[01:13] <schnoodles> Can you not sort pinned applications anymore ?
[03:29] <CoJaBo> ..so is there a reason sysrq is disabled by default? that seems kinda important..
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:50] <batteronizer> Hi how are?
[07:50] <batteronizer> Which VNC server is recommended to use with KDE?
[08:03] <hateball> hmmm, I thought there used to be a builtin thing
[08:04] <hateball> !info krfb
[08:05] <hateball> batteronizer: this is the "KDE" way I think ^
[08:05] <batteronizer> Can it be configured without UI?
[08:06] <batteronizer> I tried searching, but only found UI methods for configuring it so far.
[08:06] <hateball> Well if you are running Kubuntu, you have a gui by default
[08:06] <batteronizer> It's an Ubuntu server
[08:07] <batteronizer> The only way I can configure anything before using is through a config file over a console.
[08:24] <lordievader> I usually go with x11vnc or tigervnc. (rarely do vnc these days)
[08:27] <hateball> Dear Plasmashell, stop freezing intermittently. Sincerely, me.
[08:27]  * hateball screams internally
[08:46] <batteronizer> hateball: I went offline. Arethere logs available for this IRC channel?
[08:46] <lordievader> batteronizer: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[08:46] <batteronizer> lordievader: Thanks
[09:09] <batteronizer> All logs not availableyet :-/
[09:10] <batteronizer> Does anyone else know if krfb can be configured without a GUI?
[10:05] <ForceRecon> Morning everyone
[10:05] <jubo2> G'morning ForceRecon
[10:10] <lordievader> o/
[10:11] <ForceRecon> is the sun up over where you guys are
[10:12] <jubo2> \o lordievader
[10:12] <lordievader> Hey jubo2
[10:12] <lordievader> ForceRecon: For a couple of hours already.
[10:16] <ForceRecon> what do you live in africa?
[10:17] <ForceRecon> ahh south america
[10:17] <ForceRecon> that's cool.. still dark here
[10:17] <ForceRecon> on 5:18am
[10:17] <ForceRecon> only*
[10:18] <lordievader> I don't live in Africa.
[10:18] <lordievader> Its 11:18 here.
[10:18] <ForceRecon> Position of the Sun
[10:18] <ForceRecon> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 10:16:00 UTC the Sun is at its zenith at Latitude: 16° 41' South, Longitude: 21° 57' East
[10:18] <ForceRecon> The ground speed is currently 444.41 meters/second
[10:18] <ForceRecon> that is fast..
[10:19] <lordievader> ForceRecon: maybe you want to move to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[10:19] <ForceRecon> oh.. I was not aware
[10:19] <ForceRecon> there was one
[10:19] <ForceRecon> will do
[10:23] <trevize> hello
[10:23] <trevize> I have the strangest problem perhaps someone could help me
[10:23] <trevize> I recently changed system region to  try to fix another error
[10:23] <trevize> then I reverted back to my original region
[10:24] <trevize> but now I have most of the widget texts messed up
[10:24] <trevize> window titles on task manager have letters missing
[10:24] <trevize> even clock has missing characters
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:40] <chomwitt> i have serious stability issues with a ralink wifi card in xenial.
[15:07] <aiena> I just installed kubnut 17.10 in a VM and I noticed that ifconfig is no longer available by default on the base system what is the reason for this is there a better alternative to list interfaces. Is only network manager available?
[15:07] <aiena> *kubuntu
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ifconfig hs been replaced by ip add, altho ifconfig coommand still works on bare metal
[15:10] <BluesKaj> dunno about vms
[15:11] <BluesKaj> 'scuse the spelling
[15:11] <BluesKaj> alewife,^
[15:11] <BluesKaj> aiena, ^
[15:12] <aiena> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:22] <aiena> BluesKaj: and what about ifup, ifdown?
[16:26] <lordievader> Those have not been replaced.
[16:26] <lordievader> aiena: ^
[16:28] <aiena> lordievader: Ok thank you
[19:43] <ajbone> Hello, I've used debian on my pc for years and have now decided to switch to ubuntu. All thats held me back is not wanting to part with KDE desktop. Is there an option of KDE in ubuntu or if not, would kubuntu have all the functionality of ubuntu?  Thanks1;2c1;2c
[19:44] <lordievader> Kubuntu is Ubuntu + KDE, if I understand your question correctly.
[19:49] <ajbone> sounds perfect. sorry I read my question again and its not very clear. Would kubuntu have a software repository that is in sync with or very close to ubuntu?
[19:53] <lordievader> Kubuntu builds on Ubuntu. It uses the same repo.
[19:56] <ajbone> awesome, thanks a lot for your help =)
[22:13] <slawek> Hi
[22:45] <viewer|80984> hi there, im pretty new to linux and kubuntu
[22:45] <viewer|80984> i set my wallpaper and after i reboot it just sets it back to black
[22:47] <valorie> viewer|80984: how did you set it?
[22:47] <valorie> and which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[22:49] <viewer|80984> i set it through Desktop Settings
[22:49] <viewer|80984> and how do i check which version?
[22:49] <valorie> any KDE application Help > about
[22:49] <valorie> or krunner / alt+f4 About
[22:50] <viewer|80984> kubuntu 16.014, kde plasma 5.5.5
[22:50] <valorie> hmmm
[22:51] <valorie> I always right-click on the desktop and "configure desktop"
[22:52] <valorie> I don't see any "desktop settings" as such
[22:52] <viewer|80984> i havent updated kde, i might want to do that
[22:52] <valorie> but then I'm running a much newer plasma and kwin
[22:52] <viewer|80984> yeah kubuntu has 5.5.5, and im going to upgrade it to 5.8 to see if it will be better
[22:52] <valorie> you are running 16.04 with no upgrades or updates?
[22:53] <valorie> I believe we're up to 16.04.3 by now
[22:53] <valorie> you want to keep that up-to-date for security, if nothing else
[22:54] <viewer|80984> so how do i update everything?
[22:54] <viewer|80984> sudo apt update?
[22:55] <slawek> hello
[22:56] <valorie> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgraded
[22:56] <valorie> oops
[22:56] <valorie> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:56] <valorie> no d on the end
[22:56] <valorie> update merely brings your source repos up to date
[22:57] <valorie> the upgrade part actually upgrades the software you have installed
[22:57] <viewer|80984> then reboot?
[22:57] <valorie> if it says to, which it presumably will
[22:57] <slawek> I am having a problem with sound after upgrade - no soundcard is detected
[22:57] <valorie> slawek: upgrade from what to what?
[22:58] <slawek> just apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <valorie> from what?
[22:58] <valorie> we have two supported LTS, last release and our new one
[22:58] <valorie> !sound
[22:58] <slawek> 17.10 - actually
[22:58] <valorie> ok
[22:59] <valorie> me too
[22:59] <valorie> are you running backports or any other PPAs, slawek?
[22:59] <viewer|80984> valorie after i update kde plasma with backports will i have too reboot and change the desktop enviroment, or does it upgrade plasma all together
[23:00] <valorie> viewer|80984: ? once you reboot, you are upgraded
[23:00] <valorie> there should be nothing to do after that
[23:00] <slawek> @ubottu - I am checking your links
[23:01] <valorie> if you are still on stock 16.04, it will take awhile; there are lots of upgrades to do
[23:01] <valorie> whether or not you use backports
[23:04] <viewer|80984> okay cool, i got it figured out
[23:07] <slawek> okay - I've checked the basics troubleshooting for sound problems
[23:07] <slawek> soundcard is detected
[23:07] <valorie> cool
[23:07] <slawek> seems to be activated
[23:07] <valorie> I usually just use alsamixer first
[23:07] <slawek> valorie - I used it as well
[23:07] <valorie> so often something is muted for some reason
[23:08] <slawek> everything that is used is with ++
[23:08] <slawek> so also looks fine
[23:08] <slawek> the problem is, that in KDE sound options, there is no soundacr at all
[23:09] <slawek> to be more precise - no sound device to playbackas well as record audio
[23:09] <valorie> hmmm
[23:09] <valorie> how about pavucontrol?
[23:10] <valorie> if that isn't installed, it's the easiest way to mess with pulseaudio
[23:10] <valorie> if you don't like it you can always uninstall
[23:10] <mpc> so what's the best wiki/info about fully loading your kodi box?
[23:10] <valorie> !kodi
[23:10] <slawek> the aplay command says that the device is budy
[23:10] <valorie> hmmm
[23:10] <slawek> *busy
[23:10] <valorie> !info kodi
[23:11] <slawek> "connection to pulseaudio failed" :/
[23:11] <valorie> mpc -- I don't know
[23:11] <valorie> oh gosh, slawek
[23:11] <slawek> that is what pavucontrol says
[23:12] <valorie> this is my suggestion -- make a new user, called Testsound or something
[23:12] <valorie> you don't even have to log out of this session, but log into that one
[23:12] <valorie> and see if your sound works
[23:12] <valorie> if it does, you know it is something in your configs
[23:12] <valorie> or in ~/.local possibly
[23:14] <slawek> let me check that
[23:20] <slawek> hi again - unfortunately no sound on new user account
[23:20] <valorie> yikes
[23:21] <valorie> sounds like somewhere along the line your soundcard isn't supported
[23:21] <slawek> hmm, yesterday it was :)
[23:21] <valorie> I guess you could purge pulseaudio and see if that helps?
[23:21] <slawek> it worked fine
[23:21] <valorie> I mean, you can always re-install
[23:21] <slawek> okay, we see
[23:22] <valorie> what exactly was upgraded, slawek?
[23:22] <valorie> I'm no expert -- just have wrestled with sound issues in the past myself
[23:22] <slawek> valorie - kernel for sure - it asked for reboot
[23:23] <slawek> besides - just some icon packs
[23:24] <slawek> reboot brb in a minutr
[23:25] <valorie> hmmm
[23:30] <slawek> valorie - purging pulseaudio worked fine - thanks!
[23:30] <slawek> now I just do not have the sound control icon ;)
[23:30] <slawek> but I am googling the package name :)
[23:32] <slawek> okay - kmix is just fine
[23:33] <valorie> cool, glad that worked for you
[23:33] <valorie> perhaps next kernel will fix whatever the problem was
[23:34] <slawek> I suppose so
[23:34] <valorie> my next suggestion was going to be booting into the previous kernel to find out if that was the culprit
[23:34] <slawek> anyway - almost half a year w/o sound problem - and bam! here it is
[23:34] <slawek> it used to be a pain in the a** for me couple of years ago
[23:34] <slawek> now I supposed it is already gon
[23:34] <slawek> *gonr
[23:34] <valorie> so many working parts -- it's amazing when it *does* work
[23:57] <John85> lo
[23:58] <John85> i need help setting up ufw....i have tried google,  but still have no idea what ports and what adresses i should allow or block