[00:17] <diddledan> late dindins
[00:18] <daftykins> midnight is pretty late!
[00:20]  * penguin42 would love to know who CPC sold most of their christmas stuff to
[00:24] <daftykins> are they out of stock of it already?
[00:26] <penguin42> no, it's just they have these catalogues of it and well I'm confused who they sell to
[00:28] <diddledan> cpc have a weird product mix.. like ebuyer
[00:29] <diddledan> last ebuyer email I remember reading, they were like "look at this awesome graphics card.. and this huge pc monitor.. and this hair curler .. and this massive hard disc"
[00:30] <daftykins> wow i haven't even visited ebuyer in forever, i think i went off them because they started stinging us for shipping
[00:34] <diddledan> daftykins: look what your brethren are up to across the water: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/06/apple-jersey-tax-haven/
[00:35] <daftykins> ikr
[00:35] <daftykins> pesky Crapauds
[00:35] <daftykins> (what we call the Jersey folk)
[00:35] <diddledan> :-)
[00:36] <daftykins> i'm sure Guernsey has a tonne of such secrets though
[00:36] <diddledan> I swear "double irish" just sounds like a very strong coffee
[00:36] <penguin42> someone in another window suggested it sounded a lot more erm.....dodgy
[00:37] <diddledan> ooherr. I wouldn't have ever thought such things myself
[00:37] <diddledan> I'm pure and innocent
[00:38] <daftykins> ugh DDR4 prices are insane compared to when i did my new build last year, i got 32GB RAM then for £90
[00:38] <daftykins> now i'm seeing £130 for 16GB
[00:39] <diddledan> wow
[00:39] <diddledan> that has gone up
[00:39] <daftykins> mmhmm
[00:39] <daftykins> 2x
[00:40] <diddledan> almost as bad as the hard drives after thailand flooding
[00:40] <daftykins> ah yeah i remember that, was that ~2007? i forget
[00:40] <diddledan> I think it was 2011
[00:41] <diddledan> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/25/thailand-floods-hard-drive-shortage
[00:41] <diddledan> I warned my friends and family off from buying hard drives that xmas
[00:42] <daftykins> :>
[00:42] <daftykins> good memory, i always forget the 'when' of tech
[00:42] <diddledan> I only remember the when because facebook reminded me earlier :-p
[00:42] <daftykins> XD
[00:42] <daftykins> in what form?
[00:43] <diddledan> my warning to folk about avoiding it was highlighted as a "remember what you posted this day in 2011"
[00:43] <daftykins> ah har
[00:45] <diddledan> sounds like an important update coming soon: iOS 11.2 addresses an animation bug in the Calculator app that caused some numbers and symbols to be ignored when entered in rapid succession. The update removes the animations from the calculator app so calculations can be done quickly with no need to pause between entering numbers to obtain the correct result.
[00:45] <daftykins> heh yeah saw that one
[00:45] <daftykins> not as major as the time Google forgot an entire month in the calendar in Android though
[00:46] <diddledan> hah I don't remember that one
[00:47] <daftykins> might've been 4.0 ICS
[00:47] <diddledan> 'According to DisplayMate, the iPhone X has the "most innovative and high performance" smartphone display it has ever tested'
[00:47] <diddledan> which is strange when it's a samsung panel
[00:48] <penguin42> I think Sammy displays section are quite happy to sell them whatever they ask for
[00:49] <daftykins> i saw a piece earlier claiming the X is also the most easily damaged ever
[00:49] <ali1234> daftykins: 32GB is over £300 on scan now
[00:49] <ali1234> was £110 18 months ago
[00:49] <daftykins> then minus VAT for rock dwellers
[00:49] <daftykins> :>
[00:49] <diddledan> bloomin barnacles
[00:50] <diddledan> that's not a word I write often.. I have no idea if I spelt it anywhere near correct
[00:50] <daftykins> seems alright
[00:50] <diddledan> barnicles mebbe
[00:50] <ali1234> £101.60 to £329.99
[00:51] <ali1234> from 25th june 2016
[00:51] <ali1234> to today
[00:51] <daftykins> daym
[00:52] <ali1234> i7 6700 went from £259.40 to £285.98
[00:53] <ali1234> its also two generations out of date now
[00:53] <daftykins> mmhmm
[00:53] <diddledan> damn. my cpu is old already?!
[00:54] <daftykins> d'aww we're CPU brothers, that's mine too
[00:54] <diddledan> 1 goddamn year and it's obsolete
[00:54] <daftykins> bah not really
[00:55]  * diddledan raids the piggy
[00:55] <daftykins> i did a little low end price-up for fun as if i were to upgrade my server's core 2 duo parts, the RAM price really kills it for me
[00:57] <diddledan> oops: "Asking Siri something like "What's the temperature?" or "What's the weather?" or "Is it raining?" causes the Apple Watch to crash."
[00:58] <diddledan> I could try to find you an old goat if you don't like the ram?
[00:58] <ali1234> i want to do a build around this https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-j3160tm-itx-quad-core-intel-j3160-16ghz-ddr3-ddr3l-intel-hd-graphics-400-sata3-gbe-usb-30-thi
[00:58] <ali1234> but i can't find a suitable case
[00:59] <ali1234> it needs to have 1 pci slot and no power supply
[01:01] <daftykins> diddledan: i feel a bit sheepish about that suggestion
[01:03] <diddledan> yikes. apple got 10Beeeleon dollarydoos PROFIT! in the last quarter
[01:06] <daftykins> Look Around You taught me that numbers don't even go that high!
[01:08] <diddledan> qualcomm and apple are really going in for the dingdong: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/02/qualcomm-apple-lawsuit-helping-intel/
[01:08] <diddledan> YAFL (Yet Another F Lawsuit)
[01:09] <daftykins> and if Broadcom gets their way and acquires them to create an evil SoC overlord, we'll be in for a Godzilla like clash of the titans
[01:21] <diddledan> https://www.androidcentral.com/ten-years-ago-androids-first-public-beta-was-released
[01:22] <daftykins> :D
[01:23] <daftykins> so long ago Sergey hadn't discovered haircuts
[05:53] <MooDoo> howdy all
[10:19] <SuperMatt> NEW JERB
[10:25] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: grat\
[10:25] <MooDoo> gratz
[10:25] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: what ?
[10:32] <SuperMatt> Yelp
[10:34] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: cool, well done :)
[10:36] <SuperMatt> Thanks :)
[10:36] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: so how much does a tea boy get nowa days? ;)
[10:36] <SuperMatt> 11p/hr
[10:37] <MooDoo> sweet, i'll apply that's 10p more than I'm currently getting lol
[10:42] <Laney> and free tea!
[11:04] <MooDoo> woohoo free tea
[12:35] <diddledan> what about biscuits?!
[12:41] <SuperMatt> They've hired someone else for biscuits
[12:52] <penguin42> eating or making?
[12:53] <SuperMatt> serving
[13:11]  * penguin42 just gets them out of the packet
[15:58] <brobostigon> afternoon boys and girls.
[15:59] <penguin42> hey
[16:00] <brobostigon> hey
[19:25] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i've been running ubuntu 17.10 desktop for a week, gnome on wayland or x i'm getting frequent screen freezes, i wait a little bit and it refreshes.
[19:26] <NET||abuse> is there some known, bugginess in gnome 3.26?,
[19:27] <daftykins> ah the perils of non-LTS
[19:31] <NET||abuse> i'm getting similar freezing occasionally on 3.26 on arch also
[19:32] <penguin42> the waits sound odd, I'd do a dmesg and see if there are any moans
[23:36] <penguin42> hmph, the gritter truck is out
[23:38] <daftykins> is that nasty -10 deg C snap headed your way?
[23:38] <penguin42> I hope it's not going to be that cold
[23:40] <daftykins> saw it on a newspaper headline the other day, but not sure where it meant, maybe the outer hebrides :>
[23:43] <penguin42> metoffice is only showing as low as 2c at about 7am