=== Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [00:10] sruli: well you want weird stuff [00:13] hello [00:14] any? [00:14] for do a ask ? [00:15] can you change interface for KDE ? [00:17] albertx, change to gnome? [00:27] Ben64: define wierd [00:29] bazhang: excuse me , no , I want KDE [00:35] sruli: Does it require root permissions to write any files to the local directory? Using sshfs shouldn't cause you to need to use sudo where you wouldn't otherwise need to. [00:35] Jordan_U: yes need sudo to write to local dir [00:37] sruli: Then what does that have to do with sshfs? No matter how you access the remote files you'll need root to write them to a local directory (if that local directory requires root permissions to write to). [00:38] Jordan_U: sshfs should not be mounted with sudo, if it's not you cant access the mount with sudo, i dont know of a way to copy the file as user and paste as root [00:40] * albertx searching ... interface kde [00:40] Ben64: is there a way with rsync to "--out-format="%n"" to file instead of stdout? [00:41] anyone know of a good blog or article on how to move a physical ubuntu os to vmware. without using vmware vCenter tool. [00:53] sruli: Looks like -o allow_other allows other users (including root) to read from an sshfs mount. [00:54] sruli: To use that option as non-root, you'll need to edit /etc/fuse.conf . [00:54] Jordan_U: need ot change ssh config to allow that, i am not sure of the wider implications of setting allow_other in ssh config [00:54] Jordan_U: sorry i meant fuse.conf [00:54] sruli: You do not need to change ssh config, only fuse configuration. [00:54] Jordan_U: not sure of the wider implications of setting that [00:59] sruli: Looks like the allow_other mount option allows any user access to any files (as long as the underlying fuse filesystem allows, for example you'll never be able to read files that require root access on the remote machine if you're logging in to the remote machine as non-root). Adding default_permissions makes it more secure by checking file modes. If you provide allow_root then only root (and the [00:59] mounting user) will be able to access the files. [01:01] sruli: As far as I can tell, the option is not allowed by default only because it might lead to users accidentally giving other users access that they did not intend to give. So it's to save you from shooting yourself in the foot security-wise. So just be careful to aim away from your toes (and probably stick to only using the allow_root mount option, even though you will be uncommenting [01:01] #user_allow_other in /etc/fuse.conf) . [01:02] Jordan_U: will try that, need to reboot after change? [01:07] so, i got ubuntu riced and installed, but now it won't shutdown.. o.O [01:08] it says "A stop job is running for Network Manager 55s / 1min 30 ss" [01:16] Jordan_U: thanks, saved me a bunc of time needing to rewrite my scripts [01:30] if i do "ssh user@server "do something" " does it auto logout when job complete? [01:31] you can test it by asking it to do `ls` [01:31] Sveta_: if comes back to my user in terminal, just want to be sure session has closed [01:32] i think it should show the directory listing too, i'll check in a moment [01:32] yes, `ssh sveta@remoteip ls` shows me the `ls` output at the remoteip machine and then logs out [01:32] Sveta_: yes it execute the "ls" just want to make the session logout [01:33] thanks [01:33] i think the answer is 'yes, it does auto logout' [01:33] no worries :) [01:34] night all [01:48] Greetings! [01:49] I'm having issue using openconnect on Kubuntu 17.10. I've created the profile, but when I press CONNECT nothing happens. [01:49] anyone with suggestions? [01:53] I'm having hard drive errors, but smartctl doesn't show any errors. Is there a simple way to test my drive? (USB drive) [01:54] I had to run fsck.ext4 and repair the fs, which put a few files in lost+found [01:55] snapfractalpop: what happened to get errors? Did your machine prematurely restart? [01:55] I think smartctl is solely for debugging SSD-specific problems [01:56] s/debugging/diagnosing/ [01:56] rfleming: I'm not sure what the original cause of the errors were.. but I have had the machine go down in a power outage [01:56] snapfractalpop: that's most likely the cause of your disk errors. [01:57] rfleming: is there a way to check that all the sectors are ok? [01:57] smart is only for disk diagnostics on a set number of sensors... used to predict when a disk will fail. [01:57] snapfractalpop: that's what fsck is for :) [01:57] I have had other drives go bad where sectors were reported as unusable [01:58] but if you want to do a surface scan, you can (I think) use the -c option in fsck [01:58] rfleming: I used fsck with -p, but I had to go interactive because of the nature of some of the errors [01:58] I manually said 'y' to everything.. but I want to run another scan to see what's up [01:59] I also had concerns that my USB controller could have issues.. but I'm not sure if that's a likely scenario [02:00] and to complicate things further, my syslog is getting spammed with "tag#0 Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] [descriptor]" [02:00] for a different drive, which is supposedly a false positive [02:01] still get shared folders working between lubuntu and mint-de vms, despite the windows host my windows laptop being able to access the shares on both.... anyone have any other suggestions, have tried samba for hours, NFS as well [02:02] zztopless: idk your situation, but maybe a simple http server would suffice? [02:02] node has a package called http-server [02:02] and python has python -M SimpleHTTPServer or something like that [02:03] snapfractalpop: Most hard drives are supported : https://www.smartmontools.org/ ; https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/TocDoc ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools . [02:03] node? [02:04] I'm wondering if sticking another hdd in mt pfsense box and using one of the file sharing packages might be better in the short term? [02:04] Bashing-om: I have some success with doing: sudo smartctl -a -d sat /dev/sdd [02:05] Bashing-om: but the option in the gui of the gnome disk utility (disks) is grayed out [02:05] zztopless: node as in nodejs [02:05] ah [02:05] zztopless: if you have it installed.. otherwise, the python one works well too [02:06] zztopless: but I remember nodejs being faster at bulk transfers over http for some reason in my tests [02:06] snapfractalpop: Can not advise about the GUI interface - never used it myself . [02:06] k, will have a look at both [02:07] Bashing-om: is that command I mentioned the proper way to query the drive? Is this something that the drive will have data on, or do I have to set something up in fstab? [02:07] I do have python installed, [02:07] mostly just because it's so often needed to compile packages [02:08] zztopless: try cd /path/to/share/directory; [02:08] zztopless: then: python -m SimpleHTTPServer [02:09] zztopless: then from the other computer (on the same subnet) navigate to it's ip address [02:09] zztopless: probably something like 192.168.0.xxx [02:10] zztopless: and add a ":8000" at the end.. or whatever port the server says it's running on [02:10] snapfractalpop: I have not seen 'sat' - will have to consukt the manual . .. try as ' sudo smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sdd ' . Where you "know" that the target is that 4th drive . [02:13] ok, will give it a go [02:13] Bashing-om: I get "Read Device Identity failed: Invalid argument" [02:13] Bashing-om: and "A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options." [02:14] Bashing-om: but if I s/ata/sat/ I get some results.. [02:17] SmearedBeard: ' sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdd ' let's say presently that we are not accessing with libata such then that 'ata' is invalid . [02:21] Bashing-om: this is my output when I use "-d sat" https://ghostbin.com/paste/ygbao [02:23] snapfractalpop: looking. [02:23] Bashing-om: thanks [02:27] snapfractalpop: That seems good to me . A deeper ( and takes a long time ) test is as ' sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sdd ' . [02:28] Bashing-om: ok, I'll try that. That would be a "self test" right? [02:28] Bashing-om: is it weird that no errors showed when I had to do fsck? [02:29] snapfractalpop: Yes .. just run the command in terminal .. and wait ---- wait for it wait . [02:29] or is smartmon confirming that the hardware is ok, and fsck was showing that the filesystem got messed up somehow? [02:30] snapfractalpop: Depends on what outputs you wanted fsck to report . What is the fsck command that you ran ? [02:30] snapfractalpop: Not at all uncommon for the file system to become inconsistent .. and the hardware is just fine . [02:31] Bashing-om: well, at first I just noticed the drive was sluggish, and sometimes not mounting. then I checked /var/log/syslog, and found that it recommended running fsck, so I ran that as "sudo fsck.ext4 -p -C0" [02:31] and it said that some decisions would need to be made manually.. [02:31] so I ran again without the "-p" and said 'y' to everything.. [02:31] but some files ended up in lost+found, and I didn't see any hardware errors in smartmon [02:34] Bashing-om: so now I want to be careful, and check the hardware for errors [02:34] snapfractalpop: Well as you now know ' -p ' : -p trys fixes where response not required . Now I do consider that the file checking routines in fsck are a lot smarter than I am ! . "-y ' : auto answers yes for fixes needing response . [02:36] snapfractalpop: What led to determinning that sdd was the drive with issues ? [02:37] Bashing-om: well, now it is /dev/sde (it's an external usb drive, so the drive letter changes) [02:38] Bashing-om: I determine this by "tail -f /var/log/syslog" among other things [02:38] snapfractalpop: Good 'Nuf - the syslog does not lie :) [02:39] Bashing-om: hopefully.. although all this #tag0 spamming makes me wonder.. [02:40] snapfractalpop: Is there a change in reported errors when the USB port is changed ? [02:41] Bashing-om: for the #tag0 stuff? [02:41] snapfractalpop: someone strange happened, not sure if it was the python script, but after trying the usual methods, I just put the IP of the other other vm with the shared folder in (just the IP int he location var, no \\ or SMB or suffixed with the shared folder name [02:41] and suddenly I was in the root of the file system at that IP [02:42] zztopless: in which directory did you run python -m SimpleHTTPServer? [02:44] Jus6 checked, it didn't run, I made a typo (missed half the line copying it) [02:44] weird [02:44] Sgut [02:45] sorry, ignore that [02:45] got 2 horus sleep last night (1:45PM now) [02:46] I was looking in the other vm, I ran it in the target shared folder, /media/contribute/ [02:46] and in the client vm, when I go into /media I see that folder and one labelled lubuntu [02:47] for the record there are other folders in media [02:47] zztopless: wait, these are vms? ah.. I didn't know that.. I'm not sure if there is some NAT happening then.. [02:48] zztopless: are all of these vms in the same subnet? [02:48] they are, but both running in bridged mode with assigned IPs at the router/firewall (pfsense) [02:48] yep [02:49] they can both access various windows shares from computes around my apartment [02:49] zztopless: that's strange.. I have never had SimpleHTTPServer serve anything but the current directory it was run in [02:50] And I was testing using was as a TOR/Freenet/I2P server and the other VM and my PC as clients, and that worked fine too [02:51] well I get a permission error when trying to creat a folder or file, so let's see if I can get that fixed first [02:52] zztopless: to be clear, the machine with the share folder (lets say it has ip: 192.168.0.3), you cd to /media/contribute, then run python -m SimpleHTTPServer and from the other computer, go to your web browser (chromium, firefox, brave, whatever) and type 192.168.0.3:8000 in the address bar, and that shows you the root directory of the machine with the share? [02:54] hmm actually not sure if it's working, I had queued up coping the folder structure in /media from the server to the client, via windows.. yep, that's what happened, just have started it [02:54] been a weird day [02:55] zztopless: that is strange [02:55] https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=57475.0 could be promising... my pfsense box is way under-used [02:56] zztopless: what happens when you run "ll" in the /media/contribute directory? [02:56] that should show you permissions.. [02:56] and list the files and directories [02:57] looking for a tool like assogiate [02:57] "ubuntu-tweak" doesn't work anymore for me [02:58] Bashing-om: btw, I ran the smartctl -t command (I had to specify "-d sat" again), and it seems like the "job" or whatever it might be called went to the background [02:59] Bashing-om: the command prompt came back, and there is a message that the Test will be complete in 196 minutes [02:59] Bashing-om: I guess the test is running in "offline mode" [03:00] snapfractalpop: one sec, copying the output gave me unsupported characters [03:01] total 16 [03:01] drwx------ 1 user user 4096 Nov 2 08:03 ./ [03:01] drwx------ 1 user user 12288 Nov 2 08:05 ../ [03:04] snapfractalpop: Yeah .. will take a long time .. [03:05] Bashing-om: if everything looks ok after the self-test, I wonder then if I could also have a USB bus controller problem.. [03:05] not sure how such a thing could be tested [03:08] zztopless: so, there is nothing inside that directory? [03:08] not yet [03:09] zztopless: the methods I was describing are not writable, AFAIK [03:09] There will be [03:10] in other words, using the simple http server in this way will only make those files available to download from other local networked devices, but not to upload [03:10] That's ok, I'll work it out eventually, appreciate the help === TikTok is now known as michealb [03:11] That could work as a poor last resort by putting it on the other end an having a script copy the contents periodically, timed with a script and the other end that empties it (to not waste space) [03:11] zztopless: but if you want to have data going "both directions", you might want to look into ssh [03:12] Very convoluted compared to a simple shared folder between to OSs that are essentially the same :/ [03:12] I'm pretty sure the default setting for openssh-server is to allow sftp [03:12] I did have a quick dabble with sshfs earlier [03:13] I've had success with it in the past, but forgot everything I learned, though I do remember one particular file manager was set up to work really with with it [03:13] and you can then use the pub keys (usually ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub) and append them to the respective authorized keys file [03:13] (~/.ssh/authorized_keys) [03:14] zztopless: Both boxes 'buntu and in the same house on a shared router ? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 . [03:14] yes [03:14] then you can have secure sftp, which the file browser can treat as regular local files via sshfs [03:15] yeah, that's what I was looking at - hopefully works :P [03:16] Gonna take a break for a few hours, been up since 5am as my GF starts work at insane-people o'clock and her car's being repaired atm [03:19] Going to bite the bullet and get a NAS in a few weeks (nothing fancy, just large enough to give 10TB of usable space with (probably) RAID5. Should make sorting out share folders and what not a lot simpler you'd hope [03:20] what flavour Ubuntu do you use snapfractalpop? [03:20] zztopless: I'm on UbuntuStudio [03:21] which uses xfce, so it's a bit like xubuntu, but with lowlatency kernel out of the box [03:21] zztopless: what are you running? [03:22] Kubuntu, the Mint-KDE have always been my preferred (the two are very similar) [03:22] http://www.active-technologies.com/content/ubuntu-file-type-control-mime-control [03:22] what happened to assogiate [03:22] I like lubuntu with it's low footprint when needed [03:22] zztopless: lets keep it support related mate [03:23] we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel :p [03:24] After years of doing most of my work on Kubuntu/Mint (mostly marketing consulting these days, but was a lot more setting up websites for small businesses when i started it), I still use Windows as my host [03:24] Not sure why [03:24] sorry [03:24] does anyone know of any file type GUI tool [03:24] ubuntu-tweak doesn't work for me [03:25] gotta run for a bit, thanks for the help guys, snapfractalpop especially. === zztopless is now known as zz-afk [03:25] zztopless: well, good luck on setting it up. [03:26] thanks :-) [03:26] zz-afk: you're welcome [03:26] zz-afk: be sure to look into ssh though, it's easier than you might think [03:27] thanks, will do absolutely [03:28] all I want to do is associate a file type with a portable application in my home folder [03:28] and I don't want to have to make stupid files and use xdg-mime to do it [03:28] i just want to click and click and be done [03:29] bloop: your on mint? [03:29] no [03:29] ubuntu 16.04 [03:29] bloop: perhaps the #kubuntu guys might know some package? [03:41] this is really dumb [03:41] I put the launcher in /usr/share/applications and it's still not present in "open with" view all applications [03:42] how do people associate programs with file types on ubuntu? [03:42] without hacking out a stupid XML file for each and every single one [03:43] bloop: https://askubuntu.com/questions/171098/how-do-i-change-a-documents-extension-file-extension-file-format [03:44] my application that I want to associate doesn't show up in the list [03:44] like I just said [03:44] 10 seconds ago [03:45] and for some RIDICULOUS reason... ubuntu doesn't have a browse option [03:45] like windows [03:46] bloop: calm down mate [03:46] bloop: wich app are we talking about? [03:46] why does it matter? [03:46] it's a portable app [03:47] i copied the launcher into /usr/share/applications [03:48] bloop: the more info you give us, the better we can help you [03:48] what I want is a file type and association manager like in ubuntu-tweak [03:48] but it doesn't work anymore and is discontinued [03:54] bloop: wich extension are we talking about? [03:54] it's sublime text and I want several extensions [03:55] but that doesn't matter [03:55] because the problem is general [03:56] HOLY poop! I setup postfix as an SMTP local-send-only server earlier today, started to add sasl to make it remote accessible, checked logs, and WHAMBAM logs -> NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[23.227.207.153]: 454 4.7.1 : Relay access denied; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= :o [03:56] Can’t u just open the file right click and then select the open with????? [03:56] my postfix rejected an email from spameri too :) [03:57] I had no idea email spammers were so... active... on little servers [03:57] I did find a cool thing though: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/news.admin.net-abuse.email/FluMw5tx0xo [03:58] they probably send to all addresses [03:58] was within 15 minutes after setting 'inet_interfaces = all' [03:58] heh [03:59] bcowan, nope [04:00] bcowan, you can only choose from a list of files on your system that were installed a certain way [04:00] Hmmm I have the option to open with other application here [04:01] bcowan, screenshot [04:01] bcowan, I mean yes [04:01] there is "open with" [04:01] but that list of applications is a list of applications that were installed in a very specific way [04:01] you can't just "browse" [04:01] and select a file like on windows [04:01] for some absurd reason [04:04] SmokinGrunts: try in #ubuntu-server perhaps? [04:05] Yeah I see, they send u to the stupid software center too [04:05] lotuspsychje, I shall, thanks. Tried here for visibilty first [04:07] i probably can't associate a file type with a program in my home directory because "muh security" [04:07] pffft === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [04:11] Hey [04:11] What is the default permissions of the a root owned directory such as /var/www/html/? [04:14] rgb-one: I have seen that owned by www-data or apache2 user instead of root.. [04:25] I didn't have luck doing a UEFI install until I did it with a DVD drive [04:25] snapfractalpop: I was referring to permissions in the form of 0755 and such [04:25] 0755 is the default from what I read [04:26] rgb-one: yes, 0755 is what I've always seen as well [04:27] rgb-one: usually, 0755 for directories, and 0644 for files in there [04:28] rgb-one: but I do not think that is true for all "root" owned directories [04:32] snapfractalpop: Oh === thurstylark is now known as thursdaylark [05:36] Need 8GB free space for Windows Update (Win 10-64 bit) | Small SSD, have GRUB 2 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on same SSD with Windows 10 install | Only have 6GB space in the Windows 10 partition free, no way to clear any more without attacking System/SystemResource folders for space | [05:37] Have unformatted space of 6GB, could use, but only if I convert Disk0 to dynamic disk [05:37] With dynamic disk conversion in Windows Disk Management, will I lose GRUB 2/Ubuntu function? [05:37] aka, will it kill my grub setup [05:38] If I figure this out on my own/hard way I'll report my findings ... [05:40] !dualboot | ttgg [05:40] ttgg: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [05:45] I already have dual boot setup and functioning. This is a disk partition/space management question, really more towards Microsoft because of the dynamic disk conversion would have to be initiated from Windows diskmgmt tool. I figured I'd ask here, since I thought this question would have come up before. [05:45] It's cool though, I'll figure out a solution. [05:47] ttgg: i think to expand a partition on ubuntu you can chroot from a liveusb, for windows expanding partition, ask i ##windows plz [05:48] Hey everyone, I've reformatted my SSD multiple times and can't for the life of me remove GRUB off of it, would clean all from diskpart from a windows 7 install disk remove it 100%? [05:50] Desez2tPunk, you try gparted from a liveboot? [05:50] Desez2tPunk: have you removed every partition? [05:50] Desez2tPunk: dban / raw re-write if you're just trying to blow the disk out. [05:51] sudo dd does all sorts of fun stuff, with the right user [05:52] Does dd manipulate the disk directly? Or does it deal with files? [05:54] reads and writes raw device files thru kernel [05:54] SmokinGrunts: Have not tried gparted from a liveboot, however with a windows install deleted every partition, and true formatted and now trying clean all in diskpart from windows 7 install disc, no usb available. Cobrax, deleted with windows install all partitions. [05:55] ttgg: Never heard of it but it seems interesting, will look into for future needs :) [05:56] disable safeboot in your bios and use gparted in a liveboot, imo [05:57] Technically clean all in diskpart supposedly writes 0 on everything, so I assume that'd get rid of grub, however at this rate I thought a full format woud have gotten rid of it but I was wrong LOL [05:57] windows always leaves weird things; ghosts, corruption, problems and issues :P [06:00] SmokinGrunts: Oh trust me, I prefer Linux, as of right now I'm running Kali on my laptop haha. Unfortunately this is being done for a friend, it started off as a simple lets move the windows from an HDD to an SSD but the SSD previously had a linux install, so I figured removing all partitions would remove grub and the linux install but to my surprise..... GRUB to the rescue! If only GRUB wasn't this good at staying alive..... (Ha [06:03] sounds like you just missed something [06:05] ttgg: sounds like you have non continuous space, that's why windows wants to make it dynamic. You could; or you could boot into a live cd and *move* the ubuntu installation so that windows gets more continuous space [06:05] Desez2tPunk: how are you formatting the SSD without removing grub? [06:06] also be aware of the differences between an MBR and GPT [06:07] also, best bet for Windows ALWAYS: backup your files and do a clean install ;) [06:09] alkisg: using a windows 7 install disc I used the command prompt and diskpart to format. [06:11] Desez2tPunk: sounds like you missed step 6, "clean": http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/005929en [06:11] SmokinGrunts: Oh trust me that's the one thing I've aways learned bahaha... I'm attempting to do that now, clean all finally removed grub however the windows install disc is throwing an error saying it can't make a new system partition, which I then made manually and it still won't install (I assumed GRUB was messing with it, guess not.) off to #windows I go [06:11] reading material https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Some_basics_of_MBR_v/s_GPT_and_BIOS_v/s_UEFI [06:11] Formatting a partition isn't the same as clearing the mbr [06:11] use gparted or another *nix tool to first clean, then setup your drives/partitions as you'd like. Then run OS installations [06:12] alkisg: Tried clean after formatting, and just now did clean all, GRUB removed, now to get dumb windows to install properly. I wish I could just install Linux lol [06:13] thanks alkisg your solution is the most elegant for my needs. It is trivial to point GRUB to a different mount point for Ubuntu, but moving Windows around in real life, is like moving Windows around in Minecraft. [06:13] Eh, nowadays installing win10 is quite fast [06:13] SmokinGrunts: Thanks for the reading material, I was actually attempting to look into the difference between MBR and GPT [06:13] damn, I had a great guide, but it's on my windoze box [06:13] np [06:13] best to learn when you have the chance; the opportunity provides motivation, which gives like +10 to learning skill [06:14] Win10 install, just did that about a week ago, was like... 1 hour~ magnitudes faster than 95-ME era installation, that's for sure. [06:14] skills stay with you, (some more than others...) and so it's like gold fer yer soul [06:15] Isn’t the MBr on the head of the drive? [06:15] yep, after firmwares [06:15] If you format it, how come it won’t be modified? [06:15] cuz windows? dunno heh [06:15] Cobrax: yes, sector 0. diskpart can format partitions, which start later. [06:16] Cobrax: it's like formatting /dev/sda1 in linux instead of /dev/sda [06:16] Yeah that’s ehat [06:17] I figured, if you format the entire drive there should be no GRUB [06:17] "format" is for partitions, while for mbr there's "clear" [06:17] Linux is a bit unique in that it can format (mkfs) the whole /dev/sda if someone really wants that [06:18] clear all also 0's everything out come to find out, in essence doing clears job, and full formatting [06:18] Wiping isn’t needed [06:19] Instead of doing clear I had done clear all which removed GRUB, granted took neary an hour for 223GB's lol. I know but we were going to wipe anyways. [06:19] it just uses up the lifetime of your drive [06:19] Unless you need to hide something [06:20] Not that I know of, was just hoping that would for sure get rid of GRUB which I found out it does lol [06:20] Does leenux view partitions are seperate devices? [06:21] SmokinGrunts: Mind if I PM you? [06:21] sure [06:34] Any ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com moderators present? I've just sent an announcement about a brief downtime which I'd like approved, please. [06:38] blahdeblah: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-ops ? [06:38] #ubuntu-ops aren't mailing list moderators [06:38] lotuspsychje: already did - just covering my bases. :-) [06:39] I'm sure the right people will see it eventually; just trying multiple avenues to be sure. [06:40] it may be a good idea to ask the people when you find them which avenues they would prefer for future reference, since if I recall correctly this is a recurring thing. [06:41] Anyway, the downtime is at 2017-11-05 23:00 to 00:00 UTC (but hopefully will take much less time than that) - spread the word! :-) [06:41] Services affected: many Ubuntu/Canonical web sites [06:43] Come see us in #canonical-sysadmin with any questions. [06:45] hey [06:50] good shit! [06:52] I ain't never seen follow-through like that before. Or at least rarely. [06:59] Hi all, I have big problem with keyboard after upgrade fromm 17.04 to 17.10. Previously every works perfect, but after upgrade from time to time my keyboard repeated randomly characters - usualy reboot solves problem. Today after I wakeup my laptop from suspend mode, problem exist and even reboot not fixed this. The second thing is my touchpad stopped working [07:00] Of course I tried google the ssolution, but there is no fix for my problem [07:02] currently I changed delay in universal access, but now keyboard have mega lag [07:03] dj_drops, what's your kernel version? open a terminal, type 'uname -a' [07:03] also what keyboard [07:04] 4.13.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 11 18:35:14 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:04] SmokinGrunts: internal in notebook [07:06] I'm trying to install lamp-server on Ubuntu. [07:06] http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu this isn't the right place, right? [07:08] ReedK0: looks fine [07:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP [07:08] except i guess it isn't 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" anymore [07:08] it says php5 isn't in use [07:08] hrm. dj_drops I suggest posting a thread on askubuntu, provide all of that info. Someone's going to ask you what your model name of laptop is, what the driver info for the keyboard is, and all that. usual stuff. [07:08] oh maybe that too [07:09] someone told me there's official documents for such things [07:09] I think help.ubuntu.org is official? [07:09] it's the community wiki [07:10] SmokinGrunts: thanks [07:10] no prob, now go get it solved [07:11] ben try 'sudo service apache2 restart' [07:12] lol I do things too fast. [07:12] disregard [07:12] :o [07:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - "Long term support (LTS) releases are for 5 years." sounds weird, I'd add "supported" in-between... === sjd_zeus1 is now known as sjd_zeus [07:27] hey i have 2 program or process running i saw that they were running using top command but i want to automate them by automate i mean if 1 process stops/killed ( by user ) other stops automatically. if one starts other starts as well [07:29] for start what i can do is if program is appeard in top command i can run other command [07:32] does the RX570 work okay in Ubuntu? [07:33] AMD has let me down in the past: 9600XT, 5800, 7950, R9 280X [07:33] is the RX series any better? [07:38] hey [07:39] trying to run a command at startup, wont work [07:39] it's the command to restart dropbox [07:39] in Xubuntu [07:41] anyone have trouble with crontab or maybe rc.local? [07:42] EndlessMacro: neither will work for that, there is a settings panel for startup tasks - use that instead [07:43] i have that window open [07:43] Dropbox is set to start\ [07:44] but the dropbox icon doesnt works until I run the command [07:44] make an entry for it under 'application autostart [07:45] ok i'll try that [07:45] can you please explain why it doesn't work in crontab or rc.local? [07:47] those are for system services, run as root, not your user, and have no access to your graphical session (both because of permissions etc and because they run before you even log in) [07:48] makes sense [07:50] hey i have bash script converted into binary shc to to decrypt it so i can change it :) [07:50] http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/05/encrypt-bash-shell-script/ [07:53] cool_dude: you don't have the original script? [07:53] no [07:54] that might be because you're not intended to mess with it [07:54] you can say that this is of challange from a friend [07:55] i have to decrypt and tell him that what was a script [07:55] ok, then it's up to you to figure it out :) [07:55] this isn't an ubuntu issue, sorry. [07:56] how can I get my CA authority to get back to me in a timely manner? [07:56] then which channel would help me ? [07:58] https://github.com/yanncam/UnSHc [07:58] tgfgit [07:59] thanks SmokinGrunts [07:59] ye [08:03] ducasse, i found solution, i had to disable dropbox at startup, then add a new entry like you said [08:04] ducasse, if i dont disable the default dropbox app in startup window, it doesnt work [08:06] EndlessMacro: you'll only need that entry, correct. [08:30] how hard it is to decrypt oppenssl encrypted file without password ? [08:30] i'm trying to boot ubuntu, but it's stuck at "A start job is running for Login to default ISCSI targets (7min 51s / no limit)" [08:30] and that is still counting [08:30] how can i stop that? [08:30] and that "no limit" is just completely and utterly stupid [08:31] cool_dude: impossible [08:31] why [08:31] i have very powerful gpu [08:31]