[00:08] <bluesabre> Unit193, jbicha, ochosi: nice to see this conversation moving along :)
[00:29] <Unit193> bluesabre: -e s/evince/atril/ -e s/file-roller/engrampa/ -e s/gnome-calculator/mate-calc/  and we're pretty good! :D
[00:36] <bluesabre> Unit193: I'm not opposed to that, think it's something we might want to pursue?
[00:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: There's a couple changes that'd be nice (first?), but after the discussion I made the switch.
[00:39] <bluesabre> Feel free to list them off :)
[00:40] <bluesabre> bbabl
[09:31] <bluesabre> Unit193: what changes are you interested in?
[09:38] <Unit193> bluesabre: You're up early! :3
[09:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: went to bed early! :D
[09:41] <Unit193> Alt on another icon theme, spi lowered to rec.
[09:47] <bluesabre> So, pretty minimal stuff, I dig it
[09:48] <bluesabre> flocculant: thoughts on switching out a few gnome packages for mate variants?
[09:54] <Unit193> Next up: Teaching people the alphabet. >_>
[09:54] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/wVgxVQG0Af7znh4Dx9wQ
[10:02] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/pxXqdG5WFXfwNbCQRrCA full. :P
[10:05] <bluesabre> yay sorting :D
[10:06] <Unit193> app-install-data* is pointless with gnome-software.
[10:07] <bluesabre> Let's drop it
[10:09] <bluesabre> Added new item to the bp
[10:10] <bluesabre> Waiting patiently for  buildbots to start this cycle
[10:11] <Unit193> Not getting an email yet. :(
[11:24] <bluesabre> Starting to look into the pidgin theme issue now
[11:27] <bluesabre> And interesting conversation here, https://community.ubuntu.com/t/enable-dri3-by-default-in-18-04/1253/6
[18:00] <flocculant> bluesabre: I'm ok with that - as long as it's November and not March :p
[18:00] <flocculant> I did read the backlog re that stuffs
[21:57] <ochosi> bluesabre: nice, would be really kewl to get the pidgin theme on the ground... haven't had time to take a stab at that after creating the theme
[21:57] <ochosi> switching to mate apps is a possibility, although i personally like "the originals"
[21:57] <ochosi> and i don't mind the headerbars as much
[21:58] <ochosi> especially as the resize area is fairly big with them and that has been a complaint with e.g. Greybird (but also Numix and others)
[22:36] <knome> shouldn't gtk3 fix the resize area issue? :P
[22:43] <ochosi> only with CSD/headerbars
[22:43] <bluesabre> knome: CSDs resolve the resize area, other apps don't benefit from the hidden grab handles
[22:43] <knome> right
[22:47] <bluesabre> We could force CSD for all GTK3 applications, but that would upset more than it would please :)
[22:48] <ochosi> i wouldn't be upset
[22:48] <ochosi> i generally try to be upset less
[22:48] <knome> heh
[22:49] <knome> ochosi, it's easier now, isn't it?
[22:49] <ochosi> also: headerbars work for certain apps
[22:49] <ochosi> maybe not for all, but for many
[22:49] <bluesabre> I mean, using GTK_CSD=1 to get the titlebar rendered by gtk
[22:51] <ochosi> oh right
[22:51] <ochosi> no, i'm not a huge fan of that
[22:51] <ochosi> i'd rather look into creating apps with CSD that are like catfish
[22:51] <ochosi> e.g. the taskmanager
[22:52] <ochosi> i already reworked it with CSD, works really well that way
[22:55] <bluesabre> :)
[22:55] <bluesabre> gotta run for now, bbl
[22:59] <knome> yeah, i'm fleeing as well