[00:00] also just got a sim for my OPO, finally can start using it as a daily driver and see where things fall over if at all [00:00] @lazypower, Looking at some traffic atm. I see DNS queries to dash.ubuntu.com, login.ubuntu.com, daisy.ubuntu.com, start.ubuntu.com [00:01] login makes sense. daisy is the apport service. start is... the homepage [00:01] Nice! [00:02] idk why we are using start though. why not ship with a tiny html page on device [00:02] Dash is services related to the Unity dash and default aps [00:02] unless that is some kind of XHR schenanigans on post [00:04] i seem to remember something about start possibly being used to check for a valid internet connection [00:04] ah that makes sense [00:05] @ahayzen, yes, it GETs /connectivity-check.html [00:06] yey 😊 [00:10] @Milan Korecky, I know. It's not working yet but in near future worked. [00:12] @Stereofont, For each DNS there are around three RST TCP handshakes in 10s interval [00:12] @Jaume81, Yes once will be available official update in OpenStore. That is just behind the door . [00:14] Btw, what "smartscopesclient" is supposed to do in unity-scopes-api? … I found it uses dash.ubuntu.com as well: … unity-scopes-api/src/scopes/internal/smartscopes/SmartScopesClient.cpp:static const std::string c_base_url = "https://dash.ubuntu.com/smartscopes/v2"; [00:18] (Photo, 960x540) https://irc.ubports.com/jvKpjFlE/file_1826.jpg [00:19] Captured directly on UT, stored in the encrypted Document folder ;) [00:19] The spikes are the email poll deamon [00:19] (dekko2) [00:22] 2000s live capture took 12% battery [00:56] video and voice calling working on uMatriks!!! :D [00:56] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/P2DP2qh9/file_1828.jpg [00:56] ignore the nasty desing :) [00:57] @mariogrip, Matrix? [00:57] @Dominik, Yes! [00:57] Nice! [00:57] @mariogrip, \o/ [01:20] !YAY! [01:21] @mariogrip, Updated: Oct 25, 2017, is this in the last update? [01:23] @popescu_sorin, huh? i took that screen shot for an hour ago ish [01:23] doing some design work right now [01:23] with some help of @PhoenixLandPirate [01:23] That's me! [01:24] yes i know :D [01:24] thanks! [01:24] @mariogrip, https://uappexplorer.com/app/umatriks.larreamikel [01:25] Basically: No, it's not updated. [01:25] @popescu_sorin, ah! i see, no it's not even on github yet [01:25] the app was last updated on 25, oct. i was just wandering if the video call stuff landed :P [01:25] ok :D thanks [01:25] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/4JKBScDr/file_1830.jpg [01:26] lots of tests :D [01:26] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/CBBPe0O7/file_1831.click [01:26] Yup, lots of tests x'D [01:27] "perfectly" — "unstable perfectly" [01:27] @mariogrip, This click is distributed without any form of warranty for damage to your Matrix account, local pets, or anything else [01:27] @UniversalSuperBox, +10 [01:27] You're welcome. ;) [01:27] @mariogrip, "I've never had a problem with this distribution" … "I fixed the driver problem" [01:28] my standard for working apps is if it's starts and it doesn't erase my hdd than it works :)) [01:28] @popescu_sorin, Lucky for you, a phone doesn't have a HDD :D [01:28] hdd/sdd/flash any kind of storing [01:28] i'll get the new design in place asap [01:29] yay [01:43] (Photo, 1280x959) https://irc.ubports.com/GZCO8DEu/file_1833.jpg [01:43] @PhoenixLandPirate, How else would you store data? [01:44] Damn it Dominik! You're inviting disaster! [01:44] @UniversalSuperBox, This [01:44] @Dominik, An SSD? [01:44] In other news, "Hell yeah our mobile OS supports SATA=USB adapters" [01:44] @Schyken, No, with spinning disk. Its better. [01:45] @Dominik, Eh [01:45] @Dominik, Though it das Anti-Skip protection for jogging [01:46] @UniversalSuperBox, Whew [01:48] @Dominik, X-)) [01:48] @Dominik, so you can relive your 90's memories of trying to use a discman while jogging, but with your flac's [01:48] ba dum psh [01:48] @Dominik, +1 ❤️ [01:52] @lazypower, Or have a full season of ALF in 4K [02:05] (Photo, 1280x454) https://irc.ubports.com/poy0YbJn/file_1835.jpg Ok, the QQC2 Suru style starts to look pretty decent. Time to sleep now \o/ [02:06] oooooooh [02:07] @sverzegnassi, OMG OMG OMG OMG!! [02:07] this is great! [02:09] Really? [02:10] Via dogsled, may be possible [02:10] what are you talking about [02:11] Oh. Reply super groups may not work. So you can just GUESS what I'm talking about buddy [02:11] @UniversalSuperBox, Calling @wayneoutthere ! [02:12] Um. Can people here just PM me news items? Hard for me to find. :) [02:12] voice and video calls working on uMatix [02:12] QQC2 suru style [02:13] (without warranty) [02:13] :D [02:13] Hmm. Sounds exciting... Is that that click above because no iodate via open store [02:13] And mobile SSD drives... for when you need that little extra storage on the go ;) [02:14] And new File Manager beta coming in the following days... :) [02:14] OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!1 [02:14] SO MANY NEWS!!!!! [02:15] Yes, until Christmas we're done! [02:15] (Sticker, 512x458) https://irc.ubports.com/pPHOr4tJ/file_1836.webp [02:16] No you're not done. This is the warm up. Now its time to start! [02:17] @sverzegnassi, Oooooo [02:17] Christmas is early Bois! [02:18] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/e8i6V4uP/file_1837.mp4 [02:23] @sverzegnassi, WOW :D [02:58] You can use the PS4 controller as a mouse and keyboard [02:59] @Dominik, :D [03:00] I configured the left stick as mouse movement. The right one is scrolling. L1/R1 is mouse left and right. [04:10] mileskjeller was added by: mileskjeller [04:11] Quick Query. I'm attempting to instal UBports onto my Nexus 5. However The standard installer doesn't even start (reboots phone to fastboot, then just sits there) and CPT claims to install the recovery image, but my phone reboots to TWRP [04:11] any thoughts? [04:26] Update, reflashed stock Android image, ran CPT again, recovery image failed to flash [04:34] manually flashed the recovery image from … `C:\Users\username\.cpt\cache\partitions\recovery.img` [04:34] now it's working [04:36] oh Windows [04:37] that thing has to die [04:37] glad you were able to resolve your issue [04:37] I hope you will enjoy UBports ☺️ [04:39] well, cpt detected the recovery, claimed to install ubuntu then the phone rebooted [04:39] there does not appear to be an OS installed [04:39] haha [04:43] is there still a place to get the zip file? [04:48] there is no flashable zip [04:48] as we're not an Android ROM [04:48] I can't help you as I don't know how to use Windows unfortunately [04:49] presumably the cpt tool is the same across the board [04:49] (Photo, 866x436) https://irc.ubports.com/UbVRgOJW/file_1839.jpg This is what's in my cache [04:49] in the Ubports Recovery it provides me an option to "install ubuntu zip" and the old wiki does make reference to it [04:50] Perhaps I should just spin up my mint VM and try it using snap [05:21] looks like I'll need to try it on linux metal. the way vmware handles usb seems to be screwing things up [05:21] VMware USB passthrough sucks [05:21] but that's for another day [05:22] xorpad especially as android devices change their device id depending on what mode they are in [05:22] I use kvm for virtualization, and the usb is much better than vmware but not perfect [05:23] kvm is best hypervisor imo [05:23] nothing beats running on metal. The issue I'm having here stems from the fact that the ubports universal installer doesn't seem to be working right inside windows [05:24] running on bare metal is good, but with KVM you can give access to bare metal components to the VM, and with hardware accelerated virtualization the performance is within 95% of bare metal, and with vt-d you can pass hardware device controls to the vms [05:25] I have a 1080 geforce that is connected to my windows vm, and another weaker 710 geforce for my display that my monitor shows [05:25] a friend of mine working in a corporate environment that swears by Hyper-V [05:25] Hyper-V is bad [05:26] It is immature which is probably why, when it's been getting developed for 15-20 years it will be able to compete with what we have now, but all the other hypervisors will have improved along with it so it won't catch up imo [05:26] him : "fite me" [05:26] hyper-v is garbage compared to kvm [05:26] windows implemented kvm in the windows linux subsystem and called it KWM [05:27] so not you can use something related to and using most of the code that supports KVM, on windows [05:27] but only windows 10 pro 64 bit [05:27] hmm... I should have tried the tool inside bash on windows. I do have cming set up [05:27] *xming [05:27] bash on windows is the windows linux subsystem [05:27] not sure how WSL handles USB passthrough though [05:28] it's not just bash, it's a linux kernel built to integrate with the windows 10 kernel, and it is a minimal install of ubuntu 16.04 that can do anything real bare-metal ubuntu can do, with the excepting of accessing block devices in /dev [05:28] you also can't update the kernel, since it's integrated into the windows 10 kernel [05:29] but ms calling it bash was stupid, they should have called it ubuntu shell or something [05:29] because I've had bash on windows for years, it doesn't mean I had linux compatibility, I just had a bash shell [05:30] well, i had many linux things on windows, including an x11 server that renders via win32 api [05:30] cygwin and xming, right? [05:30] and openssh with x11 forwarding enabled [05:30] modified cygwin [05:30] Do you remember the KDEWin project? [05:30] my own version, some of which is backported into cygwin because i submitted the code [05:30] no I do not [05:31] I ported a lot of stuff and gave it to cygwin, but I haven't maintained the packages in years [05:31] It was a project to port all the KDE components (including plasma) over to win32 executables [05:31] cool, sounds pointless lol [05:31] it was, but it let me run some kde apps I missed [05:32] I was using my linux ports to do things I needed linux for, but ported the stuff to windows instead [05:32] then i submitted a lot of it that cygwin didn't have, and they use it now, but I haven't maintained the packages in ages so I dunno if they are still the same version I submitted or if they updated... cygwin is bad at keeping current versions in their repositories [05:32] they are always behind a few versions because there is very few package maintainers [05:33] Do you think WSL will kill Cygwin? [05:34] Sidenote, WSL and Xming seem to choke on the UBports installer https://fox.scot/img/Xming_2017-11-06_05-33-33.png [05:34] Not unless they add virtualized access to devices through block devices in the file system [05:34] and make it stop hibernating when it doesn't recieve input [05:35] WSL is not as usable as cygwin for certain things, they will still both serve their purpose unless WSL adds /proc and /dev and /run and /sys population with abstracted access to real hardware, processes, system debugging block devices, etc [05:35] right now I use both, I can't use only one or the other and have all the functionality I need [05:35] but mostly I just use linux without windows [05:44] I fit into that "frustrated geek" demographic. I just want my computer to work. But I'll tinker with other things to pass time, to learn or when required [05:45] I hate to say that I couldn't use Linux as the daily driver on my main pc. I rely on Windows only software too much. It also lacks the frustration factor for me, hah [05:47] If you had KVM with PCIe passthrough to a good GPU, and a decent system, you could run windows in a VM with a dedicated GPU, dedicated SSD or HDD, dedicated lan or nat translation or bridged networking, you can even pass through a sound card [05:47] with a proper full KVM setup, you can have window and linux side-by-side [05:48] I have debian minimal installation with a slim kernel, and then on top of it in KVM i have windows 10 and lubuntu as VM's, windows 10 having it's own SSD, sound card, GPU, and bluetooth adapter [05:48] Yeah. I may do they done day with a proper rig [05:49] like, it's 90-95% as fast as just running windows 10 on bare metal [05:49] But it requires time, energy and money I don't have tight now [05:49] yeah you need a proper pc, and it needs iommu feature in the chipset, and VT-d along with VT-x to support the hardware passthrough [05:50] I have nice hardware, but I bought it on credit [05:50] so I'll be paying it off for a few years [05:50] Well, I bought it with borrowed money from myself technically, but I'm gonna put the money back over the next ~3 years [05:51] As long as you have a system for working it [05:51] working what? [05:52] 6am me knows what he's saying, but is currently unable to articulate it a different way [05:52] hehe [05:52] it's all good [05:52] basically I have awesome computers but I can't really afford them and bought them anyways lol [05:53] Either way. It's been good chatting with you. I'm going to attempt some sleep. [05:54] You have a good day, night, whatever your timezone is [05:54] good night [06:21] on UT how do you change default application for a specific file extension? would mimeapps.list work? [06:40] @KrisJacewicz, AFAIK media hub doesn't have default apps, but it makes the user decide based on info in the manifest file of each app. [Not by extension however iirc, but by categories (such as images, documents...)] [06:42] (Sticker, 512x315) https://irc.ubports.com/qEgmPnuY/file_1840 [06:43] so this is only designed for click? otherwise what else has manifest?? [06:50] Ishan KnowsNothing was added by: Ishan KnowsNothing [06:53] welcome Ishan [06:56] Thank you, @Xorpad [07:02] @Ishan KnowsNothing, Hello Ishan and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [07:03] @mileskjeller, With some delay but never is late. Hello Miles and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [07:11] VLC works on the phone, starts on the phone, audio works well, but the video freezes on a frame or lags terribly === grumble is now known as 17SAA0F42 [07:12] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/KbKLRZ8R/file_1842.png [07:12] (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/HDXTu9Nr/file_1844.jpg [07:12] (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/s6h2VF0q/file_1846.jpg [07:12] (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Tf5zkPEO/file_1848.jpg [07:13] I wonder if this is due to Xmir or due to VLC not being able to use hardware accelleration === 17SAA0F42 is now known as grumble [07:17] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/OLU8CKDY/file_1850.png [07:18] @flohack after 7 hours with the FP2 having zero use overnight but with aeroplane mode on, the charge went from 55% to 52% [07:20] @YougoChats, that message has literally 19 words, I don't get your comment [07:22] @sverzegnassi, iirc isn't smartscopes the "remote" ones like bbc, amazon etc. Which are just scope definitions in json (or something like that) that the scope runner then loads [07:23] @YougoChats, Heh! two most interesting things i see is progress on the qqc2 suru theme and voice and video calls working on umatriks [07:23] @KrisJacewicz, not specifically directed at your post, but more about the 1854 others befor it [07:24] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/lIuXiQ5h/file_1828.jpg [07:25] @YougoChats, i see, whoah, I thought it was reporting my message to be that long [07:26] @DanChapman, thanks. i guess going afk on a family weekend from a supergroup with 950 members does that to a post count [07:27] 😄 [07:27] just saw this, x86 apps running on arm: … https://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop/exagear-desktop-features-and-prices/ [07:28] @DanChapman, very nice. now i just need some people with matrix to talk to... [07:28] yeah i realy should try using it more. [07:30] @Stereofont, Thats strange then, see my screenshot, I got much more drop [07:30] Is it so unstable the new uMatriks as announced? [07:34] @KrisJacewicz, yeah i saw that a while ago when i was looking to get teamviewer to run on my phone. they seem to be doing a good job, but given the stack (.../mir/libertine/xorg/exagear/wine/teamviewer) there was too many ways for it to not work to spend money on that idea [07:36] using QEMU somehow would be a nicer solution i think. then with xmir and snapping the whole qemu/wine/teamviewer part... maaaybe.. [07:38] (teamviewer for linux really is teamviewer for windows + baked in wine session) [07:38] teamviewer originally was bundled with wine, and perhaps it still is up to this day. wine provides integration with the graphical session. I don't think it would that straightforward to run teamviewer in such a way [07:38] @YougoChats, exactly [07:40] they do have an ARM host for Raspberry Pi, but i want the client part to run on my phone [07:41] another angle would be that android client running on Anbox on UT, but that's nowhere near running either [07:52]