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MarkB2bloop: I had the same problem using an NVidia 6200.  Every time there was an update re-creating initramfs, the driver would just lose its mind.00:00
MarkB2Kept crashing.00:00
MarkB2I did find a workaround.. but its ridiculous.00:00
bloopmarkus-k, what did you do00:03
mirakIs there a way to run a script after dpkg installed a particular package ?00:23
Frigid_Cryotankmirak: Like dpkg-reconfigure ?00:27
mirakFrigid_Cryotank, not really. I rather want that if a package is installed or reconfigured, then it starts a script00:28
miraksome script00:28
mirakI am looking if there is such a hook00:28
marqueziniGuysss!!!00:28
marquezinianybody online now?00:28
Frigid_CryotankI suppose you could do dpkg-query -l | grep package_name and count how many lines appear.  Run on that.  Something along those lines.00:29
Bashing-om!ask | marquezini00:29
ubottumarquezini: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:29
mirakFrigid_Cryotank, what for ?00:29
marqueziniim having a problem with a dell inspiron 5000 5254-D03P, the trackpad don't click with the click of the finger, only pressing down with force (click) how i can resolve thiss???? tanks man!!!00:29
mirakFrigid_Cryotank, that would still be manual00:30
mirakbut yes maybe a wrapper around dpkg command could do that, but that would be a bad hack00:30
marquezinifurthermore, the trackpad dont work touching only clicking down!!00:30
Frigid_Cryotankmirak: You mean you want the script to run after a dpkg install...Hm.  there is dpkg-trigger ..  did you try "man -k dpkg" ?00:31
mirakno00:31
oerheksmirak, write a script that watches apt log https://askubuntu.com/questions/203256/set-a-script-to-run-automatically-after-apt-get-dist-upgrade-install-remove-an00:33
mirakFrigid_Cryotank oerheks thanks I am looking into both00:33
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mirakFrigid_Cryotank oerheks I think one way would be to create a .deb that reacts to the installation of the package I need00:39
miraksimilar to what update-grub does when a kernel is installed00:39
mirakI am not sure ...00:39
Frigid_Cryotankmirak: if I had to set up something that would run when dpkg installed something... I might lay hands on the appropriate dpkg package and add that feature.00:42
Frigid_CryotankBut I'd add it in reverse.. so that the option would be something like --no-trigger instead of --trigger .00:42
oerheksnot sure it covers snap packages too00:44
Frigid_Cryotanksnap... is something else.00:44
Frigid_CryotankA firm I was working for was looking to use snappyland for a product. I pointed out that snappy images seemed to want to update themselves.00:45
Frigid_CryotankLast seen, there wasn't a way to turn that off that behavior.00:45
bazhangFrigid_Cryotank, try #snappy for snappy help00:46
Frigid_Cryotankbazhang: Thank you.00:46
bazhangnp00:46
jvavaI have two partitions, root and swap, 10g respectively, I want merge them into one root partition, how can I do, thanks01:02
dev0drpshello01:07
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Frigid_Cryotank<groan> There used to be manpages for the v4l2 driver.  I don't see 'em in apt-cache .  Any idea of where to find 'em ?01:51
timypyep02:05
CarlFKjvava: it depends - you can try: remove the swap partition, resize root to use the new space, see if it still boots, then try ... growfs I think it is called02:05
CarlFKall of this in "rescue mode"02:06
CarlFKyou don't want to mount root rw for any of this02:07
jvavathank you, others told me use gparted, is it easier and securer?02:08
jvavaCarlFK, can I make a backup for partitions?02:10
jvavaIm going to try, thank you very much02:10
CarlFKjvava: 'yes' but doing it right and restoring it right can be tricky.  I would clone the whole disk with http://clonezilla.org/02:11
Frigid_CryotankThe Intel Joule claims it has 16 GB mmic .. but it turns out to be more than that.. and using dd(1) to clone the mmic to a 16 GB SDHC card fails miserably [more].02:16
Frigid_CryotankI should write this up.  Every time I do it I'm amazed it works.  My boss looks at it, shakes his head and says, "Just make it work right."02:17
_r00k_I'm trying to get mysqld to run as a user other than mysql. I've changed it in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf (referenced in my.cnf), and modified /etc/init.d/mysql, but it still starts as user mysql. Is there a different place in Ubuntu to change that behavior?03:55
strive_r00k_: Interesting. Why would you want to have it run udner a different user?03:56
_r00k_strive: designing a demonstration.03:58
striveNice.04:01
superKillerhello, i have a question. I want the string 'ipython' to run 'ipython3' everytime i put it in the terminal and not have the message 'ipython is not installed....sudo apt install ipython' . Can i do this once and for all instead of doing alias ipython=ipython3 everytime ?04:04
_r00k_superKiller: you can either alias ipython to ipython3 in your .bashrc or .profile file, or you can ln -s /path/to/ipython3 /usr/local/bin/ipython04:06
superKiller_r00k_: works for me now. thanks! :)04:09
_r00k_superKiller: np :)04:10
cyberspectreHi #ubuntu. I have Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. When I connect to a bluetooth speaker, it doesn't appear in pavucontrol. Pulseaudio doesn't see it.04:37
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:31
NotLimhello05:34
lotuspsychjehey NotLim welcome05:34
lotuspsychjeNotLim: how can we help you?05:35
NotLimwell05:40
NotLimi don't need help05:41
NotLimand you?05:41
MegabyteDo you guys know how to use regexp?05:41
NotLimyes, i know05:41
NotLimactually, i'm working with some regexp, right now05:41
zhi just dipped my toes in the regexp water doing some freecodecamp exercise05:43
MegabyteNotLim, I have this file syntax:05:45
Megabyte32_1-31 Super Mario RPG05:45
MegabyteI need to delete everything that matches those numbers and that string05:45
MegabyteSo I need that generalized to:05:45
Megabyte**_*-** Super Mario RPG05:45
MegabyteHow can I delete everything that matches that?05:46
lotuspsychjeMegabyte: perhaps more a ##linux or #bash question?05:59
sdfgsdfghi ! suddenly my backspace and enter keys are not working ! although when i select a text with mouse and backspace, it works for some reason. And enter key types ^[[2~06:01
lotuspsychjesdfgsdfg: have the right keybaodr layout active?06:02
sdfgsdfgok tried tos seee with xev and after the first start turning on eand typing enter it gets stuck, types enter 29838 times and gets recognized as Insert after that06:03
sdfgsdfgthat makes sense but why would layout change... how do I change it back ?06:03
sdfgsdfgthis all started happening to my keyboard after i plugged in ethe mouse06:04
sdfgsdfgomg it works06:04
sdfgsdfgsuddenly06:04
lotuspsychje!yay06:04
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)06:04
sdfgsdfgI didnt do anything though06:05
sdfgsdfgmagic keyboard is magic indeed06:05
sdfgsdfgwow, I was damn close to depression. This keyboard is like my penis06:06
zhMegabyte, you're wanting to delete the files?06:06
Megabytezh, no06:06
MegabyteJust rename anything that matches that pattern06:07
lotuspsychjesdfgsdfg: please keep this channel familly friendly06:07
sdfgsdfgabsolutely06:07
sdfgsdfgthanks for help anyways guys cheers06:07
NotLimMegabyte06:07
MegabyteNotLim, yes?06:08
NotLimwait, i'm reading06:08
NotLimwhat you wrote06:08
NotLimso...06:08
NotLimyou want to delete... all those files06:08
MegabyteNotLim, NO06:09
NotLimdoes these files have extension?06:09
Megabyte<zh> Megabyte, you're wanting to delete the files?06:09
Megabyte<Megabyte> zh, no06:09
Megabyte<Megabyte> Just rename anything that matches that pattern06:09
NotLimok06:09
NotLimlet me see06:09
NotLim32_1-31 Super Mario RPG06:10
NotLimwithout extension?06:10
MegabyteNotLim, I want to remove all that pattern from the filename06:11
NotLimok06:11
NotLimlet me try06:11
MegabyteSo 32_1-31 Super Mario RPG - Welcome! Yo'ster Island!! becomes, for example, Welcome! Yo'ster Island!!06:11
NotLimalways with hyphen?06:12
MegabyteNo, just discard everything before the hyphen06:12
NotLimokay06:13
NotLim(thinking)06:13
GNUFnatikhow can I change the login screen from gnome to cinnamon at boot?06:15
NotLimtry this one06:22
NotLimfind . -type f -name '*-*'|while read -r LINEA; do echo -n "$LINEA -> "; echo $LINEA|awk -F'-' '{print $NF}'|sed s/"^\ "/""/;done06:22
NotLimwon't do a thing06:23
NotLimjust echo06:23
NotLimi'm just testing06:23
GNUFnatikdo you want the output it's ridiculously long06:24
NotLimMegabyte ?06:25
GNUFnatikit's actually cut off. so I can't get you the full one06:26
GNUFnatikMegabyte what?06:26
GNUFnatikI pretty new to IRC06:26
NotLimis some guy...06:26
MegabyteGNUFnatik, ???06:26
GNUFnatikYeahhhhhh06:26
NotLimasking for help with regexp06:26
NotLimMegabyte : did you try the testing?06:26
NotLimGNUFnatik... BTW: i've never used ubuntu with graphical interface06:27
NotLim:D06:27
MegabyteNotLim, Sorry... I just wanted a general regex syntax. But it seems there isn't one. I wanted to use it with Powershell.06:27
NotLimokay06:27
GNUFnatikNotLim really?06:27
NotLimreally06:27
NotLimMegabyte: i think you won't need a regexp... you can do it with the last hyphen06:28
GNUFnatikI mean I know terminal browsers exist but how do you watch a video, run steam, or even search through the list of all packages?06:29
MegabyteNotLim, It doesn't work with everything :/06:29
NotLim:\06:29
NotLimGNUFnatik: with another pc...06:30
NotLimlogin to ubuntu through ssh06:30
NotLim:D06:30
GNUFnatikhow do I make the text go green like you guys are doing when you tag me?06:30
NotLimwell06:30
NotLimthe text is not really green06:30
NotLimyour irc client is highlighting it06:31
GNUFnatikI know that, so when I type your names if you guys used the same IRC you would see green too?06:31
NotLimyeah06:31
NotLimdefault config06:31
NotLimprobably the green color can be changed06:32
NotLimHexChat06:32
NotLim3.6 GHz06:32
NotLimi don't know that client06:32
GNUFnatikwait how do you know the clock speed of my cpu?06:33
NotLimwhen i do a ctcp version06:33
NotLimyour irc client responds06:33
NotLimwith this:06:33
NotLimCTCP VERSION reply from GNUFnatik: HexChat 2.12.4 / Linux 4.13.0-16-generic [x86_64/3.59GHz/SMP]06:33
GNUFnatikI was thinking of using empathy but when I installed cinnamon-session it disappeared06:34
TJ-Megabyte: I missed your earlier context but for the example you gave this works: "rename 's/.*? - (.*)/\1/' * "06:36
cuddlesquidive been compiling my programs on one cuda gpu with cmake, but now i have to would anyone be so kind and assist me to compile my program with two architectures, ive tried cmake . -DCUDA=61,52 and ive tried cmake . -DCUDA=61, -DCUDA=5207:01
cuddlesquidthank you!07:01
cuddlesquid cmake . -DCUDA_ARCH=52, -DCUDA_ARCH=30 works07:28
Rockwoodi wanna uninstall my sublime from 16.04 server07:46
ReedK0how do you guys know where to install source code on ubuntu?07:52
ReedK0and how do you know it won't interfere with the stable release?07:52
GNUFnatikI mean you could compile it and leave it in /home under /home/Applications and start it manually07:56
ducasseReedK0: 1) we've learned by reading and doing - experience, and 2) we install it where it shouldn't interfere07:56
ducasseoh, 'where' - sorry, i read 'how'. too early. :)07:57
ReedK0yeah i'm just wondering where I should install source code.07:59
GNUFnatikWhy are you installing from source and what are you installing is important to know07:59
ReedK0GNUFnatik, I want to change the source code.08:00
ReedK0Like, for example, something that won't even matter like a tetris app.08:00
ReedK0to practice compiling and using it while also using git.08:01
GNUFnatikso it's not a part of the system.08:01
ducasseReedK0: of a program that is already packaged?08:01
ReedK0no, all 3rd-party stuff.08:01
ReedK0yeah, but I wonder if different languages, for example, go in different directories.  Like if I had a Java tetris and a C++ tetris.08:01
GNUFnatikis it already on git08:01
ducassewell, /usr/local is the 'traditional' place for system-wide stuff08:01
ReedK0what does system-wide mean?  It means all users?08:02
GNUFnatikAnd also in the menus08:02
GNUFnatikso yeah'08:02
ducassefor all users, yes08:02
ducasseit is already in your PATH etc by default08:03
ReedK0So I should go to /usr/local/tetris-Java-src ?08:03
ducasseReedK0: i put source under /usr/local/src, then let it install to /usr/local (binaries to /usr/local/bin etc)08:04
ducasseso /usr/local/src/tetris-Java for the source08:05
ReedK0and what about the stable release?08:05
ReedK0at /usr/local/stable/tetris-java ?08:05
ReedK0it doesn't feel cluttered?08:06
ducassewhat do you mean by 'stable' there - what were you talking about before?08:07
ducasseyou want two versions - one normal release and one for git snapshots?08:07
ReedK0like there's the src release, and then there's the stable release08:08
ReedK0the one people use when they don't want to hand-compile it.08:08
ReedK0yes, ducasse exactly08:08
alkisgFor example, it's /bin/ls for the "packaged" version while the "local" would go to /usr/local/bin/ls08:09
ducasseReedK0: what you call the source 'release' is just a snapshot - not a release08:10
TJ-ReedK0: I have a directory (file-system mount) /home/all/SourceCode/  ... for each project I create a sub-dir, so "mkdir /home/all/Sourcecode/tetris/" then inside that I extract the source-code packages, and do any "git clone <repo>" so I end up with ./tetris   ./tetris-1.0/ ./tetris-1.1/ and so on08:11
TJ-ReedK0: that way I can keep track of upstream and the different package versions in one place08:11
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ReedK0well, that sounds interesting and similar to the other method except its at home not local probably because you don't want other people to play with src code08:13
ducasseit's similar to how i do it, except i keep system-wide stuff (daemons etc) in /usr/local08:14
TJ-ReedK0: it's called /home/all/ because all users have access. I reserve /usr/local/ (another separate file-system) for built tools - I collect and work on LOTS of source-code packages08:15
TJ-ReedK0: my SourceCode file-system is currently close to 50GiB08:15
ducasseReedK0: it's really a matter of preference, what you're used to and what makes sense to you08:17
erle-Can I terminate the X part of Wayland (for testing purposes)?08:18
ducassei think the gnome stuff needs it running, unless i'm mistaken. try it and see :)08:20
niko1990Hello everyone08:28
alkisgHello08:28
niko1990I just ran into a really basic problem: I have a folder /media/mainfolder with owner user1:user1 and 770. And in this folder is another folder /media/mainfolder/special with owner user1:user1 and 777. So I can't access with user2 the mainfolder - what is correct, but I also can't access the special folder. Is this normal, that you need to have at least r+x permissions in the parent folder to access the subfolder?08:33
GNUFnatikTJ: that's a lot of source code08:34
GNUFnatikhow do I check if trim is enabled?08:38
TJ-GNUFnatik: "grep discard /proc/mounts"08:39
TJ-niko1990: "chmod o+x /media/mainfolder"08:40
TJ-niko1990: the directory needs 'traverse' permission for 'others' in order for user2 to get to 'special'08:40
niko1990TJ-: Thank you, I already guessed that this is a normal function =)08:42
TJ-niko1990: for directories the 'x' permission means 'traverse'08:42
GNUFnatikTJ: There's no output. Is that manual trimming?08:43
TJ-GNUFnatik: it means none of the file-system have it enabled in /etc/fstab08:43
niko1990TJ-: ahhh, now I really got it =) Yes, that makes sence :)08:43
GNUFnatikTJ: So I've been running without trim the whole time?08:43
ducasseGNUFnatik: there's a cron job that runs it, as well08:44
TJ-GNUFnatik: possibly. see "man 5 fstab" and "man 8 mount"08:44
ducasseGNUFnatik: /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim08:44
GNUFnatikducasse: fstrim is true08:50
GNUFnatikrelief08:50
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lesshasteI want to install a package but it has two options, one for qt 4 and one for qt 5 . how do I tell which one I need? I am in ubuntu 16.0409:05
TJ-lesshaste: which package?09:08
lesshasteTJ-, https://www.texstudio.org/09:08
lesshasteTJ-,  if you click on download you see the versions09:08
TJ-!info texstudio xenial09:09
ubottutexstudio (source: texstudio): LaTeX Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.8+debian-1 (xenial), package size 5371 kB, installed size 12697 kB09:09
lesshasteTJ-,  that's too old sadlyu09:09
lesshasteI want version 2.12.x09:09
TJ-lesshaste: the package in the Ubuntu archives depends on qt5 so I'd guess you want the QT5 version09:09
lesshastethanks!09:09
TJ-lesshaste: you can determine that with "apt-cache depends tuxstudio | grep ^Depends"09:10
TJ-oops, bad typing: it's "  apt-cache depends texstudio | grep '^  Depends:'  "09:10
TJ-!info texstudio artful | lesshaste 2.11 is in 17.10 artful09:12
ubottulesshaste 2.11 is in 17.10 artful: texstudio (source: texstudio): LaTeX Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.11.2+debian-1build1 (artful), package size 5327 kB, installed size 12748 kB09:12
HcsOmothi10:12
varaindemianHi, I cannot unrar some files on ubuntu 17.1010:21
varaindemianbest program to use for archives in general and .rar in my case?10:22
doug16kindicator-multiload was working fine for a while. since a recent upgrade, instead of showing the stuff in the top bar it only says "im" in the top bar :(10:22
doug16kgnome has broken a lot for me10:24
doug16keverything I do has been broken in one way or another: I can't press the option key when remote controlling mac clients in teamviewer, keyboard shortcuts are broken in qtcreator, indicator-multiload doesn't show anything anymore, tf2 doesn't go into fullscreen properly after alt-tabbing, okular has no pull down menus at all, skype has to be restarted every day to receive calls10:29
cuddlesquiddoug16k, sounds like a very good time for consult our friend mr Format :)10:33
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cuddlesquidvaraindemian, https://www.kjbweb.net/install-rar-unrar-ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial/ it may not be the best option, but its all i got for you10:35
alkisg!unrar10:45
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:45
cuddlesquid:)10:46
cuddlesquidxpra or tmux?11:00
cuddlesquidor screen11:00
cuddlesquidscreen i just had a small issue with detatch... i held D for too long and it actually terminated my process11:00
wtigerHi!11:06
wtigerhow do I resize my ubuntu root partition?11:07
wtiger(from the command line)?11:07
ikoniawtiger: you cant resize it while it's in use11:07
ikoniawtiger: you need to use external media11:07
wtigerikonia: oh11:08
BluesKaj'Morning all11:16
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nbusroneanyone know how to set bash history to unlimited line ? the default is 500 lines ?11:35
brainwashnbusrone: you can change HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in your ~/.bashrc11:38
nbusronebrainwash : The default size is HISTSIZE=1000 HISTFILESIZE=2000 .What number I should set ?11:38
brainwashprobably big ones if you want "unlimited" lines11:39
nbusronebrainwash : HISTSIZE=-1 HISTFILESIZE=-1 or HISTSIZE=100000 HISTFILESIZE=20000011:40
brainwashbest to read the bash man page11:41
brainwashif -1 is accepted, then that's what you probably want11:42
cuddlesquidwould anyone be so kind and help me minimize entire sesion of tmux, i have created some windows and a session, but would like to minimize session11:43
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lotuspsychjecuddlesquid: perhaps the #tmux guys know that?11:46
cuddlesquidOk11:47
brainwashand girls11:47
vixxo'morning, I have an ebook reader that I used to mount as a usb drive: on ubuntu 17.10 when I mount It I have permissions just to access files and not to edit/add/remove them. Any suggestion ?11:50
doug16kunlimited is insanity. as if you would want a billion lines of scrollback11:56
doug16khow many gigs would that be? hint: too many11:57
brainwashuntil you run out of disk space11:58
brainwashone could tell bash to filter duplicated entries though11:58
lotuspsychjevixxo: what does tail -f /var/log/syslog say when you plugin your reader12:03
cuddlesquidthank you lotuspsychje12:06
nhaeslerHow do I change my wifi frequency from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on 17.10? It seems like the new Gnome settings app is missing the option to select the frequency.12:07
lotuspsychjecuddlesquid: did you fix it?12:07
cuddlesquidlotuspsychje, I did tmux channel helped, thank you very much :)))12:08
lotuspsychje!yay | cuddlesquid12:08
ubottucuddlesquid: Glad you made it! :-)12:08
cuddlesquidlotuspsychje, by default to detach safely from tmux ctrl+b then d12:08
cuddlesquidnice :)12:08
lotuspsychjenhaesler: cant you change frequency on your router page?12:10
TJ-nhandler: generally, the wifi client will be scanning both frequency bands, the allowed channels being set by the CRDA region setting12:11
TJ-nhaesler: : generally, the wifi client will be scanning both frequency bands, the allowed channels being set by the CRDA region setting12:11
vixxolotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/190qGcXd12:13
nhaeslerTJ-: I believe it does, but it still chooses the 2.4 GHZ frequency. In the old wifi settings, you could select a preference for 2.4 or 5 GHZ. But that option seems to be missing now.12:14
lotuspsychjevixxo: perhaps related to uid=1000 not sure, did you try on another user?12:15
vixxolotuspsychje, nope12:16
TJ-nhaesler: hmmm, not sure, that should all be controlled via network-manager12:18
lotuspsychjenhaesler: updated or clean installed 17.10?12:22
lotuspsychjenhaesler: driver of your wifi chipset installed correctly?12:23
lotuspsychjevixxo: can you try another user/guest to see what it does?12:23
nhaeslerlotuspsychje: I updated from 17.04. Drivers are installed, all networks work fine (except for some 2.4 GHz networks constantly disconnecting). I can connect to 5 GHz-only networks. It's just that I cant't choose a preference on networks that offer both frequencies.12:25
lotuspsychjenhaesler: whats your chipset & driver plz?12:26
lotuspsychjenhaesler: sudo lshw -C network to find out12:26
cuddlesquid!pastebin12:27
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:27
vixxolotuspsychje, same issue12:27
lotuspsychjenhaesler: the way i see it, router should broadcast both ssid's 2,4 & 5ghz and ubuntu should be able to connect both right12:27
lotuspsychjevixxo: how about gksu nautilus as a test12:28
lotuspsychjeafternoon MonkeyDust12:28
nhaeslerHere's the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25894484/12:29
lotuspsychjevixxo: can you format that ebook reader or is it fixxed?12:29
vixxolotuspsychje, tried to access with nautilus as root but can't edit, delete or create folders12:29
lotuspsychjevixxo: thats weird indeed12:30
vixxolotuspsychje, i would like not to format, strange is that on Trisquel it works without problems12:30
lotuspsychjevixxo: perhaps related to 17.10 not allowing GUI root12:30
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  good afternoon12:31
lotuspsychjenhaesler: looks good, you might wanna look on a tail -f /var/log/syslog to see why it doesnt asociate the 2,412:31
lotuspsychjehey ioria12:32
iorialotuspsychje, hi12:32
lotuspsychjeioria: <vixxo> 'morning, I have an ebook reader that I used to mount as a usb drive: on ubuntu 17.10 when I mount It I have permissions just to access files and not to edit/add/remove them. Any suggestion ?12:33
iorialotuspsychje, permissions ? :þ12:34
nhaeslerlotuspsychje: Well it does associate the 2.4, but it loses connection a few times an hour (probably because there are too many 2.4 networks) My problem is, that I can't connect to the 5 GHz version of the network that's using the same ssid.12:36
guoqingdoes anyone use bootchart  at 17.1012:36
vixxoioria, I can check, don't know how :)12:36
lotuspsychjenhaesler: sounds like driver issue12:36
lotuspsychje!atheros | nhaesler12:37
ubottunhaesler: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:37
ioriavixxo, ls -lR /media/$USER12:37
vixxoioria, $ ls -lR /media/$USER /media/vale: total 012:38
ioriavixxo,  run 'mount' and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com12:39
nhaeslerlotuspsychje: I'll try looking trough that, thanks. But it worked with the same driver on 17.04. It seems like the option to choose the frequency is simply missing in the new gnome wifi config.12:39
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ioriavixxo,  press Paste, and give us the url12:40
vixxoioria, sure, give me a sec12:41
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Rockwoodcya12:46
vixxoioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25894652/12:46
forgonWhich version of physfs is part of Ubuntu 17.10 ?12:46
ioriavixxo, ls -lR /media/vale/   again please12:47
ioriavixxo, please, in the public channel, not in pvt12:52
vixxoioria, but there is the list of all my files12:53
ioriaok12:53
ioriavixxo, so you can read the files but cannot add or detete them  ?12:54
vixxoioria, exhactly12:54
vixxoioria, with Trisquel 7 I haven't this issue12:54
ioriavixxo, all the files are owned by you12:55
ioriavixxo, you have two devices plugged ?  sdb and sdc112:57
adrian_1908forgon: https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/libphysfs1 ?12:57
forgonadrian_1908: Thanks.12:58
adrian_1908np!12:58
ioriavixxo,  try to install exfat-fuse13:02
ilyaigpetrovI installed ubuntu server with encrypted partition, but password doesn't match. I reinstalled it and password doesn't match again.13:06
ioriailyaigpetrov, language issue  maybe13:07
ilyaigpetrovioria: password is in latin + international characters13:07
ilyaigpetrovenglish layout is used13:08
vixxoioria, the ebook reader has an internal memory plus an SDcard13:10
vixxoi try13:10
ioriailyaigpetrov, the only reason  i know is that; encryption password is set before setting keyboard locale13:11
vixxoioria, installed, is reboot needed ^?13:12
ioriavixxo, just plug  again the device and paste  dmesg | tail13:13
mastizadaI have strange problem after upgrade to ubuntu 17.10. When selecting text in some app (for example gnome-terminal) selection stops after 2 seconds13:20
alkisgvixxo: 2 weeks ago my sd card of my rasperry pi died. I could read all the files and I could not write anything to it, not even format it. So if everything fails, try again Trisquel, if it happens there too now, it might mean the stick has died.13:21
lotuspsychjemastizada: can you try the xorg session as a test?13:29
mastizadalotuspsychje: what do you mean by running xors session as a test?13:31
lotuspsychjemastizada: your on 17.10 wayland i presume, so try logging out and login into the xorg session13:32
mastizadalotuspsychje: checked using `loginctl show-session 95 -p Type`, Type=x1113:34
mastizadaLooks like problem with select is only in gnome-terminal and yakuake applications.13:35
vixxoalkisg, on trisquel all still works fine13:35
mastizadaAll others have problem with backspace, deletes only 1 or 2 characters when keeped pressed13:36
alkisgvixxo: compare the output of `cat /proc/mounts` on the two distros13:36
vixxoioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25895003/13:36
mastizada`org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.keyboard repeat` is true13:36
ioriavixxo, you have quite an answer13:37
ioriavixxo, Filesystem has been set read-only13:37
BluesKajalkisg, did you move / to a usb stick on the rpi?13:42
alkisgBlueking: sd card13:42
alkisgBlueking: I also tried with / to nfs rw, if you want to ask something...13:43
alkisgBluesKaj, sorry13:43
BluesKajyeah I had a sdcrad die after about 3 months so I decided to move the root dir to a usb hdd. That method saves the sdcard from too many writes and prolongs it's life if you just boot from it.13:44
BluesKajalkisg,  like so: http://magnatecha.com/using-a-usb-drive-as-os-root-on-a-raspberry-pi/13:46
alkisgBluesKaj: sure, though nfs/nbd is easier if you have a networked drive instead of a usb one (e.g. even some real pc or nas disk)13:47
alkisgIt's also possible to use mksquashfs in the sdcard, and use an overlay tmpfs over it, for speed + ro sd card13:48
vixxoioria, but why is this read-only on ubuntu and not on trisquel ?13:49
BluesKajalkisg, I have a simple usb connected spare hdd setup, works well ...no probs so far...."knocks on wood" "-)13:50
ioriavixxo, no idea, probably about the kernel in use; i suggest a fsck on that (or dosfsck)13:53
vixxoioria, what do you mean13:53
ioriavixxo, fsck = file system check13:54
lotuspsychjevixxo: might be worth testing it on a liveusb 17.10 as a test also13:56
lotuspsychjevixxo: you updated from 17.04 right?13:57
vixxolotuspsychje, no, fresh install14:04
lotuspsychjevixxo: hmm ok14:04
lotuspsychjevixxo: backup data on that card and format with gparted perhaps?14:06
vixxoioria, I'm using the default kernel :O14:17
Amichaineed help with joining an Ubuntu Xenial Desktop to a Microsoft Active Directory domain14:18
V7hey all ;)14:20
V7Could you please help me how to get current layout in Linux ?14:20
Mr_Cyclopslayout?14:20
V7I.e. "setxkbmap -query | grep layout" shows all layouts, but not current14:20
striveAmichai: I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of sites on that particular situation.14:21
V7This "setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{print $4}' | awk -F"+" '{print $2}'" shows only "us" even if enabled other layout14:21
V7Mr_Cyclops: Yup14:21
alkisgV7: do you mean programmatically? Wayland doesn't use xkb...14:21
Amichaistrive: I followed the guides. work on trusty, but on xenial won't cross domains14:22
V7alkisg: Okay ... then how to get current layout?14:22
V7Without xkb14:22
alkisgV7: from which language, shell?!14:22
V7yup14:22
alkisgHeh14:22
V7Shell or whatever14:22
alkisg try `dconf watch /` and change language14:22
V7I console14:22
V7In *14:22
alkisgWell, with C you could use the gnome calls for layout14:22
Amichaistrive: I can authenticate with my local domain, but any other it fails on wrong password14:22
striveAmichai: Samba?14:23
Amichaistrive: the sssd conf shows samba as the authenticator, but on xenial it shows adcli14:24
Amichaistrive: it seems to be a bug in sssd in xenial14:25
striveAmichai: Isn't sssd more complex?14:25
V7So ... anyone ?14:26
Ghost_562I recently updated to 17.10 and now my laptop hangs on shut down or reboot. anyone have any tips on what im looking for?14:26
Amichaistrive: can you point me to a working guide for xenial?14:26
striveGhost_562: Have you checked 'journalctl -b'?14:27
Ghost_562strive, no14:28
striveAmichai: So, you're just trying to connect Ubuntu to AD? I personally use Samba for this.14:29
Amichaistrive: it's an M$ domain14:29
Amichaistrive: how would I set up authentication>14:30
striveAmichai: https://www.tecmint.com/join-ubuntu-to-active-directory-domain-member-samba-winbind/14:30
* strive sips on coffee.14:31
Ghost_562lol14:31
strive?14:31
yorwoshi all , i am using a firewire sound card (firepro 610) and jack. in order to get the audio working i had to make a file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-no-jack.conf blacklisting firewire devices. now i'm trying to connect a firewire cam. when i jack freezes , if i unplug the cam jack wont start unless i reboot without the cam. im using a pci firewire card with 3 fw slots. any suggestions how to get both the cam and the sound working ?14:37
Rockwoodhello14:39
Rockwoodi am wanna enable sftp on my digital ocean server14:39
Rockwoodmy computer and server bith having same os14:40
striveRockwood: DO has some pretty good guides.14:41
striveRockwood: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-sftp-to-securely-transfer-files-with-a-remote-server14:41
Ghost_562seems to be kernal issue14:43
striveGhost_562: :(14:44
Ghost_562task kworker/u8:0:5 blocked for more than 120 secs14:44
Ghost_5624.13.0-16generic #19-Ubuntu14:45
L00P3XGoodEvening.. it happens often as I turn on the laptop and open up some browser. my laptop freezes coursour included and can't open a prompt window or do anything.. i just smashed my pc once by holding down the power button whit data loss on this machine! no errors at reboot don't know why this happens14:45
Ghost_562seems to be an issue. theres a bug listed online it seems like.14:45
Ghost_562L00P3X, can your laptop handle whatever youre trying to do?14:46
Rockwoodstrive thanks14:46
striveRockwood: Sure thing.14:46
L00P3XGhost_562, i think so.. dualcore 2gb schould be enought i think.. don't know why this happens14:47
striveL00P3X: Run 'dmesg -w' before opening firefox.14:48
striveL00P3X: Maybe it'll show messages here?14:48
L00P3Xstrive, i had a "[  636.770658] perf: interrupt took too long (2535 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 78000" befor opening.. the broeser do not give me errors any kind14:50
strivehm14:54
nadioHello I have created a swap file, not a partition and acticated this but for some reason ubuntu refuses to utilize it, anyone got any ideas what could be wrong ? I am trying to install an application that requires more ram then the system has but while doing this it refuse to use the swap file.14:57
striveL00P3X: Try 'tail -f' then open firefox.14:58
striveL00P3X: Woops, tail -f /var/log/syslog14:58
strivenadio: How did you activate it?15:01
nadiostrive: by this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-0415:01
strivenadio: Also, using swap space could potentially slow down your system further.15:01
nadiostrive: I know, but I need more memory temporarly, not planing to have it as permanent solution.15:02
Ghost_562exit15:03
striveWhat's 'swapon --show' display?15:03
nadioNAME      TYPE SIZE USED PRIO15:04
nadio/swapfile file   5G   0B   -115:04
L00P3Xstrive, got nothing on firefox and a kernel: ufw block over chromium.. i don't know what it could be15:04
nadiostrive: everything looks "alright" what I can read, but that is very limited in this situation.15:05
L00P3Xstrive, is there some "tail" or "dmesg" to run at boot on some txt to get something out as it happens? maybe i can get the error whitout searching around15:06
strivenadio: https://serverfault.com/questions/681240/forcing-a-user-to-use-swap-space-after-certain-memory-usage-using-limits-conf15:06
skinux_I need the right command(s) to get all my hardware and system info, such as to allow someone else to help me decide if my system should be able to handle the activities I do at once...15:06
skinux_Is uname with an argument the right command?15:06
cableguyhey team15:06
striveL00P3X: 'journalctl -b' will display logs recorded at boot.15:06
cableguyi compiled openssl on 16.0415:07
cableguybut its missing all the libssl.so files15:07
cableguyif i run /sbin/ldconfig -p15:07
striveskinux_: lspci -nn15:07
cableguyit shows libssl.so.1.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.115:07
cableguybut those files dont exist in that directory15:07
cableguywhere do i pull those files from15:08
nadiostrive: I know but humm in my case its like its ignoring swap...15:08
cableguythe libssl.so.1.1 and libssl.so.1.0.015:08
nadio3.25gb is the limit, I have 5gb in swap15:08
cableguybecause now not a single program is working15:08
cableguye.g. php: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory15:08
cableguywhile `openssl version15:08
cableguyOpenSSL 1.0.2m  2 Nov 201715:08
cableguy`15:08
strivenadio: Maybe cgroups could help with forcing a process into using swap.15:09
L00P3Xstrive, no errors about that.. no crash or something.. will see you soon guys.. problem by side.. will save al my data and get a new os like lubuntu or something :)15:09
striveL00P3X15:10
striveL00P3X: I like to keep my installations very minimal.15:10
striveL00P3X: I usually download a 'server' version of Ubuntu and install al the things manually.15:10
strives/al/all15:10
L00P3Xstrive, should be done this way. i'm not able to do so. no one never explained my how.. and why to do so15:11
striveskinux_: 'uname -a' will display kernel version, usually a distro version and CPU architecture.15:11
ikoniaL00P3X: what is the spec of your machine15:11
ikoniawhat version of ubuntu are you running15:11
striveskinux_: You could also use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'.15:12
nadiostrive: I dont know what cgroups are ?15:13
striveskinux_: 'dmidecode -t 2' will display mobo info.15:13
L00P3Xikonia, 17.04 should be15:13
ikonianot 'should be' looking for 'is'15:14
strivenadio: 'cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness'; what's the value?15:14
nadiostrive: 1015:16
strivenadio: That's why.15:17
nadiostrive: ? what should I change it to ?15:17
strivenadio: The hgiher the number (up to 100), the more likely swap will be used.15:17
nadioah ok15:17
strive60 for now it seems.15:17
striveTry that.15:17
nadioplease give me a sec, to test it out.15:17
ikoniastrive: have you thought "it may not need to swap"15:17
strivenadio: Go for it.15:17
ikoniadon't change the swapiness to force it to sawap15:18
ikoniaswap15:18
ikoniathat seems silly,15:18
striveikonia: Yes, I thought nadio may just have enough RAM for that process, but nadio wants to test it.15:18
ikoniawhy though ?15:18
ikoniatrust the machine15:18
ikoniait will swap if it needs to15:18
striveikonia: Dunno. nadio's choice.15:18
striveikonia: I concur.15:18
nadiohumm tried all, 50, 60, 80, 100 and still get the same error message "ERROR: This machine must have at least 3.25 gigabytes of memory to install Microsoft(R) SQL Server(R).15:19
ikoniamicrosoft ?15:19
nadioikonia: I know... but not the right time for that.15:19
ikonianadio: it is the right time15:20
L00P3X17.04 it is.. but i've got to go.. i appreciated it.. see you again guis. have a good day15:20
ikoniahow are you trying to install SQL Server on linux15:20
nadioikonia: you pay me to like OSX and I will, but as I said wrong time.15:20
nadioor even 3.11 windows15:20
ikonianadio: it's not the wrong time15:20
ikonianadio: how are you trying to install Microsoft SQL server on linux15:20
nadioikonia: just by apt install15:20
ikoniaapt install, microsoft SQL server....15:21
ikoniafrom what repo15:21
nadiobut for some reason this doesnt seem to recognize the swap space at all.15:21
nadioikonia: microsoft own I think15:21
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ikonianadio: where are you getting this package, from what repo15:21
ikonianadio: you think ???15:21
ikonianadio: you must know where it is coming from, you have configured it15:21
nadioikonia: its from microsoft.com15:21
ikonianadio: show me how you configured the repo15:22
nadiostrive: got any ideas what I can try in this situation, ether the swap if wrongly setup or the package is causing more issues then I expected15:22
ikonianadio: answer the quetion so we can see the problem15:22
ikoniarather than just ignoring it and trying to get different help15:22
ikoniahow did you configure the repo15:23
ioriamssql-server, i guess ... from curl https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc15:23
nadioikonia: https://askubuntu.com/questions/850957/how-do-i-install-mssql-server-and-or-tools-for-linux-on-16-0415:23
nadiocurl https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc | apt-key add -15:23
striveI'm confuzzled.15:24
ikonianadio: and you're running ubuntu 16.04 ?15:24
ikonialets have a read of what you've done15:24
nadiothe source, not the docker.15:24
ikoniathe source ?15:24
ikonianot docket ??? what15:24
ikoniaooh, I see the instructions15:24
nadioikonia: yes latest and not long term service15:25
ikonianadio: the latest not long term serivce ?15:25
ikoniawhat ?? what version of ubuntu are you running15:25
nadioikonia: Release:        17.1015:26
nadioCodename:       artful15:26
ikoniaright15:26
nadiolatest not LTS15:26
ikoniaso the instructions say it MUST be on 16.0415:26
ikoniaand the repo only has xenial15:26
ikoniayou're using 17.10.....15:26
ikoniaso already a problem15:26
nadiook15:26
nadioikonia: I dont see how that affects the memory requirements15:28
nadioikonia: version difference are a b**** but not an issue always15:28
ikonianadio: it doesn't matter15:28
ikoniayou're mixing repos15:28
ikoniasoftware for the wrong version15:28
ikoniathis is not a supported option15:28
varaindemianI cannot install opera by double clicking the package. I am on 17.1015:28
ktechmidasnot a good idea unless you really know what you're doing15:28
varaindemiananyone can help pls?15:28
ktechmidasvaraindemian: have you tried installing it manually?15:29
nadioikonia: so you are saying I should downgrade to 16.04 ?15:29
ikonianadio: I'm saying you should run the correct OS for the correct package15:29
ktechmidasmaybe an error or something occurs... is it a .deb file?15:29
nadioktechmidas: .deb file yes15:30
varaindemianktechmidas, yes it's a deb file15:30
Rockwoodmy ubuntu having a strange problem of internet disconnection automatically15:31
ktechmidasvaraindemian: open a terminal, sudo to root, go to the deb file and run "dpkg -i file.deb" (replacing file.deb with the file, of course)15:31
nadiohttps://pastebin.com/gXnQQe4s15:31
nadiothe complete error message or installing mssql15:31
varaindemianI double click on it and it opensit in ubuntu software center then I click on install it stucks at 98% and then the install button is available again and opera is not installed15:31
Rockwoodhey pastebin means dustbin15:31
ikonianadio: it's not supported here15:31
ikonianadio: please let it go15:31
varaindemianktechmidas, it says dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'opera-stable_48.0.2685.52_amd64': No such file or directory15:31
ikonianadio: you also have your package database in an unclean state, so I'd advise fixing that also15:31
ktechmidasvaraindemian: which directory are you in right now?15:32
ktechmidasrun 'pwd'15:32
varaindemianktechmidas, Downloads15:32
ktechmidasvaraindemian: when you sudo, your directory may change...15:32
ktechmidasso are you sure?15:32
varaindemianyes15:33
varaindemianpwd gave me Downloads15:33
ktechmidasah15:33
ktechmidasalright try this15:33
ktechmidasdpkg -i opera<TAB>15:33
ktechmidasit should fill in the full filename15:33
varaindemianktechmidas, I used tab key to get the name when I tried sudo dpkg -i15:33
ktechmidaswhen I say <TAB> I mean press tab15:33
ktechmidasgood stuff15:34
ktechmidasthere's no .deb on the end though15:34
varaindemianhow....15:34
ktechmidasyou said above...15:34
varaindemianoh but I used the TAB key15:35
varaindemian..15:35
varaindemianit works now15:35
ktechmidas:) it's possible you have a few files15:35
ktechmidasif you hit tab a few times it'll show you15:35
ktechmidaswhich files they are15:36
varaindemianwhere can I paste the output/15:36
ktechmidasgist.github.com15:36
ktechmidasis a good one15:36
ctinoHi, today I've been testing with pxe boot. Target vm has Ubuntu 17.10 - Artful15:36
varaindemianktechmidas, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/279c812be215359cdca4d16fa639a97c15:37
ctinoFor some reason /etc/fstab stays empty15:37
ktechmidasvaraindemian: if you still have that terminal open15:37
ktechmidasjust run "sudo apt install -f"15:37
ktechmidasit *should* pull in all the dependencies15:37
ctinoAny idea why? It results in a read-only filesystem15:37
ktechmidasthen try to install opera again15:37
varaindemianktechmidas, so that's the problem.. dependencies15:38
varaindemianisn't -f not really recommended?15:38
ktechmidasit's not as bad as it was 15 years ago15:38
ktechmidasI promise15:38
ktechmidas-f is just to fix it15:39
ktechmidasit'll try to fix it automatically15:39
ktechmidasso you don't have to go hunting for the packages yourself15:39
varaindemianktechmidas, * kosmos890 (~km@176.92.48.175) has left15:40
varaindemian<varaindemian> ktechmidas, so that's the problem.. dependencies15:40
varaindemian<varaindemian> isn't -f not really recommended?15:40
varaindemian<ktechmidas> it's not as bad as it was 15 years ago15:40
varaindemian<ktechmidas> I promise15:40
varaindemian<ktechmidas> -f is just to fix it15:40
ktechmidasoops...15:42
c0untch0culais there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.15:43
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ctinoThe only line after a fresh install in /etc/fstab is: # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM15:47
amidehello15:52
pavlosctino: which ubuntu 17.10?16:04
Explorer999Hello, somehow when I installed ubuntu my windows dosent load anymore. I installed ubuntu alongside my windows but somehow something must have went wrong because now Im not able to boot up windows anymore from the ubuntu bootloader16:04
Explorer999can it be realted with that I have not been able to mount the windows partion properly or something?16:05
Explorer999and gparted dosent work on Ubuntu 17.1016:05
Explorer999any ideas of next steps?16:05
rawruwoops. I just asked in #debian. I hope I can do the same in ubuntu.16:06
rawruw!stretch sysvinit16:06
rawruwwant to downgrade from systemd to system v init16:06
auronandaceExplorer999: regarding gparted not working what you likely mean is it doesn't launch. this is a security feature of wayland preventing whole apps launching as root. it will launch if you boot into the session with xorg rather than the default wayland16:07
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Explorer999auronandace - Yes it dosent launch.16:09
hggdhyou will probably be able to start gparted as root if you 'xhost +si:localuser:root'16:09
Explorer999hggdh: Thanks alot that worked :)16:13
iseneAfter upgrading to 17.10, notify-send has stopped working (it simply hangs) when doing this in a terminal ' notify-send "Test" '  - is this a known issue?16:15
rawruw(not crossposting.. comparing distros..). If I mount an USB-device with ext3 and on it have a shell binary with +setuid and owner root.. and then run that program... Will I then get root access? :316:16
isenestrace hangs on this point: "poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000"16:17
iseneAnd this; "futex(0x7f9167c86288, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)"16:18
WitherSlickHey guys, I'm using Ubuntu budgie and really loving it, does it have it's own IRC Channel?16:20
auronandacerawruw: you can really downgrade from systemd to sysvinit on ubuntu16:21
auronandacecan't16:21
auronandacerawruw: 14.04 still uses upstart if you really wanted to avoid systemd but still use ubuntu16:21
BluesKajWitherSlick, there's #ubuntu-budgie, but only 20 users16:23
bcowanWitherSlick, most activity is on Gitter16:23
WitherSlicklmao wth is gitter16:23
bcowanWitherSlick, some off the wall messaging like thing from git..not very good imho16:24
WitherSlickThanks for linking me to the IRC Channel and telling me about gitter bcowan preciate it16:24
rawruwauronandace: how do I tell what ubuntu version Im running?16:28
rawruwah, there was a menu for that. But there's a command too :316:28
hggdhrawruw: lsb_release -r16:29
rawruwis setuid really a problem though? isn't that pre-configured to be protected against already?16:30
rawruwhggdh: is there a cross-distro command for that?16:30
hggdhrawruw: theoretically, lsb_release would be cross-distro...16:31
auronandacerawruw: this isn't a cross distro channel16:31
rawruwauronandace: how do you know that I wasn't checking whether ubuntu works equally well with what I was asking for?16:33
rawruwauronandace: dont' be so hasty with your prejudices16:33
auronandace!topic | rawruw16:34
ubotturawruw: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic16:34
rawruw!topic | auronandace16:34
ubottuauronandace: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic16:34
hggdhrawruw: enough, please16:34
_ppphello, anyone knows how can i capture a screenshot in VIDEO and have it automatically converted to a GIF file and uploaded to a site like imgur as a gif file?16:35
MarkB2Good morning.  I'm doing some coding work.. and have found a wonderful archive in /usr/share/doc .  Loaded dochelp .. but it seems unable to display files in that directory (or sub-directories).16:36
oerheks_ppp, shutter can do that, with a plugin https://askubuntu.com/questions/177921/whats-a-screenshot-application-which-will-auto-upload-to-imgur16:36
MarkB2What program allows viewing of those files?16:36
rawruwneed to reset passwords.. I've forgotten them all. root dir mounted. What do I do now? :p set the password field in shadow to an empty string?16:36
_pppoerheks, need a video not pic upload16:37
oerheksrawruw, stop crossposting, thanks16:37
explorer999I have installed Ubuntu alongside windows10. When im booting up I get started into the bootmanager of ubuntu and can choice etither to start ubuntu or windows. Unfortenetly something have happend to my windows because when I try to boot it it goes directly into recovery mode.16:37
explorer999any ideas of what to check?16:37
oerheks_ppp, ??? "s how can i capture a screenshot"16:37
_pppVideo16:38
rawruwoerheks: I'm comparing distros, not cross posting.16:38
oerheks_ppp, or do you want to make a gif of that video??16:38
oerheksrawruw, no, you are not.16:38
_pppyessss16:38
hggdhrawruw: if you ask the same thing in different channels, you *are* cross-posting16:38
tony1_ppp: ffmpeg can probably do what you want. google that16:39
_ppptony1, need that to be automated16:40
tony1put it in a script16:40
rawruwhggdh: "how do I say cat" in ##spanish is not the same question as the equivalent string in ##german, context matters.16:41
hggdhrawruw: still. You have just been called on tis on another channel. Please don't do it.16:41
oerheks_ppp, ffmpeg and imagemagic can do that, for automation you would need to write a script?16:42
Rockwoodcya16:43
explorer999Before I installed ubuntu I splided my SSD disc in 2 halfs. Then I installed ubuntu and choosed install alongside windows. But now Im not able to boot into windows. Something has happended.16:48
deiksHi guys, is there possibility to restore app when in tray by double click, currently just getting menu, where I need to click "open APP-NAME" (Ubuntu desktop 17.10) -- Thanks16:49
explorer999Any ideas on what to check? it weird everything seams ok in gparted also16:49
brainwashexplorer999: maybe refreshing the boot loader config can help16:50
oerheksexplorer999, maybe your windows is in uefi mode, and ubuntu not?16:50
oerheks!uefi16:50
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:50
explorer999Yes maybe so. I will check this abou the UEFI16:53
MarkB2Is there a viewer for the documentation located in /usr/share/doc ?  This is for Ubuntu 17.10 .16:54
lorddoskiashello, i hard-rebooted my machine and now when it boots my keyboard (apple keyboard) doesn't work and my resolution is really messed it's set to 896x something16:54
lorddoskiasi ran fsck and it didn't show fs corruption16:54
lorddoskiasif i boot from recovery mode to normal boot then my resolution is fine but i boot directly to ubuntu the output is garbled ?16:55
doug16klorddoskias, when you say "hard rebooted" you mean you cut power?16:55
lorddoskiasi pressed the power button on the machine16:56
doug16k:O16:56
doug16kdon't do that16:56
lorddoskiase.g. held it for a couple of seconds, since the machine wasn't responsive16:56
lorddoskiasdoug16k: yeah, in hindsight this was a really stupid decision .. .16:57
doug16kwhen you need to emergency override reboot, hold alt and press printscreen (keep holding alt...) SUB with a delay between each letter16:57
doug16kS = sync filesystem, U = unmount filesystems, B = force reboot16:57
lorddoskiasthe magic sysrq stuff16:58
lorddoskiasthe question is what can i do NOW to recover my machine without losing data16:58
lorddoskiasi use ext4 and so the fs should be consistent, no16:58
doug16kno16:58
doug16kby default write caching is enabled. if you pressed reset, sure. cut power, nope16:58
doug16klorddoskias, if you remove the # on the line "write_cache = off" in /etc/hdparm.conf, then yes, the risk is nearly zero (or zero, depending on your disk)17:01
lorddoskiasfunny a simple usb keyboard works, my apple one doesn't17:01
doug16kdisabling the write cache doesn't significantly impact performance17:02
doug16kwhen write cache = on, then you are telling the drive "tell me the write is finished when it makes it into your buffer". when write cache = off, then you are telling the drive "tell me the write is finished when it is on disk"17:02
lorddoskiasokay17:03
lorddoskiasbut i don't really care about that atm17:03
doug16kthe barriers will rely on that. if you pressed reset or magic sysrq, it would be okay17:03
lorddoskiasi just want to bring my machine in a bootable state17:03
doug16kI would boot from a live usb/cd and run fsck on everything as a first step17:04
lorddoskiasright, then17:05
cool_dudehow to know file type ?17:06
lorddoskiasdoug16k: is it normal that when i choose drop to root shell prompt17:06
lorddoskiasthen after like 5 minutes the machine seems to continue booting on its own17:07
tomreynMarkB2: you could use 'less'17:07
lorddoskiasi.e. i got osme logs from systemd that services have been started17:07
tomreynMarkB2: or any text viewer / editor of your choice17:07
doug16klorddoskias, are you sure the keyboard is plugged in all the way? sounds like it was just booting as it would if you didn't press anything17:07
MarkB2tomreyn: I'm staring at the SDL2 collection of documents with Firefox.  There is an index.html file.. and that's ..usually.. where to start.17:08
tomreynMarkB2: right, for html documentation a web browser sounds like the right choice17:08
MarkB2But the links in there only point back to the SDL2 internet webpage, not the pages stored locally.17:08
evgeniyHi all!17:09
evgeniyHelp me please. How I can disable suspend on lid close on my laptop? ubuntu 16.04 LXDE. https://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid  - I try that, but have no effect.17:09
MarkB2There doesn't seem to be a ..useful.. way to browse those docbook pages....17:09
doug16kcool_dude, use the "file" command. file some-filename-here17:09
tomreynMarkB2: if all links on the index.html doducment point back to the live web although there are other files in the doc package then i'd consider this a package bug.17:10
cool_dudegoogle helped me thanks for your comfort as well  :D17:11
cool_dudebut showing ‘data’17:13
cool_dudeonly17:13
cool_dudeno info :(17:13
ikoniaright, so thats the file type, data17:14
xorpadhey guys, how can I make x11vnc start when I log in(I have auto login) and restart when it closes? should I make a systemd service or is there a better way?17:14
xorpadI need to run it as my user not root, and I know not to open the port on my router it's just for local network use17:15
xorpadI know vnc isn't secure over internet but i'm using only over home wifi17:15
ikoniaxorpad: you can load it in a desktop session17:15
ikoniaxorpad: the "startup apps" type thing17:15
xorpadikonia, but it closes when you disconnect17:16
xorpadso it needs to restart every time it closes17:16
cool_dudehttps://prnt.sc/h6kaz317:16
xorpadthat way vnc server is always running17:16
ikoniacool_dude: what do you expect us to do with that ?17:16
ikoniacool_dude: when you disconnect, or when you log out17:16
ikoniacool_dude: oops, not you17:16
ikoniaxorpad: when you disconnect or log out17:17
xorpadikonia, either one17:17
ikoniaxorpad: they are both different behaviour, hence why I'm asking17:17
MarkB2tomreyn: I'd say it's a package bug, all right.  The index.html file has only references over the web while the directory and sub-dirs are full of the material I need.  <groan>17:17
xorpadit's a one-time session command meant for creating adhoc sessions on headless servers but it can also connect to your desktop x instance instead of a headless one17:17
ikoniaxorpad: what ?17:18
xorpadit's doesn't come configured to use as anything more that a one-shot connection17:18
ikoniaxorpad: I know what vnc is17:18
xorpadikonia, i mean x11vnc17:18
ikoniaxorpad: I'm trying to understand your usecase and understand if your problem is on disconnect or log out, as they are different behaviour17:18
xorpadthe tool17:18
ikoniaxorpad: right, I know what it is17:18
xorpadoh okay17:18
UsQUEanyone know of solution which clones your local folder to cloud drive and encrypts this data?  Kind offsite backup solution :)17:19
cool_dudeencrypts ?17:19
xorpadwell, my usecase is having vnc always running connected to my desktop x instance, and then I can use it to run a x session which I can use IDE on my compiling box, because x forwarding isn't fast enough17:19
ikoniaUsQUE: most of the cloud providers "cloud drives" do that17:19
xorpadvnc is very less latency than x forwarding17:19
ikoniaxorpad: I'm not intersted what you do in the vnc session17:19
xorpadikonia, you asked what my usecase was17:20
xorpadthat's why I said that17:20
ikoniaxorpad: I've asked 2 - 3 times, do you have the problem when you disconnect or log out, as they are both different events17:20
xorpadbasically I need something with more responsiveness and faster frame update rate than ssh x forwarding17:20
xorpadikonia, I answered both17:20
xorpadyou must have missed my answer17:20
ikoniaxorpad: logging out of the X11 session, or logging out of the remote desktop / vnc session17:21
UsQUEikonia, it encryptes to other but does it also encrypt the data so the provider himself can't read it? :)17:21
cool_dudexorpad17:21
xorpadikonia, of the vnc session17:21
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ikoniaxorpad: what does the logs on the remote host show happening to that session17:21
cool_dudewhy don’t you say what are try to archive you will possible get better solution17:21
xorpadikonia, when I disconnect or log out of vnc, x11vnc closes17:21
cool_dudexorpad ^^17:22
xorpadikonia, it shows it closes with return value 017:22
xorpadno error17:22
xorpadif i log out17:22
ikoniaxorpad: what about if you disconnect17:22
xorpadif I disconnect, it gives error value instrad of 017:22
ikoniaxorpad: what error value17:22
ikonia(or message)17:22
xorpadikonia, I don't know, want me to try it now and see?17:22
ikoniaxorpad: wouldn't hurt17:23
lorddoskiashello following a hard reboot when ubuntu boots my apple keyboard doesn't work and the graphics is using very small resolution, If however i boot into recovery mode and from there i choose to continue booting normally graphics works  as expected and my kbd is detected17:24
xorpadI'm gonna have to disconnect for a minute, when I use kill to kill the vnc session it sends a kill signal instead of terminating the process17:24
ikoniaxorpad: whoaa17:25
ikoniaxorpad: why are you killing it17:25
ikoniayou're not using disconnect ?17:25
xorpadikonia, I'm trying to see what error if I disconnect instead of log out17:25
ikoniaxorpad: yes, so why are you killing it17:25
xorpadbut i realized I can't kill the connection for a while because I'm pushing a massive git repo17:25
xorpadikonia, to trigger a disconnect without logout17:26
xorpadbut i realized I can't right now17:26
ikoniaxorpad: then just wait17:26
ikoniaxorpad: is there no "disconnect" option in the menu ?17:26
ikoniais if you kill it, it will die17:26
xorpadikonia, I'll check that now17:26
ikoniaas it will terminate the session and the server end will take the OOPS now17:26
xorpadis there a way to force kill to kill without sending a signal to terminate to the process?17:27
ikoniawhy are you trying to kill it ?17:27
ikoniayou should be disconnecting17:27
ikonianot killing17:27
xorpaddisconnecting closes without error, I already know/said that (not trying to be rude i'm thinkful you are helping)17:28
ikoniaxorpad: no, you said "logging out"17:28
ikonianot disconnecting17:28
ikoniathats why I asked you to clarify17:28
xorpaddiconnecting from the client is logging out17:29
__Myst__What's the difference between apt pgrade and apt full-upgrade17:29
xorpadit closes the session properly17:29
__Myst__?17:29
xorpadthere is no option to terminate the connection forcefully17:29
cool_dudeother then file command to get info about file17:29
ikoniaxorpad: no, thats "logging out" from the client17:29
xorpadunless I'm missing something17:29
ikoniaxorpad: you can disconnect the session, think of it as screen for X1117:29
ikoniaalthough your client is the trigger for it, so maybe the client is the issue ?17:30
xorpadmaybe it is17:30
xorpadI'm using tigervnc17:30
ikoniaTiger used to be ok for me, but I've not used it in a while17:30
hggdh__Myst__: upgrade will not remove installed packages. This means if an upgradable package requires removal of an already installed (other) package, then this operation will not be performed17:31
hggdh__Myst__: full-upgrade will do it.17:31
__Myst__hggdh: when might that be the case?17:31
xorpadit's fine, the problem is that x11vnc has never and i don't know if it supports, consecutive sessions17:31
xorpadso after one session the command must be issued again17:31
hggdh__Myst__: on kernelupgrades, for example17:31
ioriaxorpad, -forever -loop17:31
ikoniaxorpad: I've disconnected from X11vnc and reconnected in the past without issue17:31
xorpadscrew it, i should just do a systemd service17:31
ikoniaxorpad: I've never had the need for multiple users using it17:31
ikoniaxorpad: thats not the way to do it, more so if you want it to be tied to your user for auto login17:32
generichow can I setup multiple terminals on multiple screens?17:32
ioriaxorpad, x11vnc can be started  in different ways17:32
xorpadI do want it tied to my auto login user, but you can specify which user runs the command, I just need to make it wait until the desktop session starts17:32
xorpadioria, is there a way to start it so it alwasy reloads after logout/diconnect?17:33
ikoniaxorpad: desktop starting != user logged in fully17:33
ioriaxorpad, To set x11vnc to continually listen for connections, include the -forever option.17:33
xorpadikonia, but it means x11vnc can see the x server and connect to it, and that the netwowk will be up very soon, so it will achieve what I need17:34
ioriaxorpad, and -loop17:34
xorpadioria, okay thanks17:34
ioriaxorpad, ok17:34
xorpadI still need a systemd service to start it though... unless lxde has a better way to start it17:34
ioriaxorpad, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc17:35
xorpadthanks ioria for link17:35
ioriaxorpad, check also the systemd startup script17:35
genericI wanna setup multiple screens without xorg17:35
ioriaxorpad,  and tiger it's no more in the repos17:36
xorpadgeneric, You need a graphical server, the non-graphical vga text mode on most gpu's as a buffer of data17:37
xorpadYou could program them if you had the graphics driver source to initalize multiple buffers for multiple screens and make a command-line tool or bash extension to switch which display has your keyboards focus17:38
genericxorpad: I want one screen as x and the other one as console17:38
xorpadwould require modding the kernel, and your gpu driver... but it wouldn't be a huge job, you COULD make an x11 server and use a terminal based window manager that only tiles terminals17:39
xorpadnot make x11 server, use one17:39
xorpadthere is window managers that only consist of tiled terminals and keyboard shortcuts for interacting with them17:39
xorpadActually, I think I'll add multiple monitor support in text mode to nouveau17:40
* xorpad adds to list of things to code17:40
alkisgxorpad, generic, also have a look at x2go instead of vnc17:42
genericwhy nouveaux? you don't need nouveau to run textmode...17:42
genericxorpad: I'd wanna run it on amd too17:43
xorpadgeneric, because you need to add multiple monitor support to a graphics driver for text mode, as none have support for this, and since i nvidia cards, I use the in-kernel nouveau drivers. there is ZERO way to get text output on multiple screens with the generic vga compatible graphics driver of linux17:43
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xorpadI use amd for cpu nvidia for gpu17:44
xorpadI prefer nvidia because I think CUDA is much nicer to work with than OpenCL and I've done a bit of GPGPU coding over the years17:44
xorpadopencl is barren, it has no set of standard libraries, CUDA offers a much more rich environment for build gpu kernels17:45
genericxorpad: zero way? that sounds f*cked17:45
nadioHello I am trying to install mysql-connector-net and it should be in artful repo, but for some reason it doesnt show up https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/artful/mysql-connector-net17:46
nadioanyone got an idea what could be going wrong ?17:46
ikoniageneric: please don't swear17:46
ikoniathere is no need for it and it's not welcome17:46
xorpadgeneric, it uses a vga compatibility mode for VGA standard that was used with 386 systems for the video card17:46
tomreynnadio: what makes you think it should be in artful?17:46
nadiotomreyn: if you look at the page I sent, it says its in artful.17:47
tomreynnadio: right, you pointed to a source package, which is in artful17:47
xorpadthat standard only allows one screen because multiple monitors on one video card was unheard of back then and no operating system supported it even if you had multiple video cards each with monitors17:47
tomreynnadio: if you read the page, it also says which binary packages are built from this source package17:48
nadiotomreyn: I cant find it with apt search on my system, even thought artful should be there17:48
xorpadwe're talking about using a backwards compatibility feature from the 80's17:48
genericxorpad: I have dual head vga cards there must be a way17:48
nadioah tomreyn yes I see it17:48
tomreynnadio: so you are on 17.10? and have source package repositories enabled?17:48
hggdhnadio: you want the binaries, or the source?17:49
nadiohggdh: the binary17:49
xorpadgeneric, not unless you modify your UEFI firmwares i386 compatibility mode code and then write the kernel modules and drivers17:49
hggdhnadio: look at the top of the page. The binary packages have different names17:49
tomreynwell then install one or more of the binary packages17:49
nadiotomreyn: Description:    Ubuntu 17.1017:49
c0untch0culais there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.17:49
tomreyn!17.1017:50
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/artful17:50
genericxorpad: what if I install a 2nd card for textmode?17:50
xorpadand by modify you uefi firmware compatibility mode, I mean reverse engineer it, modify it, and then flash it and hope your motherboard doesn't brick17:50
xorpadgeneric, you can't. the support is in the UEFI firmware for ONE AND ONLY ONE vga text mode buffer in memory17:51
nadiook hggdh tomreyn so the first 3 packages are built from in and package differently but still got the same functionality of mysql connect ? if I understand it correctly ?17:51
nadiojust a different name17:51
xorpadit's literally a feature of every BIOS to have a text mode buffer at a standard location, which you can write to to change characters on the screen17:51
genericxorpad: I'm using bios...17:51
xorpadgeneric, well, then your bios is doing the same thing uefi would in compatibity mode17:52
genericxorpad: 0x900000 if I remember correctly17:52
xorpadthe bios creates an area of ram(2000 bytes) at 0x0B8000, and the generic text mode display driver writes to it, and the bios puts that on the screen17:52
hggdhnadio: since I do not know what mysql-connect is expected to do, I cannot answer. All I know, from looking at the page, is that building the cource package mysql-connector-net generates a -dev, a library, and a doc packages17:52
tomreynnadio: you can inspect their contents.17:53
tomreyn"list of files"17:53
xorpadgeneric, I know that's wrong, I THINK it's 0x0B800017:53
xorpadif not, it's a very similar number to that i just posted17:53
genericxorpad: but then we're running protected mode here17:53
xorpadgeneric, you can switch modes at will17:53
xorpadyou can drop to 16 bit mode, write to the buffer, then escalate back to protected mode17:54
tomreynxorpad, generic: could you move on to #ubuntu-offtopic unless one of you has any ubuntu related support needs?17:54
xorpadyou can also allow access to protected memory when modifying the kernel which you need for what you want, because the kernel tells the MMU what to do17:54
genericxorpad: linux is running protected mode... no switching. that means that no bios code is running17:54
xorpadtomreyn, I'll just shut up, it doesn't seem like I'm making any point to him anyways17:55
tomreynnor that it belongs here17:55
xorpadwell, it started out as a ubuntu user question and drifted to another topic it wasn't intentional17:55
xorpadbut I'm done trying to convince him17:55
genericxorpad: I still don't get it 😣17:55
xorpadand you won't without decades of programming experience, lets leave it alone, if you really want me to keep explaining pm me17:56
cool_dudehi i want run script on start/restart18:02
cool_dudeneed more info ?18:04
_pppguys, how can i add a command to be displayed when i press the window button and search for it ?18:07
_pppthat panel dashboard18:07
_pppit works fine if i run it from command line but need to add it to the dashboard when i press window key18:07
cool_dudehave a script like (example) a bash script that will run command “ apt-get update “ when system starts restarts18:07
_ppphein?18:08
mcphailcool_dude: lots of ways to do this. I find the easiest thing is to create a cron job with the time set to "@reboot"18:12
cool_dudei am okay with hardway but i need rock solid way18:13
cool_dudeproccess should start for sure18:13
emmeciwhy my  ubuntu server 16.4, installed into a VM with gnome-boxes, is stuck syaoing "booting from hard disk"? I forgot some setting?18:16
LordDoskiason ubuntu 17.10 with 2 monitors in "joined mode" and the one being flipped to the left i can see th emouse on both monitors when it goes to the second one18:22
nadioWill Fedora 27 repository work in Ubuntu 17.10 ?18:26
emmecinadio no, because Fedora use rpm and ubuntu use .deb packages18:27
xorpadyou can get a tool to convert rpm to deb, I forget the name of the tool but when I used it long ago it was in the ubuntu repository18:27
xorpadjust google "ubuntu convert .rpm to .deb"18:27
xorpadshould find you that tool or another one to do the same job18:28
EriC^^!info alien18:28
ubottualien (source: alien): convert and install rpm and other packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.95 (artful), package size 53 kB, installed size 166 kB18:28
xorpadthanks EriC^^18:28
EriC^^np18:29
xorpadI think that was the one I used18:29
sm0ruxOK... probably I made a huge mistake... I hade problems with Pidgin. I uninstalled Pidgin (apt purge pidgin) and deleted a lot of18:31
sm0ruxfiles connected to Pidgin. When I install Pidgin again (apt install pidgin) everything works well except that I have deleted some (all?)18:31
sm0ruxicon files - and they are not installed when I reinstall Pidgin.18:31
sm0ruxHow can this be solved?18:31
oerhekssm0rux, maybe you need to logout/login again to restore those icons18:33
sm0ruxThanks, will try that18:33
thaurwylthHey guys, is the adjusting of swappiness still a thing? And if you have really big RAM's, what kind of swappiness do you use?18:34
sm0ruxoerheks: Sorry, that doesn't help18:36
oerheksthaurwylth, depends what you want, hybernate/sleep or not, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq18:36
thaurwylthThat is where I concieved the question from.18:37
thaurwylthI mean parts of that have been written in 2012, thus the 'is this still a thing' part.18:37
oerheksthaurwylth, SwapFaq (last edited 2017-03-13) .. no, swappiness is not an issue18:38
thaurwylthAnd also since the biggest RAM's in typical use are now much much bigger than five years ago I was interested whether people have turned the swappiness parameter lower.18:39
alkisgtypically swap is not used, so noone cares about swappiness :D18:44
emmecitoday, with a >4GB of RAm, the swap is now useless18:47
thaurwylthThat sounds reasonable.18:48
oerhekstoday, swap is not useless.18:49
antg85evening all19:00
antg85I'm having an absolute nightmare apt today I've completely buggered up apt so when I do anything all I see is dev ant # apt-get update 0% [Connecting to nginx.org (206.251.255.63)] [Connecting to ftp.heanet.ie ....19:00
antg85any ideas how to fix that19:00
alkisgantg85: does this work for you? `wget ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/debian/README -O -`19:02
antg85yep alkisg19:02
alkisgantg85: have you configured apt to use some proxy?19:02
antg85no I don't think so19:03
antg85how would I check19:03
Richard_CavellWhen I hit the F12 key in Ubuntu 16.04, I get a command window of some sort.  Is this a bash shell?19:03
alkisgantg85:  So the problem is that when you run apt-get update, it hangs and doesn't download anything? Did you try changing to another mirror, by running `software-properties-gtk` ?19:04
alkisgRichard_Cavell: is this ubuntu mate?19:04
auronandaceantg85: have you added various PPAs?19:05
Richard_Cavellalkisg: Yes19:05
alkisgRichard_Cavell: yes it's a pull-down terminal called tilda19:05
Richard_Cavellok19:06
Richard_Cavellit's there for convenience, I suppose19:06
alkisgYes but I think they removed it by default in later versions19:06
alkisgPeople didn't use it very much19:06
Richard_CavellWell my concern is that I like to use MAME and I want to use F12 for screenshots but tilda is intercepting the F1219:06
antg85I've emptied my sources list19:07
alkisgRichard_Cavell: it's in .config/autostart, you can remove it so that it doesn't autostart19:07
antg85alkisg: is there way to do that by cmd line19:07
alkisgantg85: you emptied your sources.list? Then where will it download the packages from?19:08
Richard_Cavellalkisg: Which directory is it?  My ~/.config/autostart doesn't have it19:09
alkisgRichard_Cavell: ls ~/.config/autostart19:09
alkisgWhat's the output?19:09
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Richard_Cavelldropbox.desktop19:09
Richard_CavellAnd that's all19:09
alkisgThat's strange. Tilda uses /etc/skel/.config/autostart/tilda.desktop to install to ~/.config/autostart.19:10
antg85ah ha so sources.d was complicating matters which I've no  emptied19:11
alkisgRichard_Cavell: run this: mate-session-properties. Do you see it there?19:11
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antg85my sources list now has ``` deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main```19:12
antg85however its still hanging19:12
antg85cd19:12
antg85 dev ~ # apt-get update 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.161)]19:13
alkisgantg85: put the output of this to paste.ubuntu.com: apt-get update -o Debug::acquire::http=true19:13
Richard_Cavellalkisg: Yes. I've unchecked it. Is that enough?19:14
alkisgRichard_Cavell: yes, it should be enough19:14
* Richard_Cavell reboots to see19:14
Richard_Cavellalkisg: That worked, thanks.19:20
alkisgnp :)19:20
V7Hey all :)19:49
V7Please ... could you test there: xset -q | grep -A 0 'LED' | cut -c59-67 ( with changing keyboard layout (language) ) and tell us the result ( is it shows different output19:49
V7) >19:49
V7?19:49
ikoniayou test it19:51
V7Already19:52
V7I need to know if it work in Ubuntu19:52
V7Ofc ... if you have some time19:52
ikoniarun it in ubuntu then and test it19:52
hggdhit works, but you do not need -A019:53
ikoniayou've asked this in 3 linux channels19:53
ikoniathis appears to be nothing to do with ubuntu based o the channels you're asking it in19:54
ikoniaif you want to test it in ubuntu, install ubuntu / use a livecd and test it19:54
drmessano"use a livecd and test it"  ++++119:55
drmessanoIn the 6 mins since you asked, you could have done exactly this..19:55
drmessanoIf you're doing a thing, and need to test it, use Live CDs on your own boxes19:56
Cypher100oh hi20:01
algidwhat is the simplest way to propagate a file to various machines at intervals?20:09
algidvia cron20:09
algidmaybe just ftp i guess20:10
ikoniarsync ?20:10
ikoniaconfig management20:10
algidjust one file20:10
ikoniadistributed file systems ?20:10
ikonialoads of options, depends on the use case20:10
algidthat needs to be standardized to various other machines20:10
algidjust a small text / script file20:11
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Richard_CavellI've heard that there's a keyboard shortcut to make a Terminal beep. Does anyone know about that?20:36
kk4ewtused to be control g would do it20:38
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AnticomHey anyone using visual studio code for web development? I've got a launch.json on my ubuntu matchine that specifies a configuration with type:chrome. Now my problem is that i've only got chromium-browser intsalled instead of chrome and visual studio code won't find chromium20:59
AnticomI'm on ubuntu 16.0420:59
alkisgAnticom: I don't think visual studio is supported in #ubuntu, but would a symlink from chrome to chromium-browser work?21:02
Anticomalkisg: hm probably but sound's like rather dirty fix. Sadly i wasn't able to find anything by googling arround21:03
Anticombut it's gotta be configured somewhree21:03
Anticomwait i think i've found somthing21:03
ikoniaAnticom: how is this an ubuntu issue ?21:05
J3089TEis this an ipv6 address? [::1]:8021:05
ikoniaJ3089TE: yes, localhost21:05
J3089TEhow do I disable  ipv6? it is causing me a lot of trouble21:05
ikoniahow is it causing you trouble21:06
Richard_Cavell Does anyone here know - if I take a snapshot using F12 inside MAME (installed from the repo on Ubuntu 16.04), where do the snapshots go?21:06
ikoniaespecially on localhost21:06
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: look in the mame config21:06
ikoniait's defined along with cabs, sounds, roms, etc21:06
alkisgJ3089TE: go to network manager connection editor, ipv6 tab, and disable it or check local net only21:06
Richard_Cavellikonia: In $HOME/.mame/mame.ini, I found snapshot_directory which is equal to $HOME/.mame/snap and that dir didn't exist so I created it.  But F12 within MAME does not save anything there.21:09
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: you may need to restart (I don't know for sure) to pickup21:10
ikoniamame only scans at certain points in time (for roms and scans etc)21:10
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: also check the permissions too21:10
kostkonRichard_Cavell, see if there's a mame folder inside your "snap" folder. You should have a "snap" folder since you've installed the mame snap21:10
ikoniakostkon: where did he said he'd installed a mame snap?21:10
tpgillamHi all. I'm having a very strange (and annoying) problem, that was present in 17.04 but seems to have got a lot worse in 17.10. I  described it in some detail here (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2369750), but in a nutshell the entire display freezes (i.e. no new frames are rendered) when switching from typing 'letters' to 'symbols'. In 17.10 this latency is worse, the display doesn't start refreshing until a c21:11
tpgillamouple of seconds after typing ceases. Some key observations: this happens in Gnome only, no other DE; also Gnome classic (compiz/metacity) is unaffected. Both Xorg and Wayland backends are affected in the same way. I have an nVidia chipset, but this occurs regardless of the driver that is used. I can track keypresses with xev to see that they are *not* delayed in being registered; one can tell that the whole display cease21:11
Richard_CavellI have $HOME/.mame/snap (which I created) and it does not contain a mame folder21:11
tpgillams to refresh since any UI element (e.g. video running in webbrowser) also freezes. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks very much!21:11
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: it shouldn't contain anything, you've just created it21:11
kostkonikonia, oh right, snapshot.. my bad21:11
ikoniakostkon: no big deal, thought I'd missed a bit of info there21:12
Anticomikonia: thought chromium-browser would be common for ubuntu users21:12
ikoniaAnticom: how is this anything to do with chromium ?21:12
ikoniaAnticom: have I missed the actual question behind the question21:13
Anticomsimilar to how the nodejs binary is called node instead of nodejs unlike in other distros21:13
Anticomikonia: i think VSC seems to have a configuration for type:chrome which actually tells it what binary to use21:13
Anticomand since it's called chromium-browser instead of chrome it might not find the binary21:13
Anticomso launching the browser fails21:13
Anticomhowever you *can* configure it with "runtimeExecutable" option21:14
ikoniaAnticom: chromium-browser is different to chrome21:14
Anticomikonia: i know, that's why i prefer it ;)21:14
ikoniaAnticom: then what are you asking ?21:15
Richard_Cavellikonia: I fixed it with help from #mame. The answer is just... mkdir $HOME/.mame/snap and then hit F12 inside MAME.21:16
ikoniaRichard_Cavell: you said that'swhat you had already done21:16
Richard_CavellYep. I couldn't get it to work though because I have an iMac with an idiosyncratic keyboard21:17
Anticomikonia: because i've found the solution after asking, sorry21:17
kubuntedkubuntu is awful. new windows 95. linux has been officially dead.21:18
akikwell that was a zero value comment21:18
ikoniaignore21:18
ikoniamove on21:19
Toadisattvawow archive manager is incredibly slow compared to using command line to unzip/unrar/7z21:22
MonkeyDustToadisattva  it's also faster to install something21:26
MonkeyDustit = cli21:27
TheNH813What happened to fridge.ubuntu.com/node/feed?21:29
TheNH813It returns a HTTP 404.21:29
MilhouseCan anyone tell me when the following started crashing? It core dumps in 17.10 which I've just clean installed, was fine in 16.04:find /tmp -printf '%A+'21:30
c0untch0culais there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.21:30
TheNH813Toadisattva: It's slow because it indexes all the files before processing them.21:30
Milhouseuh... no edit in #irc... this is the test case: find /tmp -printf '%A+'21:30
TheNH813So you can navigate the archive befroe extrating it.21:30
TheNH813Does it work to access a existing AP?21:30
TheNH813Milhouse: That sounds like it could be a bug.21:31
TheNH813I'v not really used those kind of parameters before, so I'm not 100% certain, but if it worked before and it's broke now, I'd call it a bug.21:32
TheNH813Unless some new security restriction interferes with it.21:32
TheNH813But /tmp should be global read write21:33
TheNH813c0untch0cula: Are you able to access existing WiFi access points?21:33
Milhouse@TheNH813 yes I'll file it on launchpad, just wondered if anyone here could test it on 16.10 or 17.04 - it works in 16.04, crashes in 17.1021:34
TheNH813I'm on 16.04, and can confirm it outputs some results.21:34
Ben6416.10 is dead, doesn't matter. 17.04 is dead soon21:34
TheNH813I'm not going to install 17.10 anyway, I'm waiting for 18.04 LTS.21:35
Milhouseyes, just interested to see when it might have been introduced, that's all21:36
Ben64what does %A+ do21:36
TheNH813Or maybe I'l push it all the way to EOL and hold out until 20.04.21:36
TheNH813Because 16.04 is supported until 202121:37
Milhouse@Ben64 it outputs the access timestamp for files in human readable format21:37
TheNH813Ben64: I don't know either. But it seems to print really accurate timestamps.21:37
Milhousetry: find /tmp -printf '%A+\n' (on a working system - you should get a list of dates)21:38
TheNH813Allright that's just cool. I need to learn more about these things.21:38
alkisgMilhouse: in 16.10, this landed: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/PIEByDefaultTransition21:38
alkisgMaybe it caused that issue...21:39
alkisg(which would be a bug in find, of course)21:39
Milhousepossibly, it's almost certainly a bug in whatever package find comes from21:39
Milhousei'm about to give up on launchpad, can't find where to open a new bug...21:40
alkisg$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/find21:40
alkisgfindutils: /usr/bin/find21:40
Milhousethanks21:40
Milhouseaha https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/findutils/+bug/172252821:41
alkisgYeah looks like a small buffer for the internal formatting string21:43
Milhouselooks like it's already fixed upstream http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?5184121:45
alkisgYeah, and this is the new compiler flag that caused it to show up in recent releases and not before: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#DEB_BUILD_HARDENING_FORTIFY_.28gcc.2Fg.2B-.2B-_-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE.3D2.2921:45
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MWMAny Mac users in here?  My question is about how to get Ubuntu to do something I think is an Apple thing....22:21
MWMhttps://www.utest.com/articles/using-folder-actions-on-os-x-to-automate-handbrake specifically number 3 on this page22:21
oerheksone can 'watch' a folder, and run a script.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/893019/monitor-folder-and-run-command-if-there-is-a-file-there22:24
MWMlooks to be what I was looking for.  Thank you22:25
oerheksincrontab, inotify .. many ways to do such action22:26
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c0untch0culais there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.22:44
c0untch0culais there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.22:44
ikoniac0untch0cula: a.) is it supported by linux b.) what is the driver it needs ?22:46
joelkraehemannhi all22:55
c0untch0culaikonia, yeah its supported by linux.22:59
ikoniac0untch0cula: ok ? so what's the issue with it ?23:00
c0untch0culai have the driver file, but its not installing right23:00
c0untch0culamy dongle works, but AP mode doesnt run correctly23:00
ikonia"not installing right" ?23:00
ikoniawhat does that mean23:00
c0untch0culai did sudo make, and it ran but had a few errors at the end,23:01
ikoniaso it's not "built" then23:01
c0untch0culasudo make install had errors too23:01
ikoniawhy would you run make install, if make failed23:01
c0untch0culaidk!23:01
ikoniayou'd be installing a broken thing23:01
ikoniaor installing "nothing" as it didn't build23:01
c0untch0culaok well idk23:02
ikonia?23:02
ikoniayou're the one typing, but you don't know why you typed it23:02
c0untch0culahttps://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u23:02
ikoniawhat do you want me to do with that ?23:03
ikoniac0untch0cula: what version of the linux kernel are you running ?23:04
_DejavuEvening, good fellas. I've removed a few old kernels to make an update (was no space on /boot) and now my wifi speed is 10x slower than it supposed to be. I've googled around but can't find anything that works. Lenovo T400, 4.4.0-98-generic. Please advise.23:07
ikonia_Dejavu: removing kernels that are not in use won't impact your wifi speed23:07
_Dejavuikonia: thats strange... it happened right after that reboot23:08
oerheks_Dejavu, unlikely related to kernel removal, did you try to restart your wifirouter?23:09
oerheksor other users heavily using network23:10
_Dejavuoerheks: I have, but i have normal speed on my other devices23:10
oerheksSo you tried to update, failed, removed old kernels, and updated again? you could roll back with the previous kernel, to see if this helps..23:14
_Dejavuoerheks: i've removed a few old kernels and successfully updated to 4.4.0-98, rebooted and thats when i noticed the speed issue23:16
TJ-_Dejavu: does "iwconfig" show invalids, or excessive retries ?23:19
_DejavuTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899215/23:21
joelkraehemannwhat about dist-upgrade to bionic?23:21
oerheksjoelkraehemann, go for it, support in #ubuntu+123:22
TJ-_Dejavu: right, that confirms it. Which device is it? Does this report anything? "lspci -nnk -d ::0280"23:22
_DejavuTJ-: lspci: -d: Invalid device ID23:24
joelkraehemannthe swiss ubuntu mirror is quiet slow :/23:25
TJ-_Dejavu: OK, maybe that PC has a different device class for it's wifi. Let's see "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"23:26
_DejavuTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899245/23:27
TJ-_Dejavu: so it's the 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:4236]23:28
TJ-_Dejavu: iwlwifi has had a reputation of these kind of issues *especially* in 802.11gn. There's a workaround that limits it to 802.11g (54Mbps) using the module option "11n_disable"23:30
TJ-_Dejavu: You might find installed one of the HWE kernels will solve it; recent kernels don't have the same problem23:30
TJ-!hwe | _Dejavu23:31
TJ-Grrr23:31
TJ-_Dejavu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:32
_DejavuTJ-: reading...23:32
TJ-_Dejavu: I'm using linux-lowlatency-hwe-edge to get the 4.13 kernel from linux-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge23:33
_DejavuTJ-: brother, play with me a little more. I still don't get it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899298/23:37
TJ-_Dejavu: is that ubuntu 14.04 Trusty ?23:38
_DejavuTJ-: 14.04 is what I have. or i need stacks from 16.04 ?23:39
TJ-_Dejavu: sory; I thought it was 16.04 where the HWE kernel versions go up to the very recent 4.13.23:41
_DejavuTJ-: sorry, got disconnected23:51
TJ-_Dejavu: sory; I thought it was 16.04 where the HWE kernel versions go up to the very recent 4.13.23:51
TJ-_Dejavu: I suggest you test with a recent mainline kernel for v4.13, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds23:52

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