| FManTropyx | yo | 07:45 |
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| FManTropyx | I'm thinking of setting up a new VPS, but I started to wonder if I should wait 5 months so that I can get it started straight with fresh 18.04 | 07:46 |
| FManTropyx | I know upgrading works, did it from 14.04 to 16.04, but still... | 07:46 |
| FManTropyx | the spiders crawling through my file server are endless - I thought that they would get satisfied at some point that they have the whole picture :P | 08:49 |
| FManTropyx | is there some tool that lets me cut through all the noise in Apache's access log to filter in just actual user downloads? | 08:50 |
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| gunix | guys | 13:16 |
| gunix | i always get annoyed by the weekly kernel updates on ubuntu | 13:17 |
| gunix | anyway to get kernel updates to be less frequent, debian/centos style, once every 2 months? | 13:17 |
| rbasak | gunix: you don't *have* to update. | 13:51 |
| rbasak | You could watch the USNs and make individual decisions on security updates. | 13:51 |
| gunix | rbasak: is there a way to check if the kernel update is security or not? | 13:51 |
| gunix | can't apt just say "dude, this is security related, do the update" | 13:52 |
| gunix | ? | 13:52 |
| rbasak | https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/ | 13:52 |
| rbasak | You could add an apt pin to lower the priority of non-security updates I think. | 13:52 |
| rbasak | apt does know the difference. | 13:52 |
| rbasak | But I suspect you may find that virtually every kernel update includes security updates, eg. for drivers you aren't using. | 13:53 |
| rbasak | There's also https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch | 13:54 |
| tomreyn | ...or drivers you ARE using | 15:12 |
| tomreyn | gunix: which part annoys you about it? a prompt to install updates, the bandwidth being used during the download, the prompt to reboot after the update succeeded? | 15:13 |
| tomreyn | oh we'Re talking server here, so no such prompts, i guess. then what is the issue? | 15:14 |
| gunix | tomreyn: the fact that i always have to reboot the server to stay up to date | 15:14 |
| gunix | you have to reboot redhat/debian every 2 months, but ubuntu every week | 15:14 |
| gunix | think about that when running an openstack infrasrtucture | 15:14 |
| gunix | reboot every node once a week | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | gunix: well as said before, you don't have to reboot | 15:15 |
| gunix | yea but security update of kernel won't be applied until you reboot | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | but if the other distros only ship kernel security updates less frequently it means they are doing a worse job | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | livepatch was also suggested | 15:15 |
| gunix | livepatch is risky | 15:15 |
| gunix | can break the system | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | not rebooting for security updates is also risky | 15:16 |
| tomreyn | how can it "break the system"? | 15:16 |
| tomreyn | if you compare it to other distros which make kernel security patches available less frequently, you really need to see it this way: ubuntu provides you an opportunity (but does not at all require) to have a shorter time-to-patch, i.e. you can close security vulnerabilities faster and thus increase the systems' security overall. you can maker use of it, but you don't have to. | 15:18 |
| tomreyn | so comparing to the other distros, consider it a free add-on offer. | 15:19 |
| tomreyn | (or, if you care about security, consider ubuntu to do a better job than the others which did not provide those security patches in a timely manner, keeping your system at risk.) | 15:20 |
| tomreyn | if patching / maintenances interrupt your service, you should rethink your service architecture | 15:21 |
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| gunix | tomreyn: live migration of instances is not always the best for customers | 16:26 |
| disposable | i've uninstalled lxd (from xenial-backports) from my test xenial server and it left a sizeable /var/lib/lxd behind. when i try deleting it, i get "/var/lib/lxd/storage-pools/default/images...... Read-only filesystem" How do i get rid of this directory? i've already dpkg purged everything lxc/lxd related. | 16:31 |
| disposable | and i don't see anything relevant in /proc/mounts | 17:38 |
| tomreyn | gunix: yes, sometimes HA is | 17:54 |
| disposable | nevermind, lxd created those directories as btrfs subvolumes. | 18:12 |
| MartesZibellina | Hello! | 18:14 |
| MartesZibellina | I have a problem - my system doesn't recognise my network adapter, TL-WN721N, after the 1st reboot. | 18:15 |
| MartesZibellina | USB tethering with my phone doesn't work either. | 18:16 |
| oerheks | MartesZibellina, what does lsusb/lspci say about that wireless TL-WN721N? | 19:05 |
| MartesZibellina | It IS recognised, but the network manager says "Device not ready". | 19:26 |
| JanC | MartesZibellina: lsusb/lspci knowing its name doesn't mean there is a driver | 20:23 |
| JanC | seems like there are at least two different adapters with that name... | 20:26 |
| JanC | sorry, *five* | 20:26 |
| JanC | three with Atheros chips and two with Realtek chips | 20:27 |
| JanC | MartesZibellina: does it tell you what version it is? | 20:29 |
| JanC | or check what the USB ID is | 20:29 |
| JanC | the USB ID would look like "0cf3:9170" or "2357:0107" | 20:32 |
| JanC | the version would likely also be printed on the adapter itself (but might be hard to recognize as such) | 20:34 |
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