[06:07] <Ben64> !lts | Ben64
[06:07] <ubot5> Ben64, please see my private message
[06:14] <Ben64> there, finally got hexchat to look like xchat
[06:14] <Ben64> now to fix themes :S
[06:15] <Ben64> maybe if i do a good enough job, i can upload it to gnome-look
[07:08] <ducasse> hi all! \o
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[07:10] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje - all well?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse great here
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: what about you?
[07:11] <ducasse> ok here, bought new phone yesterday \o/
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> cool that moto e?
[07:11] <ducasse> moto g5
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> nice
[07:12] <ducasse> they ended up costing the same, and this was just a better phone, so...
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> android 7?
[07:13] <ducasse> yep, but 7.1 should be available soon
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:14] <ducasse> \o
[07:15] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje , ducasse
[07:15] <lordievader> How are you?
[07:17] <ducasse> all good, but freezing outside. brought out the trash an hour ago, the wood was so slippery with ice i went straight down with no warning
[07:17] <ducasse> i hate ice :-(
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> cold here also
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/enlightenment-0-22-linux-desktop-environment-greatly-improves-wayland-support-518410.shtml
[07:22] <ducasse> pity enlightenment is so horrible ;)
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> yeah last time i tested had many bugs
[07:23] <lordievader> Yes, pretty cold today :(
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !info zathura
[07:54] <ubot5> zathura (source: zathura): document viewer with a minimalistic interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1 (artful), package size 135 kB, installed size 530 kB
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> nice1 ducasse
[07:56] <ducasse> i like it, you might not :) as i tend to keep my hands on the home row it reduces mouse usage etc
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> mupdf also light on keyboard and love it
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> installing
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: open with..doesnt seem to work on epub
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: its not gui?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> think it doesnt like unity
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> bbl making ready for work
[08:09] <ducasse> it provides an x11 window for viewing, but is completely keyboard-driven.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> ah
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:10] <ducasse> have fun at work today, lotus - i'm staying nice and toasty inside :)
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !upgrades
[08:59] <ubot5> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> 2015 ermm
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> we should need this in a trigger https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !security
[09:01] <ubot5> Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall, !server, and !usn
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !securityupgrade
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> have a nice1
[09:54] <ducasse> !bionic
[09:54] <ubot5> Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1
[10:17] <EriC^^> remove the +r from the channel you lazy ops!
[10:17] <EriC^^> wtf is wrong with you
[10:17] <EriC^^> ikonia et the rest!
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[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:45] <ducasse> wb BluesKaj - how's life?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey ducasse, just fine thanks. how about you?
[12:48] <ducasse> sorted out a new phone last night, so can't complain ;) felt a bit incommunicado for a few days :)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> btw thanks for the ifupdown tip yesterday, just need to setup the staic ip etc in the interfaces file
[12:49] <BluesKaj> static ip rather
[12:50] <ducasse> np, i do that myself here atm. nice to still have the option of doing what has worked for 20 years
[12:51] <BluesKaj> DNS in the resolved.conf file, both in the systemd dir
[12:56] <BluesKaj> the interfaces file is still in /etc/network, /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten ...wonder if I purged NM
[12:58] <BluesKaj> maybe i could avoid systemd altogether
[13:00] <BluesKaj> brb, gonna check
[13:06] <lordievader> Unlikely in the current state of Ubuntu.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> still have to use resolved.conf in /etc/systemd ..any added dns settings to /etc/resolv,conf are overwritten with a new default file afaik.
[13:22] <lordievader> You don't have to use systemd-resolved.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I tried without any DNS settings in /etc/systemd/esolved.conf...no internet, with DNS  settings ther ei have internet
[13:27] <BluesKaj> ei =is
[13:28] <lordievader> Of course you need/want DNS. However, there are other resolvers besides systemd-networkd.
[13:28] <lordievader> Err, systemd-resolved.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> i need DNS
[13:29] <BluesKaj> no NM
[13:30] <lordievader> Adding a nameserver to `/etc/resolv.conf` is enough for me.
[13:33] <BluesKaj>  /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten here
[13:34] <lordievader> Likely by systemd-resolved. But like I said, it ain't necesary. Not in my case, anyhow.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> I tried /etc/resolv.conf with a nameserver and commented my dns settings in /etc/systemd/resolved which resulted in no internet connection and the dns settings added to /etc/resolv.conf settings being removed/overwritten
[13:38] <BluesKaj> my /etc/resolv.conf file name font is in italics ..what does that imply ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ahh properties says the file points to ./run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[13:41] <lordievader> Yes, normally it is a symlink to somewhere.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> yup it'sa justa link
[13:42] <lordievader> But since my server doesn't need a dynamic dns config I made a flat file of it.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/new-intel-amd-processor
[18:23] <immu> lotuspsychje, good night laa
[18:23] <immu> how are u doing
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> great you?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> immu: still on manjaro?
[18:24] <immu> no, on Solus lotuspsychje
[18:24] <immu> u
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> right
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> xenial and artful
[18:27] <immu> ok
[18:27] <immu> why what happened? lotuspsychje
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> what?
[18:28] <el> lotuspsychje: so fun fact that was the onion spammer and reason we're stuck +r. you might be he subject of spam now so please please please refrain from reacting to it or it'll encourage him more.
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> el: your the first to inform us that
[18:31] <el> el: because now is the first time that it is approprate to.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> i see
[18:31] <el> if i had told you sooner one of you have called him a troll and got spammed about. if he's not currently blowing up, removing him results in spam.
[18:32] <el> the only reason to remove him if he's blowing up, like now
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> el: i never encouraged him by the way..im just doing support like i always do
[18:33] <el> lotuspsychje: i know i'm just warning you that you might be targetted please don't feed back
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> allrighty :p he can always try
[18:41] <nacc> el: thanks for the info
[18:48] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Brightens our day :)
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> !info vim-youcompleteme
[18:49] <ubot5> vim-youcompleteme (source: vim-youcompleteme): fast, as-you-type, fuzzy-search code completion engine for Vim. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+20161219+git194ff33-1 (artful), package size 110 kB, installed size 384 kB
[18:49] <TJ-> ha! I've got a bug bothering me! surprise surprise! How you guys?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> perhaps the #vim guys know more about that
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> never tested that myself
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> want me to test something with it TJ- ?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> im on xenial
[18:52] <TJ-> It's an Ubuntu thing! first thing is the wrong python version is being used (2.7 instead of 3.x) that causes tons of error messages in vim the moment I type anything at all. Then after finding how to tell Y.C.M. to use python3 via a .vimrc option... nothing happens at all! as in no errors (Yay!) but no auto-complete either. Tried it in an LXD container for 17.10 and it works but in a 16.04 container
[18:52] <TJ-> it fails the same
[18:53] <TJ-> I know it doesn't work - I was hoping I'd find someone more familiar with it that fixed the issue. No bug reports filed about in LP, big issues about 16.04 python2 in the Y.C.M. github issue tracker, but nothing via search-engines about it not showing any autocomplete and I cannot figure out how to enable debug logging!
[18:56] <nacc> TJ-: afaict, it depends on python3 (and not python2), so it's ratherr buggy if it's using pytho2
[18:58] <TJ-> aha!
[18:58] <TJ-> nacc: yes, I've applied the fix for that in .vimrc "let g:ycm_server_python_interpreter = '/usr/bin/python3' "
[18:58] <nacc> TJ-: hrm, intneresting so maybe it's a setting thing?
[18:58] <TJ-> aha! "vim -V9" helps! --> ImportError: dynamic module does not define module export function (PyInit_ycm_core)
[18:59] <TJ-> nacc: i'm testing in a fresh 16.04 container to ensure my own  vim customisations aren't an issue
[18:59] <nacc> TJ-: ack
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim-youcompleteme/+bug/1538532 this?
[18:59] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1538532 in ycmd (Ubuntu) "Broken in Xenial, vim requires python3 now" [High,Fix released]
[19:08] <TJ-> No; that was a different problem. The packages were being built against python2 not python3. This new issue is due to there being run-time bugs not fixed by building against python3
[19:09] <TJ-> Bug #1730731
[19:09] <ubot5> bug 1730731 in vim-youcompleteme (Ubuntu) "[16.04] no autocomplete and multiple errors due to not using python3 as the default interpreter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1730731
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> cool
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: there's a neovim snap on xenial also, perhaps test there?
[19:11] <immu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoStTPLpuRw
[19:15] <immu> any where i can get HD audio for this ComeWhat May?
[19:17] <nicomachus> immu: rutracker.org
[19:18] <immu> its in russian
[19:19] <nicomachus> yea. translate the page or just find the search box
[19:22] <immu> ok
[19:27] <TJ-> Figured it out. The package maintainer doesn't know what they're doing! They rebuilt the package against Python3 but didn't update the Python extension module (ycm_core.so) to use the new Python 3 module loading requirement, which is to have an entry function PyInit_<modulename>() . So, entire package useless in 16.04
[19:27] <nacc> TJ-: well, to be honest, i'd diff the corresponding upload to debiann and ubuntu
[19:27] <nacc> ubuntu moved head of debainn in xenial
[19:28] <nacc> and i wonder if it was a buggy backport
[19:28] <nacc> TJ-: if you file a bug, i can take a look
[19:28] <TJ-> nacc: as above ^^
[19:28] <TJ-> Bug #1730731
[19:28] <ubot5> bug 1730731 in vim-youcompleteme (Ubuntu) "[16.04] no autocomplete and multiple errors due to not using python3 interpreter or extension calling conventions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1730731
[19:37] <nacc> TJ-: thanks
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> nite nite all
[21:27] <Bashing-om> !esm
[21:27] <ubot5> Canonical offers paid extended security support for 12.04 through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly.
[23:49] <oerheks> good, not connected to the internet, one problem less to worry about