 @lazypower Hi, Charles! Good to see you here. You helped me with some juju stuff once upon a time.
 Oh nice! 👋 hey there :)
 ;) There are lots of helpful people here too, so feel free to ask if you have an questions.
 @rchs0, That was the firs result in duckduckgo to prove the concept to flo didn't really tried out thar
[01:14] <tgBot> <Kiran kumar Reddy> Did MTP file transfer resolved??
[01:14] <tgBot> <Kiran kumar Reddy> In oneplus one.
 Is device tethering something thats capable (even if only via ssh) by ubports?
 @Xorpad, So it is a lost case phone. 😱🙊
 @Xorpad, Let`s forget this **** LG so restricted smartphone. 😡😡😡 … Let it died.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/nEnrzH9o/file_1619.mp4
 I mean.. udev rule names doesn't matter
 Unless lxc-android service is set to fail if it can't find udev rules
 Which it is not
 @bhushanshah, path is totally different
 Well.. let me explain
 Before starting container it will copy udev rules from /usr/lib/lxc-android/ to /etc/udev/rules.d
 Now it doesn't really matter what file in etc... is named
 Be it 42-unicorn.rules or 70-pme.rules
 Plasma Mobile have udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d/
 Which is also a search path for udev rules
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/K8b0jNeR/file_1621.mp4
 😛
 oh
 well it doesn't work for me either way
 🙈
 🤣
 good morning by the way
 Good morning
 I haven't slept yet because of doing a StarWars marathon but good morning to all who did :)
 https://gitlab.com/rafalense/plus-messenger
 @rchs0, Here is 'Plus Messenger' source code. … It is a Telegram client. … It could inspired UBports Telegram app to have Plus Messenger features.
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[08:26] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @ebetonro, ? Pls can you explaine
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 @ebetonro, You are welcome and you are right.
[08:31] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Yes he blocked me
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 @Flohack is it possible to add wiki page for each device supported or have UT work?
 @Walid, You mean with a summary of features that work fully?
 @Stereofont, yes, with guide how to build, install, features, current state, bugs,...  for each device
[10:00] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch
[10:01] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Walid have you seen this above page? Or you need something deeper?
 @Walid, I will talk with my guys. Basically we got the old, a bit outdated devices.ubports.com and the integrated page in the homepage. But this is not good for community builds, we need smth more flexible yes
 There is exciting and there is useful. It is necessary to have both but it is human to be more drawn by exciting
[11:28] <tgBot> Anghirrim was added by: Anghirrim
 Hi guys
 Heyo!
 Thanks for the welcome. 😁
 Thanks for joining :D
 You're welcome, I've been lurking around for quite a long time now.
 Lurking is fun :P I do it all the time, hah
 Something like 2 years on the OnePlus forum
 @Anghirrim, Woah, nice!
 Recently, bought a second hand Nexus 5 for one of my family membres so finally tried out UbPorts
 But now wanted to give it a try on my OPO
 (I did at the early UbPorts stages, but it was still far from being usable 😂)
 Hopefully that goes well! I don't have a UBPorts compatible device yet, so I haven't tried it. I did have one of the Aquaris Ubuntu Phone devices at one point though.
 You should. Even if not for UbPorts, those "open devices" are nice to try out things
 Absolutely. I'm looking forward to forking some cash over for the Librem 5.
 I tested Plasma Desktop, UbPorts, Sailfish OS and numerous Android roms
 Even if I don't absolutely love it, I'd be happy to support it more
 @Anghirrim, I really want to try the Plasma mobile stuff. The concept looks awesome
 Try plasma mobile first....
 It's not that usable for now
 But agree the concept is apealing
 Gotta have fun with it, if nothing else! :)
 At least on the Nexus 5 I tried, it was laggy and froze all the time.
 Don't know, this might come from the firmware I had on it
 But that's always good to see new things coming iut
 @Anghirrim, Welcome. Sounds like you probably don't need the official welcome package 😎
 Lol no
 Et bonjour
 😁
 @Stereofont, I love the idea that we have this though 😆
 @Schyken, It has improved a lot since then. I managed with 4.5 as daily driver even then but now the UBport version is a lot more slick
 Halium as it matures may make one of the phones you have lying around a candidate
 @Schyken, Very interesting but very niche. I expect their market share of Linux phones to be about the same as their market share of Linux laptops
 @mariogrip 0.1.8 appimage detects my FP2, yay
 @Stereofont, This sounds awesome :D Halium does look cool, I've heard great things about how it's positively impacting UBPorts, and I'm definitely happy about that :D
 @popescu_sorin, Great. Maybe it will work for Markus too
 @Schyken, Phones without enough storage will never be suitable and there may be some hardware blocks but it looks a bit like a universal screwdriver
 @Stereofont, The only OEM I can think of is the Slimbook IIRC
[11:52] <tgBot> unknown was added by: unknown
 Hello Unknown and welcome!  I'm going to send you a quick message on the side to make sure you have a few excellent tools to get you going.  Just wanted to let you know so you know who I am when I send it. :)
 @Anghirrim, OPO is running quite well afaik. I have an UT fired FP2 as daily device and its great
 @bastos777 FP2 stands for FairPhone 2?
 @Anghirrim, Only 2 things: … 1) before flashing, need to update to Android 5.1 or CM12.1 (you can find old archived build for that) … 2) Video recording and rotation have hiccups, and WiFi does not get remembered (or I am too stupid) =)
 Same soc yeah
 @Anghirrim, yes
 @Flohack, You mean downgrade to 5.1?
 @Flohack, That might be why the UbPorts windows installer said my phone was not supported, even if it found it as a A001
 I'm on Slim7
 @Anghirrim, There is a naming problem. They changed it to A001 for exports
 So, even if I use Snap, that won't change?
 I don't remember the details. Maybe fixed in the new appimage?
 We'll see.
 Hey,is that only me or the UbPorts website layout is buggy?
 It says it miss one file (under firefox 56, both desktop and mobile), as well as IE
 Ah.... Fixed now.
 The snap should look for either of two names but I don't know if it does
 Will try tonight then.
 I have Linux at home only
 bit off topicx if i upgrade to 17.10  unity7 is than removed  and phablet-tools also is not avaidable anymore?
 and ubuntu-ui-toolkit-* ?
 Lionelb how about CPT? Should it work?
 @delijati, Are you sure phablet-tool belong to Unity?
 @delijati, I think not straight out of repo. There was a vague suggestion of a UBports :ppa
 There is a 'force' fix but that doesn't sound nice 😨
 and unity7 ?
 is it still in the repo ?
 i kinda got used to it
 @Anghirrim, Climate Predictability Tool 😂
 Lol
 Sorry I wait to be educated on cpt by a guru
 No problem
 I'll find out
 @delijati, As I understand it, abandoned
 hmm so i need to get used to gnome ... again  ...
 unity8 is anyway no option currently ..
 and by upgrading probably my dev environment wont work or even better it wont exist anymore on my box :/
 What's the last LTS, 16.04?
 brr downgrading or a vm with 16.04 ... |-(
 @Stereofont, our hope for unity is still only here, correct?   … https://yunit.io/
 @wayneoutthere, no its unity8 not unity7 .. unity7 == usable vs. unity8 == on phone usable on desktop not really
 rrrright. thanks
 all my mind says is 'unity - where are you?  "
 @Stereofont, Nono, its minimum version ;)
 @Anghirrim, I must confess I also was not successful with UBports installer, used cpt then ;) - I got stock OPO with Cyanogen/Android 4.4, was very strange
 @Flohack What do you mean with your stock 4.4? CPT downgraded your phone?
 @Anghirrim, Nononono :)
 @wayneoutthere, No the hope for Unity7 is https://community.ubuntu.com/t/unity-7-continuation-call-for-developers-and-supporters/736
 My OPO from box was CM version equal to Android 4.4 - IN this case, first put CM/LOS whatever miknimum 12.1 on it
 Then, flash once more to  UT
 @alan_griffiths, very cool.
 wish I could do anything. it's a good fit for convergence and i sure miss it's classy feel
 thsi is OT so I'll stop for now thanks for info
 @alan_griffiths, oO nice i hope for something like that
 @alan_griffiths thanks for the link :)
 @Flohack Oh ok. It was surprising to me then. I'm already on Slimrom Nougat.
 With OOS 2.6 firlware
 That should be ok
 Side question, is there a Telegram app on UT?
 @Anghirrim, There is but it is not fully functional. Yuo cannot read super groups, such as this one. By using Web Telegram you can see Super groups.
 Ok. That's what I was not super fan of, last time I tried UT.
 Progress is being made on a Telegram app, so keep watching.
 @BrisPete, A beta fix is out now I think, courtesy of @flohack
 Great, seems the community is really active! Glad to see that
 And last time I tried to install some desktop apps like openoffice. But I failed to launch it, even if the install on terminal seemed ok.
 @Anghirrim, Those should be much smoother with 16.04
 Ok.
 Let me check the last news and try CPT
 @Anghirrim, Report back if you do. A learning exercise for everyone
 Fwd from JSJoubert: https://m.gsmarena.com/razer_phone_is_official_with_120hz_screen_8gb_of_ram_4000_mah_battery-news-28043.php
 Sure.
 As a phone delight this looks good
 Yep.
 But a bit large to me.
 Wow, two french guys here. Amazing
 Unless Lionel you're not french
 @JSJoubert, 120hz sounds like overkill. 60hz plenty
 @Anghirrim, Rare English Lionel 😎
 Lol yeah.
 Ooh. Not French either..
 120hz is really really nice, it's immediately noticable tbh
 6 generations remived when Catholics purged the protestants 😁
 @JSJoubert, You're not?
 South African.. But French Hugenote descended
 I agree the screen is overkill but allround specs is pretty decent for the estimated price
 Ah... Yeah. Your name is so typical.
 @JSJoubert, Agree yes. I would really be curious to have it in hands, even though I don't pkay
 Play.
 It is living in Europe now and getting that alot. Many South Africans will have French/Dutch names
 @JSJoubert, No mini HDMI? But seriously,  this is off topic
 The estimated is 750 EUr and don't get much better specs for the price.
 @Stereofont, Didn't notice that though I prefer DP. Doesn't the latest versiom get better resolution at higher refresh rate throughput
 OT means 800 messages to catch up on rather than 300 😐
 Although I think I will have more of an issue supporting Razer I think. Not a fan of the way they do the periphals.. Requires always on to require use of some of the features. At least how I understand it so I have always ended up buying alternative products
 any news with rootfs @mariogrip ?
 Backing up my phone
 Will try out CPT soon. But it looks straightforward.
 Hi
 You just need to put your phone in download mode and select it from a drop list
 Hi
 *me awakens from slumber*
 Anyone knows how big is the system image that will be downloaded?
 @Anghirrim, For a core device? roughly 400MB, probably a bit more
 Ok great.
 @Flohack, Yep, for my OPO
 Thanks
 Ok guys, backup done. Rebooting in download mode, see you from the other side (I hope).
 @Anghirrim, Have at least 10 USB cables near …
 Any hints to install ubports to Nexus 5
 No device detected
 have you tried MTD?
 *MDT
 Well first check if adb and fastboot can see it
 adb devices or fastboot devices
 good point @Flohack
 I'm jumping the gun
 Yes, but boots on Android again
 :)
 let me start over... is the device oem unlocked and do you have usb debugging enabled?
 @Xorpad, In Developer Options
 the famous 6-rapid-presses on the ROM version ^^
 7😃
 when I did that on my friends phone he freaked out cause he thought I voided his warranty
 I was like, no this is a supported option
 it's just hidden because only developers need it
 lol
 I usually use the agresssive wifi to cellular handover and forced gpu rendering with msaa 4x and overlay acceleration in that menu along with the options related to flashing
 Make sure it is a data cable, not just a charging cable
 those options make the battery last longer on all my phones, except the agressive wifi to cell handover, which just keeps me from losing connectivity while it tried to use the wifi when I was in range but no longer am
 Hi, I had my BG E4.5 charged the whole night, but now it is at 35% and my phone is switched off. Any ideas? thanks
 @Juanxo, What OS is on your desktop or laptop?
 Ubuntu
 USB debugging is ok
 Maybe we need to add cpu governer configuration to all the kernels and add a setting in the settings menu that allows changing governers. We shoudl enable performance, conservative, and power save options, and if we want userspace to be able to tweak things userspace governer too
 @koni_raid, Don't assume that the reading is real. Could be a software error
 I could go through all the kernels and do that
 @Juanxo, Vanilla 16.04?
 but I don't know how to write usespace stuff yet for UT
 so someone would have to make the settings app support the option
 17.10
 17.10 has problems with repositories
 Can you install 16.04 on an old machine or USB live?
 Ok
 Yeah, but it was charged the whole night and used it very little
 I'll try later and see what happen s
 @koni_raid, I mean it may be 100% but saying 35%
 Now I've to leave
 @Juanxo, Please let us now how you get on
 ok, so the charging did not really work then
 Ok thanks
 @koni_raid, Maybe it did work but the battery app is giving you wrong information
 Very weird!
 Hem.... Back, but still on the same side
 CPT was stuck on "Downloading the OPO image"
 After quite some time I did check my network usage and it was at 0%. … Tried to download libreoffice from the net and usage went up.
 So I came to the conclusion that my Office Network might block the downloads somehow.
 At least to the UbPort servers.
 So luckily, only /data and /system were wipped. So I just had to restore a nandroid backup
 @Flohack, You are right i have the same issues with my OPO device
 https://mir-server.io/
 That is a good website.
 and them code iz on github https://github.com/MirServer
 @koni_raid, Not everything is perfect yet! BQ devices have some strange battery behaviour. If your phone lasts 36 hours, assume that it did reach 100%
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/moving-mir-to-github/1330
[15:17] <ehvolevi> hey, can i compress https://github.com/ubports/ubports-boot in lzma? cuz the boot image is too large for boot partition (1mb in plus ca)
 @ehvolevi, To me it helped to disable unused drivers & modules from Kernel. But compression can be changed yes. This is a standard kernel functions, has nothing to do with Ubuntu Touch
[15:23] <ehvolevi> well, it is uncompressed in boot.img :(
[15:26] <ehvolevi> well, I've set LZMA in wrong kernel config hehe :D
[15:35] <ehvolevi> do I need things like fixup-mountpoints in ubports-boot?
 No, but the data partition might not be found correctly
[15:36] <ehvolevi> hmm, i get reboots
 So... no, it's not found
[15:36] <ehvolevi> i need break=premount in cmdline as shown in readme?
 Yes, and then check out /dev/block to see if your data partition is in there
 It might be /dev/block or /dev itself
[15:37] <ehvolevi> ok, thanks for help
 For example, I put /dev/block/mmcblk0p54 in fixup-mountpoints but ubports-boot finds /dev/mmcblk0p54
[15:38] <ehvolevi> what?
[15:38] <ehvolevi> i need fixup-mountpoints?
 No
[15:38] <ehvolevi> okie
 You need to know the device node for the datapart, though
[15:39] <ehvolevi> why?
[15:39] <ehvolevi> isn't boot automatic?
 Because it's not getting mounted, and so your phone is bootlooping
[15:39] <ehvolevi> i need to set it in any boot?
[15:39] <ehvolevi> aww
 Do you have a fixup-mountpoints created?
 We can take the info from it
[15:41] <ehvolevi> yes i have
[15:41] <ehvolevi> im in telnet now
 Alright, anything in /dev/block?
[15:42] <ehvolevi> there are numbers, not mmcblk blocks
[15:42] <ehvolevi> but i found theyre symlinks to mmcblk blocks
 Alright, that's the problem
[15:43] <ehvolevi> why?
 So is the desired device in /dev itself/
 Because Ubuntu Touch expects to mount /dev/block/mmcblkXpY but it doesn't exist
[15:43] <ehvolevi> yes, but as 179:27, not mmcblk0p27
[15:44] <ehvolevi> and 179:27 is a symlink to mmcblk0p27
 Okay, so `/dev/mmcblk0p27` exists?
[15:44] <ehvolevi> yes, it exist, but it's not named "mmcblk0p27"
 Nowhere?
[15:45] <ehvolevi> no, it's named 179:27
[15:45] <ehvolevi> 179:27 -> ../mmcblk0p27
 That's really strange. Normally it at least appears as `/dev/mmcblk`
 Oh, okay, so that is a thing.
 Not a broken link, right?
[15:46] <ehvolevi> no
 Good
[15:46] <ehvolevi> well
[15:47] <ehvolevi>  /dev/mmcblk0p27 is present but not /dev/block/mmcblk0p27
 This is a hack, but edit `/device/.../rootdir/etc/fstab.qcom` and replace the `/data` source with `/dev/mmcblk0p27`
 We need to figure out how that's happening
[15:47] <ehvolevi> aww, ok
 Then rebuild ubports-boot and everything should be happier
[15:49] <ehvolevi> https://bpaste.net/show/3f0875f10c56 ?
 No, other way around. The first attribute, not the second one
[15:49] <ehvolevi> ah ok :D
[15:50] <ehvolevi> only data?
 Yep!
[15:50] <ehvolevi> good!
 I expect you'll hit an issue where the device reboots itself safely about 30 seconds after booting, but let's watch
[15:51] <ehvolevi> after setting the cmdline flag i didn't get reboots
 weeeee
 Do you get ssh to 10.15.19.82?
[15:52] <ehvolevi> no :/
[15:53] <ehvolevi> just telnet
 Ah, panic handler
[15:53] <ehvolevi> where should data be mounted?
 It should be mounted at /tmpmount and you should have ubuntu.img mounted at /root
 If either failed, we have our problem. :)
 Oh, did you remove `break=` yet?
[15:55] <ehvolevi> no i havent removed it
 Ah, yeah. Do that.
 And we'll see if it boots
[15:56] <ehvolevi> okie
[15:56] <ehvolevi> also, does ubport-boot manage fstab? because it's in system.img ramdisk
 There's a script in the ubports-boot build that embeds the data partition
[15:57] <ehvolevi> with fstab?
 Upstart handles the fstab after we've broken out of the initrd
[15:58] <ehvolevi> aww, ok
 The only thing that ubports-boot cares about is the data partition. And after Upstart starts up (heh), we should have /dev/block in place correctly
[15:59] <ehvolevi> then, it's data the problem hehe
 Is it bootlooping again?
[15:59] <ehvolevi> no
 yay
[15:59] <ehvolevi> now i have the interface, but no ssh
[16:00] <ehvolevi> nor telnet. this means we're a step forward :D
 Indeed.
 Oh, ssh didn't enable. oopsies!
[16:00] <ehvolevi> ouch
 Can you link the rootstock script you used to install?
[16:01] <ehvolevi> well, i used a strange stuff, i mean i modified it a lot in pieces :D
[16:01] <ehvolevi> https://github.com/ubports/rootstock-ng/ this is the base
 ah, default branch hasn't been set yet.
[16:01] <ehvolevi> aww need xenial :/
 And the PR hasn't merged. You could either try reinstalling with https://github.com/universalsuperbox/rootstock-ng/tree/xenial-actuallyfixit , or just lop the SSH bits off of https://github.com/UniversalSuperBox/rootstock-ng/blob/xenial-actuallyfixit/rootstock-touch-install and use those
[16:02] <StucKman> is there any doc about the actual stack and API documentation?
 Sorry, link hell
 @StucKman, Getting there. There's a 120,000 line PR open on the docs repo that we're sorting as we speak.
[16:03] <ehvolevi> aww, ok
[16:03] <StucKman> @UniversalSuperBox: care to share the link to the PR?
[16:03] <ehvolevi> btw wat is rootstock-touch?
[16:03] <ehvolevi> what about caf?
 @ehvolevi, rootstock-touch is a script that builds Ubuntu rootfs's. I honestly have no idea how to use it.
[16:04] <StucKman> this one, I guess:
[16:04] <ehvolevi> Im seeing that caf xenial branch is same as ubports one
 @StucKman, https://github.com/ubports/docs.ubports.com/pull/18
[16:04] <StucKman> https://github.com/ubports/docs.ubports.com/pull/18/files
[16:04] <StucKman> yeah, that one, thanks
 @ehvolevi, Do you have a caf device?
[16:05] <ehvolevi> unfortuantelly yes
 If so, this rootfs will be correct: http://ci.ubports.com/job/xenial-7.1-caf-sudoku-rootfs/
[16:05] <ehvolevi> with ssh?
 Install that with the xenial-actuallyfixit branch of rootstock-touch-install and you should be off to the races
 It automagically enables SSH.
 You need the caf build so that Mir will at least attempt to work. The non-caf build would still give you SSH if it was enabled.
[16:06] <ehvolevi> sure thanks
[16:06] <ehvolevi> (btw i have caf rootfs ^^)
[16:06] <ehvolevi> i try install script
[16:10] <StucKman> how much the stack depends on android? could it be ported to a normal distribution?
 Our builds with all of their Upstart script goodness depend on that Android container starting and running. It's probable that the rest would run without it as long as Mir started on the target platform.
 We haven't given an honest try, really. :/
[16:13] <ehvolevi> out of memory error damn
[16:13] <StucKman> mir the display server?
 @ehvolevi, Did that happen with the other script?
 @StucKman, Mir the display server.
[16:13] <ehvolevi> no, with both
 Alright. You get to use my new feature. :P
[16:14] <ehvolevi> :/
[16:14] <StucKman> is mir used for anythong more than the 'desktop'? could the apps and APIs (I know the stack is Qt based) could run on a wayland or Xorg stack?
[16:14] <StucKman> anything*
 ehvolevi, Use the `-b` switch to push a custom Busybox.
 In your case, push the `toybox` binary that your tree built. it's probably in `$OUTDIR/system/bin`
[16:16] <ehvolevi> full command plz?
 It's documented under 'options' in the README. https://github.com/universalsuperbox/rootstock-ng/tree/xenial-actuallyfixit
 I don't know exactly where yours would be, or where the rest of your files are.
 @StucKman, Mir is the display server / client protocol that is used. Unity 8, the apps, the dash, everything is written to that protocol (or at least abstrations on top of it, like QtMir). I know that it wouldn't "just work," but I also don't know how much work it'd be to make apps alone work on other platforms.
[16:19] <ehvolevi> ahh, thanks, lets see
 Dalton, why the hell doesn't Unity8 start on Xenial
 Because it's hitting an error
 fair enough
 lol
 http://slackwise.net/files/images/Adventure%20Time/Adventure%20Time%20-%20I%20have%20approximate%20knowledge%20of%20many%20things.gif
 (Sticker, 445x512) https://irc.ubports.com/wG0IncZh/file_1622
 @UniversalSuperBox, You hit the end of it. :P
[16:21] <ehvolevi> universalsuperbox: i get unpacking rootfs tarball to system-image ... /sbin/sh: /data/toybox: not found           however it seems unpacked
 oh @mariogrip . have you tried reflashing your phone with freshly downloaded rootfs?
 @ehvolevi, Did the output ever say "Enabling Mir"?
[16:22] <ehvolevi> yes
 And it enabled SSH?
 Gave you the password prompt and so?
[16:23] <ehvolevi> well, lets see
[16:24] <ehvolevi> well, the ubuntu.img is empty
 Oh boy, what did I do
[16:24] <ehvolevi> only lost+found
[16:24] <ehvolevi> it says no /data/toybox
 Can you pastebin all of its output?
[16:24] <ehvolevi> ok
 @UniversalSuperBox, forgot sync?
[16:25] <ehvolevi> https://bpaste.net/show/73a646101dc7
 bpaste.net
 first time i see it
 lol
 @vanyasem, not yet, will do that tonight
 That's a weird place to complain about toybox.
 thank you, im really excited :P
 @UniversalSuperBox, nope, it's not
 Oh, happened in unpacking too.
 it complains 2 times
[16:26] <ehvolevi> yep
 you can push it manually
 I want to fix it
 `adb push ../out/target/product/a5ultexx/system/bin/toybox /data/toybox`
 It's a branch called actuallyfixit
 toybox doesn't work for me btw for some reason, i use `busybox`
 !!
 because man am i busy
[16:27] <ehvolevi> hmm
 Oh, I see
 what dalton?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Y3sbKYII/file_1623
 Something wonky with `basename`, I guess
 Or the push.
[16:32] <StucKman> @UniversalSuperBox: ok, thanks for all the info
 No problem
 Did you get it working, ehvolevi?
[16:46] <ehvolevi> hmm, 50-50
[16:46] <ehvolevi> the installer
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/ZwxIlE5K/file_1625.jpg
 Alright?
[16:47] <ehvolevi> i created the img on mt pc and modified the script to not push tarball nor create img
 This app switcher was wayyy smoother than the current one
 @ehvolevi, Ah, okay. There's an alternative script for Halium that does that too. If you can automate it, I suppose it wouldn't be such a bad thing.
 Certainly a good alternative to rootstock.
[16:48] <ehvolevi> yep ^^
 But the script for Halium doesn't install UT rootfs's properly
 So, if you can get those steps into the script I'd love to take a look at it
[16:49] <ehvolevi> sure
 @Gabigol, really? I like that one because it shows the app entirely, but I don't remember it's smoother...
 Yes it was, if you flash an old image you immediatly recognize the differences
 👍🏻
 In fact, most of the reboots I´ve on the FP2 is on the app switcher
[16:56] <ehvolevi> ssh is hanging with no output
[16:56] <ehvolevi> btw i can ping 10.15.19.82
 @Gabigol, Is not the same?
 @ehvolevi, Hmm. Great @vanyasem, did you have this?
 @SergioSRM, Nope, their different
 It changed when they merged the two different app-switchers of unity8 (there were one one for desktop and one for the phone/staged mode)
 The old one does not showed your wallpaper neither the app logo.
 @Gabigol, And is for a future release?
 I guess not, unfortanelly... like I said the old one performed wayyyy better imho
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/4EflMJPx/file_1627.jpg
 At tbe moment I see this
 I see the differences but it's a little bit laggy
 Yep, the old one was super fast, I remember swipping up and down to close the apps I had oppened in secconds. Now, it's almost impossible because the phoen reboots
 @Gabigol, that's weired. my phone had never rebooted while trying to close apps. simply I can close apps without any problem...
 Fairphone2 suffer from this disease xD
 reboots on hard tasks
 @Gabigol, My OnePlus One never rebooted at the moment 😆
[17:16] <ehvolevi> I tried to ssh, it asked me for a password and after i typed it and pressed enter, it froze without output, i can't run anything nor press ctrl-c
 hum...
 I´ll try to capture a video of this "feature".
[17:16] <StucKman> ehvolevi: try ssh -v
[17:17] <ehvolevi> i can't run anything
[17:18] <StucKman> ehvolevi: type <ENTER>~.<ENTER>
[17:18] <StucKman> that should escape the ssh connection
 hi party people.  Mr. @Crash_Burn can't access supergroup and had this comment.  Any comments for him? … Anyone else having sms problems? My N5 stops receiving txts until I place or receive calls.
 @SergioSRM, Open all of your apps, then trey to close them fastest you can. Mine crash 9 out 10 x)
 @Gabigol, 👍🏻
 @Gabigol, I've never tried like that, I only close apps normally
 @Gabigol, I did it, my phone still working
 Laggy for a few seconds but everything ok
 Yeah, the older app switcher was "lighter" even on earlier images of UBports for FP2.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/EReuT04j/file_1628.mp4
[18:08] <tgBot> Owen Roe was added by: Owen Roe
[18:10] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Hi, I'm having issues getting Ubuntu Touch setup on a nexus 5. The Ubports installer is hanging on the "Please reboot to bootloader screen" despite the device being in the bootloader screen. I got past this screen on the first attempt to install, but the installer hung on the "waiting for recovery mode" screen. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 Could you try with this appimage? http://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/mariogrip-dev/2/artifact/dist/ubports-installer-0.1.8-beta-x86_64.AppImage
[18:12] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Okay, I will try that and report back. Thanks
[18:16] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Still no luck. The installer hangs on the "Please reboot to bootloader" screen
 Hmm. Just to confirm, your phone is at this screen?
 (Photo, 1000x664) https://irc.ubports.com/k7e5ZmpL/file_1630.jpg
 And says "Device is UNLOCKED"
[18:19] <tgBot> Greg was added by: Greg
[18:20] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> No it does not say unlocked.
 Aha.
 What's your host OS?
[18:20] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> ubuntu 17.10
[18:21] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Well, it does "LOCK STATE - UNLOCKED" upon closer inspection
 17.10 is an unhappy camper, it seems. @mariogrip, any steps you'd like to take that might get us closer to a fix?
 Permenantly, in the code.
 Hey, just got a fairphone 2 I'm looking to flash and I've not done this before and have a few questions
 1) Do you need to be in USB debugging for the installer to work? 2) Does the version of android matter the phone I've got is on 6. 3) I have the old camera I read there was some problems with the new camera is that still a thing?
 1. Normally, yes. You also need to enable OEM unlocking in developer options so we can unlock the bootloader. If you're running the installer on 17.10, we are having issues with that. … 2. No, but you'll need to run either the RC or Devel channel builds for now. The new screen module does not work in stable builds. … 3. The new camera module does not work yet.
[18:30] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> So is there no hope for installing on 17.10?
 @Owen Roe, can you give this a try? http://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/mariogrip-dev/7/artifact/dist/ubports-installer-0.1.8-beta-x86_64.AppImage
 @mariogrip, Already sent to him
 here is how to use an appimage https://discourse.appimage.org/t/how-to-make-an-appimage-executable/80
 Already running
 oh ok
 Im running 17.10 and it works fine for me
 @Owen Roe, when the installer asks for password, does you enter your pc passwork? since he have had some problems with it not telling you if the password is wrong
 can you give it another try?
[18:35] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> I do enter the correct password. I am having issues detecting the device at all. The mdt also fails to detect my device, along with adb
 When does the UbuntuTouch Contacts App support CardDAV / owncloud / nextcloud?
 oh! could you try a different usb cables, we have had alot of people with broken usb cables making these wierd issues
 @Greg, Hello Greg and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @Owen Roe, Hello and welcome to you, too, Owen Same message for you!     … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
[18:39] <tgBot> Feel_Guy was added by: Feel_Guy
[18:42] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Yes, I will try that and report. I did switch cables after the first attempt as the first cable didn't seat well in the phone. … And thank you, Wayne.
[18:43] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Feel_Guy, Hello Ibrahim and also welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 Thanks Dalton! Would you recommend 16.04 or 15.04, I assume it's relatively easy to switch? Is there some way to tell which screen module I have? The fairphone was second hand so might not have the new module. Is the wipe option in the installer equivalent of wiping the home user directory or such?
 @Greg, Definitely use 15.04, 16.04 is not ready for use. In any case, it can't hurt to try stable first.
 hey! anyone know why I can't edit my old messages?  That's weird...
 @Greg, Yes, wipe is complete reset of user partition + out of box experience enabled
 Wipe is generally a good idea if you're coming from Android, so make sure you don't want any data from Android. :)
 Awesome, thanks a lot guys!
 @wayneoutthere, this message.. I would like to add some hashtags but I can't seem to edit it....
 but i can edit my message a few up...
 weird....
 maybe if it goes too far back in history it loses edit feature?
 they don't want me to re-write history!!!
 conspiracy!!!!
[18:50] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> Every theory can be understood as conspiracy,
 @Milan Korecky, CONSPIRACY!!!
 Hey just running the installer for 15.04 stable and it's stuck on the boot into recovery mode section, I hold the buttons down and I just have the fairphone screen it's been sitting on that for about 3 minutes so tried to reboot it normally and it's stuck on that too.
[18:58] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Well here is an update, it seems it was the USB cable. I checked the continuity on the cable I was using, turns out it is a charge-only cable. Seems to be working now, the phone is on the "installing update" screen with the robot. I'll check back if I have any other issues. Thanks again for all your help! 😊
 I googled apparently it just takes ages
 @Owen Roe, Doh! ha.  Glad it turned out this simple :)
 Hey, is the 16.04 UT stable enough for daily use or not?
 @Anghirrim, I think 'no'
 Did you watch community update?
 Anything useful I learned that is technical (or funny) I  learned here: … https://ubports.com/blog/community-updates-5
 I thin 15 is where @mariogrip does a Xenial Demo
 I did read, but long time ago
 Thanks for the link
 NP
 I know that it happend 2538462 of messages before....but I have an update for my broken M10
 I have to send it to Spain
 It's hardware failure and it's still uder waranty 😅
 @popescu_sorin Hey man. Are you using the dark theme for good or it was just a demo?
 @wayneoutthere, About 7 minutes I think I read
 @kristijantkalec, I had WPA2 and GPS not working on my M10 but with UBports install those problems were solved
 I had ubports, but all of a sudden, everything stopped
 It doesn't want to turn on or charge
 @Stereofont, really?
 so it is to stop re-writing history.  :)
[20:06] <tgBot> Dean was added by: Dean
 @Dean, Welcome Dean
 Hello Dean and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @malditobastardo, just a demo :D actually it was just a reason for me to record the terminal app and nemo X-)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsRvr18V6Q
 this video?
 Darkness yus
 SuruDark theme
 but it's not really supported
[20:21] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Any reason why this telegram chat does not appear in the app for Ubuntu touch?
 Because it's a supergroup. @Flohack is working on fixing it, ETA Soon(TM)
[20:28] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Owen Roe, Not supported yet, You have to zde the web app telegram
 Well... Impossible to install UT on my OPO, it's driving me crazy
 Under Windows (with a working adb and fastboot environment)
 @Anghirrim, Installed the device drivers?
 Of course yes.
 My adb/fastboot setup is working perfectly
 Sorry I didn't mean to be rude. Just checking absolute basics
 @Stereofont, No problem, I do the same.
 😉
 For UbPorts, I choose the manual install because of the A0001 bug.
 Truthfully, most here regard Windows as toxic, so don't know much about it
 I tested both
 Ubuntu 17.10 and Windows 7
 Did you try the new appimage?
 Under Windows, so UbPorts does not detect my device under fastboot
 17.10 is a known issue
 And CPT does detect it and flash Ubuntu recovery. But when phone restarts under recovery, it's not detected, once again...
 For 17.10, yep I feared so.
 But I did the upgrade recently so was reluctant to get back to 17.04
 So no luck with 17.10?
 @mariogrip, With appimage
 Let me check for appimage.
 I did try with CPT, Ubports-installer and magic tool
 http://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/mariogrip-dev/7/artifact/dist/ubports-installer-0.1.8-beta-x86_64.AppImage
 This is new
 In the wiki?
 Cauz' I tried both pages
 Self-contained
 https://ubports.com/page/ubuntu-oneplus-one
 Link above
 Blah blah 64 appimage
 Yep, will look at ir
 Thanks
 This too
 Fwd from mariogrip: here is how to use an appimage https://discourse.appimage.org/t/how-to-make-an-appimage-executable/80
 Lol,I began to look for this on Internet
 Thanks
 Lol.  Make notes. You are a Guinea pig
 Gents, where can i found the latest UBports windows installer ?
 ...
 Lol.
 @Ern_st, On the UbPorts website
 Go to devices section
 @Stereofont, So this AppImage is a kind of container that has everything inside?
 @Anghirrim, Is this the latest tool version ^^ ?
 The latest public at least.
 @Anghirrim, From my noob perspective that is what it is. Like an installer for Mac
 @Ern_st, Scroll up and have a go with the appimage option. If it is simple we can start recommendating it
 Yep, I've read some of the threads on the appimage website
 I'm done for tonight with it. I'll try out and report tomorrow.
 @Anghirrim, Great. Thanks
 Because on 17.10, I did install both UbPorts-installer and magic tool snaps
 Magic tool launches but fails because it does not find the proper tools
 @Stereofont, Hmm. I am not George W Bush. Honestly. 'Recommending'
 And UbPorts installer messes up with .Xauthorities when trying to launch it with root privileges
 If it solves the dependencies issue that is a headache out of the way
 You make me want to try now. 😂
 But my wife will kill me. I consumed all my "IT stuff" credit for tonight
 UBports takes no responsibility for marital breakdowns : terms and conditions apply
 😂
 Are there mainly dev's here?
 Or some noobs like me?
 I mean, I can read wiki's but I can't write a single code li'e
 Nor can I!
 Was just to know what is the "expected comprehension level"
 There is a complete range from curious to hardware hackers
 Great. I'm part of the "advanced curious", those who like to try things out and search before asking.
 No expectation at all. Anyone welcome
 An army of testers is needed for each developer. If the screen inverts unexpectedly, anyone who spots that is valuable
[21:13] <tgBot> <Milan Korecky> @Stereofont, 👍
 (Photo, 949x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/YFJSzWtD/file_1632.jpg Seems the AppImage is detecting the phone at least.
 Will launch the real installation tomorrow.
 (Photo, 949x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0z9GqEss/file_1634.jpg While the regular installation fails....
 I just launched both AppImage and Regular version of the UbPorts-installer.
 Initial restart when you get there is very slow. 15-20 minutes. Don't get impatient
 There is no progress feedback
 Yeah I know. I already ran UT on  a Nexus 5 some months ago.
 But thanks for the reminder
 Unless that got fixed…
 I flashed with the magic tool at that time
 Gotta sleep. Bye guys
 Night
 @Anghirrim, don't do it!!!
 Latest rc update was today ? rc9?
 Hmm I think the date is wrong
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/6U022IA0/file_1636.jpg
 It doesn't say 1970. That's progress
 yay OTA3 47% completed
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/6?closed=1
 Hey guys, check this out: I travelled in time!!!
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/cVe0jCVW/file_1638.jpg
 wow LOL
 (Sticker, 314x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0kMVekVs/file_1639
 wubba lubba dub dub!!!!
 @per_sonne, That's some pretty good battery life
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Rj2300eH/file_1640
 @per_sonne, new math tool
[21:57] <tgBot> <Stefan Kalb> @malditobastardo, Ah, reminds me that I wanted to file a bug. The date changes everytime when you open the updater.
 The only phone with time travel
 @Stereofont, Haha yeah I remember. It was like that for me before
 @Stefan Kalb, True. I just realize about it. Thanks
 @Stefan Kalb, this issue? https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/289
 @popescu_sorin, This was the reason I wanted to check now for updates. Then I tried the new search engine. Duck duck. But it was still google
 Look at this battery graphic from FP2
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/7h1M8Q8E/file_1642.jpg
 @mariogrip, if Einstein was alive, he would ave a fp2 with him ( time travel )
 Look above
 It's a 'feature'
 @popescu_sorin, Dark theme? More like pure black theme.
 I am interested in the DNS fix. (To see battery impact). Krack. Keyboard bug. Etc
 (Photo, 540x605) https://irc.ubports.com/96FW935o/file_1644.jpg
 I've done 😊
 I hope video play for nexus 5 will get fixed too. At least there is the workaround UTmedia
 Dual boot on my computer. Now with LinuxMInt 18.2 (ubuntu16.04 - snap) it works without problems to flash the rhone.
 @Markus, bq e4.5?
 Yes on my BQ E4.5
 i think you need to update?
 are you on legacy? installed with mdt?
 Yes 👍🏻 I must update. But now im glad, that it works.
 Installed mith mdt.
 if you update it will automagically move to 15.04 channel
 you are now on the old legacy
 Legacy is redirected to Stable, so you should be good to go
 I'm installing via CPT on my fairphone, it's flashed recovery but doesn't say it's doing anything else, has it crashed or does it just not say until it's done?
 It doesn't say
 Wait 20 minutes
 Just a minimalist logo
 Awesome thanks I was getting concerned it was hanging
 A progress bar has been talked about but not a top priority if you know
 @Anghirrim, A message for tomorrow. … I flashed UT on my OPO this week and I had the same issues than you. My OPO labeled as A001 so it's not recognized my the official tool. … With the help of this fantastic community I succeeded in flashing it. … A member of this chat documented everything and I don't know where he posted
 Sergio Reyes: … To make it simple.  … 1º I had to install phablet tools and ubuntu device tools using your .deb files … 2º then run sudo apt-get install -f to fix dependencies … 3º then boot the device into fastboot/bootloader mode, and run in the terminal "sudo su" and then  … " … sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=bacon \ … --channel=15.04/stable --bootstrap … "
 @Crash_Burn do you have the full instructions to share it with him?
[23:01] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:01] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: ON: no sygin fag
[23:03] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:03] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: ON: no sygin fag
[23:04] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:04] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: OFF: no sygin fag
[23:04] <mhaaanz> _ohm luvs pedo
[23:04] <mhaaanz> android is the bestest
[23:07] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:07] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: OFF: no sygin fag
 It worked with ubports installer
[23:09] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:09] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: OFF: no sygin fag
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LCl0K0Z9/file_1646.jpg
 😅
[23:10] <mhaaanz> Yo_y got hhacked
[23:10] <mhaaanz> Sl0w mode anti-sigyn fag: OFF: no sygin fag
 Just to let you know
 Thanks
 @SergioSRM, Awesome work @SergioSRM , thats exactly right.  I believe Marius is close to releasing a new and improved Ubuntu Installer that solves these problems.
 http://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/mariogrip-dev/7/artifact/dist/ubports-installer-0.1.8-beta-x86_64.AppImage
 It looks like Anghirrim is trying the new method ?
 I don't know. I opened the chat and I had nearly 300 to read 😅 … I just looked over and saw that someone was in trouble trying to flash an OPO so I just wanted to share my experience 😗