[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:21] <drab> .o/
[07:22] <drab> a clear sign I should be asleep...
[07:23] <lordievader> Well... are you?
[07:23] <drab> unfortunately I am... trying to get a migration done while everybody else is asleep
[07:24]  * drab is waiting on an rsync to finish
[08:05] <drab> I might actually be done and without any apparent disaster... good stuff
[08:05] <drab> have a good day europe folks
[08:09] <lordievader> Same to you, drab
[11:10] <jamespage> coreycb: looking at my zesty issue - the neutron-gateway unit is loading very heavily with rootwrap calls
[11:10] <jamespage> not sure tbh
[11:10] <jamespage> top - 11:10:21 up  1:18,  1 user,  load average: 9.18, 5.87, 5.53
[11:12] <jamespage> calls just seem to be taking along time
[11:26] <jamespage> coreycb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1729274
[11:26] <Scoop7> Hello if on my ubuntu 16.04 lts server, apache breaks down - could this resolve to a ssh access fail to that server ?
[12:32] <andreas> hm, is there a way to have a wireless on a vm?
[12:32] <andreas> with kvm?
[12:33] <andreas> sorry, I dropped briefly from the network, if someone replied please tell me again
[12:45] <lordievader> andreas: Are you asking if you can have a wireless nic in a vm?
[12:45] <andreas> yes
[12:45] <andreas> without passthrough
[12:45] <andreas> a simulated one, of course
[12:46] <andreas> not connecting to a real wireless network
[12:59] <lordievader> A simulated one? No, I don't think that exists.
[12:59] <lordievader> Passthrough is the only option I can think of.
[13:25] <coreycb> jamespage: interesting, i wonder if that's the case in artful+
[13:57] <andreas> hey, packaging question regarding dependencies
[13:57] <andreas> I'm triaging a bug (#1729064)
[13:57] <andreas> where when you install bacula-director-pgsql, that pulls in postgresql server via recommends
[13:58] <andreas> problem is, the bacula postinst expects a working database, but postgresql isn't fully installed yet. There isn't even a postgres user yet
[13:58] <andreas> so bacula-director-pgsql fails
[13:58] <andreas> it also can't just depend on postgresql server, because the server might be remote and not localhost
[13:59] <andreas> it does depend on the postgresql client bits
[13:59] <andreas> and it does have a recommends for the postgresql server, which gets pulled in by default if you just apt install bacula-director-pgsql
[14:10] <coreycb> andreas: we had a similar situation with openstack packages
[14:11] <coreycb> andreas: basically we used to have the package install with an sqlite db to get the services running by default
[14:11] <coreycb> andreas: for example, postinst script updating the sqlite db: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/keystone/tree/debian/keystone.postinst?h=stable/ocata
[14:12] <andreas> yeah, but in this case it's a pgsql-specific package that is being installed
[14:12] <coreycb> andreas: we've since dropped use of the sqlite db though since it's more problem than it's worth
[14:12] <andreas> not a generic one that can use 3 different db backends
[14:12] <andreas> I remember the issues we had with the sqlite db in openstack
[14:12] <andreas> services would start with that, then the relation with mysql would show up, and you would have to migrate from sqlite to mysql
[14:12] <coreycb> andreas: hmm, yeah. i guess you could assess whether the postinst db commands are really needed.
[14:13] <andreas> debconf asks if you want to use a localhost or a remote db
[14:13] <andreas> if you choose localhost, kabum, because postgresql isn't configured yet
[14:13] <andreas> is there a way in d/control to fix that? Tell it that postgresql should be ready to use?
[14:13] <andreas> but still be a recommends?
[14:14] <andreas> or just via some postinst voodoo?
[14:14] <coreycb> andreas: i don't know, sorry
[14:14] <andreas> np
[14:17] <coreycb> andreas: that does seem a bit odd though, that postgresql doesn't get fully installed
[14:18] <andreas> I checked dpkg -l while the debconf question from bacula was up showing an error
[14:18] <andreas> postgresql was U
[14:18] <andreas> not even the postgres user existed
[14:18] <andreas> one of the debconf options was to abort, which I selected, then the rest continued
[14:18] <andreas> and all I had to do to "fix" it was "apt install --reinstall bacula-director-pgsql"
[14:18] <andreas> maybe a --configure would have been enough
[14:19] <coreycb> andreas: sounds like a bug somewhere. maybe try on an older release?
[14:19] <andreas> I'm going over the changelog
[14:19] <andreas> going to try debian too, since it's a sync
[14:23] <rh10> need some python experience for system administration jobs. which last script did you write? :)
[14:25] <andreas> coreycb: it worked in artful, which has a newer version. I have something to check now
[14:26] <andreas> as long as it's not a dpkg change, or something else core :)
[14:26] <coreycb> andreas: ok good!
[14:44] <sruli> i am trying to set my luks to automount from key file in /boot, but need to set a fallback to ass for pass if key not found, all the scripts i found are for Plymouth, what do i use instead for my script in server (non-gui) ?
[15:56] <drab> .o/
[16:21] <drab> woke up in the morning and stuff is still working... gotta be a good day
[16:22] <rbasak> sruli: could you just write a straightforward keyscript? See crypttab(5).
[18:16] <albech> can anyone recommend an interface where i can let users create websites and administrate them on a shared webserver. I have looked at the webmin/virtualmin/usermin, but its way too sophisticated to what i am looking for. A simple interface that allow users to configure a virtual nginx, ftp and mysql.
[18:17] <albech> prefer support for 1-button installs for wordpress and possibly a few other CMSs
[18:19] <arunpyasi> albech, I would like to recommend you VestaCP but at the moment it doesn't have 1-button install :P
[18:19] <arunpyasi> albech, It'll have Softaculous in next relase though
[18:22] <albech> i have looked at http://www.hostingadvice.com/blog/cpanel-vs-plesk-vs-webpanel but most of these provide much more than i need. I dont need mail, dns and all those other things they provide. i see VestaCP is there too, maybe ill try an install to check it out.
[18:27] <arunpyasi> ok albech
[18:39] <sarnold> albech: please firewall the hell out of it, only allow trusted people to use it from specific IP ranges or something similar. those kinds of tools are usually rubbish code quality.
[18:39] <albech> sarnold: yeah. the ones using it are all on vpn, so it should be fairly simple to keep it tight.
[19:48] <albech> arunpyasi: froxlor seems to be exactly what i was looking for.. thanks for the suggestion though.
[21:53] <drab> lol froxlor, great name choice :)