[16:20] <jbicha> hi, I think you can drop your depends on app-install-data
[16:20] <jbicha> also I'm really curious to know more details about why you don't install tracker by default any more
[16:21] <jbicha> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/install-tracker-by-default-in-18-04-lts/1483
[19:39] <fossfreedom_> jbicha, will do with app-install-data
[19:41] <fossfreedom_> with regards to tracker - we had quite alot of people complaining about long processes running/fan's blowing/high cpu during the 17.04 cycle.  This was tracked down to tracker.  Removing it hasnt caused any comment (yet) as to inability to search for stuff via nautilus.
[19:42] <jbicha> can you quantify "quite a lot"?
[19:42] <fossfreedom_> dozen or so people in our community room
[19:43] <jbicha> ok, feel free to comment on the Community thread with your perspective
[19:43] <jbicha> it's a difficult situation
[19:43] <jbicha> from Nautilus and Tracker's perspective, Tracker is shipped by every GNOME distro for years without that much of a problem
[19:43] <jbicha> if there is a problem, they'd love to see specific bugs
[19:44] <fossfreedom_> sure - forgotten the amount of time I urge people to run ubuntu-bug on stuff ... unfortunately very few do.
[19:45] <jbicha> I think the Ubuntu Desktop team is hesitant to add a complex component that might cause problems for some or many people right before an important LTS
[19:45] <jbicha> either way the team decides, there will be criticism :|
[19:46] <fossfreedom_> agreed.  Can't please everyone.
[20:10] <jbicha> thanks
[20:58] <jbicha> fossfreedom_: do you intentionally include indicators in Ubuntu Budgie?
[20:59] <fossfreedom_> appindicators jbicha ?  yeah - we have support for them.  Need to have a look this cycle on converting to use the new ayatana libraries
[20:59] <jbicha> oh ok
[20:59] <jbicha> and the other ones are intentional too? -bluetooth, -keyboard, etc.?
[21:00] <jbicha> what do you think about xdiagnose? most other Ubuntu flavors stopped shipping it
[21:00] <fossfreedom_> the unity bluetooth, keyboard indicators I have coded not to display because budgie has native applets for these
[21:01] <jbicha> do you know why they are installed by default?
[21:02] <fossfreedom_> not sure - need to look what is pulling them in.  I know on the ISO itself, those indicators are in the live (or shiplive) seeds since they appear in the ubiquity panel
[21:03] <jbicha> (I'm heading out for an hour)