[00:29] <ji> >
[04:38] <qbsd> upgraded to 17.10 just a few minutes ago after ensuring the old 17.04 was all up-to-date. The KDEPIM comes up telling me to start akonadi. Click button to do so. All I now have is the much dreaded "Retrieving Folder Contents" and it just sits there
[04:38] <qbsd> anyone know how to get this to work again?
[04:41] <qbsd> Contact list shows my contacts, but all their information is gone. Akregator seems to work
[04:41] <qbsd> sigh
[04:54] <qbsd> Google account needed to be recreated. Now to clean up the rest of the mess. Theme is changed and fonts are not as I had set them
[06:06] <GizmoRomick> Hello, I'm new to freenode
[11:11] <smurfslover> Hello, anyone here who ever used Ktouch typing trainer on kubuntu?
[11:12] <smurfslover> After creating a profile i'm only left with the option to create custom lessons, i'm not able to use the built in lessons
[11:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[16:40] <CoJaBo> How do I stop the win key from bringing up the kde menu?
[16:48] <gentleguy> .
[16:52] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo, system settings>Input Devices>Advanced>Alt?Win key behavior
[16:54] <GizmoRomick> That's funny, i've always been trying to get the windows key to bring up the kde menu.  Since the win key is part of the key combination for other things, it doesn't seem to let me.
[17:31] <CoJaBo> BluesKaj: There's nothing checked there
[17:42] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo, you have to check it manually
[17:42] <CoJaBo> BluesKaj: check what?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> click the plus sign beside the alt/win box to open the tree , then look at the options available
[17:48] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo,^
[20:01] <ppx1> The aliens have landed and captured Donald Trumph
[20:01] <ikonia> and your comments are nothing to do with this channel
[20:02] <ppx1> they will capture you too
[20:02] <ikonia> please keep to the channels topic of kubuntu
[21:17] <kubunted> awful. new windows 95. linux has been officially dead.
[21:55] <Guest43444> wow kubuntu 17.10 is so fast
[22:14] <Guest43444> kubuntu 17.10 is cool thanks
[22:20] <valorie> Guest43444: thanks for telling us!
[22:20] <valorie> I'm finding it great as well
[22:29] <clivejo> Guest43444: what do you use your system for?
[22:32] <Guest43444> valorie why i am so stupid and used the old 16.04 LTS..
[22:33] <valorie> no no, there are valid reasons for using the LTS
[22:34] <valorie> when stability is your most important value, and you don't want to update all the time
[22:34] <Guest43444> clivejo for normal office and design works
[22:34] <valorie> me, I like living on the edge
[22:39] <Guest43444> inkscape, scribus, qcad...
[22:54] <kubunted> what a revolting piece of sh!t ... i want my windows 95 back... linux is dead has gone to absolute worthless unusab;lle sh!t
[22:55]  * clivejo yawns
[22:55] <Taggnostr4> hello
[22:55] <clivejo> hi Taggnostr4
[22:56] <Taggnostr4> htop says my ram is almost full and my swap is half used, but the system monitor says there's plenty of ram (and agrees on the swap being half used)
[22:56] <Taggnostr4> I did some research but can't figure out where the value reported by htop comes from
[22:56] <Taggnostr4> free -m also seems to agree with htop
[22:57] <Taggnostr4> I don't have anything using up all that memory, but the pc gets laggy at times
[22:57] <clivejo> what OS are you using?
[22:58] <Taggnostr4> kubuntu 17.10
[22:58] <clivejo> what does ksystemguard say?
[22:59] <Taggnostr4> the status bar at the bottom says Memory: 1.3 GiB / 15.2 GiB
[22:59] <Taggnostr4> the graph also is around 1.3GiB
[23:00] <Taggnostr4>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[23:00] <Taggnostr4> Mem:          15562       12660        1727          76        1174        2894
[23:00] <Taggnostr4> this is the output of free -m, it says 12.6/15.5 used, same as htop
[23:01] <Taggnostr4> the value reported by ksysguard seems about right, I just have a few programs open, so 1.3 is a reasonable value
[23:01] <Taggnostr4> but if that was true, why free and htop report a different value, why the swap is being used, and why the pc sometimes lags?
[23:04] <clivejo> if you go into ksysguard and sort the process list by memory
[23:04] <clivejo> should show you what is using the memory
[23:05] <Taggnostr4> yes, nothing suspicious there
[23:05] <Taggnostr4> and the same in htop
[23:05] <clivejo> weird
[23:06] <Taggnostr4> firefox is eating 800M, plasma 65M, krunner 40M
[23:06] <Taggnostr4> even the memory % in htop barely adds app to 10%
[23:07] <Taggnostr4> I also tried to show kernel threads in htop and nothing interesting came up
[23:08] <Taggnostr4> could something like the kernel use memory without being listed as a process in htop/ksysguard?
[23:08] <Taggnostr4> with 17.10 I'm having issues with the wifi kernel module, so I wonder if it's related (apparently the new version of the kernel fixed this, but it's not in the repos yet)
[23:10] <Taggnostr4> or maybe htop/free report virtual/shared memory whereas ksysguard doesn't?
[23:16] <clivejo> dunno, never seen that before
[23:17] <Taggnostr4> the lag I'm experiencing seems related to plasma
[23:17] <Taggnostr4> like alt+f1 or alt+f2 take a while to reply sometimes
[23:17] <clivejo> You seem to have plenty of memory
[23:18] <Taggnostr4> or while switching activities/desktop sometimes it gets "stuck" or the task bar at the bottom doesn't update and it becomes laggy
[23:18] <Taggnostr4> I found that running kwin restart fixes the problem
[23:19] <Taggnostr4> also the memory problem seems to appear after a while, like if there's something that slowly leaks memory until it fills it up, but the actual process is not visible
[23:31] <Guest43444> ok bye