| Bashing-om | New kernel for xenial is on the street: linux-image-4.4.0-98-generic (4.4.0-98.121) . | 01:54 |
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| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-generic xenial | 01:54 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.98.103 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB | 01:54 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | !wayland | 06:29 |
| ubot5 | Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. Ubuntu 17.10 onwards use Wayland by default on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/ | 06:29 |
| EriC^^ | morning all | 06:30 |
| lotuspsychje | hey eric | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | just woke up with cuppa coffee | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | all good EriC^^ ? | 06:33 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 06:35 |
| EriC^^ | yup, you? | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | great here, holiday | 06:35 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 06:35 |
| EriC^^ | whats the holiday? | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: autumn holiday | 06:36 |
| EriC^^ | cool :D | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | 9 days off :p | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | painted my business room | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | today bit chilling | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | morning dax :p | 06:39 |
| EriC^^ | nice! | 06:39 |
| dax | hihi | 06:39 |
| dax | lotuspsychje: also, on the off chance nobody has yet extolled the virtues of SASL to you, let me know | 06:40 |
| lotuspsychje | the what lol? | 06:40 |
| dax | alrighty. SASL is a way of making sure you're fully logged in to NickServ before you start joining channels and stuff. | 06:41 |
| dax | It will stop you from ending up in -unregged randomly. | 06:41 |
| EriC^^ | ah nice | 06:41 |
| lotuspsychje | ahh | 06:41 |
| dax | https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl has instructions for most clients | 06:41 |
| lotuspsychje | somehow, hexchat logs me in faster then nickserv, always wondered why | 06:42 |
| EriC^^ | wish they'd remove the +r though | 06:42 |
| dax | EriC^^: We did, around release day. We started getting spam again. So it's now back on. | 06:42 |
| EriC^^ | just 1 spam | 06:42 |
| dax | no, not just 1 spam | 06:42 |
| dax | Once freenode figures out how to get their long-term problem users under control, it'll go away. Until then, we're kinda stuck with it. | 06:42 |
| EriC^^ | hmm i saw 1 attack by 2 nicks, then +r ensued | 06:43 |
| EriC^^ | that would be nice if they made a server protection | 06:43 |
| dax | Okay. I saw quite a bit more. | 06:43 |
| dax | though I can see antispambot output and was specifically looking for it, so... :) | 06:43 |
| dax | Yeah. Not sure exactly what they could do, but considering this dingus is all over the place it's really not something #ubuntu can fix by itself :\ | 06:44 |
| EriC^^ | can't we write a bot to defend the channel, or maybe put some people to defend the channel who's good at being op and online a lot? | 06:44 |
| lotuspsychje | theres alot of spam indeed lately | 06:44 |
| lotuspsychje | i also agree with EriC^^ the numbers of users are affected by +r | 06:45 |
| dax | EriC^^: Not really. There's an unavoidable lag time between spam starting and bots reacting, and if you have a bunch of spambots in the channel, a lot gets through before the reaction happens. | 06:45 |
| dax | And ops help approximately zero with this | 06:45 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: users and also lines said in channel, it almost half'd since the +r i told Ben64 and he checked his logs and made a nice plot lines said vs date | 06:45 |
| EriC^^ | channel is dying like this | 06:46 |
| EriC^^ | dax: it's only like 2-3 lines though | 06:46 |
| * dax sighs | 06:46 | |
| EriC^^ | won't the bots get exhausted eventually? | 06:46 |
| EriC^^ | i mean the number of ip's | 06:47 |
| dax | It's been a year. He's still around. | 06:47 |
| dax | No, botnets are effectively infinite these days. | 06:47 |
| dax | (that's a year network-wide, not just in #ubuntu) | 06:47 |
| EriC^^ | who is this guy? can't we reason with him? | 06:47 |
| lotuspsychje | first you need to know who he is lol | 06:47 |
| dax | has also been tried, has not worked so far | 06:47 |
| dax | oh, network staff know exactly who he is | 06:47 |
| EriC^^ | what does he want? | 06:47 |
| dax | to annoy people | 06:47 |
| dax | that's literally it. no demands. | 06:48 |
| EriC^^ | why | 06:48 |
| * dax shrugs | 06:48 | |
| EriC^^ | dax: can we make ubuntu work on a +v basis? | 06:49 |
| EriC^^ | when a new unregged user joins, a bot asks him an intelligent question that he has to answer and then gives him +v to speak | 06:49 |
| EriC^^ | it should work, no? | 06:49 |
| dax | was done back in the day with the FloodBots. We no longer have the FloodBots for political reasons, and nobody has yet written a replacement. | 06:50 |
| EriC^^ | i think that's a good solution imho | 06:50 |
| dax | feel free to write a limnoria plugin or something | 06:50 |
| dax | i am nowhere near the skill level to do that, i only started tinkering with limnoria at all the other week | 06:50 |
| EriC^^ | i dont know that language at all | 06:51 |
| EriC^^ | can | 06:51 |
| EriC^^ | can't we delegate it to someone? it seems pretty easy | 06:51 |
| dax | . ubottu is barely maintained and is slowly falling apart due to technical debt, and we haven't yet found anyone to fix her and it's been years. | 06:52 |
| dax | so no, bot wranglers do not seem to be growing on trees of late | 06:52 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:53 |
| EriC^^ | heh :D | 06:53 |
| EriC^^ | how would the program work? user joins, if regged +v else, fetch question from list, ask question with a timeout, sanitize input , check if the question's answer is correct, if correct +v user, if not raise the counter+1, if counter=3 end session with user | 06:54 |
| EriC^^ | ? | 06:54 |
| dax | I forget the details of how FloodBot did it, but something like that. | 06:55 |
| dax | There's of course the issue that your question list needs to be huge or it's brute-forcable a notable percentage of the time. | 06:55 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont think 1300 users will answer a question | 06:55 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: just the unregged ones have to | 06:56 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 06:56 |
| EriC^^ | i think Svena is good at writing irc plugins and what not | 06:56 |
| EriC^^ | dax: yeah | 06:57 |
| EriC^^ | the questions are the biggest issue i think | 06:57 |
| EriC^^ | they have to be non parsable by a bot yet easy enough that anyone can answer | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | who is the guy anyway, i would trace his botnet and submit to the cops lol | 06:58 |
| EriC^^ | dax: limnoria uses "pypi" ? | 07:03 |
| dax | it's on pypi, if that's what you mean. it's also in the debian (and i think ubuntu) repos | 07:04 |
| dax | !info limnoria artful | 07:04 |
| ubot5 | limnoria (source: limnoria): robust and user-friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2017.08.18-1 (artful), package size 553 kB, installed size 4364 kB | 07:04 |
| EriC^^ | ah thanks | 07:06 |
| EriC^^ | hmm it's not in xenial? | 07:07 |
| EriC^^ | !info limnoria xenial | 07:07 |
| ubot5 | Package limnoria does not exist in xenial | 07:07 |
| lotuspsychje | snap find limnoria | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | The search "limnoria" returned 0 snaps | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | and no snap | 07:08 |
| dax | i'd probably use git if you're not on something that has it in-repository, tbh | 07:09 |
| EriC^^ | aha thanks | 07:10 |
| Ben64 | late to the party but yeah, when the floodbots went away it was very noticeable | 07:19 |
| EriC^^ | ok, installed limnoria seems to be running | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | think dax is experimenting :p | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | oh its EriC^^ | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:22 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 07:22 |
| EriC^^ | reading here now http://doc.supybot.aperio.fr/en/latest/develop/plugin_tutorial.html | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 07:58 |
| ducasse | morning, all | 08:20 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:26 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader - all well? | 08:29 |
| lordievader | Hi ducasse doing good here, just had coffee. | 08:29 |
| lordievader | How are you? | 08:29 |
| ducasse | relaxing with a can of coke, catching up on email etc | 08:30 |
| lordievader | A can of coke... well it has caffeine in there I suppose :P | 08:51 |
| lotuspsychje | re | 10:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse & lordievader | 10:28 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: nice idea a whole can lol | 10:29 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje | 10:35 |
| lordievader | How are you? | 10:35 |
| lotuspsychje | great here lordievader | 10:36 |
| lotuspsychje | painted in house | 10:36 |
| lordievader | You are painting the house? | 10:37 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah parts | 10:38 |
| lotuspsychje | and my business room | 10:38 |
| lordievader | Nice | 10:38 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/new-look-skype-for-desktop-released | 15:53 |
| === dax is now known as studentloans | ||
| lotuspsychje | !krack | 15:56 |
| ubot5 | KRACK is a group of attacks against the wireless WPA2 protocol and related software. Ubuntu clients are protected against it if they are updated; see https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3455-1/ for details. Networking equipment needs updating if using 802.11r, repeater mode, or other AP-as-client configurations, which most are not. See https://www.krackattacks.com/ for technical details. | 15:56 |
| === phunyguy is now known as phunyghost | ||
| lotuspsychje | bbl french frites :p | 17:04 |
| studentloans | nvidia and wayland, from Plasma's perspective: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/10/plasmawayland-and-nvidia-2017-edition/ | 19:12 |
| daftykins | nothing new then, chase version numbers and your life will be hell :) | 19:19 |
| studentloans | "nothing new" about covers it, yeah | 19:20 |
| === el is now known as strawfeminist | ||
| unni_koz | Hello, I looking for help related to apport. Getting core dump to | <path to apport> %p 6 234234234 pipe failed | 21:07 |
| unni_koz | trying to figure our which process is the real culprit here for SIGABRT. | 21:08 |
| unni_koz | this is ubuntu 12.04.05 LTS | 21:08 |
| unni_koz | directory /var/crash is empty | 21:09 |
| unni_koz | and nothing in apport logs | 21:09 |
| Bashing-om | unni_koz: Unless you have paid for "extended" support. 12.04 is dead ; and no longer has support . | 21:10 |
| unni_koz | understood that. | 21:11 |
| unni_koz | it will be great if someone shed some light how to figure out which process exactly causing this | 21:12 |
| unni_koz | troubleshooting it for last 4-6 hours... couldnt find anything. | 21:13 |
| Bashing-om | unni_koz: Regrests, but that too is above my skill set. | 21:13 |
| unni_koz | thanks Bashing-om | 21:14 |
| unni_koz | anybody? | 21:15 |
| unni_koz | please help | 21:15 |
| daftykins | unni_koz: this isn't a support channel, see topic | 21:22 |
| unni_koz | oh! thanks daftykins | 21:22 |
| daftykins | but you won't get support for 12.04 on IRC anywhere :) | 21:23 |
| unni_koz | understand sir. i need some help to troubleshoot. | 21:23 |
| unni_koz | where i can get some help/hint... let me know if there is any irc channel | 21:23 |
| unni_koz | sorry if im creating noise in this chat | 21:24 |
| unni_koz | channel* | 21:24 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| oerheks | wait, sco is not dead ? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-keeps-alive-the-never-ending-linux-case-sco-v-ibm/ | 22:42 |
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