[01:36] evening duflu [01:36] roasted, Hi... (it's actually 9:36am) [01:36] ha, 8:36 PM here :P [01:36] You must be upside down [01:36] East coast USA. [01:37] Yeah [01:37] government here just changed our time to make days longer or something :P [01:37] still just 24 stupid hours in a day [01:38] slightly OT: read about Arizona's (USA) DST zones for some epic hilarity. :P [01:38] duflu: wanted to share something with you regarding that gray artifact thing when using vaapi [01:38] so far in my testing I've only had the gray artifacts happen with mpv/youtube-dl streaming when the video is using vp9 codec. [01:38] so maybe it's an issue isolated with vp9 (?) [01:39] roasted, yes I had already guessed it was VP9 only :) [01:39] Just haven't had time to look yet [01:39] roasted, what container format (e.g. file extension and output from the 'file' command) do you get? [01:39] sec, let me re-run it and see. [01:40] you wnat the output when I hit vp9? [01:40] roasted, yes I expect it's VP9 video, inside an MP4 container [01:40] Although Google could be doing something different when streaming the VP9 [01:41] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f67881a90315ee0b95582382405c50c4 [01:41] roasted, Thanks. I didn't know mpv could do that :) [01:42] do what -- even attempt vp9? [01:42] roasted, interpret the youtube URL [01:43] I put this in my mpv.conf, which according to a github issue is a means of avoiding vp9 >> ytdl-format=bestvideo[height<=?1080][fps<=?30][vcodec!=?vp9]+bestaudio/best [01:43] roasted, OK I'll do some testing on that. Unfortunately my primary work machines are not up to it (only Haswell) so need to reorganise laptops beforehand [01:44] exact same mpv/link command ran a second time iwth that ytdl string in my mpv.conf: [01:44] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/84b7c20c5fbfaa80f66aea5387191bd3 [01:44] github issue source where I saw this comment: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/4241 [01:44] in case any of that helps :) [01:45] roasted, Cool. Yes that trick is what's used by Safari and just about every Android/iOS device I guess. They all need H.264 [01:45] I understand android post 4.4 leverages vp9 now [01:45] one post I read dated a few months old mentions IE (not Edge) and Safari are the only H264 holdouts [01:45] Possibly. But I think most CPU/GPUs can't [01:45] ah, true [01:46] Which might explain my poor results from android-x86 [01:48] roasted, Can you do me a favor and log a bug against mpv? That way I can keep track better, and also push the issue to whatever upstream project the bug is in [01:49] I mean log a bug in Launchpad [01:49] hah, for a second I was like :? as I know what MPV devs would say... [01:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpv/+filebug [01:49] "hardware accel is not recommended" blah blah [01:50] would you prefer I include most of the info we talked about including comparing mpv outputs of vp9 vs h264 etc? [01:50] roasted, if you can [01:50] sure can. [01:51] for now I think I'm going to let this ytdl anti vp9 line in my conf. Makes mpv work that much better. [01:52] from a streaming standpoint anyway [02:18] roasted, Sure. I am not familiar with that condition syntax but suspect you would not need "[height<=?1080][fps<=?30]" [02:18] Since all you want is the bestvideo that's not vp9 [02:18] duflu: yeah, I plan to cut it down a bit. My initial assumption with how I reworked that line failed. [02:18] I'll get to it. Figured I'd write up the bug report first. :P [02:26] duflu: ytdl-format=bestvideo[vcodec!=?vp9]+bestaudio/best [02:36] duflu: Submitted. #1730551. Appreciate your time my friend. Please let me know if I can help with testing anything. Until then I'll continue to rock the ytdl-format line as it serves as a decent workaround. Enjoy your night--er, day. :) [02:45] Thanks roasted, and no problem [06:49] good morning [07:17] good morning [07:32] Morning jibel, didrocks [07:32] Or it would be if my groceries weren't covered in milk [07:46] good morning [07:54] Morning oSoMoN [07:54] good afternoon duflu [08:47] good morning desktopers [08:48] duflu, nice to see those libinput improvements landing ... does it start making libinput more acceptable in your mind? [08:48] good morning seb128 [08:48] seb128, yes it's a big improvement. And surprisingly Peter used a heuristic so it applies to ANY touchpad model affected. There is no whitelist [08:48] Still a few points in the Trello card for me to revisit [08:49] k, good to see those changes coming in any case [08:49] He fixed HP x360 and ThinkPad X1 Carbon gen4 + gen5 all in a single fix [08:51] and many more, no doubt [09:02] morning! [09:02] hey Laney! how are you on this sunny tuesday? [09:03] lies [09:03] * didrocks looks outside [09:03] no sun [09:03] fake sun! [09:03] hey Laney [09:03] hey Laney, salut didrocks [09:04] hey oSoMoN :) [09:05] Morning Laney, willcooke [09:05] and belated good morning seb128 [09:05] hey seb128 didrocks oSoMoN duflu! [09:05] no sun indeed #fakenews [09:05] how's it going? [09:06] morning [09:06] winter weather, but less sick than the previous days, so overall good! yourself? [09:06] hey willcooke [09:06] stupid timezones pt2. Surprise 9am meeting [09:06] pt1 was last night when I was nearly an hour late for my 1:1 with Robert [09:08] willcooke, that reminds me. I think the Wednesday meeting is still an hour out. Konrad agreed to change it but he forgot I think [09:09] (it should ideally be fixed in UTC) [09:12] hey Laney :-) [09:12] * Laney runs [09:12] i mean, hi ximion! [09:13] that reaction is appropriate ;-) [09:13] * ximion chases Laney [09:14] there is an appstream-generator release that you'll really want in Ubuntu, because it not only finds more icons but also has support for webapps and *might* use less memory [09:14] annoying for you is that it depends on a very recent AppStream release, which requires Meson, which requires a bugfixed gobject-introspection, which requires a GLib update [09:15] so, a really annoying thing to backport to Xenial (I tried) [09:16] oh THANKS! [09:16] * ximion doesn't know if sarkasm or not :P [09:16] imagine if there were a snap :P [09:17] actually, this would be a good case for a Snap, maybe I make one [09:17] * ximion hasn't snapped in a while [09:17] hehe [09:17] destilling the patch that fixed gir or just updating everything to a recent version is also possible, I guess :P [09:18] I just thought that all that backporting is an annoying problem, would be nice if that were solved somehow [09:18] ...oh wait! [09:18] but I'm not sure if they allow you to run a non-LTS Ubuntu for services at Canonical [09:18] not really [09:19] we could always put out a new LTS release, or something [09:19] good plan [09:19] neat, so I hope I can make post-freeze updates to suites possible with AppStream in time for Bionic, it'll be a tough issue though (also, hughsie doesn't get the problem yet, but that's the easiest issue to solve) [09:19] (...ssh nusakan.canonical.com) [09:20] oh yeah, that one is hard [09:21] there is also a new package that I should make you aware of: webapps-metainfo --> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/webapps-metainfo [09:21] it's purpose is to exclusively hold metadata to fully-free web applications to be displayed in GNOME Software [09:22] when launched from there, the "apps" run in a chrome-less Epiphany window [09:22] yeah I've seen those [09:22] having it shipped via a package feels weird to me, does it to you? [09:22] it's a feature requested quite often, but also occasionally hated by users according to hughsie [09:25] so, we should probably indicate webapps better in GS (at the moment they look like regular apps, which IMHO isn't good) [09:25] Laney: jup, it's weird, but the alternative would have been to inject those via some side channel into the final metadata, which would be even weirder [09:26] with the package method, every DD and Ubuntu dev knows how to edit these files, we gat a bugtracker entry, can ship icons really easily, and integrate generally well with the package-based workflow of asgen [09:26] nah was thinking a separate appstream source for those [09:27] so, while feeling weird at first, I think this approach is best [09:27] like the extensions.gnome.org stuff (ok, that's not appstream but you know what I mean) [09:29] in that case we would need some "download data from $arbitrary_source" logic which doesn't exist yet [09:30] web apps are a really weird thing, because they are not "installed", so the usual delivery method (Flatpak, Snappy, APT) can't provide the metadata [09:30] so they'll always be weirdly bolted onto an existing system [09:31] yah [09:31] with webapps being in the archive, we do have an even bigger incentive now to be able to edit archive metadata post-freeze though [09:31] that's like extensions [09:31] hah [09:33] I resisted adding webapps properly to AppStream for a really, really long time now :P [09:33] * ximion didn't see the point [09:34] btw, Fedora is doing things exactly the same way as Debian is doing it now, by packaging metadata [09:34] also, the Ubuntu asgen will do the wrong thing (tm) with the webapp metadata, because it doesn't know how to treat that data properly [09:37] Laney: interesting, looks like Ubuntu's asgen is ignoring the webapps package entirely :P [09:39] ximion: http://appstream.ubuntu.com/bionic/universe/metainfo/webapps-metainfo.html ? [09:39] I don't see that page [09:40] very weird [09:50] should catch up soon [09:50] got an appointment, back in 30ish [09:58] seb128, I've got another libreoffice build ready for bionic, verified to build on all arches in a PPA: https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-5.4.2/bionic/ [09:58] oSoMoN, great, thank you [10:08] oSoMoN, hum, 5.4.2 has already been uploades so the .changes/upload shouldn't include the origin files [10:09] oSoMoN, also no need to -v to include 1:5.4.2-0ubuntu1 and ubuntu2 since those have been uploaded (I mentioned it for 0ubuntu2 because at the time 0ubuntu1 hadn't been included in an upload yet) [10:11] seb128, ok, let me re-do the source package [10:12] thx [11:04] seb128, there you go: https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-5.4.2/bionic2/ [11:04] (sorry for the delay, I was in the middle of something else) [11:16] oSoMoN, hi, damn fonts ;) -- there is no need to rebuild l10n [11:18] indeed [11:19] seb128, no need to push libreoffice-l10n it seems, only libreoffice [11:21] oSoMoN, ohh [11:21] another icu transition? [11:31] ricotz, oh wow [11:32] let's hope LO will build fine against that new version [11:33] oSoMoN, so better push 5.4.3 fast, before d_oko pushes a no-change rebuild which wastes cycles ;) [11:35] oSoMoN, yeah, still two weeks to go before it is reasonable to push 6.0 which is more in shape for all those new things tickling in [11:37] yeah [12:03] chrisccoulson, hi, please note that this is not built - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/1.21.0+dfsg1+llvm-0ubuntu3 [12:38] didrocks, how do I enable ubuntu dock in the gnome session? [12:38] willcooke: you can with the chrome extension or tweaks [12:38] oSoMoN, k [12:39] didrocks, aha, tweaks. That makes sense. Thx [12:39] yw ;) [14:13] HI, GDM question (does it even belong here?): If I disable Wayland in gdm conf, can I anyway choose Wayland session? [14:15] krashekspress: no [14:16] < sad panda [14:16] at least now my gdm screen is not broken on boot [14:16] GDM only offers Wayland sessions if GDM is running under Wayland [14:17] jbicha: thanks [14:25] krashekspress, why would you disable wayland if it works? [14:27] seb128: hah, it works only if I log into Xorg first, because Xorg loads drivers correctly (looks like kernel driver for my card has bug) [14:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/1724796 [14:27] Launchpad bug 1724796 in libdrm (Ubuntu) "Picture is heavily malformed" [Undecided,New] [14:27] oh ok [14:27] by disabling Wayland in GDM, at least login screen is fixed [14:28] and I realy don't want to relog daily just to use Wayland, hopefully stuff will be fixed [14:28] and I don't know how to load/reload thos drivers in any other way [14:30] bear with me while I finish this call [14:30] 5 mins [14:30] for meeting start [14:32] o/ [14:33] k [14:34] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 [14:34] Meeting started Tue Nov 7 14:34:35 2017 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:34] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: [14:34] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (hols), robert_ancell (out) [14:34] 😺/ === heber_ is now known as heber [14:34] hey! [14:35] hey [14:35] Sorry for the late start everyone [14:35] o/ [14:35] o/ [14:35] Looks like we've got enough folk to get started.... [14:35] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: andyrock [14:35] hey [14:35] 1. py-macaroon-bakery [14:35] 1.1 MR to relaxing py-requests and py-protobuf dependencies in order to facilite the ITP's py-macaroon-bakery [14:35] 1.2 testing the MR to make sure relaxing the deps was ok [14:35] 1.3 python-macaroon-bakery is in bionic (0.0.3 in universe and 0.0.5 in universe-proposed) thanks to cjwatson [14:35] 2. software-properties [14:35] 2.1 Refactoring code around in order to make it work with new API, code is almost ready I just need to deal with some corner cases [14:35] 3. my xps 15 decided to died, spent some time to open it, debug the issue and order the different replacement parts to fix it [14:36] *to relax [14:36] andyrock, OEM said you can keep that machine for a little while if you need it [14:36] cool [14:37] andyrock, EOF? [14:37] yup [14:37] thanks andyrock [14:37] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: dgadomski [14:37] hey [14:37] o/ [14:37] * discussed TLS1.2 support in python 2.7.6 on Trusty (bug #1443704) with the security team, checking if it's supported by openssl underneath without Python knowing about it [14:37] * debugging a potential cups regression in 17.10 - will report a bug after I know what's going on there [14:37] * back to working on bug #1700827 (after security issues has been resolved upstream) [14:37] bug 1443704 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Support for TLS 1.2 not present (added in 2.7.9)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443704 [14:37] bug 1700827 in pcp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pcp package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700827 [14:37] eof [14:37] thanks dgadomski [14:37] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: didrocks [14:38] plop [14:38] * File Google Code In tasks on the forum. Need now to enter them in the system (Ken, you did volunteered as well, I think I'll get you in). [14:38] * Started GNOME Shell vs extension mode upstream discussion for security on their mailing list: [14:38] - Few feedbacks for now, tried pushing on ML, bugzilla and IRC multiple times. [14:38] - Implemented a POC patch set enabling that. Running this patch set happily for some days and all works (updates prevention, can't remove extension, running local one instead of remote one). [14:38] - Once this is sorted out, will need to work on Tweaks and chrome shell extension to reflect correct status. [14:38] - For reference: discussion at https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2017-October/msg00034.html and bug athttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789852. [14:38] Gnome bug 789852 in general "Ensure extensions parts of a mode are from system, report back correct status for g-s-extension-prefs" [Normal,New] [14:38] * Fix a dash to dock vs ubuntu dock conflict (do not look at gsettings key but rather looking at internal running state) + SRU/backport some upstream fixes to artful. [14:38] * Linux Unplugged interview [14:38] * Fix a GNOME Shell crasher when installed with no recommends [14:38] * Iterate with GNOME Shell designers on "sounds above 100% feedback" [14:38] * Rebase fo bionic ubuntu-dock on latest dash to dock and uploadedit. [14:38] * More community interaction on the hub and french forum. [14:38] … [14:38] thanks didrocks [14:39] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: duflu [14:39] Standby for large paste.... [14:39] * PulseAudio 11.1 for bionic: [14:39] - Completed merge with Debian, packaging fixes and testing. [14:39] - Now just awaiting sponsorship; see sponsorship list below. [14:39] - History: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu [14:39] * Mutter/Xwayland crash handling (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1724185) [14:39] - Fix released upstream this week (v3.26.2) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1724185 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Xwayland leaves no core dump or .crash file when crashing" [High,Fix released] [14:39] - Fix released in Bionic already! [14:39] * Mutter: blurry shell fonts: (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1714459) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1714459 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Shell font is blurry under Wayland (panels, menus and login screen too)" [Low,In progress] [14:39] - Fix landed upstream for release in mutter v3.27.2 only. [14:39] - HELP: Need to decide how we will get this into 18.04 if not Gnome 3.28. [14:39] * Totem stuttering fixes (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698270) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1698270 in totem-pl-parser (Ubuntu) "Totem pauses and stutters during video playback even when CPU usage is low" [High,In progress] [14:39] - GTK timing flaws: patches awaiting review/sponsorship below. [14:39] - Totem disk fsync: patch awaiting review/sponsorship below. [14:39] * Totem high CPU usage (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698282) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1698282 in clutter-gst-3.0 (Ubuntu) "Totem uses dramatically higher CPU than any other video player" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:39] - On hold till upstream or myself find time to work on completing DMA-buf support in clutter-gst. [14:39] * Unresponsive touchpads (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1696929) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1696929 in libinput (Ubuntu) "X1 Carbon gen4 and gen5 touchpads are unresponsive and laggy" [High,Confirmed] [14:39] - Upstream fix approved by all testers and now landed. [14:39] - Due for release in libinput 1.9.2 (I guess) [14:39] * Incorrect %CPU in gnome-system-monitor (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1723370) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1723370 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "Processes % CPU column is inaccurate (only ever an integer multiple of the number of CPUs)" [Medium,In progress] [14:39] - Upstream fix has now landed. [14:39] - ETA for inclusion in Ubuntu not yet known. [14:39] * Leaky/bloated Gnome Shell (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1672297) [14:39] Launchpad bug 1672297 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [High,In progress] [14:39] - I got sucked into this by an unexpectedly helpful and eager user so have been working with him. Looks like there are at least two repeating causes of memory bloat/leak. [14:39] - Work in progress. [14:39] * HELP: Patches awaiting Ubuntu sponsorship: [14:40] - https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/gtk/fix-1698270/+merge/331846 [14:40] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1698270/comments/18 [14:40] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1716700/comments/2 [14:40] Launchpad bug 1716700 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to PulseAudio 11.1" [Wishlist,In progress] [14:40] - https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/totem/fix-1502476/+merge/333195 [14:40] * Patches awaiting upstream review: [14:40] - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787001 [14:40] Gnome bug 787001 in GtkClutterEmbed "clutter-gtk apps like totem and gnome-maps are spending 50% of their CPU time redrawing GTK widgets" [Normal,New] [14:40] - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787665 [14:40] Gnome bug 787665 in .General "gdk_frame_clock_get_frame_time is irregular and causing stuttering" [Normal,New] [14:40] * Upstream patches now making progress with upstream help: [14:40] - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773453 [14:40] Gnome bug 773453 in gstreamer-vaapi "vaapi: support GLTextureUpload for EGL/Wayland" [Normal,New] [14:40] * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, mir, wayland, totem, mpv. [14:40] Desktoppers: Please could someone take a look at the sponsorship requests above ^ [14:41] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: jbicha [14:41] (totem at least is blocked on the headerbar decision) [14:41] • gdm3 security update for zesty (LP: #1729354) [14:41] Launchpad bug 1729354 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "17.04: GDM lock screen can be circumvented when autologin is set" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1729354 [14:41] • Uploaded mutter SRU to artful queue (LP:#1730097) [14:41] • Uploaded nototools and fonts-noto-color-emoji to NEW queues. [14:41] • Uploaded libcloudproviders to NEW queue. It will enable Nextcloud support in GTK/Nautilus file browser (so it will need a MIR). [14:41] • Debian Testing finally has GNOME 3.26 [14:41] • Continuing discussion about headerbar patches on community.ubuntu.com [14:41] Xubuntu is considering switching some of their default apps (like evince and file-roller) to the MATE versions [14:41] eof [14:42] jbicha, what about totem is blocked on headerbar? [14:42] duflu's fix is to drop the headerbar patches! :) [14:42] oh ok [14:42] (I'm going to look at duflu's sponsoring request on thursday if nobody does it before (I'm off tomorrow)) [14:42] thanks seb128 [14:43] and thanks jbicha [14:43] np [14:43] https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/totem/fix-1502476/+merge/333195 [14:43] Skipping jamesh, no update received [14:43] #topic jibel / heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: jibel / heber [14:43] Hey! QA updates: [14:43] * Deploying upgrade tests for bionic [14:43] * Maintenance of the testing infrastructure [14:43] * Going through ubiquity and upgrade failing jobs [14:43] * Move jobs that are waiting for nodes on lcy01 [14:43] * Getting/parsing results for gnome-shell tests [14:43] EOF [14:44] thanks heber, hope you had good hols. Don't think I've said hi since you've been back [14:44] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: kenvandine [14:44] * Backported some more fixes from artful to the gnome-3-26 backports PPA including glib with the per desktop overrides. [14:44] * Updated gnome-3-26-1604 snap to include fixes [14:44] * Fixed snapcraft-desktop-helpers to include copying of the schema overrides [14:44] * Rebuilt and tested all the GNOME snaps to include the gsettings override fixes as well as updated packages [14:44] * Tested the new gnome-online-accounts-service interface from jamesh with gnome-calendar and gnome-contacts [14:44] * Created contacts-service and calendar-service needed interfaces for evolution access from gnome-calendar and gnome-contacts. No PR submitted yet, needs some tweaking and tests but they do work with gnome-contacts and gnome-calendar with strict confinement. [14:44] I'm out friday, US holiday [14:44] that' sit [14:44] thanks kenvandine [14:45] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: Laney [14:45] oh, jamesh did a gnome-online-accounts interface, nice [14:45] • 2 day meeting in London to review Trello etc [14:45] • helped bring up new cloud region for autopkgtest (lcy01 was redeployed) [14:45] ∘ it's got / hitting a bug where instances are failing to reboot (something like bug #1713751), spent a fair bit of time looking into that with IS (ongoing) [14:45] bug 1713751 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu) "soft lockup / stall on CPU when shutting down with hwe 4.10 kernel " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713751 [14:45] • got review on some gnome-software PRs, fixed / responded to those [14:45] • started working again on seeding of snaps [14:45] 🎆 [14:46] jamesh, shame you forgot to write your summary, you usually have interesting work :) [14:46] seb128, and it works great :) [14:46] nice [14:46] thanks Laney [14:47] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: oSoMoN [14:47] hey ho! [14:47] = chromium = [14:47] • chromium 62.0.3202.75 security update published to all supported series, 62.0.3202.89 currently building in stage PPA [14:47] • updated chromium beta to 63.0.3239.30 in PPA and snap in beta channel [14:47] • updating chromium dev to 64.0.3253.3 [14:47] • my upstream CL that fixes source tarball generation got merged and deployed: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/tools/build/+/3eab95a2d59d2ed3d983079c2fb1a0e449b858f3 [14:47] • bug triaging, closing many old bugs that are not relevant any longer, confirming a few ones [14:47] = libreoffice = [14:47] • snap: fixed a couple of issues found by candidate channel testers (bug #1729025, bug #1728713) and promoted 5.4.2 to stable channel [14:47] bug 1729025 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Cannot install 5.4.2 snap with core from beta channel: invalid exec command" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1729025 [14:47] bug 1728713 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] theming regressed in 5.4.2 on Ubuntu 17.10" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1728713 [14:47] • bionic: prepared 5.4.2 upload, failed to build on amd64 due to new unit test failures, backported a couple of commits from the upstream debian package and prepared an updated package which is now building [14:47] = other = [14:47] • prepared PPU application for chromium-browser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierTilloy/PPUApplication, please endorse me if you can! [14:47] EOF ❄️ [14:47] nice, thanks oSoMoN [14:47] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: seb128 [14:48] • 1 day off for national holiday [14:48] • 2 days in London for planning [14:48] • bugs triaging from incoming artful reports [14:48] • some sponsoring [14:48] • replied to some delayed email and to mailing list discussions [14:48] [14:48] thanks seb128 [14:48] #topic tk === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: tk [14:48] err [14:48] tk taks [14:49] guess Till isn't online [14:49] tab complete fail [14:49] We can come back [14:49] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: robert_ancell [14:49] - Got basic snap support working in AppCenter (ElementaryOS) and forwarded patch to them. [14:49] - Implemented new / updated snapd APIs into snapd-glib [14:49] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-11-07 | Current topic: AOB [14:49] jbicha, you wanted to talk about.... [14:49] * willcooke thinks [14:49] LP: #1666676 [14:49] Launchpad bug 1666676 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Install tracker by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666676 [14:50] that's the one [14:50] ah, back on that one :) [14:50] I invited csoriano (Nautilus maintainer) and garnacho (tracker maintainer) in case there were more detailed questions [14:50] hi everyone [14:51] hi garnacho, thanks for joining [14:52] sorry but I didn't see that discussion would be raised today [14:52] I didn't re-read enough about the topic nor prepared [14:52] so I don't have questions or specifics to discuss [14:52] can we punt to tomorrow on IRC? [14:52] sorry, I didn't think to ping seb128 specifically ahead of time [14:52] hello all [14:53] jbicha, well, it's not only me [14:53] maybe I should have emailed the list instead [14:53] in advance [14:53] jbicha, seems like you invited upstream, would have been nice to tell us to prepare questions if we had some :) [14:53] I guess latest stand we got on perf and battery was summarized in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1666676/comments/6 [14:53] Launchpad bug 1666676 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Install tracker by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:53] jbicha, could we start a thread on the hub? Sounds like a good place to do it [14:53] hey csoriano! [14:53] (I didn't read more, didn't know we would have that AOB and didn't prepare for that question) [14:54] well, those discussions went round but "on the spot" comments [14:54] community.ubutnu.com is nice because it doesn't require people to all be on IRC at the same time to give input [14:54] - the LTS cycle is a tricky time to do disruptive changes and that's one of those [14:54] it was a stealth request on https://trello.com/c/4gjeaE66/93-re-evaluate-tracker-by-default [14:54] - we would need to plan for manpower to do the change and ensure quality and we didn't account for that [14:54] and I didn't think that everyone wouldn't have seen the little note there [14:56] I think the hub is probably a good place for this then, people can take time over their responses [14:56] willcooke: I can start the discussion on community.ubuntu.com, how about we see where we are with that at next week's Desktop meeting? [14:56] think things through [14:56]