[00:00] <MarkB2> bloop: I had the same problem using an NVidia 6200.  Every time there was an update re-creating initramfs, the driver would just lose its mind.
[00:00] <MarkB2> Kept crashing.
[00:00] <MarkB2> I did find a workaround.. but its ridiculous.
[00:03] <bloop> markus-k, what did you do
[00:23] <mirak> Is there a way to run a script after dpkg installed a particular package ?
[00:27] <Frigid_Cryotank> mirak: Like dpkg-reconfigure ?
[00:28] <mirak> Frigid_Cryotank, not really. I rather want that if a package is installed or reconfigured, then it starts a script
[00:28] <mirak> some script
[00:28] <mirak> I am looking if there is such a hook
[00:28] <marquezini> Guysss!!!
[00:28] <marquezini> anybody online now?
[00:29] <Frigid_Cryotank> I suppose you could do dpkg-query -l | grep package_name and count how many lines appear.  Run on that.  Something along those lines.
[00:29] <Bashing-om> !ask | marquezini
[00:29] <mirak> Frigid_Cryotank, what for ?
[00:29] <marquezini> im having a problem with a dell inspiron 5000 5254-D03P, the trackpad don't click with the click of the finger, only pressing down with force (click) how i can resolve thiss???? tanks man!!!
[00:30] <mirak> Frigid_Cryotank, that would still be manual
[00:30] <mirak> but yes maybe a wrapper around dpkg command could do that, but that would be a bad hack
[00:30] <marquezini> furthermore, the trackpad dont work touching only clicking down!!
[00:31] <Frigid_Cryotank> mirak: You mean you want the script to run after a dpkg install...Hm.  there is dpkg-trigger ..  did you try "man -k dpkg" ?
[00:31] <mirak> no
[00:33] <oerheks> mirak, write a script that watches apt log https://askubuntu.com/questions/203256/set-a-script-to-run-automatically-after-apt-get-dist-upgrade-install-remove-an
[00:33] <mirak> Frigid_Cryotank oerheks thanks I am looking into both
[00:39] <mirak> Frigid_Cryotank oerheks I think one way would be to create a .deb that reacts to the installation of the package I need
[00:39] <mirak> similar to what update-grub does when a kernel is installed
[00:39] <mirak> I am not sure ...
[00:42] <Frigid_Cryotank> mirak: if I had to set up something that would run when dpkg installed something... I might lay hands on the appropriate dpkg package and add that feature.
[00:42] <Frigid_Cryotank> But I'd add it in reverse.. so that the option would be something like --no-trigger instead of --trigger .
[00:44] <oerheks> not sure it covers snap packages too
[00:44] <Frigid_Cryotank> snap... is something else.
[00:45] <Frigid_Cryotank> A firm I was working for was looking to use snappyland for a product. I pointed out that snappy images seemed to want to update themselves.
[00:45] <Frigid_Cryotank> Last seen, there wasn't a way to turn that off that behavior.
[00:46] <bazhang> Frigid_Cryotank, try #snappy for snappy help
[00:46] <Frigid_Cryotank> bazhang: Thank you.
[00:46] <bazhang> np
[01:02] <jvava> I have two partitions, root and swap, 10g respectively, I want merge them into one root partition, how can I do, thanks
[01:07] <dev0drps> hello
 There used to be manpages for the v4l2 driver.  I don't see 'em in apt-cache .  Any idea of where to find 'em ?
[02:05] <timyp> yep
[02:05] <CarlFK> jvava: it depends - you can try: remove the swap partition, resize root to use the new space, see if it still boots, then try ... growfs I think it is called
[02:06] <CarlFK> all of this in "rescue mode"
[02:07] <CarlFK> you don't want to mount root rw for any of this
[02:08] <jvava> thank you, others told me use gparted, is it easier and securer?
[02:10] <jvava> CarlFK, can I make a backup for partitions?
[02:10] <jvava> Im going to try, thank you very much
[02:11] <CarlFK> jvava: 'yes' but doing it right and restoring it right can be tricky.  I would clone the whole disk with http://clonezilla.org/
[02:16] <Frigid_Cryotank> The Intel Joule claims it has 16 GB mmic .. but it turns out to be more than that.. and using dd(1) to clone the mmic to a 16 GB SDHC card fails miserably [more].
[02:17] <Frigid_Cryotank> I should write this up.  Every time I do it I'm amazed it works.  My boss looks at it, shakes his head and says, "Just make it work right."
[03:55] <_r00k_> I'm trying to get mysqld to run as a user other than mysql. I've changed it in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf (referenced in my.cnf), and modified /etc/init.d/mysql, but it still starts as user mysql. Is there a different place in Ubuntu to change that behavior?
[03:56] <strive> _r00k_: Interesting. Why would you want to have it run udner a different user?
[03:58] <_r00k_> strive: designing a demonstration.
[04:01] <strive> Nice.
[04:04] <superKiller> hello, i have a question. I want the string 'ipython' to run 'ipython3' everytime i put it in the terminal and not have the message 'ipython is not installed....sudo apt install ipython' . Can i do this once and for all instead of doing alias ipython=ipython3 everytime ?
[04:06] <_r00k_> superKiller: you can either alias ipython to ipython3 in your .bashrc or .profile file, or you can ln -s /path/to/ipython3 /usr/local/bin/ipython
[04:09] <superKiller> _r00k_: works for me now. thanks! :)
[04:10] <_r00k_> superKiller: np :)
[04:37] <cyberspectre> Hi #ubuntu. I have Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. When I connect to a bluetooth speaker, it doesn't appear in pavucontrol. Pulseaudio doesn't see it.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:34] <NotLim> hello
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> hey NotLim welcome
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> NotLim: how can we help you?
[05:40] <NotLim> well
[05:41] <NotLim> i don't need help
[05:41] <NotLim> and you?
[05:41] <Megabyte> Do you guys know how to use regexp?
[05:41] <NotLim> yes, i know
[05:41] <NotLim> actually, i'm working with some regexp, right now
[05:43] <zh> i just dipped my toes in the regexp water doing some freecodecamp exercise
[05:45] <Megabyte> NotLim, I have this file syntax:
[05:45] <Megabyte> 32_1-31 Super Mario RPG
[05:45] <Megabyte> I need to delete everything that matches those numbers and that string
[05:45] <Megabyte> So I need that generalized to:
[05:45] <Megabyte> **_*-** Super Mario RPG
[05:46] <Megabyte> How can I delete everything that matches that?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Megabyte: perhaps more a ##linux or #bash question?
[06:01] <sdfgsdfg> hi ! suddenly my backspace and enter keys are not working ! although when i select a text with mouse and backspace, it works for some reason. And enter key types ^[[2~
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> sdfgsdfg: have the right keybaodr layout active?
[06:03] <sdfgsdfg> ok tried tos seee with xev and after the first start turning on eand typing enter it gets stuck, types enter 29838 times and gets recognized as Insert after that
[06:03] <sdfgsdfg> that makes sense but why would layout change... how do I change it back ?
[06:04] <sdfgsdfg> this all started happening to my keyboard after i plugged in ethe mouse
[06:04] <sdfgsdfg> omg it works
[06:04] <sdfgsdfg> suddenly
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay
[06:05] <sdfgsdfg> I didnt do anything though
[06:05] <sdfgsdfg> magic keyboard is magic indeed
[06:06] <sdfgsdfg> wow, I was damn close to depression. This keyboard is like my penis
[06:06] <zh> Megabyte, you're wanting to delete the files?
[06:06] <Megabyte> zh, no
[06:07] <Megabyte> Just rename anything that matches that pattern
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> sdfgsdfg: please keep this channel familly friendly
[06:07] <sdfgsdfg> absolutely
[06:07] <sdfgsdfg> thanks for help anyways guys cheers
[06:07] <NotLim> Megabyte
[06:08] <Megabyte> NotLim, yes?
[06:08] <NotLim> wait, i'm reading
[06:08] <NotLim> what you wrote
[06:08] <NotLim> so...
[06:08] <NotLim> you want to delete... all those files
[06:09] <Megabyte> NotLim, NO
[06:09] <NotLim> does these files have extension?
 Megabyte, you're wanting to delete the files?
 zh, no
 Just rename anything that matches that pattern
[06:09] <NotLim> ok
[06:09] <NotLim> let me see
[06:10] <NotLim> 32_1-31 Super Mario RPG
[06:10] <NotLim> without extension?
[06:11] <Megabyte> NotLim, I want to remove all that pattern from the filename
[06:11] <NotLim> ok
[06:11] <NotLim> let me try
[06:11] <Megabyte> So 32_1-31 Super Mario RPG - Welcome! Yo'ster Island!! becomes, for example, Welcome! Yo'ster Island!!
[06:12] <NotLim> always with hyphen?
[06:12] <Megabyte> No, just discard everything before the hyphen
[06:13] <NotLim> okay
[06:13] <NotLim> (thinking)
[06:15] <GNUFnatik> how can I change the login screen from gnome to cinnamon at boot?
[06:22] <NotLim> try this one
[06:22] <NotLim> find . -type f -name '*-*'|while read -r LINEA; do echo -n "$LINEA -> "; echo $LINEA|awk -F'-' '{print $NF}'|sed s/"^\ "/""/;done
[06:23] <NotLim> won't do a thing
[06:23] <NotLim> just echo
[06:23] <NotLim> i'm just testing
[06:24] <GNUFnatik> do you want the output it's ridiculously long
[06:25] <NotLim> Megabyte ?
[06:26] <GNUFnatik> it's actually cut off. so I can't get you the full one
[06:26] <GNUFnatik> Megabyte what?
[06:26] <GNUFnatik> I pretty new to IRC
[06:26] <NotLim> is some guy...
[06:26] <Megabyte> GNUFnatik, ???
[06:26] <GNUFnatik> Yeahhhhhh
[06:26] <NotLim> asking for help with regexp
[06:26] <NotLim> Megabyte : did you try the testing?
[06:27] <NotLim> GNUFnatik... BTW: i've never used ubuntu with graphical interface
[06:27] <NotLim> :D
[06:27] <Megabyte> NotLim, Sorry... I just wanted a general regex syntax. But it seems there isn't one. I wanted to use it with Powershell.
[06:27] <NotLim> okay
[06:27] <GNUFnatik> NotLim really?
[06:27] <NotLim> really
[06:28] <NotLim> Megabyte: i think you won't need a regexp... you can do it with the last hyphen
[06:29] <GNUFnatik> I mean I know terminal browsers exist but how do you watch a video, run steam, or even search through the list of all packages?
[06:29] <Megabyte> NotLim, It doesn't work with everything :/
[06:29] <NotLim> :\
[06:30] <NotLim> GNUFnatik: with another pc...
[06:30] <NotLim> login to ubuntu through ssh
[06:30] <NotLim> :D
[06:30] <GNUFnatik> how do I make the text go green like you guys are doing when you tag me?
[06:30] <NotLim> well
[06:30] <NotLim> the text is not really green
[06:31] <NotLim> your irc client is highlighting it
[06:31] <GNUFnatik> I know that, so when I type your names if you guys used the same IRC you would see green too?
[06:31] <NotLim> yeah
[06:31] <NotLim> default config
[06:32] <NotLim> probably the green color can be changed
[06:32] <NotLim> HexChat
[06:32] <NotLim> 3.6 GHz
[06:32] <NotLim> i don't know that client
[06:33] <GNUFnatik> wait how do you know the clock speed of my cpu?
[06:33] <NotLim> when i do a ctcp version
[06:33] <NotLim> your irc client responds
[06:33] <NotLim> with this:
[06:33] <NotLim> CTCP VERSION reply from GNUFnatik: HexChat 2.12.4 / Linux 4.13.0-16-generic [x86_64/3.59GHz/SMP]
[06:34] <GNUFnatik> I was thinking of using empathy but when I installed cinnamon-session it disappeared
[06:36] <TJ-> Megabyte: I missed your earlier context but for the example you gave this works: "rename 's/.*? - (.*)/\1/' * "
[07:01] <cuddlesquid> ive been compiling my programs on one cuda gpu with cmake, but now i have to would anyone be so kind and assist me to compile my program with two architectures, ive tried cmake . -DCUDA=61,52 and ive tried cmake . -DCUDA=61, -DCUDA=52
[07:01] <cuddlesquid> thank you!
[07:28] <cuddlesquid>  cmake . -DCUDA_ARCH=52, -DCUDA_ARCH=30 works
[07:46] <Rockwood> i wanna uninstall my sublime from 16.04 server
[07:52] <ReedK0> how do you guys know where to install source code on ubuntu?
[07:52] <ReedK0> and how do you know it won't interfere with the stable release?
[07:56] <GNUFnatik> I mean you could compile it and leave it in /home under /home/Applications and start it manually
[07:56] <ducasse> ReedK0: 1) we've learned by reading and doing - experience, and 2) we install it where it shouldn't interfere
[07:57] <ducasse> oh, 'where' - sorry, i read 'how'. too early. :)
[07:59] <ReedK0> yeah i'm just wondering where I should install source code.
[07:59] <GNUFnatik> Why are you installing from source and what are you installing is important to know
[08:00] <ReedK0> GNUFnatik, I want to change the source code.
[08:00] <ReedK0> Like, for example, something that won't even matter like a tetris app.
[08:01] <ReedK0> to practice compiling and using it while also using git.
[08:01] <GNUFnatik> so it's not a part of the system.
[08:01] <ducasse> ReedK0: of a program that is already packaged?
[08:01] <ReedK0> no, all 3rd-party stuff.
[08:01] <ReedK0> yeah, but I wonder if different languages, for example, go in different directories.  Like if I had a Java tetris and a C++ tetris.
[08:01] <GNUFnatik> is it already on git
[08:01] <ducasse> well, /usr/local is the 'traditional' place for system-wide stuff
[08:02] <ReedK0> what does system-wide mean?  It means all users?
[08:02] <GNUFnatik> And also in the menus
[08:02] <GNUFnatik> so yeah'
[08:02] <ducasse> for all users, yes
[08:03] <ducasse> it is already in your PATH etc by default
[08:03] <ReedK0> So I should go to /usr/local/tetris-Java-src ?
[08:04] <ducasse> ReedK0: i put source under /usr/local/src, then let it install to /usr/local (binaries to /usr/local/bin etc)
[08:05] <ducasse> so /usr/local/src/tetris-Java for the source
[08:05] <ReedK0> and what about the stable release?
[08:05] <ReedK0> at /usr/local/stable/tetris-java ?
[08:06] <ReedK0> it doesn't feel cluttered?
[08:07] <ducasse> what do you mean by 'stable' there - what were you talking about before?
[08:07] <ducasse> you want two versions - one normal release and one for git snapshots?
[08:08] <ReedK0> like there's the src release, and then there's the stable release
[08:08] <ReedK0> the one people use when they don't want to hand-compile it.
[08:08] <ReedK0> yes, ducasse exactly
[08:09] <alkisg> For example, it's /bin/ls for the "packaged" version while the "local" would go to /usr/local/bin/ls
[08:10] <ducasse> ReedK0: what you call the source 'release' is just a snapshot - not a release
[08:11] <TJ-> ReedK0: I have a directory (file-system mount) /home/all/SourceCode/  ... for each project I create a sub-dir, so "mkdir /home/all/Sourcecode/tetris/" then inside that I extract the source-code packages, and do any "git clone <repo>" so I end up with ./tetris   ./tetris-1.0/ ./tetris-1.1/ and so on
[08:11] <TJ-> ReedK0: that way I can keep track of upstream and the different package versions in one place
[08:13] <ReedK0> well, that sounds interesting and similar to the other method except its at home not local probably because you don't want other people to play with src code
[08:14] <ducasse> it's similar to how i do it, except i keep system-wide stuff (daemons etc) in /usr/local
[08:15] <TJ-> ReedK0: it's called /home/all/ because all users have access. I reserve /usr/local/ (another separate file-system) for built tools - I collect and work on LOTS of source-code packages
[08:15] <TJ-> ReedK0: my SourceCode file-system is currently close to 50GiB
[08:17] <ducasse> ReedK0: it's really a matter of preference, what you're used to and what makes sense to you
[08:18] <erle-> Can I terminate the X part of Wayland (for testing purposes)?
[08:20] <ducasse> i think the gnome stuff needs it running, unless i'm mistaken. try it and see :)
[08:28] <niko1990> Hello everyone
[08:28] <alkisg> Hello
[08:33] <niko1990> I just ran into a really basic problem: I have a folder /media/mainfolder with owner user1:user1 and 770. And in this folder is another folder /media/mainfolder/special with owner user1:user1 and 777. So I can't access with user2 the mainfolder - what is correct, but I also can't access the special folder. Is this normal, that you need to have at least r+x permissions in the parent folder to access the subfolder?
[08:34] <GNUFnatik> TJ: that's a lot of source code
[08:38] <GNUFnatik> how do I check if trim is enabled?
[08:39] <TJ-> GNUFnatik: "grep discard /proc/mounts"
[08:40] <TJ-> niko1990: "chmod o+x /media/mainfolder"
[08:40] <TJ-> niko1990: the directory needs 'traverse' permission for 'others' in order for user2 to get to 'special'
[08:42] <niko1990> TJ-: Thank you, I already guessed that this is a normal function =)
[08:42] <TJ-> niko1990: for directories the 'x' permission means 'traverse'
[08:43] <GNUFnatik> TJ: There's no output. Is that manual trimming?
[08:43] <TJ-> GNUFnatik: it means none of the file-system have it enabled in /etc/fstab
[08:43] <niko1990> TJ-: ahhh, now I really got it =) Yes, that makes sence :)
[08:43] <GNUFnatik> TJ: So I've been running without trim the whole time?
[08:44] <ducasse> GNUFnatik: there's a cron job that runs it, as well
[08:44] <TJ-> GNUFnatik: possibly. see "man 5 fstab" and "man 8 mount"
[08:44] <ducasse> GNUFnatik: /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim
[08:50] <GNUFnatik> ducasse: fstrim is true
[08:50] <GNUFnatik> relief
[09:05] <lesshaste> I want to install a package but it has two options, one for qt 4 and one for qt 5 . how do I tell which one I need? I am in ubuntu 16.04
[09:08] <TJ-> lesshaste: which package?
[09:08] <lesshaste> TJ-, https://www.texstudio.org/
[09:08] <lesshaste> TJ-,  if you click on download you see the versions
[09:09] <TJ-> !info texstudio xenial
[09:09] <lesshaste> TJ-,  that's too old sadlyu
[09:09] <lesshaste> I want version 2.12.x
[09:09] <TJ-> lesshaste: the package in the Ubuntu archives depends on qt5 so I'd guess you want the QT5 version
[09:09] <lesshaste> thanks!
[09:10] <TJ-> lesshaste: you can determine that with "apt-cache depends tuxstudio | grep ^Depends"
[09:10] <TJ-> oops, bad typing: it's "  apt-cache depends texstudio | grep '^  Depends:'  "
[09:12] <TJ-> !info texstudio artful | lesshaste 2.11 is in 17.10 artful
[10:12] <HcsOmot> hi
[10:21] <varaindemian> Hi, I cannot unrar some files on ubuntu 17.10
[10:22] <varaindemian> best program to use for archives in general and .rar in my case?
[10:22] <doug16k> indicator-multiload was working fine for a while. since a recent upgrade, instead of showing the stuff in the top bar it only says "im" in the top bar :(
[10:24] <doug16k> gnome has broken a lot for me
[10:29] <doug16k> everything I do has been broken in one way or another: I can't press the option key when remote controlling mac clients in teamviewer, keyboard shortcuts are broken in qtcreator, indicator-multiload doesn't show anything anymore, tf2 doesn't go into fullscreen properly after alt-tabbing, okular has no pull down menus at all, skype has to be restarted every day to receive calls
[10:33] <cuddlesquid> doug16k, sounds like a very good time for consult our friend mr Format :)
[10:35] <cuddlesquid> varaindemian, https://www.kjbweb.net/install-rar-unrar-ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial/ it may not be the best option, but its all i got for you
[10:45] <alkisg> !unrar
[10:46] <cuddlesquid> :)
[11:00] <cuddlesquid> xpra or tmux?
[11:00] <cuddlesquid> or screen
[11:00] <cuddlesquid> screen i just had a small issue with detatch... i held D for too long and it actually terminated my process
[11:06] <wtiger> Hi!
[11:07] <wtiger> how do I resize my ubuntu root partition?
[11:07] <wtiger> (from the command line)?
[11:07] <ikonia> wtiger: you cant resize it while it's in use
[11:07] <ikonia> wtiger: you need to use external media
[11:08] <wtiger> ikonia: oh
[11:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:35] <nbusrone> anyone know how to set bash history to unlimited line ? the default is 500 lines ?
[11:38] <brainwash> nbusrone: you can change HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in your ~/.bashrc
[11:38] <nbusrone> brainwash : The default size is HISTSIZE=1000 HISTFILESIZE=2000 .What number I should set ?
[11:39] <brainwash> probably big ones if you want "unlimited" lines
[11:40] <nbusrone> brainwash : HISTSIZE=-1 HISTFILESIZE=-1 or HISTSIZE=100000 HISTFILESIZE=200000
[11:41] <brainwash> best to read the bash man page
[11:42] <brainwash> if -1 is accepted, then that's what you probably want
[11:43] <cuddlesquid> would anyone be so kind and help me minimize entire sesion of tmux, i have created some windows and a session, but would like to minimize session
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> cuddlesquid: perhaps the #tmux guys know that?
[11:47] <cuddlesquid> Ok
[11:47] <brainwash> and girls
[11:50] <vixxo> 'morning, I have an ebook reader that I used to mount as a usb drive: on ubuntu 17.10 when I mount It I have permissions just to access files and not to edit/add/remove them. Any suggestion ?
[11:56] <doug16k> unlimited is insanity. as if you would want a billion lines of scrollback
[11:57] <doug16k> how many gigs would that be? hint: too many
[11:58] <brainwash> until you run out of disk space
[11:58] <brainwash> one could tell bash to filter duplicated entries though
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: what does tail -f /var/log/syslog say when you plugin your reader
[12:06] <cuddlesquid> thank you lotuspsychje
[12:07] <nhaesler> How do I change my wifi frequency from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz on 17.10? It seems like the new Gnome settings app is missing the option to select the frequency.
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> cuddlesquid: did you fix it?
[12:08] <cuddlesquid> lotuspsychje, I did tmux channel helped, thank you very much :)))
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !yay | cuddlesquid
[12:08] <cuddlesquid> lotuspsychje, by default to detach safely from tmux ctrl+b then d
[12:08] <cuddlesquid> nice :)
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: cant you change frequency on your router page?
[12:11] <TJ-> nhandler: generally, the wifi client will be scanning both frequency bands, the allowed channels being set by the CRDA region setting
[12:11] <TJ-> nhaesler: : generally, the wifi client will be scanning both frequency bands, the allowed channels being set by the CRDA region setting
[12:13] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/190qGcXd
[12:14] <nhaesler> TJ-: I believe it does, but it still chooses the 2.4 GHZ frequency. In the old wifi settings, you could select a preference for 2.4 or 5 GHZ. But that option seems to be missing now.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: perhaps related to uid=1000 not sure, did you try on another user?
[12:16] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, nope
[12:18] <TJ-> nhaesler: hmmm, not sure, that should all be controlled via network-manager
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: updated or clean installed 17.10?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: driver of your wifi chipset installed correctly?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: can you try another user/guest to see what it does?
[12:25] <nhaesler> lotuspsychje: I updated from 17.04. Drivers are installed, all networks work fine (except for some 2.4 GHz networks constantly disconnecting). I can connect to 5 GHz-only networks. It's just that I cant't choose a preference on networks that offer both frequencies.
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: whats your chipset & driver plz?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: sudo lshw -C network to find out
[12:27] <cuddlesquid> !pastebin
[12:27] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, same issue
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: the way i see it, router should broadcast both ssid's 2,4 & 5ghz and ubuntu should be able to connect both right
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: how about gksu nautilus as a test
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> afternoon MonkeyDust
[12:29] <nhaesler> Here's the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25894484/
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: can you format that ebook reader or is it fixxed?
[12:29] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, tried to access with nautilus as root but can't edit, delete or create folders
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: thats weird indeed
[12:30] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, i would like not to format, strange is that on Trisquel it works without problems
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: perhaps related to 17.10 not allowing GUI root
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  good afternoon
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: looks good, you might wanna look on a tail -f /var/log/syslog to see why it doesnt asociate the 2,4
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria
[12:32] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: <vixxo> 'morning, I have an ebook reader that I used to mount as a usb drive: on ubuntu 17.10 when I mount It I have permissions just to access files and not to edit/add/remove them. Any suggestion ?
[12:34] <ioria> lotuspsychje, permissions ? :þ
[12:36] <nhaesler> lotuspsychje: Well it does associate the 2.4, but it loses connection a few times an hour (probably because there are too many 2.4 networks) My problem is, that I can't connect to the 5 GHz version of the network that's using the same ssid.
[12:36] <guoqing> does anyone use bootchart  at 17.10
[12:36] <vixxo> ioria, I can check, don't know how :)
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> nhaesler: sounds like driver issue
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | nhaesler
[12:37] <ioria> vixxo, ls -lR /media/$USER
[12:38] <vixxo> ioria, $ ls -lR /media/$USER /media/vale: total 0
[12:39] <ioria> vixxo,  run 'mount' and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <nhaesler> lotuspsychje: I'll try looking trough that, thanks. But it worked with the same driver on 17.04. It seems like the option to choose the frequency is simply missing in the new gnome wifi config.
[12:40] <ioria> vixxo,  press Paste, and give us the url
[12:41] <vixxo> ioria, sure, give me a sec
[12:46] <Rockwood> cya
[12:46] <vixxo> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25894652/
[12:46] <forgon> Which version of physfs is part of Ubuntu 17.10 ?
[12:47] <ioria> vixxo, ls -lR /media/vale/   again please
[12:52] <ioria> vixxo, please, in the public channel, not in pvt
[12:53] <vixxo> ioria, but there is the list of all my files
[12:53] <ioria> ok
[12:54] <ioria> vixxo, so you can read the files but cannot add or detete them  ?
[12:54] <vixxo> ioria, exhactly
[12:54] <vixxo> ioria, with Trisquel 7 I haven't this issue
[12:55] <ioria> vixxo, all the files are owned by you
[12:57] <ioria> vixxo, you have two devices plugged ?  sdb and sdc1
[12:57] <adrian_1908> forgon: https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/libphysfs1 ?
[12:58] <forgon> adrian_1908: Thanks.
[12:58] <adrian_1908> np!
[13:02] <ioria> vixxo,  try to install exfat-fuse
[13:06] <ilyaigpetrov> I installed ubuntu server with encrypted partition, but password doesn't match. I reinstalled it and password doesn't match again.
[13:07] <ioria> ilyaigpetrov, language issue  maybe
[13:07] <ilyaigpetrov> ioria: password is in latin + international characters
[13:08] <ilyaigpetrov> english layout is used
[13:10] <vixxo> ioria, the ebook reader has an internal memory plus an SDcard
[13:10] <vixxo> i try
[13:11] <ioria> ilyaigpetrov, the only reason  i know is that; encryption password is set before setting keyboard locale
[13:12] <vixxo> ioria, installed, is reboot needed ^?
[13:13] <ioria> vixxo, just plug  again the device and paste  dmesg | tail
[13:20] <mastizada> I have strange problem after upgrade to ubuntu 17.10. When selecting text in some app (for example gnome-terminal) selection stops after 2 seconds
[13:21] <alkisg> vixxo: 2 weeks ago my sd card of my rasperry pi died. I could read all the files and I could not write anything to it, not even format it. So if everything fails, try again Trisquel, if it happens there too now, it might mean the stick has died.
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> mastizada: can you try the xorg session as a test?
[13:31] <mastizada> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by running xors session as a test?
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> mastizada: your on 17.10 wayland i presume, so try logging out and login into the xorg session
[13:34] <mastizada> lotuspsychje: checked using `loginctl show-session 95 -p Type`, Type=x11
[13:35] <mastizada> Looks like problem with select is only in gnome-terminal and yakuake applications.
[13:35] <vixxo> alkisg, on trisquel all still works fine
[13:36] <mastizada> All others have problem with backspace, deletes only 1 or 2 characters when keeped pressed
[13:36] <alkisg> vixxo: compare the output of `cat /proc/mounts` on the two distros
[13:36] <vixxo> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/25895003/
[13:36] <mastizada> `org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.keyboard repeat` is true
[13:37] <ioria> vixxo, you have quite an answer
[13:37] <ioria> vixxo, Filesystem has been set read-only
[13:42] <BluesKaj> alkisg, did you move / to a usb stick on the rpi?
[13:42] <alkisg> Blueking: sd card
[13:43] <alkisg> Blueking: I also tried with / to nfs rw, if you want to ask something...
[13:43] <alkisg> BluesKaj, sorry
[13:44] <BluesKaj> yeah I had a sdcrad die after about 3 months so I decided to move the root dir to a usb hdd. That method saves the sdcard from too many writes and prolongs it's life if you just boot from it.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> alkisg,  like so: http://magnatecha.com/using-a-usb-drive-as-os-root-on-a-raspberry-pi/
[13:47] <alkisg> BluesKaj: sure, though nfs/nbd is easier if you have a networked drive instead of a usb one (e.g. even some real pc or nas disk)
[13:48] <alkisg> It's also possible to use mksquashfs in the sdcard, and use an overlay tmpfs over it, for speed + ro sd card
[13:49] <vixxo> ioria, but why is this read-only on ubuntu and not on trisquel ?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> alkisg, I have a simple usb connected spare hdd setup, works well ...no probs so far...."knocks on wood" "-)
[13:53] <ioria> vixxo, no idea, probably about the kernel in use; i suggest a fsck on that (or dosfsck)
[13:53] <vixxo> ioria, what do you mean
[13:54] <ioria> vixxo, fsck = file system check
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: might be worth testing it on a liveusb 17.10 as a test also
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: you updated from 17.04 right?
[14:04] <vixxo> lotuspsychje, no, fresh install
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: hmm ok
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> vixxo: backup data on that card and format with gparted perhaps?
[14:17] <vixxo> ioria, I'm using the default kernel :O
[14:18] <Amichai> need help with joining an Ubuntu Xenial Desktop to a Microsoft Active Directory domain
[14:20] <V7> hey all ;)
[14:20] <V7> Could you please help me how to get current layout in Linux ?
[14:20] <Mr_Cyclops> layout?
[14:20] <V7> I.e. "setxkbmap -query | grep layout" shows all layouts, but not current
[14:21] <strive> Amichai: I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of sites on that particular situation.
[14:21] <V7> This "setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{print $4}' | awk -F"+" '{print $2}'" shows only "us" even if enabled other layout
[14:21] <V7> Mr_Cyclops: Yup
[14:21] <alkisg> V7: do you mean programmatically? Wayland doesn't use xkb...
[14:22] <Amichai> strive: I followed the guides. work on trusty, but on xenial won't cross domains
[14:22] <V7> alkisg: Okay ... then how to get current layout?
[14:22] <V7> Without xkb
[14:22] <alkisg> V7: from which language, shell?!
[14:22] <V7> yup
[14:22] <alkisg> Heh
[14:22] <V7> Shell or whatever
[14:22] <alkisg>  try `dconf watch /` and change language
[14:22] <V7> I console
[14:22] <V7> In *
[14:22] <alkisg> Well, with C you could use the gnome calls for layout
[14:22] <Amichai> strive: I can authenticate with my local domain, but any other it fails on wrong password
[14:23] <strive> Amichai: Samba?
[14:24] <Amichai> strive: the sssd conf shows samba as the authenticator, but on xenial it shows adcli
[14:25] <Amichai> strive: it seems to be a bug in sssd in xenial
[14:25] <strive> Amichai: Isn't sssd more complex?
[14:26] <V7> So ... anyone ?
[14:26] <Ghost_562> I recently updated to 17.10 and now my laptop hangs on shut down or reboot. anyone have any tips on what im looking for?
[14:26] <Amichai> strive: can you point me to a working guide for xenial?
[14:27] <strive> Ghost_562: Have you checked 'journalctl -b'?
[14:28] <Ghost_562> strive, no
[14:29] <strive> Amichai: So, you're just trying to connect Ubuntu to AD? I personally use Samba for this.
[14:29] <Amichai> strive: it's an M$ domain
[14:30] <Amichai> strive: how would I set up authentication>
[14:30] <strive> Amichai: https://www.tecmint.com/join-ubuntu-to-active-directory-domain-member-samba-winbind/
[14:31]  * strive sips on coffee.
[14:31] <Ghost_562> lol
[14:31] <strive> ?
[14:37] <yorwos> hi all , i am using a firewire sound card (firepro 610) and jack. in order to get the audio working i had to make a file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-no-jack.conf blacklisting firewire devices. now i'm trying to connect a firewire cam. when i jack freezes , if i unplug the cam jack wont start unless i reboot without the cam. im using a pci firewire card with 3 fw slots. any suggestions how to get both the cam and the sound working ?
[14:39] <Rockwood> hello
[14:39] <Rockwood> i am wanna enable sftp on my digital ocean server
[14:40] <Rockwood> my computer and server bith having same os
[14:41] <strive> Rockwood: DO has some pretty good guides.
[14:41] <strive> Rockwood: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-sftp-to-securely-transfer-files-with-a-remote-server
[14:43] <Ghost_562> seems to be kernal issue
[14:44] <strive> Ghost_562: :(
[14:44] <Ghost_562> task kworker/u8:0:5 blocked for more than 120 secs
[14:45] <Ghost_562> 4.13.0-16generic #19-Ubuntu
[14:45] <L00P3X> GoodEvening.. it happens often as I turn on the laptop and open up some browser. my laptop freezes coursour included and can't open a prompt window or do anything.. i just smashed my pc once by holding down the power button whit data loss on this machine! no errors at reboot don't know why this happens
[14:45] <Ghost_562> seems to be an issue. theres a bug listed online it seems like.
[14:46] <Ghost_562> L00P3X, can your laptop handle whatever youre trying to do?
[14:46] <Rockwood> strive thanks
[14:46] <strive> Rockwood: Sure thing.
[14:47] <L00P3X> Ghost_562, i think so.. dualcore 2gb schould be enought i think.. don't know why this happens
[14:48] <strive> L00P3X: Run 'dmesg -w' before opening firefox.
[14:48] <strive> L00P3X: Maybe it'll show messages here?
[14:50] <L00P3X> strive, i had a "[  636.770658] perf: interrupt took too long (2535 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 78000" befor opening.. the broeser do not give me errors any kind
[14:54] <strive> hm
[14:57] <nadio> Hello I have created a swap file, not a partition and acticated this but for some reason ubuntu refuses to utilize it, anyone got any ideas what could be wrong ? I am trying to install an application that requires more ram then the system has but while doing this it refuse to use the swap file.
[14:58] <strive> L00P3X: Try 'tail -f' then open firefox.
[14:58] <strive> L00P3X: Woops, tail -f /var/log/syslog
[15:01] <strive> nadio: How did you activate it?
[15:01] <nadio> strive: by this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:01] <strive> nadio: Also, using swap space could potentially slow down your system further.
[15:02] <nadio> strive: I know, but I need more memory temporarly, not planing to have it as permanent solution.
[15:03] <Ghost_562> exit
[15:03] <strive> What's 'swapon --show' display?
[15:04] <nadio> NAME      TYPE SIZE USED PRIO
[15:04] <nadio> /swapfile file   5G   0B   -1
[15:04] <L00P3X> strive, got nothing on firefox and a kernel: ufw block over chromium.. i don't know what it could be
[15:05] <nadio> strive: everything looks "alright" what I can read, but that is very limited in this situation.
[15:06] <L00P3X> strive, is there some "tail" or "dmesg" to run at boot on some txt to get something out as it happens? maybe i can get the error whitout searching around
[15:06] <strive> nadio: https://serverfault.com/questions/681240/forcing-a-user-to-use-swap-space-after-certain-memory-usage-using-limits-conf
[15:06] <skinux_> I need the right command(s) to get all my hardware and system info, such as to allow someone else to help me decide if my system should be able to handle the activities I do at once...
[15:06] <skinux_> Is uname with an argument the right command?
[15:06] <cableguy> hey team
[15:06] <strive> L00P3X: 'journalctl -b' will display logs recorded at boot.
[15:07] <cableguy> i compiled openssl on 16.04
[15:07] <cableguy> but its missing all the libssl.so files
[15:07] <cableguy> if i run /sbin/ldconfig -p
[15:07] <strive> skinux_: lspci -nn
[15:07] <cableguy> it shows libssl.so.1.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.1
[15:07] <cableguy> but those files dont exist in that directory
[15:08] <cableguy> where do i pull those files from
[15:08] <nadio> strive: I know but humm in my case its like its ignoring swap...
[15:08] <cableguy> the libssl.so.1.1 and libssl.so.1.0.0
[15:08] <nadio> 3.25gb is the limit, I have 5gb in swap
[15:08] <cableguy> because now not a single program is working
[15:08] <cableguy> e.g. php: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:08] <cableguy> while `openssl version
[15:08] <cableguy> OpenSSL 1.0.2m  2 Nov 2017
[15:08] <cableguy> `
[15:09] <strive> nadio: Maybe cgroups could help with forcing a process into using swap.
[15:09] <L00P3X> strive, no errors about that.. no crash or something.. will see you soon guys.. problem by side.. will save al my data and get a new os like lubuntu or something :)
[15:10] <strive> L00P3X
[15:10] <strive> L00P3X: I like to keep my installations very minimal.
[15:10] <strive> L00P3X: I usually download a 'server' version of Ubuntu and install al the things manually.
[15:10] <strive> s/al/all
[15:11] <L00P3X> strive, should be done this way. i'm not able to do so. no one never explained my how.. and why to do so
[15:11] <strive> skinux_: 'uname -a' will display kernel version, usually a distro version and CPU architecture.
[15:11] <ikonia> L00P3X: what is the spec of your machine
[15:11] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu are you running
[15:12] <strive> skinux_: You could also use 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'.
[15:13] <nadio> strive: I dont know what cgroups are ?
[15:13] <strive> skinux_: 'dmidecode -t 2' will display mobo info.
[15:13] <L00P3X> ikonia, 17.04 should be
[15:14] <ikonia> not 'should be' looking for 'is'
[15:14] <strive> nadio: 'cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness'; what's the value?
[15:16] <nadio> strive: 10
[15:17] <strive> nadio: That's why.
[15:17] <nadio> strive: ? what should I change it to ?
[15:17] <strive> nadio: The hgiher the number (up to 100), the more likely swap will be used.
[15:17] <nadio> ah ok
[15:17] <strive> 60 for now it seems.
[15:17] <strive> Try that.
[15:17] <nadio> please give me a sec, to test it out.
[15:17] <ikonia> strive: have you thought "it may not need to swap"
[15:17] <strive> nadio: Go for it.
[15:18] <ikonia> don't change the swapiness to force it to sawap
[15:18] <ikonia> swap
[15:18] <ikonia> that seems silly,
[15:18] <strive> ikonia: Yes, I thought nadio may just have enough RAM for that process, but nadio wants to test it.
[15:18] <ikonia> why though ?
[15:18] <ikonia> trust the machine
[15:18] <ikonia> it will swap if it needs to
[15:18] <strive> ikonia: Dunno. nadio's choice.
[15:18] <strive> ikonia: I concur.
[15:19] <nadio> humm tried all, 50, 60, 80, 100 and still get the same error message "ERROR: This machine must have at least 3.25 gigabytes of memory to install Microsoft(R) SQL Server(R).
[15:19] <ikonia> microsoft ?
[15:19] <nadio> ikonia: I know... but not the right time for that.
[15:20] <ikonia> nadio: it is the right time
[15:20] <L00P3X> 17.04 it is.. but i've got to go.. i appreciated it.. see you again guis. have a good day
[15:20] <ikonia> how are you trying to install SQL Server on linux
[15:20] <nadio> ikonia: you pay me to like OSX and I will, but as I said wrong time.
[15:20] <nadio> or even 3.11 windows
[15:20] <ikonia> nadio: it's not the wrong time
[15:20] <ikonia> nadio: how are you trying to install Microsoft SQL server on linux
[15:20] <nadio> ikonia: just by apt install
[15:21] <ikonia> apt install, microsoft SQL server....
[15:21] <ikonia> from what repo
[15:21] <nadio> but for some reason this doesnt seem to recognize the swap space at all.
[15:21] <nadio> ikonia: microsoft own I think
[15:21] <ikonia> nadio: where are you getting this package, from what repo
[15:21] <ikonia> nadio: you think ???
[15:21] <ikonia> nadio: you must know where it is coming from, you have configured it
[15:21] <nadio> ikonia: its from microsoft.com
[15:22] <ikonia> nadio: show me how you configured the repo
[15:22] <nadio> strive: got any ideas what I can try in this situation, ether the swap if wrongly setup or the package is causing more issues then I expected
[15:22] <ikonia> nadio: answer the quetion so we can see the problem
[15:22] <ikonia> rather than just ignoring it and trying to get different help
[15:23] <ikonia> how did you configure the repo
[15:23] <ioria> mssql-server, i guess ... from curl https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc
[15:23] <nadio> ikonia: https://askubuntu.com/questions/850957/how-do-i-install-mssql-server-and-or-tools-for-linux-on-16-04
[15:23] <nadio> curl https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc | apt-key add -
[15:24] <strive> I'm confuzzled.
[15:24] <ikonia> nadio: and you're running ubuntu 16.04 ?
[15:24] <ikonia> lets have a read of what you've done
[15:24] <nadio> the source, not the docker.
[15:24] <ikonia> the source ?
[15:24] <ikonia> not docket ??? what
[15:24] <ikonia> ooh, I see the instructions
[15:25] <nadio> ikonia: yes latest and not long term service
[15:25] <ikonia> nadio: the latest not long term serivce ?
[15:25] <ikonia> what ?? what version of ubuntu are you running
[15:26] <nadio> ikonia: Release:        17.10
[15:26] <nadio> Codename:       artful
[15:26] <ikonia> right
[15:26] <nadio> latest not LTS
[15:26] <ikonia> so the instructions say it MUST be on 16.04
[15:26] <ikonia> and the repo only has xenial
[15:26] <ikonia> you're using 17.10.....
[15:26] <ikonia> so already a problem
[15:26] <nadio> ok
[15:28] <nadio> ikonia: I dont see how that affects the memory requirements
[15:28] <nadio> ikonia: version difference are a b**** but not an issue always
[15:28] <ikonia> nadio: it doesn't matter
[15:28] <ikonia> you're mixing repos
[15:28] <ikonia> software for the wrong version
[15:28] <ikonia> this is not a supported option
[15:28] <varaindemian> I cannot install opera by double clicking the package. I am on 17.10
[15:28] <ktechmidas> not a good idea unless you really know what you're doing
[15:28] <varaindemian> anyone can help pls?
[15:29] <ktechmidas> varaindemian: have you tried installing it manually?
[15:29] <nadio> ikonia: so you are saying I should downgrade to 16.04 ?
[15:29] <ikonia> nadio: I'm saying you should run the correct OS for the correct package
[15:29] <ktechmidas> maybe an error or something occurs... is it a .deb file?
[15:30] <nadio> ktechmidas: .deb file yes
[15:30] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, yes it's a deb file
[15:31] <Rockwood> my ubuntu having a strange problem of internet disconnection automatically
[15:31] <ktechmidas> varaindemian: open a terminal, sudo to root, go to the deb file and run "dpkg -i file.deb" (replacing file.deb with the file, of course)
[15:31] <nadio> https://pastebin.com/gXnQQe4s
[15:31] <nadio> the complete error message or installing mssql
[15:31] <varaindemian> I double click on it and it opensit in ubuntu software center then I click on install it stucks at 98% and then the install button is available again and opera is not installed
[15:31] <Rockwood> hey pastebin means dustbin
[15:31] <ikonia> nadio: it's not supported here
[15:31] <ikonia> nadio: please let it go
[15:31] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, it says dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'opera-stable_48.0.2685.52_amd64': No such file or directory
[15:31] <ikonia> nadio: you also have your package database in an unclean state, so I'd advise fixing that also
[15:32] <ktechmidas> varaindemian: which directory are you in right now?
[15:32] <ktechmidas> run 'pwd'
[15:32] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, Downloads
[15:32] <ktechmidas> varaindemian: when you sudo, your directory may change...
[15:32] <ktechmidas> so are you sure?
[15:33] <varaindemian> yes
[15:33] <varaindemian> pwd gave me Downloads
[15:33] <ktechmidas> ah
[15:33] <ktechmidas> alright try this
[15:33] <ktechmidas> dpkg -i opera<TAB>
[15:33] <ktechmidas> it should fill in the full filename
[15:33] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, I used tab key to get the name when I tried sudo dpkg -i
[15:33] <ktechmidas> when I say <TAB> I mean press tab
[15:34] <ktechmidas> good stuff
[15:34] <ktechmidas> there's no .deb on the end though
[15:34] <varaindemian> how....
[15:34] <ktechmidas> you said above...
[15:35] <varaindemian> oh but I used the TAB key
[15:35] <varaindemian> ..
[15:35] <varaindemian> it works now
[15:35] <ktechmidas> :) it's possible you have a few files
[15:35] <ktechmidas> if you hit tab a few times it'll show you
[15:36] <ktechmidas> which files they are
[15:36] <varaindemian> where can I paste the output/
[15:36] <ktechmidas> gist.github.com
[15:36] <ktechmidas> is a good one
[15:36] <ctino> Hi, today I've been testing with pxe boot. Target vm has Ubuntu 17.10 - Artful
[15:37] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/279c812be215359cdca4d16fa639a97c
[15:37] <ctino> For some reason /etc/fstab stays empty
[15:37] <ktechmidas> varaindemian: if you still have that terminal open
[15:37] <ktechmidas> just run "sudo apt install -f"
[15:37] <ktechmidas> it *should* pull in all the dependencies
[15:37] <ctino> Any idea why? It results in a read-only filesystem
[15:37] <ktechmidas> then try to install opera again
[15:38] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, so that's the problem.. dependencies
[15:38] <varaindemian> isn't -f not really recommended?
[15:38] <ktechmidas> it's not as bad as it was 15 years ago
[15:38] <ktechmidas> I promise
[15:39] <ktechmidas> -f is just to fix it
[15:39] <ktechmidas> it'll try to fix it automatically
[15:39] <ktechmidas> so you don't have to go hunting for the packages yourself
[15:40] <varaindemian> ktechmidas, * kosmos890 (~km@176.92.48.175) has left
 ktechmidas, so that's the problem.. dependencies
 isn't -f not really recommended?
 it's not as bad as it was 15 years ago
 I promise
 -f is just to fix it
[15:42] <ktechmidas> oops...
[15:43] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.
[15:47] <ctino> The only line after a fresh install in /etc/fstab is: # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[15:52] <amide> hello
[16:04] <pavlos> ctino: which ubuntu 17.10?
[16:04] <Explorer999> Hello, somehow when I installed ubuntu my windows dosent load anymore. I installed ubuntu alongside my windows but somehow something must have went wrong because now Im not able to boot up windows anymore from the ubuntu bootloader
[16:05] <Explorer999> can it be realted with that I have not been able to mount the windows partion properly or something?
[16:05] <Explorer999> and gparted dosent work on Ubuntu 17.10
[16:05] <Explorer999> any ideas of next steps?
[16:06] <rawruw> oops. I just asked in #debian. I hope I can do the same in ubuntu.
[16:06] <rawruw> !stretch sysvinit
[16:06] <rawruw> want to downgrade from systemd to system v init
[16:07] <auronandace> Explorer999: regarding gparted not working what you likely mean is it doesn't launch. this is a security feature of wayland preventing whole apps launching as root. it will launch if you boot into the session with xorg rather than the default wayland
[16:09] <Explorer999> auronandace - Yes it dosent launch.
[16:09] <hggdh> you will probably be able to start gparted as root if you 'xhost +si:localuser:root'
[16:13] <Explorer999> hggdh: Thanks alot that worked :)
[16:15] <isene> After upgrading to 17.10, notify-send has stopped working (it simply hangs) when doing this in a terminal ' notify-send "Test" '  - is this a known issue?
[16:16] <rawruw> (not crossposting.. comparing distros..). If I mount an USB-device with ext3 and on it have a shell binary with +setuid and owner root.. and then run that program... Will I then get root access? :3
[16:17] <isene> strace hangs on this point: "poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000"
[16:18] <isene> And this; "futex(0x7f9167c86288, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[16:20] <WitherSlick> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu budgie and really loving it, does it have it's own IRC Channel?
[16:21] <auronandace> rawruw: you can really downgrade from systemd to sysvinit on ubuntu
[16:21] <auronandace> can't
[16:21] <auronandace> rawruw: 14.04 still uses upstart if you really wanted to avoid systemd but still use ubuntu
[16:23] <BluesKaj> WitherSlick, there's #ubuntu-budgie, but only 20 users
[16:23] <bcowan> WitherSlick, most activity is on Gitter
[16:23] <WitherSlick> lmao wth is gitter
[16:24] <bcowan> WitherSlick, some off the wall messaging like thing from git..not very good imho
[16:24] <WitherSlick> Thanks for linking me to the IRC Channel and telling me about gitter bcowan preciate it
[16:28] <rawruw> auronandace: how do I tell what ubuntu version Im running?
[16:28] <rawruw> ah, there was a menu for that. But there's a command too :3
[16:29] <hggdh> rawruw: lsb_release -r
[16:30] <rawruw> is setuid really a problem though? isn't that pre-configured to be protected against already?
[16:30] <rawruw> hggdh: is there a cross-distro command for that?
[16:31] <hggdh> rawruw: theoretically, lsb_release would be cross-distro...
[16:31] <auronandace> rawruw: this isn't a cross distro channel
[16:33] <rawruw> auronandace: how do you know that I wasn't checking whether ubuntu works equally well with what I was asking for?
[16:33] <rawruw> auronandace: dont' be so hasty with your prejudices
[16:34] <auronandace> !topic | rawruw
[16:34] <rawruw> !topic | auronandace
[16:34] <hggdh> rawruw: enough, please
[16:35] <_ppp> hello, anyone knows how can i capture a screenshot in VIDEO and have it automatically converted to a GIF file and uploaded to a site like imgur as a gif file?
[16:36] <MarkB2> Good morning.  I'm doing some coding work.. and have found a wonderful archive in /usr/share/doc .  Loaded dochelp .. but it seems unable to display files in that directory (or sub-directories).
[16:36] <oerheks> _ppp, shutter can do that, with a plugin https://askubuntu.com/questions/177921/whats-a-screenshot-application-which-will-auto-upload-to-imgur
[16:36] <MarkB2> What program allows viewing of those files?
[16:36] <rawruw> need to reset passwords.. I've forgotten them all. root dir mounted. What do I do now? :p set the password field in shadow to an empty string?
[16:37] <_ppp> oerheks, need a video not pic upload
[16:37] <oerheks> rawruw, stop crossposting, thanks
[16:37] <explorer999> I have installed Ubuntu alongside windows10. When im booting up I get started into the bootmanager of ubuntu and can choice etither to start ubuntu or windows. Unfortenetly something have happend to my windows because when I try to boot it it goes directly into recovery mode.
[16:37] <explorer999> any ideas of what to check?
[16:37] <oerheks> _ppp, ??? "s how can i capture a screenshot"
[16:38] <_ppp> Video
[16:38] <rawruw> oerheks: I'm comparing distros, not cross posting.
[16:38] <oerheks> _ppp, or do you want to make a gif of that video??
[16:38] <oerheks> rawruw, no, you are not.
[16:38] <_ppp> yessss
[16:38] <hggdh> rawruw: if you ask the same thing in different channels, you *are* cross-posting
[16:39] <tony1> _ppp: ffmpeg can probably do what you want. google that
[16:40] <_ppp> tony1, need that to be automated
[16:40] <tony1> put it in a script
[16:41] <rawruw> hggdh: "how do I say cat" in ##spanish is not the same question as the equivalent string in ##german, context matters.
[16:41] <hggdh> rawruw: still. You have just been called on tis on another channel. Please don't do it.
[16:42] <oerheks> _ppp, ffmpeg and imagemagic can do that, for automation you would need to write a script?
[16:43] <Rockwood> cya
[16:48] <explorer999> Before I installed ubuntu I splided my SSD disc in 2 halfs. Then I installed ubuntu and choosed install alongside windows. But now Im not able to boot into windows. Something has happended.
[16:49] <deiks> Hi guys, is there possibility to restore app when in tray by double click, currently just getting menu, where I need to click "open APP-NAME" (Ubuntu desktop 17.10) -- Thanks
[16:49] <explorer999> Any ideas on what to check? it weird everything seams ok in gparted also
[16:50] <brainwash> explorer999: maybe refreshing the boot loader config can help
[16:50] <oerheks> explorer999, maybe your windows is in uefi mode, and ubuntu not?
[16:50] <oerheks> !uefi
[16:53] <explorer999> Yes maybe so. I will check this abou the UEFI
[16:54] <MarkB2> Is there a viewer for the documentation located in /usr/share/doc ?  This is for Ubuntu 17.10 .
[16:54] <lorddoskias> hello, i hard-rebooted my machine and now when it boots my keyboard (apple keyboard) doesn't work and my resolution is really messed it's set to 896x something
[16:54] <lorddoskias> i ran fsck and it didn't show fs corruption
[16:55] <lorddoskias> if i boot from recovery mode to normal boot then my resolution is fine but i boot directly to ubuntu the output is garbled ?
[16:55] <doug16k> lorddoskias, when you say "hard rebooted" you mean you cut power?
[16:56] <lorddoskias> i pressed the power button on the machine
[16:56] <doug16k> :O
[16:56] <doug16k> don't do that
[16:56] <lorddoskias> e.g. held it for a couple of seconds, since the machine wasn't responsive
[16:57] <lorddoskias> doug16k: yeah, in hindsight this was a really stupid decision .. .
[16:57] <doug16k> when you need to emergency override reboot, hold alt and press printscreen (keep holding alt...) SUB with a delay between each letter
[16:57] <doug16k> S = sync filesystem, U = unmount filesystems, B = force reboot
[16:58] <lorddoskias> the magic sysrq stuff
[16:58] <lorddoskias> the question is what can i do NOW to recover my machine without losing data
[16:58] <lorddoskias> i use ext4 and so the fs should be consistent, no
[16:58] <doug16k> no
[16:58] <doug16k> by default write caching is enabled. if you pressed reset, sure. cut power, nope
[17:01] <doug16k> lorddoskias, if you remove the # on the line "write_cache = off" in /etc/hdparm.conf, then yes, the risk is nearly zero (or zero, depending on your disk)
[17:01] <lorddoskias> funny a simple usb keyboard works, my apple one doesn't
[17:02] <doug16k> disabling the write cache doesn't significantly impact performance
[17:02] <doug16k> when write cache = on, then you are telling the drive "tell me the write is finished when it makes it into your buffer". when write cache = off, then you are telling the drive "tell me the write is finished when it is on disk"
[17:03] <lorddoskias> okay
[17:03] <lorddoskias> but i don't really care about that atm
[17:03] <doug16k> the barriers will rely on that. if you pressed reset or magic sysrq, it would be okay
[17:03] <lorddoskias> i just want to bring my machine in a bootable state
[17:04] <doug16k> I would boot from a live usb/cd and run fsck on everything as a first step
[17:05] <lorddoskias> right, then
[17:06] <cool_dude> how to know file type ?
[17:06] <lorddoskias> doug16k: is it normal that when i choose drop to root shell prompt
[17:07] <lorddoskias> then after like 5 minutes the machine seems to continue booting on its own
[17:07] <tomreyn> MarkB2: you could use 'less'
[17:07] <lorddoskias> i.e. i got osme logs from systemd that services have been started
[17:07] <tomreyn> MarkB2: or any text viewer / editor of your choice
[17:07] <doug16k> lorddoskias, are you sure the keyboard is plugged in all the way? sounds like it was just booting as it would if you didn't press anything
[17:08] <MarkB2> tomreyn: I'm staring at the SDL2 collection of documents with Firefox.  There is an index.html file.. and that's ..usually.. where to start.
[17:08] <tomreyn> MarkB2: right, for html documentation a web browser sounds like the right choice
[17:08] <MarkB2> But the links in there only point back to the SDL2 internet webpage, not the pages stored locally.
[17:09] <evgeniy> Hi all!
[17:09] <evgeniy> Help me please. How I can disable suspend on lid close on my laptop? ubuntu 16.04 LXDE. https://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid  - I try that, but have no effect.
[17:09] <MarkB2> There doesn't seem to be a ..useful.. way to browse those docbook pages....
[17:09] <doug16k> cool_dude, use the "file" command. file some-filename-here
[17:10] <tomreyn> MarkB2: if all links on the index.html doducment point back to the live web although there are other files in the doc package then i'd consider this a package bug.
[17:11] <cool_dude> google helped me thanks for your comfort as well  :D
[17:13] <cool_dude> but showing ‘data’
[17:13] <cool_dude> only
[17:13] <cool_dude> no info :(
[17:14] <ikonia> right, so thats the file type, data
[17:14] <xorpad> hey guys, how can I make x11vnc start when I log in(I have auto login) and restart when it closes? should I make a systemd service or is there a better way?
[17:15] <xorpad> I need to run it as my user not root, and I know not to open the port on my router it's just for local network use
[17:15] <xorpad> I know vnc isn't secure over internet but i'm using only over home wifi
[17:15] <ikonia> xorpad: you can load it in a desktop session
[17:15] <ikonia> xorpad: the "startup apps" type thing
[17:16] <xorpad> ikonia, but it closes when you disconnect
[17:16] <xorpad> so it needs to restart every time it closes
[17:16] <cool_dude> https://prnt.sc/h6kaz3
[17:16] <xorpad> that way vnc server is always running
[17:16] <ikonia> cool_dude: what do you expect us to do with that ?
[17:16] <ikonia> cool_dude: when you disconnect, or when you log out
[17:16] <ikonia> cool_dude: oops, not you
[17:17] <ikonia> xorpad: when you disconnect or log out
[17:17] <xorpad> ikonia, either one
[17:17] <ikonia> xorpad: they are both different behaviour, hence why I'm asking
[17:17] <MarkB2> tomreyn: I'd say it's a package bug, all right.  The index.html file has only references over the web while the directory and sub-dirs are full of the material I need.  <groan>
[17:17] <xorpad> it's a one-time session command meant for creating adhoc sessions on headless servers but it can also connect to your desktop x instance instead of a headless one
[17:18] <ikonia> xorpad: what ?
[17:18] <xorpad> it's doesn't come configured to use as anything more that a one-shot connection
[17:18] <ikonia> xorpad: I know what vnc is
[17:18] <xorpad> ikonia, i mean x11vnc
[17:18] <ikonia> xorpad: I'm trying to understand your usecase and understand if your problem is on disconnect or log out, as they are different behaviour
[17:18] <xorpad> the tool
[17:18] <ikonia> xorpad: right, I know what it is
[17:18] <xorpad> oh okay
[17:19] <UsQUE> anyone know of solution which clones your local folder to cloud drive and encrypts this data?  Kind offsite backup solution :)
[17:19] <cool_dude> encrypts ?
[17:19] <xorpad> well, my usecase is having vnc always running connected to my desktop x instance, and then I can use it to run a x session which I can use IDE on my compiling box, because x forwarding isn't fast enough
[17:19] <ikonia> UsQUE: most of the cloud providers "cloud drives" do that
[17:19] <xorpad> vnc is very less latency than x forwarding
[17:19] <ikonia> xorpad: I'm not intersted what you do in the vnc session
[17:20] <xorpad> ikonia, you asked what my usecase was
[17:20] <xorpad> that's why I said that
[17:20] <ikonia> xorpad: I've asked 2 - 3 times, do you have the problem when you disconnect or log out, as they are both different events
[17:20] <xorpad> basically I need something with more responsiveness and faster frame update rate than ssh x forwarding
[17:20] <xorpad> ikonia, I answered both
[17:20] <xorpad> you must have missed my answer
[17:21] <ikonia> xorpad: logging out of the X11 session, or logging out of the remote desktop / vnc session
[17:21] <UsQUE> ikonia, it encryptes to other but does it also encrypt the data so the provider himself can't read it? :)
[17:21] <cool_dude> xorpad
[17:21] <xorpad> ikonia, of the vnc session
[17:21] <ikonia> xorpad: what does the logs on the remote host show happening to that session
[17:21] <cool_dude> why don’t you say what are try to archive you will possible get better solution
[17:21] <xorpad> ikonia, when I disconnect or log out of vnc, x11vnc closes
[17:22] <cool_dude> xorpad ^^
[17:22] <xorpad> ikonia, it shows it closes with return value 0
[17:22] <xorpad> no error
[17:22] <xorpad> if i log out
[17:22] <ikonia> xorpad: what about if you disconnect
[17:22] <xorpad> if I disconnect, it gives error value instrad of 0
[17:22] <ikonia> xorpad: what error value
[17:22] <ikonia> (or message)
[17:22] <xorpad> ikonia, I don't know, want me to try it now and see?
[17:23] <ikonia> xorpad: wouldn't hurt
[17:24] <lorddoskias> hello following a hard reboot when ubuntu boots my apple keyboard doesn't work and the graphics is using very small resolution, If however i boot into recovery mode and from there i choose to continue booting normally graphics works  as expected and my kbd is detected
[17:24] <xorpad> I'm gonna have to disconnect for a minute, when I use kill to kill the vnc session it sends a kill signal instead of terminating the process
[17:25] <ikonia> xorpad: whoaa
[17:25] <ikonia> xorpad: why are you killing it
[17:25] <ikonia> you're not using disconnect ?
[17:25] <xorpad> ikonia, I'm trying to see what error if I disconnect instead of log out
[17:25] <ikonia> xorpad: yes, so why are you killing it
[17:25] <xorpad> but i realized I can't kill the connection for a while because I'm pushing a massive git repo
[17:26] <xorpad> ikonia, to trigger a disconnect without logout
[17:26] <xorpad> but i realized I can't right now
[17:26] <ikonia> xorpad: then just wait
[17:26] <ikonia> xorpad: is there no "disconnect" option in the menu ?
[17:26] <ikonia> is if you kill it, it will die
[17:26] <xorpad> ikonia, I'll check that now
[17:26] <ikonia> as it will terminate the session and the server end will take the OOPS now
[17:27] <xorpad> is there a way to force kill to kill without sending a signal to terminate to the process?
[17:27] <ikonia> why are you trying to kill it ?
[17:27] <ikonia> you should be disconnecting
[17:27] <ikonia> not killing
[17:28] <xorpad> disconnecting closes without error, I already know/said that (not trying to be rude i'm thinkful you are helping)
[17:28] <ikonia> xorpad: no, you said "logging out"
[17:28] <ikonia> not disconnecting
[17:28] <ikonia> thats why I asked you to clarify
[17:29] <xorpad> diconnecting from the client is logging out
[17:29] <__Myst__> What's the difference between apt pgrade and apt full-upgrade
[17:29] <xorpad> it closes the session properly
[17:29] <__Myst__> ?
[17:29] <xorpad> there is no option to terminate the connection forcefully
[17:29] <cool_dude> other then file command to get info about file
[17:29] <ikonia> xorpad: no, thats "logging out" from the client
[17:29] <xorpad> unless I'm missing something
[17:29] <ikonia> xorpad: you can disconnect the session, think of it as screen for X11
[17:30] <ikonia> although your client is the trigger for it, so maybe the client is the issue ?
[17:30] <xorpad> maybe it is
[17:30] <xorpad> I'm using tigervnc
[17:30] <ikonia> Tiger used to be ok for me, but I've not used it in a while
[17:31] <hggdh> __Myst__: upgrade will not remove installed packages. This means if an upgradable package requires removal of an already installed (other) package, then this operation will not be performed
[17:31] <hggdh> __Myst__: full-upgrade will do it.
[17:31] <__Myst__> hggdh: when might that be the case?
[17:31] <xorpad> it's fine, the problem is that x11vnc has never and i don't know if it supports, consecutive sessions
[17:31] <xorpad> so after one session the command must be issued again
[17:31] <hggdh> __Myst__: on kernelupgrades, for example
[17:31] <ioria> xorpad, -forever -loop
[17:31] <ikonia> xorpad: I've disconnected from X11vnc and reconnected in the past without issue
[17:31] <xorpad> screw it, i should just do a systemd service
[17:31] <ikonia> xorpad: I've never had the need for multiple users using it
[17:32] <ikonia> xorpad: thats not the way to do it, more so if you want it to be tied to your user for auto login
[17:32] <generic> how can I setup multiple terminals on multiple screens?
[17:32] <ioria> xorpad, x11vnc can be started  in different ways
[17:32] <xorpad> I do want it tied to my auto login user, but you can specify which user runs the command, I just need to make it wait until the desktop session starts
[17:33] <xorpad> ioria, is there a way to start it so it alwasy reloads after logout/diconnect?
[17:33] <ikonia> xorpad: desktop starting != user logged in fully
[17:33] <ioria> xorpad, To set x11vnc to continually listen for connections, include the -forever option.
[17:34] <xorpad> ikonia, but it means x11vnc can see the x server and connect to it, and that the netwowk will be up very soon, so it will achieve what I need
[17:34] <ioria> xorpad, and -loop
[17:34] <xorpad> ioria, okay thanks
[17:34] <ioria> xorpad, ok
[17:34] <xorpad> I still need a systemd service to start it though... unless lxde has a better way to start it
[17:35] <ioria> xorpad, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc
[17:35] <xorpad> thanks ioria for link
[17:35] <ioria> xorpad, check also the systemd startup script
[17:35] <generic> I wanna setup multiple screens without xorg
[17:36] <ioria> xorpad,  and tiger it's no more in the repos
[17:37] <xorpad> generic, You need a graphical server, the non-graphical vga text mode on most gpu's as a buffer of data
[17:38] <xorpad> You could program them if you had the graphics driver source to initalize multiple buffers for multiple screens and make a command-line tool or bash extension to switch which display has your keyboards focus
[17:38] <generic> xorpad: I want one screen as x and the other one as console
[17:39] <xorpad> would require modding the kernel, and your gpu driver... but it wouldn't be a huge job, you COULD make an x11 server and use a terminal based window manager that only tiles terminals
[17:39] <xorpad> not make x11 server, use one
[17:39] <xorpad> there is window managers that only consist of tiled terminals and keyboard shortcuts for interacting with them
[17:40] <xorpad> Actually, I think I'll add multiple monitor support in text mode to nouveau
[17:40]  * xorpad adds to list of things to code
[17:42] <alkisg> xorpad, generic, also have a look at x2go instead of vnc
[17:42] <generic> why nouveaux? you don't need nouveau to run textmode...
[17:43] <generic> xorpad: I'd wanna run it on amd too
[17:43] <xorpad> generic, because you need to add multiple monitor support to a graphics driver for text mode, as none have support for this, and since i nvidia cards, I use the in-kernel nouveau drivers. there is ZERO way to get text output on multiple screens with the generic vga compatible graphics driver of linux
[17:44] <xorpad> I use amd for cpu nvidia for gpu
[17:44] <xorpad> I prefer nvidia because I think CUDA is much nicer to work with than OpenCL and I've done a bit of GPGPU coding over the years
[17:45] <xorpad> opencl is barren, it has no set of standard libraries, CUDA offers a much more rich environment for build gpu kernels
[17:45] <generic> xorpad: zero way? that sounds f*cked
[17:46] <nadio> Hello I am trying to install mysql-connector-net and it should be in artful repo, but for some reason it doesnt show up https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/artful/mysql-connector-net
[17:46] <nadio> anyone got an idea what could be going wrong ?
[17:46] <ikonia> generic: please don't swear
[17:46] <ikonia> there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[17:46] <xorpad> generic, it uses a vga compatibility mode for VGA standard that was used with 386 systems for the video card
[17:46] <tomreyn> nadio: what makes you think it should be in artful?
[17:47] <nadio> tomreyn: if you look at the page I sent, it says its in artful.
[17:47] <tomreyn> nadio: right, you pointed to a source package, which is in artful
[17:47] <xorpad> that standard only allows one screen because multiple monitors on one video card was unheard of back then and no operating system supported it even if you had multiple video cards each with monitors
[17:48] <tomreyn> nadio: if you read the page, it also says which binary packages are built from this source package
[17:48] <nadio> tomreyn: I cant find it with apt search on my system, even thought artful should be there
[17:48] <xorpad> we're talking about using a backwards compatibility feature from the 80's
[17:48] <generic> xorpad: I have dual head vga cards there must be a way
[17:48] <nadio> ah tomreyn yes I see it
[17:48] <tomreyn> nadio: so you are on 17.10? and have source package repositories enabled?
[17:49] <hggdh> nadio: you want the binaries, or the source?
[17:49] <nadio> hggdh: the binary
[17:49] <xorpad> generic, not unless you modify your UEFI firmwares i386 compatibility mode code and then write the kernel modules and drivers
[17:49] <hggdh> nadio: look at the top of the page. The binary packages have different names
[17:49] <tomreyn> well then install one or more of the binary packages
[17:49] <nadio> tomreyn: Description:    Ubuntu 17.10
[17:49] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.
[17:50] <tomreyn> !17.10
[17:50] <generic> xorpad: what if I install a 2nd card for textmode?
[17:50] <xorpad> and by modify you uefi firmware compatibility mode, I mean reverse engineer it, modify it, and then flash it and hope your motherboard doesn't brick
[17:51] <xorpad> generic, you can't. the support is in the UEFI firmware for ONE AND ONLY ONE vga text mode buffer in memory
[17:51] <nadio> ok hggdh tomreyn so the first 3 packages are built from in and package differently but still got the same functionality of mysql connect ? if I understand it correctly ?
[17:51] <nadio> just a different name
[17:51] <xorpad> it's literally a feature of every BIOS to have a text mode buffer at a standard location, which you can write to to change characters on the screen
[17:51] <generic> xorpad: I'm using bios...
[17:52] <xorpad> generic, well, then your bios is doing the same thing uefi would in compatibity mode
[17:52] <generic> xorpad: 0x900000 if I remember correctly
[17:52] <xorpad> the bios creates an area of ram(2000 bytes) at 0x0B8000, and the generic text mode display driver writes to it, and the bios puts that on the screen
[17:52] <hggdh> nadio: since I do not know what mysql-connect is expected to do, I cannot answer. All I know, from looking at the page, is that building the cource package mysql-connector-net generates a -dev, a library, and a doc packages
[17:53] <tomreyn> nadio: you can inspect their contents.
[17:53] <tomreyn> "list of files"
[17:53] <xorpad> generic, I know that's wrong, I THINK it's 0x0B8000
[17:53] <xorpad> if not, it's a very similar number to that i just posted
[17:53] <generic> xorpad: but then we're running protected mode here
[17:53] <xorpad> generic, you can switch modes at will
[17:54] <xorpad> you can drop to 16 bit mode, write to the buffer, then escalate back to protected mode
[17:54] <tomreyn> xorpad, generic: could you move on to #ubuntu-offtopic unless one of you has any ubuntu related support needs?
[17:54] <xorpad> you can also allow access to protected memory when modifying the kernel which you need for what you want, because the kernel tells the MMU what to do
[17:54] <generic> xorpad: linux is running protected mode... no switching. that means that no bios code is running
[17:55] <xorpad> tomreyn, I'll just shut up, it doesn't seem like I'm making any point to him anyways
[17:55] <tomreyn> nor that it belongs here
[17:55] <xorpad> well, it started out as a ubuntu user question and drifted to another topic it wasn't intentional
[17:55] <xorpad> but I'm done trying to convince him
[17:55] <generic> xorpad: I still don't get it 😣
[17:56] <xorpad> and you won't without decades of programming experience, lets leave it alone, if you really want me to keep explaining pm me
[18:02] <cool_dude> hi i want run script on start/restart
[18:04] <cool_dude> need more info ?
[18:07] <_ppp> guys, how can i add a command to be displayed when i press the window button and search for it ?
[18:07] <_ppp> that panel dashboard
[18:07] <_ppp> it works fine if i run it from command line but need to add it to the dashboard when i press window key
[18:07] <cool_dude> have a script like (example) a bash script that will run command “ apt-get update “ when system starts restarts
[18:08] <_ppp> hein?
[18:12] <mcphail> cool_dude: lots of ways to do this. I find the easiest thing is to create a cron job with the time set to "@reboot"
[18:13] <cool_dude> i am okay with hardway but i need rock solid way
[18:13] <cool_dude> proccess should start for sure
[18:16] <emmeci> why my  ubuntu server 16.4, installed into a VM with gnome-boxes, is stuck syaoing "booting from hard disk"? I forgot some setting?
[18:22] <LordDoskias> on ubuntu 17.10 with 2 monitors in "joined mode" and the one being flipped to the left i can see th emouse on both monitors when it goes to the second one
[18:26] <nadio> Will Fedora 27 repository work in Ubuntu 17.10 ?
[18:27] <emmeci> nadio no, because Fedora use rpm and ubuntu use .deb packages
[18:27] <xorpad> you can get a tool to convert rpm to deb, I forget the name of the tool but when I used it long ago it was in the ubuntu repository
[18:27] <xorpad> just google "ubuntu convert .rpm to .deb"
[18:28] <xorpad> should find you that tool or another one to do the same job
[18:28] <EriC^^> !info alien
[18:28] <xorpad> thanks EriC^^
[18:29] <EriC^^> np
[18:29] <xorpad> I think that was the one I used
[18:31] <sm0rux> OK... probably I made a huge mistake... I hade problems with Pidgin. I uninstalled Pidgin (apt purge pidgin) and deleted a lot of
[18:31] <sm0rux> files connected to Pidgin. When I install Pidgin again (apt install pidgin) everything works well except that I have deleted some (all?)
[18:31] <sm0rux> icon files - and they are not installed when I reinstall Pidgin.
[18:31] <sm0rux> How can this be solved?
[18:33] <oerheks> sm0rux, maybe you need to logout/login again to restore those icons
[18:33] <sm0rux> Thanks, will try that
[18:34] <thaurwylth> Hey guys, is the adjusting of swappiness still a thing? And if you have really big RAM's, what kind of swappiness do you use?
[18:36] <sm0rux> oerheks: Sorry, that doesn't help
[18:36] <oerheks> thaurwylth, depends what you want, hybernate/sleep or not, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:37] <thaurwylth> That is where I concieved the question from.
[18:37] <thaurwylth> I mean parts of that have been written in 2012, thus the 'is this still a thing' part.
[18:38] <oerheks> thaurwylth, SwapFaq (last edited 2017-03-13) .. no, swappiness is not an issue
[18:39] <thaurwylth> And also since the biggest RAM's in typical use are now much much bigger than five years ago I was interested whether people have turned the swappiness parameter lower.
[18:44] <alkisg> typically swap is not used, so noone cares about swappiness :D
[18:47] <emmeci> today, with a >4GB of RAm, the swap is now useless
[18:48] <thaurwylth> That sounds reasonable.
[18:49] <oerheks> today, swap is not useless.
[19:00] <antg85> evening all
[19:00] <antg85> I'm having an absolute nightmare apt today I've completely buggered up apt so when I do anything all I see is dev ant # apt-get update 0% [Connecting to nginx.org (206.251.255.63)] [Connecting to ftp.heanet.ie ....
[19:00] <antg85> any ideas how to fix that
[19:02] <alkisg> antg85: does this work for you? `wget ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/debian/README -O -`
[19:02] <antg85> yep alkisg
[19:02] <alkisg> antg85: have you configured apt to use some proxy?
[19:03] <antg85> no I don't think so
[19:03] <antg85> how would I check
[19:03] <Richard_Cavell> When I hit the F12 key in Ubuntu 16.04, I get a command window of some sort.  Is this a bash shell?
[19:04] <alkisg> antg85:  So the problem is that when you run apt-get update, it hangs and doesn't download anything? Did you try changing to another mirror, by running `software-properties-gtk` ?
[19:04] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: is this ubuntu mate?
[19:05] <auronandace> antg85: have you added various PPAs?
[19:05] <Richard_Cavell> alkisg: Yes
[19:05] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: yes it's a pull-down terminal called tilda
[19:06] <Richard_Cavell> ok
[19:06] <Richard_Cavell> it's there for convenience, I suppose
[19:06] <alkisg> Yes but I think they removed it by default in later versions
[19:06] <alkisg> People didn't use it very much
[19:06] <Richard_Cavell> Well my concern is that I like to use MAME and I want to use F12 for screenshots but tilda is intercepting the F12
[19:07] <antg85> I've emptied my sources list
[19:07] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: it's in .config/autostart, you can remove it so that it doesn't autostart
[19:07] <antg85> alkisg: is there way to do that by cmd line
[19:08] <alkisg> antg85: you emptied your sources.list? Then where will it download the packages from?
[19:09] <Richard_Cavell> alkisg: Which directory is it?  My ~/.config/autostart doesn't have it
[19:09] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: ls ~/.config/autostart
[19:09] <alkisg> What's the output?
[19:09] <Richard_Cavell> dropbox.desktop
[19:09] <Richard_Cavell> And that's all
[19:10] <alkisg> That's strange. Tilda uses /etc/skel/.config/autostart/tilda.desktop to install to ~/.config/autostart.
[19:11] <antg85> ah ha so sources.d was complicating matters which I've no  emptied
[19:11] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: run this: mate-session-properties. Do you see it there?
[19:12] <antg85> my sources list now has ``` deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main```
[19:12] <antg85> however its still hanging
[19:12] <antg85> cd
[19:13] <antg85>  dev ~ # apt-get update 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.161)]
[19:13] <alkisg> antg85: put the output of this to paste.ubuntu.com: apt-get update -o Debug::acquire::http=true
[19:14] <Richard_Cavell> alkisg: Yes. I've unchecked it. Is that enough?
[19:14] <alkisg> Richard_Cavell: yes, it should be enough
[19:14]  * Richard_Cavell reboots to see
[19:20] <Richard_Cavell> alkisg: That worked, thanks.
[19:20] <alkisg> np :)
[19:49] <V7> Hey all :)
[19:49] <V7> Please ... could you test there: xset -q | grep -A 0 'LED' | cut -c59-67 ( with changing keyboard layout (language) ) and tell us the result ( is it shows different output
[19:49] <V7> ) >
[19:49] <V7> ?
[19:51] <ikonia> you test it
[19:52] <V7> Already
[19:52] <V7> I need to know if it work in Ubuntu
[19:52] <V7> Ofc ... if you have some time
[19:52] <ikonia> run it in ubuntu then and test it
[19:53] <hggdh> it works, but you do not need -A0
[19:53] <ikonia> you've asked this in 3 linux channels
[19:54] <ikonia> this appears to be nothing to do with ubuntu based o the channels you're asking it in
[19:54] <ikonia> if you want to test it in ubuntu, install ubuntu / use a livecd and test it
[19:55] <drmessano> "use a livecd and test it"  ++++1
[19:55] <drmessano> In the 6 mins since you asked, you could have done exactly this..
[19:56] <drmessano> If you're doing a thing, and need to test it, use Live CDs on your own boxes
[20:01] <Cypher100> oh hi
[20:09] <algid> what is the simplest way to propagate a file to various machines at intervals?
[20:09] <algid> via cron
[20:10] <algid> maybe just ftp i guess
[20:10] <ikonia> rsync ?
[20:10] <ikonia> config management
[20:10] <algid> just one file
[20:10] <ikonia> distributed file systems ?
[20:10] <ikonia> loads of options, depends on the use case
[20:10] <algid> that needs to be standardized to various other machines
[20:11] <algid> just a small text / script file
[20:36] <Richard_Cavell> I've heard that there's a keyboard shortcut to make a Terminal beep. Does anyone know about that?
[20:38] <kk4ewt> used to be control g would do it
[20:59] <Anticom> Hey anyone using visual studio code for web development? I've got a launch.json on my ubuntu matchine that specifies a configuration with type:chrome. Now my problem is that i've only got chromium-browser intsalled instead of chrome and visual studio code won't find chromium
[20:59] <Anticom> I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[21:02] <alkisg> Anticom: I don't think visual studio is supported in #ubuntu, but would a symlink from chrome to chromium-browser work?
[21:03] <Anticom> alkisg: hm probably but sound's like rather dirty fix. Sadly i wasn't able to find anything by googling arround
[21:03] <Anticom> but it's gotta be configured somewhree
[21:03] <Anticom> wait i think i've found somthing
[21:05] <ikonia> Anticom: how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[21:05] <J3089TE> is this an ipv6 address? [::1]:80
[21:05] <ikonia> J3089TE: yes, localhost
[21:05] <J3089TE> how do I disable  ipv6? it is causing me a lot of trouble
[21:06] <ikonia> how is it causing you trouble
[21:06] <Richard_Cavell>  Does anyone here know - if I take a snapshot using F12 inside MAME (installed from the repo on Ubuntu 16.04), where do the snapshots go?
[21:06] <ikonia> especially on localhost
[21:06] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: look in the mame config
[21:06] <ikonia> it's defined along with cabs, sounds, roms, etc
[21:06] <alkisg> J3089TE: go to network manager connection editor, ipv6 tab, and disable it or check local net only
[21:09] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia: In $HOME/.mame/mame.ini, I found snapshot_directory which is equal to $HOME/.mame/snap and that dir didn't exist so I created it.  But F12 within MAME does not save anything there.
[21:10] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: you may need to restart (I don't know for sure) to pickup
[21:10] <ikonia> mame only scans at certain points in time (for roms and scans etc)
[21:10] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: also check the permissions too
[21:10] <kostkon> Richard_Cavell, see if there's a mame folder inside your "snap" folder. You should have a "snap" folder since you've installed the mame snap
[21:10] <ikonia> kostkon: where did he said he'd installed a mame snap?
[21:11] <tpgillam> Hi all. I'm having a very strange (and annoying) problem, that was present in 17.04 but seems to have got a lot worse in 17.10. I  described it in some detail here (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2369750), but in a nutshell the entire display freezes (i.e. no new frames are rendered) when switching from typing 'letters' to 'symbols'. In 17.10 this latency is worse, the display doesn't start refreshing until a c
[21:11] <tpgillam> ouple of seconds after typing ceases. Some key observations: this happens in Gnome only, no other DE; also Gnome classic (compiz/metacity) is unaffected. Both Xorg and Wayland backends are affected in the same way. I have an nVidia chipset, but this occurs regardless of the driver that is used. I can track keypresses with xev to see that they are *not* delayed in being registered; one can tell that the whole display cease
[21:11] <Richard_Cavell> I have $HOME/.mame/snap (which I created) and it does not contain a mame folder
[21:11] <tpgillam> s to refresh since any UI element (e.g. video running in webbrowser) also freezes. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks very much!
[21:11] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: it shouldn't contain anything, you've just created it
[21:11] <kostkon> ikonia, oh right, snapshot.. my bad
[21:12] <ikonia> kostkon: no big deal, thought I'd missed a bit of info there
[21:12] <Anticom> ikonia: thought chromium-browser would be common for ubuntu users
[21:12] <ikonia> Anticom: how is this anything to do with chromium ?
[21:13] <ikonia> Anticom: have I missed the actual question behind the question
[21:13] <Anticom> similar to how the nodejs binary is called node instead of nodejs unlike in other distros
[21:13] <Anticom> ikonia: i think VSC seems to have a configuration for type:chrome which actually tells it what binary to use
[21:13] <Anticom> and since it's called chromium-browser instead of chrome it might not find the binary
[21:13] <Anticom> so launching the browser fails
[21:14] <Anticom> however you *can* configure it with "runtimeExecutable" option
[21:14] <ikonia> Anticom: chromium-browser is different to chrome
[21:14] <Anticom> ikonia: i know, that's why i prefer it ;)
[21:15] <ikonia> Anticom: then what are you asking ?
[21:16] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia: I fixed it with help from #mame. The answer is just... mkdir $HOME/.mame/snap and then hit F12 inside MAME.
[21:16] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: you said that'swhat you had already done
[21:17] <Richard_Cavell> Yep. I couldn't get it to work though because I have an iMac with an idiosyncratic keyboard
[21:17] <Anticom> ikonia: because i've found the solution after asking, sorry
[21:18] <kubunted> kubuntu is awful. new windows 95. linux has been officially dead.
[21:18] <akik> well that was a zero value comment
[21:18] <ikonia> ignore
[21:19] <ikonia> move on
[21:22] <Toadisattva> wow archive manager is incredibly slow compared to using command line to unzip/unrar/7z
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> Toadisattva  it's also faster to install something
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> it = cli
[21:29] <TheNH813> What happened to fridge.ubuntu.com/node/feed?
[21:29] <TheNH813> It returns a HTTP 404.
[21:30] <Milhouse> Can anyone tell me when the following started crashing? It core dumps in 17.10 which I've just clean installed, was fine in 16.04:find /tmp -printf '%A+'
[21:30] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.
[21:30] <TheNH813> Toadisattva: It's slow because it indexes all the files before processing them.
[21:30] <Milhouse> uh... no edit in #irc... this is the test case: find /tmp -printf '%A+'
[21:30] <TheNH813> So you can navigate the archive befroe extrating it.
[21:30] <TheNH813> Does it work to access a existing AP?
[21:31] <TheNH813> Milhouse: That sounds like it could be a bug.
[21:32] <TheNH813> I'v not really used those kind of parameters before, so I'm not 100% certain, but if it worked before and it's broke now, I'd call it a bug.
[21:32] <TheNH813> Unless some new security restriction interferes with it.
[21:33] <TheNH813> But /tmp should be global read write
[21:33] <TheNH813> c0untch0cula: Are you able to access existing WiFi access points?
[21:34] <Milhouse> @TheNH813 yes I'll file it on launchpad, just wondered if anyone here could test it on 16.10 or 17.04 - it works in 16.04, crashes in 17.10
[21:34] <TheNH813> I'm on 16.04, and can confirm it outputs some results.
[21:34] <Ben64> 16.10 is dead, doesn't matter. 17.04 is dead soon
[21:35] <TheNH813> I'm not going to install 17.10 anyway, I'm waiting for 18.04 LTS.
[21:36] <Milhouse> yes, just interested to see when it might have been introduced, that's all
[21:36] <Ben64> what does %A+ do
[21:36] <TheNH813> Or maybe I'l push it all the way to EOL and hold out until 20.04.
[21:37] <TheNH813> Because 16.04 is supported until 2021
[21:37] <Milhouse> @Ben64 it outputs the access timestamp for files in human readable format
[21:37] <TheNH813> Ben64: I don't know either. But it seems to print really accurate timestamps.
[21:38] <Milhouse> try: find /tmp -printf '%A+\n' (on a working system - you should get a list of dates)
[21:38] <TheNH813> Allright that's just cool. I need to learn more about these things.
[21:38] <alkisg> Milhouse: in 16.10, this landed: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/PIEByDefaultTransition
[21:39] <alkisg> Maybe it caused that issue...
[21:39] <alkisg> (which would be a bug in find, of course)
[21:39] <Milhouse> possibly, it's almost certainly a bug in whatever package find comes from
[21:40] <Milhouse> i'm about to give up on launchpad, can't find where to open a new bug...
[21:40] <alkisg> $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/find
[21:40] <alkisg> findutils: /usr/bin/find
[21:40] <Milhouse> thanks
[21:41] <Milhouse> aha https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/findutils/+bug/1722528
[21:43] <alkisg> Yeah looks like a small buffer for the internal formatting string
[21:45] <Milhouse> looks like it's already fixed upstream http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?51841
[21:45] <alkisg> Yeah, and this is the new compiler flag that caused it to show up in recent releases and not before: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#DEB_BUILD_HARDENING_FORTIFY_.28gcc.2Fg.2B-.2B-_-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE.3D2.29
[22:21] <MWM> Any Mac users in here?  My question is about how to get Ubuntu to do something I think is an Apple thing....
[22:21] <MWM> https://www.utest.com/articles/using-folder-actions-on-os-x-to-automate-handbrake specifically number 3 on this page
[22:24] <oerheks> one can 'watch' a folder, and run a script.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/893019/monitor-folder-and-run-command-if-there-is-a-file-there
[22:25] <MWM> looks to be what I was looking for.  Thank you
[22:26] <oerheks> incrontab, inotify .. many ways to do such action
[22:44] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.
[22:44] <c0untch0cula> is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty.
[22:46] <ikonia> c0untch0cula: a.) is it supported by linux b.) what is the driver it needs ?
[22:55] <joelkraehemann> hi all
[22:59] <c0untch0cula> ikonia, yeah its supported by linux.
[23:00] <ikonia> c0untch0cula: ok ? so what's the issue with it ?
[23:00] <c0untch0cula> i have the driver file, but its not installing right
[23:00] <c0untch0cula> my dongle works, but AP mode doesnt run correctly
[23:00] <ikonia> "not installing right" ?
[23:00] <ikonia> what does that mean
[23:01] <c0untch0cula> i did sudo make, and it ran but had a few errors at the end,
[23:01] <ikonia> so it's not "built" then
[23:01] <c0untch0cula> sudo make install had errors too
[23:01] <ikonia> why would you run make install, if make failed
[23:01] <c0untch0cula> idk!
[23:01] <ikonia> you'd be installing a broken thing
[23:01] <ikonia> or installing "nothing" as it didn't build
[23:02] <c0untch0cula> ok well idk
[23:02] <ikonia> ?
[23:02] <ikonia> you're the one typing, but you don't know why you typed it
[23:02] <c0untch0cula> https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u
[23:03] <ikonia> what do you want me to do with that ?
[23:04] <ikonia> c0untch0cula: what version of the linux kernel are you running ?
[23:07] <_Dejavu> Evening, good fellas. I've removed a few old kernels to make an update (was no space on /boot) and now my wifi speed is 10x slower than it supposed to be. I've googled around but can't find anything that works. Lenovo T400, 4.4.0-98-generic. Please advise.
[23:07] <ikonia> _Dejavu: removing kernels that are not in use won't impact your wifi speed
[23:08] <_Dejavu> ikonia: thats strange... it happened right after that reboot
[23:09] <oerheks> _Dejavu, unlikely related to kernel removal, did you try to restart your wifirouter?
[23:10] <oerheks> or other users heavily using network
[23:10] <_Dejavu> oerheks: I have, but i have normal speed on my other devices
[23:14] <oerheks> So you tried to update, failed, removed old kernels, and updated again? you could roll back with the previous kernel, to see if this helps..
[23:16] <_Dejavu> oerheks: i've removed a few old kernels and successfully updated to 4.4.0-98, rebooted and thats when i noticed the speed issue
[23:19] <TJ-> _Dejavu: does "iwconfig" show invalids, or excessive retries ?
[23:21] <_Dejavu> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899215/
[23:21] <joelkraehemann> what about dist-upgrade to bionic?
[23:22] <oerheks> joelkraehemann, go for it, support in #ubuntu+1
[23:22] <TJ-> _Dejavu: right, that confirms it. Which device is it? Does this report anything? "lspci -nnk -d ::0280"
[23:24] <_Dejavu> TJ-: lspci: -d: Invalid device ID
[23:25] <joelkraehemann> the swiss ubuntu mirror is quiet slow :/
[23:26] <TJ-> _Dejavu: OK, maybe that PC has a different device class for it's wifi. Let's see "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[23:27] <_Dejavu> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899245/
[23:28] <TJ-> _Dejavu: so it's the 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:4236]
[23:30] <TJ-> _Dejavu: iwlwifi has had a reputation of these kind of issues *especially* in 802.11gn. There's a workaround that limits it to 802.11g (54Mbps) using the module option "11n_disable"
[23:30] <TJ-> _Dejavu: You might find installed one of the HWE kernels will solve it; recent kernels don't have the same problem
[23:31] <TJ-> !hwe | _Dejavu
[23:31] <TJ-> Grrr
[23:32] <TJ-> _Dejavu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:32] <_Dejavu> TJ-: reading...
[23:33] <TJ-> _Dejavu: I'm using linux-lowlatency-hwe-edge to get the 4.13 kernel from linux-lowlatency-hwe-16.04-edge
[23:37] <_Dejavu> TJ-: brother, play with me a little more. I still don't get it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/25899298/
[23:38] <TJ-> _Dejavu: is that ubuntu 14.04 Trusty ?
[23:39] <_Dejavu> TJ-: 14.04 is what I have. or i need stacks from 16.04 ?
[23:41] <TJ-> _Dejavu: sory; I thought it was 16.04 where the HWE kernel versions go up to the very recent 4.13.
[23:51] <_Dejavu> TJ-: sorry, got disconnected
[23:51] <TJ-> _Dejavu: sory; I thought it was 16.04 where the HWE kernel versions go up to the very recent 4.13.
[23:52] <TJ-> _Dejavu: I suggest you test with a recent mainline kernel for v4.13, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds