| Bashing-om | daftykins: You still with a presence ? | 02:11 |
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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:37 |
| lotuspsychje | !15.10 | 05:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 28th, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and https://ubottu.com/y/wily | 05:47 |
| EriC^^ | morning lotuspsychje | 06:46 |
| lotuspsychje | morning EriC^^ ! | 06:47 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:02 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader | 07:05 |
| lotuspsychje | almost weekend! | 07:05 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje | 07:05 |
| lordievader | Indeed 😄 | 07:06 |
| jink | Helemaal niet, morgenochtend release, dus moet gewoon werken... -__- | 07:06 |
| jink | Anyway, what's up? :D | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | hey kid | 07:07 |
| jink | Heh. | 07:07 |
| jink | I'm someone's kid, obviously, but I'm oooooooooooold. :P | 07:08 |
| lotuspsychje | im also the sun of my father | 07:09 |
| lotuspsychje | what a coinsidince | 07:09 |
| lordievader | The sun!? Wow O.o | 07:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:10 |
| jink | That, too! | 07:10 |
| jink | The sun in his life! | 07:10 |
| ducasse | good morning, everyone | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | morning ducasse | 07:57 |
| ducasse | hi lotuspsychje - how's life? :) | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | great on this side | 08:00 |
| lotuspsychje | chilling in my holiday :p | 08:00 |
| jink | :P | 08:19 |
| lotuspsychje | !info lynis | EriC^^ try this? | 08:31 |
| ubot5 | EriC^^ try this?: lynis (source: lynis): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1 (artful), package size 174 kB, installed size 1323 kB | 08:31 |
| EriC^^ | thanks trying | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | gives you full overview of system | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: this can do alot also: https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads | 08:33 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 08:34 |
| lordievader | Hmm, interesting. Lets run it :) | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | pretty organized package :p | 08:35 |
| ducasse | that last one is also in the repos, in case you didn't know | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: you know package name? | 08:38 |
| ducasse | phoronix-test-suite | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | cool tnx | 08:39 |
| ducasse | ;) | 08:39 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: hopefully going to buy new phone today, my old one died :-/ | 08:44 |
| lordievader | Interesting sugestions lynsis makes. | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: cool mate, decided wich one yet? | 08:45 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: nice lil package isnt it :p | 08:46 |
| lordievader | Too bad the newest is not yet in the portage tree -.- | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | by the way, anyone knows howto change color of android 7 call background? | 08:47 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: looking at a cheap moto right now | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | it changed to brown background after update to 7 | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | moto g5+ and moto e4 sounds like best deals on coolblue | 08:50 |
| ducasse | the one i'm looking at is just listed as 'motorola moto e (iron grey)' | 08:53 |
| ducasse | android 7.1, 8mp camera - trying to find out if it has microsd slot | 08:54 |
| ducasse | ok, good, it has one | 08:56 |
| EriC^^ | dang, phoronix needs php5 | 09:02 |
| EriC^^ | !info php5-cli trusty | 09:03 |
| ubot5 | php5-cli (source: php5): command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.22 (trusty), package size 2093 kB, installed size 8881 kB | 09:03 |
| EriC^^ | oh, there's a repo version of it | 09:04 |
| lotuspsychje | !info phoronix-test-suite | 09:06 |
| ubot5 | phoronix-test-suite (source: phoronix-test-suite): comprehensive testing and benchmarking platform. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.2.1-1ubuntu2 (artful), package size 381 kB, installed size 2634 kB | 09:06 |
| lotuspsychje | webversion is 7.4 | 09:06 |
| EriC^^ | hmm it's just hanging after selecting "run a test" | 09:07 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 09:09 |
| EriC^^ | im trying the "complex system test" now, it's installing stuff from the web, letting it run :D | 09:09 |
| lotuspsychje | should give you numbers for testing right | 09:09 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYJmYQ0AGw | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | true story, looks cool | 09:39 |
| EriC^^ | i made some mexican food the other day | 09:56 |
| EriC^^ | it turned out really well, got some "refried beans" from the supermarket and they had already made tortilla and burrito bread | 09:57 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:49 |
| EriC^^ | hey BluesKaj | 10:51 |
| BluesKaj | Hi EriC^^ | 10:54 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 14:12 |
| nicomachus | nacc TJ-: this is the script. literally could not be simpler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25880072/ | 15:06 |
| nicomachus | just an exercise in scripting because I need more practtice. working on ways to expand and complicate it. | 15:06 |
| nicomachus | probably going to add a while loop for the update. | 15:07 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: you might want to conside "xdg-open <URL>" instead of hard-coding 'firefox' - assuming firefox will be the default web-browser | 15:13 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: what kind of difference does that make? | 15:13 |
| nicomachus | using 'firefox' will guarantee me a fresh window with those URLs. wouldn't xdg-open just add to the current session if there is one? | 15:14 |
| TJ- | it'll behave the same way; unless you use "firefox --new-instance" or "firefox --no-remote" just "firefox" will open in an existing firefox process | 15:16 |
| nicomachus | default for firefox is a new session, unless you specify --new-tab or something like that | 15:17 |
| nicomachus | errr... maybe not. | 15:17 |
| TJ- | I've never experienced that behaviour; it always re-uses an existing process unless those flags are use. That's archive firefox, firefox-dev and firefox-nightly | 15:18 |
| nacc | it doesn't seem smart to rely o 'default' behavior | 15:18 |
| nacc | if you can specify flags | 15:18 |
| nicomachus | I see. | 15:19 |
| nacc | defaults change and also probably can be controlled by the user's config | 15:20 |
| nicomachus | well, idk how I did it, but I did not do this while loop correctly. | 15:29 |
| nicomachus | while [ sudo apt -qq update ]; do echo "Good Morning! Checking for updates...."; done | 15:30 |
| nicomachus | should be it, right? | 15:30 |
| nacc | nicomachus: you should re-read how bash while loops work | 15:31 |
| nicomachus | ok. | 15:32 |
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| EriC^^ | evening all | 22:09 |
| oerheks | hi eric, going to watch "Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome" .. not firefox | 22:10 |
| EriC^^ | hehe | 22:11 |
| EriC^^ | hi oerheks | 22:11 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: \o | 22:11 |
| EriC^^ | hey Bashing-om o/ | 22:11 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Slow Friday ... all over :) | 22:12 |
| EriC^^ | yup | 22:14 |
| oerheks | ..and .. back | 22:18 |
| oerheks | terrible movie, bad camerawork, stupid conversations | 22:18 |
| Bashing-om | oerheks: and back here to the real world :) | 22:19 |
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| ChileStuff | boo | 22:51 |
| ChileStuff | Anyone alive | 22:52 |
| nacc | ChileStuff: yes, although it's a bit late on a Friday | 22:52 |
| ChileStuff | Depends on yer time zone :P | 22:52 |
| ChileStuff | jac76 go to -discuss | 22:53 |
| ChileStuff | oops | 22:54 |
| ChileStuff | Greetings old fart :) | 22:55 |
| jac76 | greetings to a fellow old stinking bag of wind. | 22:56 |
| ChileStuff | LOL ... that's cuz my parts are rotten | 22:56 |
| ChileStuff | I remember working on the old telex machines ... power supply caps the size of 2 paint cans stacked | 22:57 |
| jac76 | I recently took my grand daughter to a playground and got carried away and fell on my face, I don't bounce up as quickly as I use to. Some other child there, about 8, shouted to another to "look out for the old guy". :-( | 22:58 |
| ChileStuff | back even before 1.44 floppys :) | 22:58 |
| ChileStuff | LOL | 22:59 |
| jac76 | The original "floppies" were 8 inches in diameter and were actually floppy. | 22:59 |
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| ChileStuff | Well at least I didn't use punch cards ... seen em, but didn't use em | 23:00 |
| TJ- | made great brims for a fedora | 23:00 |
| ChileStuff | heh | 23:00 |
| jac76 | I worked on card punch sorters. and fixed a couple of teletypes in my day. | 23:01 |
| ChileStuff | I still have a stack of old ST-225s ... open em up and make clocks out of em | 23:01 |
| ChileStuff | Had to get out when tech advanced faster than I aged | 23:02 |
| jac76 | though I'll have to say that the card sorter was the last of it's kind and not the big monsters that IBM made famous. | 23:02 |
| jac76 | I left the hardware side of the house when the "mechanical" part of it disappeared and I began to feel like the maytag repairman. I went to the software side of things then and supported an unix os based on BSD. | 23:04 |
| ChileStuff | So anyone here got any advice for a linux newbie? (I mean so new, I don't even know what Gnome is) | 23:05 |
| ChileStuff | I got out of hardware and started making hot sauce for a living :P | 23:05 |
| nacc | ChileStuff: nice! | 23:05 |
| nacc | ChileStuff: anything i'd recognize? | 23:05 |
| ChileStuff | I was never any good at software | 23:06 |
| nacc | ChileStuff: what kind of advice are you looking for? | 23:06 |
| ChileStuff | chilestuff.com | 23:06 |
| ChileStuff | Any ... I have never ised anything but winblows | 23:06 |
| ChileStuff | But I'm ready to try | 23:06 |
| jac76 | I fairly new to the Linux side of things myself but have been playing at it for a while. What's your question? | 23:07 |
| ChileStuff | provided it's not command line .. my typing is not good :P | 23:07 |
| TJ- | ChileStuff: the first thing to realise is that "Linux" is the kernel. But we also use it as a shorthand for GNU/Linux (the combination of kernel and userspace services and tools) and that it is a terminal (command-line) based system. On top we have GUI's which usually combine a 'display manager' (DM) - display the log-in greeter - and a Desktop Environment (DE) - the GUI you work with. Gnome is one | 23:07 |
| TJ- | such DE | 23:07 |
| ChileStuff | Thank you | 23:08 |
| ChileStuff | My first new thing today :) | 23:08 |
| TJ- | Another major DE is KDE (using the Qt toolkit) - Gnome uses the Gnome Toolkit - GTK | 23:08 |
| nacc | ChileStuff: nice! I'll take a look -- always on the lookout for new sauces :) | 23:08 |
| TJ- | But we have lots of other DEs, some look more like Apple Mac, others look more like Windows XP or earlier | 23:08 |
| ChileStuff | I was told that the latest distro of Ubuntu was very user friendly | 23:08 |
| TJ- | !desktop | 23:09 |
| ubot5 | A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors | 23:09 |
| jac76 | I like the the clean display of xfce in xubuntu. | 23:09 |
| ChileStuff | Yeah, XP is what I'm used to ... windows 7 is bleh and 10 blows chunks | 23:09 |
| jac76 | xfce is a gnome thing. | 23:09 |
| ChileStuff | ACK! | 23:09 |
| ChileStuff | TMI too fast :) | 23:10 |
| Menzador | Correction: XFCE is a GTK+ thing | 23:10 |
| jac76 | each version has it on little nitch | 23:10 |
| ChileStuff | I downloaded 17 and palyed with it some, and it looks usable, just need an idea of what programs are best and so on | 23:11 |
| ChileStuff | Will it run windows programs, or do I need a OS specific version? | 23:12 |
| jac76 | Ah, that depends on what your trying to do. If you want to write letters, try LibreOffice suite. | 23:12 |
| ChileStuff | Like Quickbooks for one | 23:12 |
| ChileStuff | Or at least something I can import my QB data to | 23:13 |
| ChileStuff | And even more important, my games :) | 23:13 |
| TJ- | ChileStuff: there's a Windows Is Not an Emulator (WINE) layer that can run many Windows programs, but it can be patchy. The alternative is to create a Virtual Machine and install Windows in it, with the programs that absolutely need Windows | 23:13 |
| ChileStuff | Neverwinter Nights, Icewind Dale, etc | 23:13 |
| TJ- | !wine | 23:13 |
| ubot5 | WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 23:13 |
| jac76 | the LibreOffice suite has a spreadsheet thing, but I've never used it. | 23:14 |
| ChileStuff | Awsome | 23:14 |
| ChileStuff | You guys are full of info | 23:14 |
| ChileStuff | Or something :P | 23:14 |
| jac76 | I don't remember things as well as I use to so I like taking short notes on what I do and keep track of all that in a program call "baskets" | 23:15 |
| jac76 | "baskets" is roughly equivalent to MicroSoft "onenote" | 23:16 |
| kostkon | ChileStuff, Icewind Dale is on steam and it has a linux version | 23:16 |
| ChileStuff | Well, I need to slag my HD and reload everything, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to make the switch | 23:16 |
| ChileStuff | AFK | 23:18 |
| jac76 | ubuntu/linux has a nice tool called "rsync" that I use to keep a sort of running backup of my work disk. | 23:18 |
| jac76 | so I put 2 disks into my system and "rsync" my user data to the second disk once a day. | 23:19 |
| jac76 | if I accidently delete something I can go to the backup disk and retrieve it if the "rsync" hasn't occured yet. | 23:20 |
| jac76 | but the "rsync" process tries to keep the two disks "matched" so if I don't catch the "deleation" before the "rsync" happens, the file is gone. | 23:21 |
| jac76 | as I said it a "sort of" backup. | 23:21 |
| jac76 | but if one disk fails I will have my information preserved on the other. | 23:22 |
| daftykins | hah yeah you are not gonna find a quickbooks import prog :P | 23:27 |
| ChileStuff | Yeah well I didn't really expect to :) | 23:42 |
| ChileStuff | My bookeeper is gonna love me | 23:43 |
| daftykins | you know they moved the service online though, so you can get at it via browsers? | 23:43 |
| ChileStuff | Yeah never gonna happen | 23:44 |
| daftykins | my clients complained it was a joke in the early days, but by now it has probably settled down - does mean adopting a subscription model though | 23:44 |
| ChileStuff | I don't "cloud anything | 23:44 |
| daftykins | ok | 23:44 |
| daftykins | i present the options, is all | 23:44 |
| ChileStuff | I appreciate that, I just can't get my head around putting private info on a public server | 23:45 |
| * ChileStuff envisions a troll like creature saying "I'll hold your money. Trust me" | 23:46 | |
| daftykins | ah so you've never used email, i take it? | 23:46 |
| daftykins | are you honestly still running XP, btw? | 23:46 |
| ChileStuff | I never transmit anything sensitive | 23:46 |
| ChileStuff | No, I have 7 on one and 10 on another | 23:47 |
| ChileStuff | Which is why I want to switch :) | 23:47 |
| daftykins | yeah i saw the dim opinions you have of them, puzzling | 23:47 |
| ChileStuff | But I may install xp on Ubuntu for games | 23:47 |
| ChileStuff | I have a dim opinion of all things MS | 23:48 |
| daftykins | that's unwise | 23:48 |
| daftykins | not to mention nonsensical :) | 23:48 |
| daftykins | VMing a Windows box to keep QuickBooks going might be the best option though | 23:49 |
| * ChileStuff has fond memories of the big BSOD reveal | 23:49 | |
| ChileStuff | Was that vista or 8 | 23:49 |
| ChileStuff | ? | 23:49 |
| daftykins | 95 if you're talking about the original press event demo, not sure how historic events apply to computing choices of today, however | 23:50 |
| jac76 | I remember MS coming out with Windows NT and all the problems they ran into trying to scale up their 16-bit OS to a 32-bit one and all the problems and mistakes they made, like the "ping of death" they created. | 23:50 |
| ChileStuff | It doesn't, but I loved the look on Gates' face | 23:50 |
| daftykins | ping of death was a dial-up modem buffer concept o0 | 23:51 |
| jac76 | no.... "ping of death" was MS failing to put a limit to the size of a "ping" packet. Which had the effect of letting a "ping" overwrite important parts of th OS, thus crashing that OS. | 23:52 |
| ChileStuff | Well, life beacons | 23:52 |
| ChileStuff | Thanks for the advice, I will return | 23:53 |
| daftykins | i'd prefer not, but ok | 23:53 |
| jac76 | You could send an over sized "ping" packet to anything, even a network attached printer, and crash it. | 23:54 |
| daftykins | whatever you say | 23:55 |
| jac76 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_of_death | 23:56 |
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