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Ben64!lts | Ben6406:07
ubot5Ben64, please see my private message06:07
Ben64there, finally got hexchat to look like xchat06:14
Ben64now to fix themes :S06:14
Ben64maybe if i do a good enough job, i can upload it to gnome-look06:15
ducassehi all! \o07:08
lotuspsychjemorning guys07:09
ducassehi lotuspsychje - all well?07:10
lotuspsychjehey ducasse great here07:10
lotuspsychjeducasse: what about you?07:10
ducasseok here, bought new phone yesterday \o/07:11
lotuspsychjecool that moto e?07:11
ducassemoto g507:11
lotuspsychjenice07:11
ducassethey ended up costing the same, and this was just a better phone, so...07:12
lotuspsychjeandroid 7?07:12
ducasseyep, but 7.1 should be available soon07:13
lordievaderGood morning07:13
lotuspsychjehey lordievader07:13
ducasse\o07:14
lordievaderHey lotuspsychje , ducasse07:15
lordievaderHow are you?07:15
ducasseall good, but freezing outside. brought out the trash an hour ago, the wood was so slippery with ice i went straight down with no warning07:17
ducassei hate ice :-(07:17
lotuspsychjecold here also07:19
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/enlightenment-0-22-linux-desktop-environment-greatly-improves-wayland-support-518410.shtml07:21
ducassepity enlightenment is so horrible ;)07:22
lotuspsychjeyeah last time i tested had many bugs07:22
lordievaderYes, pretty cold today :(07:23
lotuspsychje!info zathura07:54
ubot5zathura (source: zathura): document viewer with a minimalistic interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1 (artful), package size 135 kB, installed size 530 kB07:54
lotuspsychjenice1 ducasse07:54
ducassei like it, you might not :) as i tend to keep my hands on the home row it reduces mouse usage etc07:56
lotuspsychjemupdf also light on keyboard and love it07:56
lotuspsychjeinstalling08:00
lotuspsychjeducasse: open with..doesnt seem to work on epub08:03
lotuspsychjeducasse: its not gui?08:03
lotuspsychjethink it doesnt like unity08:06
lotuspsychjebbl making ready for work08:09
ducasseit provides an x11 window for viewing, but is completely keyboard-driven.08:09
lotuspsychjeah08:09
lotuspsychjebbl08:10
ducassehave fun at work today, lotus - i'm staying nice and toasty inside :)08:10
lotuspsychjelol08:44
lotuspsychje!upgrades08:59
ubot5For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:59
lotuspsychje2015 ermm09:00
lotuspsychjewe should need this in a trigger https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades09:01
lotuspsychje!security09:01
ubot5Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall, !server, and !usn09:01
lotuspsychje!securityupgrade09:01
lotuspsychjehave a nice109:28
ducasse!bionic09:54
ubot5Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+109:54
EriC^^remove the +r from the channel you lazy ops!10:17
EriC^^wtf is wrong with you10:17
EriC^^ikonia et the rest!10:17
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BluesKajHi folks12:41
ducassewb BluesKaj - how's life?12:45
BluesKajHey ducasse, just fine thanks. how about you?12:46
ducassesorted out a new phone last night, so can't complain ;) felt a bit incommunicado for a few days :)12:48
BluesKajbtw thanks for the ifupdown tip yesterday, just need to setup the staic ip etc in the interfaces file12:48
BluesKajstatic ip rather12:49
ducassenp, i do that myself here atm. nice to still have the option of doing what has worked for 20 years12:50
BluesKajDNS in the resolved.conf file, both in the systemd dir12:51
BluesKajthe interfaces file is still in /etc/network, /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten ...wonder if I purged NM12:56
BluesKajmaybe i could avoid systemd altogether12:58
BluesKajbrb, gonna check13:00
lordievaderUnlikely in the current state of Ubuntu.13:06
BluesKajstill have to use resolved.conf in /etc/systemd ..any added dns settings to /etc/resolv,conf are overwritten with a new default file afaik.13:20
lordievaderYou don't have to use systemd-resolved.13:22
BluesKajlordievader, I tried without any DNS settings in /etc/systemd/esolved.conf...no internet, with DNS  settings ther ei have internet13:27
BluesKajei =is13:27
lordievaderOf course you need/want DNS. However, there are other resolvers besides systemd-networkd.13:28
lordievaderErr, systemd-resolved.13:28
BluesKaji need DNS13:28
BluesKajno NM13:29
lordievaderAdding a nameserver to `/etc/resolv.conf` is enough for me.13:30
BluesKaj /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten here13:33
lordievaderLikely by systemd-resolved. But like I said, it ain't necesary. Not in my case, anyhow.13:34
BluesKajI tried /etc/resolv.conf with a nameserver and commented my dns settings in /etc/systemd/resolved which resulted in no internet connection and the dns settings added to /etc/resolv.conf settings being removed/overwritten13:37
BluesKajmy /etc/resolv.conf file name font is in italics ..what does that imply ?13:38
BluesKajahh properties says the file points to ./run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf13:41
lordievaderYes, normally it is a symlink to somewhere.13:41
BluesKajyup it'sa justa link13:41
lordievaderBut since my server doesn't need a dynamic dns config I made a flat file of it.13:42
lotuspsychjegood evening to all18:03
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/new-intel-amd-processor18:06
immulotuspsychje, good night laa18:23
immuhow are u doing18:23
lotuspsychjegreat you?18:24
lotuspsychjeimmu: still on manjaro?18:24
immuno, on Solus lotuspsychje18:24
immuu18:24
lotuspsychjeright18:25
lotuspsychjexenial and artful18:25
immuok18:27
immuwhy what happened? lotuspsychje18:27
lotuspsychjewhat?18:28
ellotuspsychje: so fun fact that was the onion spammer and reason we're stuck +r. you might be he subject of spam now so please please please refrain from reacting to it or it'll encourage him more.18:28
lotuspsychjeel: your the first to inform us that18:29
elel: because now is the first time that it is approprate to.18:31
lotuspsychjei see18:31
elif i had told you sooner one of you have called him a troll and got spammed about. if he's not currently blowing up, removing him results in spam.18:31
elthe only reason to remove him if he's blowing up, like now18:32
lotuspsychjeel: i never encouraged him by the way..im just doing support like i always do18:32
ellotuspsychje: i know i'm just warning you that you might be targetted please don't feed back18:33
lotuspsychjeallrighty :p he can always try18:33
naccel: thanks for the info18:41
Bashing-omTJ-: Brightens our day :)18:48
lotuspsychje!info vim-youcompleteme18:49
ubot5vim-youcompleteme (source: vim-youcompleteme): fast, as-you-type, fuzzy-search code completion engine for Vim. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+20161219+git194ff33-1 (artful), package size 110 kB, installed size 384 kB18:49
TJ-ha! I've got a bug bothering me! surprise surprise! How you guys?18:49
lotuspsychjeperhaps the #vim guys know more about that18:50
lotuspsychjenever tested that myself18:50
lotuspsychjewant me to test something with it TJ- ?18:51
lotuspsychjeim on xenial18:51
TJ-It's an Ubuntu thing! first thing is the wrong python version is being used (2.7 instead of 3.x) that causes tons of error messages in vim the moment I type anything at all. Then after finding how to tell Y.C.M. to use python3 via a .vimrc option... nothing happens at all! as in no errors (Yay!) but no auto-complete either. Tried it in an LXD container for 17.10 and it works but in a 16.04 container18:52
TJ-it fails the same18:52
TJ-I know it doesn't work - I was hoping I'd find someone more familiar with it that fixed the issue. No bug reports filed about in LP, big issues about 16.04 python2 in the Y.C.M. github issue tracker, but nothing via search-engines about it not showing any autocomplete and I cannot figure out how to enable debug logging!18:53
naccTJ-: afaict, it depends on python3 (and not python2), so it's ratherr buggy if it's using pytho218:56
TJ-aha!18:58
TJ-nacc: yes, I've applied the fix for that in .vimrc "let g:ycm_server_python_interpreter = '/usr/bin/python3' "18:58
naccTJ-: hrm, intneresting so maybe it's a setting thing?18:58
TJ-aha! "vim -V9" helps! --> ImportError: dynamic module does not define module export function (PyInit_ycm_core)18:58
TJ-nacc: i'm testing in a fresh 16.04 container to ensure my own  vim customisations aren't an issue18:59
naccTJ-: ack18:59
lotuspsychjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim-youcompleteme/+bug/1538532 this?18:59
ubot5Launchpad bug 1538532 in ycmd (Ubuntu) "Broken in Xenial, vim requires python3 now" [High,Fix released]18:59
TJ-No; that was a different problem. The packages were being built against python2 not python3. This new issue is due to there being run-time bugs not fixed by building against python319:08
TJ-Bug #173073119:09
ubot5bug 1730731 in vim-youcompleteme (Ubuntu) "[16.04] no autocomplete and multiple errors due to not using python3 as the default interpreter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173073119:09
lotuspsychjecool19:09
lotuspsychjeTJ-: there's a neovim snap on xenial also, perhaps test there?19:10
immuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoStTPLpuRw19:11
immuany where i can get HD audio for this ComeWhat May?19:15
nicomachusimmu: rutracker.org19:17
immuits in russian19:18
nicomachusyea. translate the page or just find the search box19:19
immuok19:22
TJ-Figured it out. The package maintainer doesn't know what they're doing! They rebuilt the package against Python3 but didn't update the Python extension module (ycm_core.so) to use the new Python 3 module loading requirement, which is to have an entry function PyInit_<modulename>() . So, entire package useless in 16.0419:27
naccTJ-: well, to be honest, i'd diff the corresponding upload to debiann and ubuntu19:27
naccubuntu moved head of debainn in xenial19:27
naccand i wonder if it was a buggy backport19:28
naccTJ-: if you file a bug, i can take a look19:28
TJ-nacc: as above ^^19:28
TJ-Bug #173073119:28
ubot5bug 1730731 in vim-youcompleteme (Ubuntu) "[16.04] no autocomplete and multiple errors due to not using python3 interpreter or extension calling conventions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173073119:28
naccTJ-: thanks19:37
lotuspsychjenite nite all19:55
Bashing-om!esm21:27
ubot5Canonical offers paid extended security support for 12.04 through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly.21:27
oerheksgood, not connected to the internet, one problem less to worry about23:49

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