i reinstalled [10:49] how to add user which is unaccessible to the other users [10:59] hi, anyone setup a samba AD with the new systemd-resolve and netplan that I've found (sigh!) in 17.10? [11:34] My computer froze Sunday while having an mp4 paused with some other apps running (e.g. Firefox), and now my trackpad seems to be sluggish and regularly highlights (click-drag) when I try to drag the cursor across the screen. Does it sound like the computer overheated and something is now damaged? [11:34] I had to do a hard-shutoff, not sure how else to unfreeze the computer. [11:35] (i.e. holding down the power button -- isn't that called 'hard shutoff'?) [11:50] hello, I'm running power point from virtual box, when I try to start presentation I get black screen [11:50] what could be a problem [11:53] Neither is really an ubuntu problem, could ask in #vbox [11:55] hi i have installed gnome-flashback metacity and gnome and have successfully got to windows when i go to the menu but when i click on the links terminal or system etc nothing happens i think i failed to install something important ... i did have this working before i reinstalled [12:02] when I try to run same powerpoint doc in libre office it runs, but it crashes ar some slides [12:09] RonaldsMazitis, try building those slides one element at a time until you find the element that causes the crash [12:09] (e.g. first add text, then add picture, then add border color, etc) [12:09] bcowan, d'you know what to do if the OS freezes? [12:09] i mean if the mouse freezes too [12:11] I don't care about libre office crashing, power point itself gets black screen, unimaginable [12:11] lol, i dunno man, ditch powerpoint? >_> (sorry i can't help more) [12:12] RonaldsMazitis: is that in seamless mode or windowed mode? [12:13] Hi, I was using ati graphic card, it was not working, so I put radeon.modeset=0 in grub. now things work alright, but I am unable to change the resolution. xrandr shows this: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default [12:14] I think I should add new mode to xrandr and reconfigure X11 but I am not sure how. I am using ubuntu 17.10 [12:15] drake01: 17.10 uses wayland by default. see if it makes a difference signing into an X11 session [12:19] auronandace: I am using dwm, so I installed xwayland and launched a session, when I enter command: xrandr it still shows failed to get size of gamma for output default error [12:20] turning off 3d acceleration, and turning it off trough regedit made it work, this is not ubuntu, sorry for posting [12:23] drake01: have you tried with the closed source drivers for your card? [12:26] drake01: i found this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [12:35] Hi there [12:35] Howdy folks [12:35] can some1 help me? Gryb is saying cant find device , unknown filesystem [12:35] GRUB* [12:36] i had manjaro on some partition and i deleted it and tried to install ubuntu [12:43] SilentNauscopy, did you reformat to ext4? [12:46] yes [12:47] but while installation there was an error [12:47] something with UEFI ?? [12:47] i dont remember exactly [12:54] SilentNauscopy, yeah I followed this tut to reinstall kubuntu on my laptop which is UEFI/GPT https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/partitioning-hard-disk-drives-for-bios-mbr-bios-gpt-and-uefi-gpt-in-linux/ [12:57] hi [12:57] i found a bug with one of the packages under artful (bombono-dvd) [12:58] the epople in #xubuntu (that's the distro i use) suggested i report it using apport [12:58] ubuntu-bug [12:58] so i reinstalled apport, quit all programs, and opened and did the crash-causing activity while "collecting data" happens [12:59] i didnt see anything on the ubuntu web site resembling it [12:59] how long does it take before a bug shows up there? [12:59] it should have brought you to a page i think [12:59] i know if oyu search for the problem, a lot of arch users are having the same problmes [12:59] Ben64: it brought me to a sign-up page [13:00] for ubuntu one [13:00] do i have to sign up? [13:00] i'd imagine it would submit automatically [13:00] might have to sign up [13:00] k [13:00] i dont like leaving stuff like apport on my machine [13:01] if i wanted to use windows 10 i would use it (which unfortunately i am using right now) [13:01] (i use either or for irc since it's a publicly logged medium) [13:03] apport isn't windows 10 [13:04] hello all [13:04] on ubuntu when I press Ctrl+S on shell, my shell hangs up. Is there a way to make it .. un-stuck ? [13:04] Ben64: well i mean ongoing data collection [13:04] when all i want to do is report a bug [13:04] apport isn't ongoing data collection [13:04] Haris: ctrl-q [13:04] Ben64: it phones home memory dumps doesn't it? [13:05] if you tell it to [13:05] sends memory dumps to canonical if there's a crash? [13:05] this is in a screen session [13:05] all i can do with windows 10 is press cancel and cross my fingers [13:05] Haris: shouldn't matter [13:05] not sure how that's relevant [13:05] i dont want that on linux too [13:05] ? [13:05] well it's the same thing [13:05] it isn't [13:06] Haris: unless ctrql-q is your screen command key. [13:06] !who [13:06] As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [13:06] i'd rather just report a bug than run a memory dump collecting phone home program [13:06] apport isn't all that [13:06] then what does apport do Ben64 [13:06] it reports bugs when you tell it to report a bug [13:07] i seem to remember some time ago catching the kubuntu version of apport was phoning home memory dumps automatically [13:07] Ctrl+a+q worked in screen session [13:07] behind my back [13:08] so, Ben64, where can i physically type my problem in the english language, and not have to worry about spooks [13:08] redblade7: well, good luck on your future endeavors [13:08] what's that supposed to mean? [13:08] there is no other way? [13:08] it means i'm out [13:09] every other program lets me do this without a phone home memory dump [13:09] i can just log onto a web site and report a problem [13:09] or email the devlopers [13:09] i don't want to deal with your paranoia, so ... bye [13:09] ok then bye [13:09] paranoia lol [13:09] why are you using linux and not windows 10 then? === g2[a] is now known as g2 [13:10] so nobody knows of any other way to report a bug without sending memory dumps on a regular basis [13:12] BTW this is the problem, but I'm not using 32-bit xubuntu [13:12] so i cant work around it [13:12] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bombono-dvd/?comments=all [13:12] the comment by a7arch [13:14] i cant believe any linux user in the entire world would accuse me of paranoia for opposing automatic phoning home of memory dumps [13:14] seriously [13:14] i have never heard of that in my life [13:14] redblade7, do you think you're rant is going to help you solve your socalled issue ....maybe some real research instead of internet myths will help [13:14] linux was always pro-privacy [13:14] why not use windows [13:14] redblade7, so you are concerned about minidumps that got sent to troubleshoot problems? [13:15] dekatch: i dont know what was sent, it was a long time ago, and i think it was kde that did it [13:15] that was a long time ago though [13:15] let's get that out of the way [13:15] my question is [13:15] but thats just how issue reporting works [13:15] is there any way to report a bug [13:15] without compromising my privacy? [13:16] noone knows if your concerns are pretty common or not [13:16] !launchpad | redblade7 [13:16] redblade7: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [13:16] if 40% of ubuntu installations report back the same damn issue consider it patched real soon [13:16] dekatch: well it's brand new and only started with artful, and brand new on arch too [13:16] fairly ndew [13:16] last april [13:16] but if youre on the end of only about 1% of the people with that issue, it takes longer [13:17] i thought launchpad was hosting for ppa's [13:17] redblade7: hence the factoid says "and much more" [13:17] ok [13:18] if i sign up for ubuntu one through the browser, do i not have to worry about accidental syncing or tie-ins to the main machine [13:19] because i know kde system settings offers a sign-in opportunity, but it's optional [13:21] and does ubuntu one only sync the home folder or part of it? and is the syncing required? [13:21] or can i just sign up to report the bug [13:21] via the browser [13:21] without logging in from settings [13:22] Hi ! About 17.10, Do you know why nautilus and gnome-shell, and many other apps are running under xwayland and when did they'll be available to use wayland instead ? [13:22] not a developer here not even a serious ubuntu staff type of guy. but i would think you can just sign in to report "some bug" [13:23] why do you even hyperventilate about it? [13:23] hi, quick question: can ubuntu be used without systemd? [13:23] why do you keep making comments like that? [13:23] Digit: i wish [13:23] redblade7, that was not an answere [13:23] * redblade7 long time slackware user except on two computers [13:23] even yes or no [13:23] thnx redblade7. :/ *strikes ubuntu from the list* [13:23] Digit, asked an straight question [13:24] no need to get sarcastic about it [13:24] prob with slackware is that if you want anything multimedia it's a bitch to set up [13:24]