[00:02] <chomwitt> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25928526    line 38 . maybe should not go for the edge?
[00:04] <nacc> chomwitt: ah you are using the binary nvidia drivers?
[00:04] <nacc> chomwitt: yes, you might want the regular hwe stack thenn
[00:07] <chomwitt> nacc: ch)mw!tt
[00:07] <chomwitt> forget that..
[00:07] <nacc> chomwitt: :)
[00:07] <chomwitt> trying to search to see if i have binart nvidia drivers
[00:08] <nacc> chomwitt: well it cleary tried to build them
[00:09] <chomwitt> nacc: so do i purge edge and install hwe again?
[00:14] <nacc> chomwitt: you can, i'm ont sure you need to purge edge (yet), i'd get hwe installed firs
[00:17] <chomwitt> nacc: still getting that error related to nvidia
[00:17] <nacc> chomwitt: for the edge kernel?
[00:18] <chomwitt> but  grub is generated ok .should i reboot? i'm kind of loosing momentum.
[00:18] <nacc> chomwitt: if it was only for the edge kernel, it will keep happening until you purge it
[00:18] <nacc> chomwitt: if it was for the kernel you want to boot to, well, donn't boot to it yet :)
[00:19] <chomwitt> nacc: i purged the edge kernel prior to installing hwe
[00:20] <nacc> chomwitt: ok
[00:20] <nacc> chomwitt: can you paste the log?
[00:21] <chomwitt> yep
[00:23] <chomwitt> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25928606    sorry for the greeks
[00:23] <nacc> chomwitt: it's ok
[00:24] <nacc> chomwitt: can you pastebin n /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-367/367.57/build/make.log
[00:24] <chomwitt> yep
[00:26] <chomwitt> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25928619
[00:29] <nacc> chomwitt: if i'm reading it right, you're on a *really* out of date nvidia driver
[00:29] <nacc> chomwitt: apt-cache policy nvidia-367
[00:29] <nacc> chomwitt: i think yuou are o n367.57 and you should be on 375.66
[00:30] <Venko> When booting Ubuntun from a USD drive how do I mount the internal NTFS partitions?
[00:30] <chomwitt> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25928641
[00:31] <nacc> chomwitt: yeah, that's wonky
[00:31] <nacc> chomwitt: i think you need to first install the current version of that driver
[00:31] <chomwitt> wonky?
[00:31] <nacc> chomwitt: e.g., sudo apt install nvidia-367
[00:31] <chomwitt> sok
[00:31] <chomwitt> ok
[00:31] <nacc> chomwitt: it's like you installed a .deb
[00:31] <nacc> chomwitt: or manually insatlled a particular version of this pacakge, and then never updated it
[00:31] <v0lksman> I have a Trusty system that for some reason when I run hostname it provides the hostname I've set (and is shown in the cli prompt) but if I run hostname -f it responds with localhost.  I've setup many systems and set the host names the same way and only this particular system seems to be stuck on localhost.  Any ideas why or where I can look to figure this out?  /etc/hostname has the correct hostname
[00:32] <nacc> chomwitt: i.e., a `sudo apt upgrade` should be telling you it is going to upgrade that package already
[00:34] <chomwitt> nacc: no, sudo apt upgrade dont mention it
[00:34] <nacc> chomwitt: maybe full-upgrade would?
[00:34] <chomwitt> nacc: yep!
[00:35] <chomwitt> nacc: but i dont have stable connection for a full upgrade . can i update only nvidia , and then try again to install hwe?
[00:35] <nacc> chomwitt: yeah
[00:36] <omgina> hi
[00:36] <omgina> how do i install cryptsetup for luks? no such pkg
[00:37] <omgina> plese advice
[00:37] <nacc> omgina: what version of ubuntu?
[00:37] <Bryson> I have a Docker container based on the official ubuntu 16.04:latest base image. Building this in production runs just fine, but building it in Jenkins fails to update packages from apt with a release file missing and 403 error. error output from docker build: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25928667/ Why does it work someplaces and fail other places?
[00:37] <nacc> Bryson: probably proxy stuff
[00:38] <john_rambo> What is the command that will  tell me if I am running Wayland ?
[00:38] <nacc> john_rambo: ps aux | grep -i wayland ?
[00:38] <john_rambo> nacc, Thanks
[00:38] <nacc> john_rambo: not sure, but that should work
[00:39] <omgina> xenial nacc
[00:39] <nacc> !info cryptsetup xenial | omgina
[00:39] <oerheks> omgina, apt-get install cryptsetup
[00:44] <chomwitt> nacc: ok nvidia installed-build ok . now to i reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe ?
[00:44] <nacc> chomwitt: i think so, or you might be able to trigger a dkms rebuild manually
[00:44] <nacc> oerheks: --^ do you knonw?
[00:46] <Bryson> nacc: where would this proxy be?
[00:46] <nacc> Bryson: not sure, but i thinnk it's pretty common with docker
[00:46] <nacc> Bryson: i don't use it, so i'm not sure
[00:46] <oerheks> i think ' sudo dpkg --configure -a'  would trigger that?
[00:46] <nacc> Bryson: i'd ask the docker channel, though, it's not exactly an ubuntu question, probably
[00:47] <nacc> oerheks: possibly, yeah
[00:47] <oerheks> else: sudo dkms install <module>
[00:52] <omgina> give me a practical use of docker
[00:52] <omgina> as we already have firejail sandbox/virtualbox
[00:52] <nacc> omgina: offtopic for this channel
[00:52] <omgina> docker is famous
[00:53] <nacc> omgina: so?
[00:53] <omgina> just curious have heard a lot and read several times on wikipedia
[00:53] <omgina> but didn't get it
[00:53] <oerheks> omgina, then you can answer it yourself
[00:53] <nacc> omgina: that's nice, this is the ubuntu support channel, please stay on topic.
[00:54] <jrp93> We did it guys
[00:54] <jrp93> Mr_H's array is fixed :)
[00:55] <Mr_H> thanks jrp93! All my data is safe again! (hopefully at least, waiting for rebuid)
[00:55] <oerheks> nice, now backup
[00:55] <Mr_H> oerheks: word!
[00:55] <jrp93> Yeah seriously
[00:55] <Mr_H> I was planning on pushing everything to the cloud one week before the mobo died, but I wasn't worried since I ordered the excact same model...
[00:56] <Mr_H> today was a real nightmare until jrp93 came to my rescue!
[00:57] <omgina> how do I add several time clocks of other countries?
[00:57] <jrp93> Mdadm is a nightmare lol
[00:58] <omgina> as soon as i add second one the first one disappears
[00:58] <omgina> naac
[00:58] <Mr_H> and I still have no idea why it suddenly decided 2 out of 4 disks should change from RAID5 to RAID0
[00:58] <Mr_H> must be a hidden feature
[00:59] <jrp93> You should really sign up for g suite though
[00:59] <jrp93> And get acquainted with rclone
[01:00] <oerheks> omgina, find a gnome plugin like multiclock?
[01:00] <omgina> pkg name
[01:01] <nacc> oerheks: not sure that will help on n16.04 (probably uninty)
[01:01] <Mr_H> jrp93: yeah, but I don't like having all my data at google. I'm already using Gsuite, so they have all my mail and mostly everything else in my life already :P
[01:01] <nacc> *unity
[01:01] <Mr_H> trying to keep the last pieces private :D
[01:01] <jrp93> Mr_H, you can encrypt everything
[01:02] <Mr_H> using rclone on the fly?
[01:02] <jrp93> https://rclone.org/crypt/
[01:02] <Mr_H> sweet :)
[01:02] <jrp93> Yes. It's life changing shit.
[01:02] <jrp93> stuff*
[01:02] <oerheks> omgina, care to share what ubuntu version?
[01:02] <Mr_H> oooh, baby! this is the shit I've been looking for
[01:03] <Mr_H> I think this was something I read about the week before actually, but I thought it was specifically for hubic
[01:03] <omgina> xenial
[01:04] <nacc> jrp93: Mr_H: please watch the language in the channel (channel rule)
[01:04] <jrp93> Yeah my bad, I corrected myself
[01:04] <Mr_H> nacc: sorry
[01:04] <jrp93> Nasty habit
[01:05] <oerheks> just add them to timezones, no need to install anything? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/add-time-zones-world-clock-ubuntu  post says it is old, but still valid
[01:06] <Mr_H> jrp93: is rclone monitoring the FS for changes also or just running regurarly with cron?
[01:07] <jrp93> Cron, if you want something like that use duplicity
[01:08] <Mr_H> I have duplicity on my desktop going to my NAS, but soon I'll have rclone from my NAS to cloud also
[01:09] <Mr_H> just waiting for the disks to rebuild
[01:09] <Mr_H> 4.1% now
[01:09] <Mr_H> I think I'll go to bed and wake up happy tomorrow :)
[01:09] <jrp93> :)
[01:09] <Mr_H> thanks again jrp93, you really saved me today!
[01:10] <jrp93> My pleasure!
[01:10] <Mr_H> hopefully there will be no poweroutage tonight :'D it's a lot of thunder and lightning outside
[01:11] <SubCool> Ok, i know this is reviewed many times, but im not useing hte right words on google. I can not view the NFS share's folders. I can mount the directory, i can see the root folders in the directory, but i cant see anything past that.
[01:11] <jrp93> A UPS is your next purchase :)
[01:12] <Mr_H> yeah, I've been looking at one, but I spent all my money on disks :D
[01:13] <Mr_H> the online UPS's are to expensive :(
[01:13] <lordcirth> SubCool, sounds like permissions issue?
[01:13] <lordcirth> SubCool, if you run 'ls -l' in the directory, who owns the files?
[01:14] <SubCool> root
[01:14] <lordcirth> SubCool, and you are running ls as root?
[01:14] <SubCool> i run mount as root
[01:15] <chomwitt> nacc: ok. i reboot with kernel 4.13 . my newer wireless adaptor seem pretty stable by now . thanks again. although for a moment i though i was getting into an alice's rabbit hole :-)
[01:15] <lordcirth> SubCool, what are the permissions on the directories?
[01:15] <SubCool> root
[01:15] <jrp93> SubCool, do you want them to only be accessible by root?
[01:15] <lordcirth> SubCool, not owner, permissions.  644, or rwxr--r-- for example
[01:16] <SubCool> hhmm, well.. if i goto the root before the viewable folders i wanna see, its owned by my user
[01:16] <SubCool> ok, let me try something..
[01:16] <lordcirth> Also, did you configure NFS with no_root_squash ?
[01:16] <SubCool> not sure what that is.
[01:17] <lordcirth> then no.  Just checking.  So are the directories readable and executable by your user?
[01:20] <SubCool> so  /mnt/NAS/STorage/ is owned by user 1001. /mnt/NAS/Storage/Folders/ are owned by root
[01:23] <lordcirth> SubCool, yeah, so a number like '1001' is a user id (uid).  A uid which doesn't exist on the client, and therefore you're not the owner.
[01:24] <chomwitt> i have two wireless cards (one pci one usb). i want to complete turnoff the one from the command line or gui. i tried with ifupdown but it keeps trying to connect once in a few minutes!
[01:25] <lordcirth> chomwitt, some laptops have a hardware switch to disable internal wifi; does yours?
[01:25] <chomwitt> lordcirth: its a desktop
[01:25] <SubCool> lordcirth, yeah- thats it. according to some guides, (which i disagree with) the only way to make the files viewable, is by having the same uid on my guest as the host.. which i have.
[01:25] <lordcirth> Ok.  Have you considered just unplugging the wifi card?
[01:26] <chomwitt> lordcirth: its the pci that its unstable.
[01:26] <lordcirth> SubCool, not the only way, but the best, generally.  You can also set them world-readable if there's nothing sensitive.
[01:26] <chomwitt> pci-card
[01:26] <lordcirth> chomwitt, right, so why not remove it?
[01:27] <chomwitt> i guess i ll do that !! :-)
[01:27] <lordcirth> You could probably blacklist the driver to disable it in software, but simplicity
[01:27] <SubCool> its a closed network, but... still not a fan.
[01:27] <kostkon> chomwitt, take it out?
[01:27] <lordcirth> SubCool, you could use sshfs instead of NFS?
[01:27] <kostkon> chomwitt, you said it's pci (i assume pci-e?)
[01:28] <lordcirth> SubCool, or you can try mapping, I haven't done it myself: https://serverfault.com/questions/514118/mapping-uid-and-gid-of-local-user-to-the-mounted-nfs-share
[01:28]  * chomwitt gets up from the chair.... unscrew screws... unscrew another screw .... removing pci wifi very old old card....
[01:28] <chomwitt> kostkon: no. old pci
[01:28] <SubCool> lordcirth, im using smb shares too, but its sooo buggy.
[01:28] <kostkon> chomwitt, how old is the pc
[01:29] <chomwitt> kostkon: no the pc in not so old. amd-phenom ii x4 965
[01:30] <jrp93> chomwitt, black edition?
[01:30] <chomwitt> jrp93: not sure,.. probably not
[01:31] <nacc> chomwitt: cool, sorry was afk -- if you want, i ca help you clean it up more tmrw
[01:36] <chomwitt> nacc: np. you helped  me alot!!
[01:38] <nacc> chomwitt: it's end of day for me now, but i'll be around most of tmrw
[01:39] <chomwitt> nacc: likewise.  goodnigth from central greece . see u tomorrow!! ubuntu rocks!
[01:40] <dl21> hi all, i am running ubuntu 17.04 and i just updated and now i cant access the internet. my local network is working and i can ping google dns servers but nothing else. can someone help me out please
[01:41] <jwash> hi everyone, i want to make a new resolution for the Optoma like this http://i.imgur.com/gbLbf7Q.png 1718x966. Right now I'm doing it with viewportin 1718x966, viewportout 1718x966+101+56, and panning 1718x966. I'd like to add a mode 1718x966. Here is my xorg.conf https://www.apaste.info/Qq7M . Would someone please assist me in getting my new mode added? the problem is that programs still think i'm on 1920x1080 and the right side
[01:41] <jwash> and bottom of windows is cut off.
[02:24] <ylwghst> Hello
[02:32] <ylwghst> I set lid switch action to ignore in logind.conf
[02:34] <ylwghst> Now when I close the lid of my laptop the display goes off and then again on
[02:35] <ylwghst> Same thing happens when I open it
[02:35] <ylwghst> Can I some how disable this behaviour ??
[02:35] <ylwghst> Or what handles it?
[02:35] <ylwghst> I want to display stay on even if lid is closed
[02:35] <ylwghst> or siwtched
[02:37] <ponyrider> ylwghst: you ahve to restart logind.service
[02:37] <ylwghst> ponyrider: this is working
[02:37] <ylwghst> systemd ignores the switch
[02:38] <ylwghst> the machine stays up
[02:39] <doug16k> ylwghst, why would you want the screen to stay on with the lid closed? just curious
[02:39] <ylwghst> the problem is that if i close/open the lid display turns off and on (flashes for second)
[02:39] <ylwghst> doug16k: i have my own acpi suspend script to hadnle it
[02:39] <doug16k> oh
[02:41] <ylwghst> by default its handled by logind but if i close lid the screen goes off then on and then again off and after that is machine suspended
[02:43] <ylwghst> i switched from other distro where i get rid of this flash by using acpid own script the screen stayed still on while logind ignored it not on ubuntu :/
[03:10] <m0o> my ubuntu is doing something weird, whenever i turn off my monitor it will reset my gnome shell
[03:10] <m0o> it's almost like it's seeing the monitor power button as a machine on/off power button
[03:47] <x4i> HI! Ubuntu 17.10. I installed python and pip using apt-get, and then jupyter via pip (without sudo). Now when i try to run jupyter it says that it is not installed
[03:47] <x4i> i tried google but found nothing
[03:47] <x4i> is it a a PATHissue?
[03:48] <oerheks> using pip with sudo ? uh oh
[03:48] <oerheks> and why install python, python3 is standard
[03:51] <x4i> without sudo
[03:51] <x4i> i installed whatever apt-get install python got me
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:29] <okaycool> Hey I want to track a folder on code level like what is changed in that folder
[04:29] <okaycool> Same like git
[04:30] <DaemonFC> Is there some reason for Wine-Gecko no longer being available?
[04:50] <nadio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto  I am trying to add courier-imap service, but for some reason I can not get it to auth with PAM, anyone mind taking a look if they see any errors ? https://pastebin.com/vN8ZAhsx
[04:52] <Sparky2> Hello! I uhmm- improperly shut down ubuntu the last time I rebooted and now my computer automatically boots into windows instead of giving me the boot selection screen, any ideas?
[04:57] <zmoazeni> Hi there. I have a pretty noob-ish question regarding btrfs and backups. Is anyone around who could help me out? Or perhaps suggest another room to check out/ask?
[05:00] <omgyes> Hello, I have a question. I've been trying to get a script to start automatically at the kernel level. I tried using cron but nothing I do works! Any help would be much appreciated.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Sparky2: try to enter grub and edit again
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !grub | Sparky2
[05:42] <buu> Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on with this iperf3 run? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25929840/
[05:44] <ratzz> I'm trying to build a Ubuntu failover cluster using a shared disk, much like a windows failover cluster, what would be the equivalent?
[05:44] <ratzz> in Ubuntu
[06:29] <alkisg> I once tried `cat binaryfile` and it displayed a header line and then it stopped, and didn't display the rest of the binary contents. Which special character causes `cat` to stop printing in ttys? (or was it back in the windows days with `type`? not sure... :D)
[06:31] <Triffid_Hunter> alkisg: nothing to do with cat, it just copies verbatim from stdin to stdout. more likely the terminal itself picked up some control character and barfed. If that ever happens, type 'reset' in the terminal to reconfigure it
[06:31] <alkisg> Triffid_Hunter: I'm writing my own file format and I want to include that character right after a text header, so that it doesn't break people's ttys when printed
[06:31]  * alkisg searches `man xterm` instead... :)
[06:37] <alkisg> "The DOS Control-Z byte is actually sent and/or placed in files to  indicate where the text ends. In contrast the Control-D causes the Unix  terminal driver to signal the EOF condition, which is not a character, while the byte has no special meaning if actually read or written from a file or terminal."
[06:38] <alkisg> ...yeah I was remembering the old dos days :D
[06:43] <JacobV> I want to copy a whole drive image to my external using dd
[06:43] <JacobV> Do I need to wipe the device first?
[06:44] <JacobV> By device I mean the external
[06:44] <Triffid_Hunter> JacobV: overwrite implicitly wipes
[06:46] <JacobV> So it's just dd if=DriveImage.img of=/dev/sdc
[06:46] <JacobV> do I need to add any other parameters?
[06:46] <JacobV> It's a usb 2.0 drive which is 500GB
[06:47] <Triffid_Hunter> JacobV: nope that should do it.. it may run a bit faster if you use bs=16M or so though, try to exceed the flash's erase block size
[06:47] <JacobV> flash?
[06:49] <Triffid_Hunter> JacobV: USB disks, SSDs, SD cards, etc all use flash memory. one of the 'features' of flash is that you can't erase individual bytes, only an entire block at a time. some flash storage has an erase block size of multiple megabytes - I've seen as high as 8MB and I'm sure there's bigegr ones now
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> JacobV: also, flash is all 1s when erased and you can only flip bits from 1 to 0 - so if you want to change a single bit from 0 to 1 you have to copy the entire block into RAM, erase it, change that one bit in ram then write the block back to flash
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> which, btw, is why 4k random write speed is often atrocious on USB and SD storage
[06:55] <JacobV> I might just leave the command as default
[06:56] <Junior> hello!
[06:57] <Junior> I am moving my servers up to a cloud instance, i am installing from scratch ubuntu 16.04 and i am at the "partition" step, i am not 100% sure if i should use LVM or not - keeping into account that i know how much disk space i want and the probability of me needing more disks is pretty low
[06:57] <Junior> at my current setup i use "old partitioning" leaving the "home" partition last in case i need more space to be able to add using gparted
[06:58] <Junior> any opinions?
[06:58] <Triffid_Hunter> Junior: no need for LVM unless you want to do something fancier than raid with multiple disks
[06:58] <Triffid_Hunter> Junior: I use BTRFS for single disks - it does LVM-like stuff at the filesystem level rather than block level
[06:58] <Junior> Triffid_Hunter, the hardware of the vps provider probably already has that,
[06:59] <Junior> So theoretically because i am installing on the cloud i would not need it - i know that i can allocate more space for my server so i will leave again the last partition that i will need - home or var last to be able to expand it using gparted
[07:01] <Junior> for example this is a db server that i want to move - https://pastebin.com/gUuw0zk0 - i keep the db data on /srv
[07:33] <slingamn> my  /etc/sysctl.d/10-ipv6-privacy.conf includes:
[07:33] <slingamn> net.ipv6.conf.all.use_tempaddr = 2
[07:33] <slingamn> net.ipv6.conf.default.use_tempaddr = 2
[07:33] <slingamn> but my interface still comes up with a non-private ipv6 address
[07:34] <slingamn> this is on 17.10, sorry
[07:40] <gnomethrower> Junior: use LVM.
[07:40] <gnomethrower> it doesn't really "cost" anything and can be a big help later
[07:40] <gnomethrower> things like live-expanding onto a second disk without having to reboot
[07:41] <alkisg> It does add some complexity though, that's something to think about as well
[07:43] <gnomethrower> alkisg: yes, that's fair.
[07:43] <gnomethrower> but having LVM has saved my ass a few times :)
[07:43] <alkisg> Some tools are very good and can help people that know about them a lot. But they may get people that don't know how to use them well into trouble :)
[07:44] <alkisg> So currently in whatever I'm doing, I'm also respecting KISS as much as I can...
[07:44] <gnomethrower> I wouldn't hesitate to say people should use the default LVM settings, regardless of skill level or knowledge
[07:44] <gnomethrower> but they shouldn't touch LVM directly or indirectly if they don't know what they're doing ;)
[07:45] <gnomethrower> indeed Ubuntu installs as LVM by default now, doesn't it?
[07:45] <alkisg> No, afaik it doesn't
[07:45] <gnomethrower> Oh. Hmm. I wonder why I have that misconception then
[07:45] <alkisg> It offers an option for that, but it's not the default, afaik
[07:45] <ducasse> you need the check the little box in the installer
[07:47] <gnomethrower> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm#Moving_Partitions <- Wow, that's super cool. I actually had no idea LVM could do that
[07:48] <alkisg> This is indeed cool: "When I got my SSD drive, I simply plugged it in, booted it up, and asked  lvm to move my running root filesystem to the new drive in the  background while I continued working."
[07:48] <gnomethrower> ^ that's specifically what I'm referring to ;)
[07:49] <capella> can move a partition while it is in use without corruption is cool
[07:49] <capella> ,
[07:49] <gnomethrower> capella: Yes, but moving a partition to a different drive is next level cool :)
[07:50] <capella> I assumed that in the basic use-case ,,, so yah it is !  :-D
[07:51] <capella> now how does my Win partition screw that up   :-/
[07:52] <capella> Breaking things is fun
[07:56] <Cypher100> I'm having an issue with my monitor not turning off, when I lock the system it only dims the screen, and only shows a black screen with a cursor. But the monitor remains on
[07:57] <Cypher100> I've been googling for about 2 hours, and there is nothing out there about this
[07:58] <Toadisattva> I likely don't have an answer but it may help to post your monitor make/model and which os/disto you are using
[07:59] <ducasse> Cypher100: which release is this?
[07:59] <Cypher100> Ubuntu 16.04.3, Monitor is Acer XF270HU, connected via DisplayPort from a GTX 1080
[08:02] <Cypher100> I did "xset dpms force off", and it makes the monitor turn dark for a second, then it just displays a black screen with my backlight still on
[08:03] <ducasse> which driver?
[08:03] <Cypher100> Using 387.12
[08:05] <ducasse> does it behave the same if you try nouveau for example, or does that not work at all?
[08:05] <Cypher100> nouveau does not work at all
[08:05] <Cypher100> I had to use nomodeset to install the drivers
[08:07] <ducasse> right. do any other versions of the nvidia driver work?
[08:07] <Cypher100> I had the same symptoms on older versions
[08:08] <Cypher100> also only using 1 monitor
[08:10] <ducasse> i see. it's hard to say where the problem could be, and i can't find anything on it. can you test with a different monitor to narrow it down?
[08:12] <Cypher100> Yeah, I have another monitor in storage, but it's getting late for me. I'll come back later today. In the mean time, I'll just hit the monitor button lol
[08:12] <ducasse> ok :)
[08:13] <Cypher100> I do remember having this same issue on this same system a couple of years ago, I was using a GTX 980, and a much older 1440p monitor
[08:13] <Cypher100> never got it fixed then too lol
[08:36] <lorddoskias> is anyone using : http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/Archer-T4U.html with latest 16.04 HWE kernel ?
[08:36] <lorddoskias> i'd like to know if it is supported
[08:57] <BlakJak> Anyone know if it's possible to restore non-grouped alt-tab behavior in Ubuntu 17.10?
[09:11] <mike13b13> Hi, can someone help me to debug s2disk/hibernate that randomly hangs on 0% when saving image plz?
[09:24] <salv0> I have configured network manager to run a wireless network interface as a hotspot and it is working fine
[09:25] <salv0> But now, I would like to add some persistent iptables rules for that interface
[09:25] <salv0> What is the easier way for doing that?
[09:28] <tocka> hi guys
[09:28] <tocka> can I add an IP address range to my hosts file?
[09:29] <tocka> lets say like 192.30.252.0/22 github.com
[09:29] <tocka> ?
[09:29] <tocka> would it work or is it not the right way to do this?
[09:30] <ducasse> tocka: won't work, /etc/hosts is only for individual addresses
[09:30] <tocka> ducasse: could you suggest another sollution for this?
[09:32] <ducasse> tocka: describe the problem you're trying to solve, see what people suggest
[09:33] <tocka> basically, im running ubuntu 14.04 on a virtualbox, I have set it up so that the guest machine would get internet from the host, but now I started using a VPN on the host machine (ExpressVPN) and the guest DNS servers sort of got all mangled up..
[09:33] <tocka> I can ping the ip addresses of services
[09:33] <tocka> but I cant ping the actual domain names
[09:34] <tocka> so this solution - adding ips with domains is sort of like a temporary workaround but if anyone has any better solutions please tell me :D
[09:36] <Ben64> if you can get to IPs, set a dns server
[09:47] <tocka> found a solution
[09:47] <tocka> http://renier.morales-rodriguez.net/post/90674523562/sharing-host-vpn-with-virtualbox-guest
[10:35] <Linux_Explore> hello, can we install and use the Gnome DE available on Ubuntu 17.10 on Ubuntu Mate 16.04.3?
[10:36] <Linux_Explore> would it create any conflicts?
[10:40] <ducasse> Linux_Explore: there might be a ppa available, but that's entirely unsupported and at your own risk. the supported way to get that gnome version is to upgrade to 17.10.
[10:41] <Linux_Explore> ducasse, but, 17.10 is a non LTS version. I have Ubuntu Mate 16.04 installed now.
[10:41] <Linux_Explore> when will the next LTS version be released?
[10:42] <Linux_Explore> I suppose the next LTS version will be released with this new modified Gnome DE.
[10:42] <Linux_Explore> on Ubuntu.
[10:43] <geirha> Linux_Explore: Next LTS is likely 18.04
[10:43] <Linux_Explore> geirha, ok.
[10:43] <Linux_Explore> and when will the Lubuntu LTS with stable Lxqt be released?
[10:44] <ducasse> 18 = 2018, 04 = april
[10:44] <geirha> same time, or shortly after
[10:44] <Linux_Explore> great.
[10:44] <Linux_Explore> thanks a lot.
[11:07] <MacroMan> Is there a way for errors from rm to be sent to stdout instead of stderr?
[11:07] <MacroMan> I'm running it from the Asterisk phone server which only accepts stdout. stderr is discarded.
[11:08] <geirha> you can redirect stderr to stdout with  2>&1
[11:08] <geirha> but you need a shell to interpret that
[11:08] <MacroMan> so 'rm myfile 2>&1'
[11:09] <geirha> yes, if that gets evaluated by a shell
[11:09] <MacroMan> Yes it does. Thank you
[11:29] <igrom> Hey there
[11:29] <kul> Hi
[11:30] <igrom> I've run into an issue with GNOME on Ubuntu 17.10
[11:30] <igrom> I've installed a new window manager, sway
[11:30] <igrom> either as a side effect of its installation or after running multiple terminals different than gnome-terminal
[11:30] <igrom> the default color scheme has changed to black-on-white
[11:31] <igrom> I can't seem to be able to restore it in any way.
[11:31] <igrom> I'm using the Ambiance theme.
[11:31] <igrom> Here's a comparison:
[11:31] <igrom> Before: https://imgur.com/a/gOGuD
[11:31] <igrom> After: https://imgur.com/a/oeKSv
[11:32] <codingquark> Hello! I am on 16.04. I removed (rm -r) /etc/matrix-synapse dir and reinstalling the package is not bringing the contents back. What should I do?
[11:32] <igrom> I have programatically changed all instances of #ffffff to #ff0000 in /usr/share/gnome-themes/Ambiance/, and it did change the background color of gnome-terminal
[11:33] <igrom> but I am still at a loss concerning how to restore the default theme.
[11:33] <igrom> reinstalling light-themes didn't work.
[11:33] <igrom> Can anyone help? Perhaps you could upload the contents of /usr/share/gnome-themes/Ambiance and send me a link?
[11:34] <igrom> sorry, that's /usr/share/themes/Ambiance
[11:39] <newhoa> Hey I had a question. When I check my current CPU frequency with 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz' it reports all my cores at max speed (4.4GHz) always.
[11:39] <newhoa> Same with lscpu. But when I use the xfce frequency panel plugin it shows ever-changing frequencies on all cores.
[11:40] <newhoa> The panel plugin uses '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq'
[11:40] <newhoa> Any reason lspcu and /proc/cpuinfo are showing wrong info?
[11:42] <hari_> igrom: see the output of "dpkg-query -S  /usr/share/themes/Ambiance" . try "aptitude reinstall light-themes"
[11:45] <igrom> hari_: light-themes: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance
[11:48] <snacks> is there a libvdpau_i965.so file? It doesn't show up in 'dpkg-query -L mesa-vdpau-drivers' and VLC is throwing an error message expecting it.
[11:48] <igrom> hari_: aptitude reinstall light-themes does not help. I'm switching the theme after every modification.
[11:49] <codingquark> Fixed the problem by downloading the package files, and copying them as needed.
[11:51] <Funeral> anyone else have problem with chrome after 17.10? its very laggy opening new tabs etc
[11:53] <hari_> igrom : I thought it will help. Any way the command output says, that particular theme folder was created by "light-themes" package.
[11:54] <hari_> igrom: you can get original files by extracting the deb files of "light-themes" package
[11:56] <hari_> igrom: Also, I had to run "gnome-settings-daemon" manually for correctly displaying gnome applications under sway. ( I am running ubuntu 16.04 )
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:12] <ducasse> Funeral: you should talk to google about that, chrome is not even in the ubuntu repos
[12:14] <DarkSpartan> hey, can anyone help me with permanently installing ubuntu on my android 4.0 device?
[12:16] <ducasse> DarkSpartan: what kind of device are you talking about?
[12:22] <DarkSpartan> ducasse: an armv7 device
[12:22] <DarkSpartan> also, i'm at ubuntu-arm but no one seems to be on atm
[12:23] <DarkSpartan> a bootleg psp with about 512 mb ram, a 1.0 ghz processor and 5 gb internal storage
[12:25] <ducasse> it would be them that could help you with that, i think. never seen it brought up here before.
[12:25] <DarkSpartan> oh
[12:25] <DarkSpartan> bye then.
[12:49] <igrom> hari_: Thank you for your help! I will see if I can work things out.
[13:14] <Hackerpcs> is it possible to disable localization of documentation articles like https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html ? it translates to my home language but i want the original english ones
[13:15] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[13:16] <dbugger> I have a weird issue. I have paired a bluetooth headset, but apparently my Sound Setting wont allow me to set it by default for OUTPUT and INPUT simultaneously. When I set it in one of the categories, it will get deselected in the other one.
[13:16] <dbugger> Does anyone have an idea why could this issue be happening?
[13:19] <brainwash> dbugger: could be a limitation. maybe try with pavucontrol
[13:20] <dbugger> brainwash, what is that?
[13:20] <brainwash> !info pavucontrol
[13:21] <Ool> Hackerpcs: with Thunderbird you can choose the default language about:preferences …
[13:22] <Ool> If you put english first you can see the original version of the help.ubuntu
[13:22] <Ool> but I don't find any other solution for this problem*
[13:22] <augustusvandusen> Hackerpcs: Did u try to switch the default language in your browser? should work
[13:22] <Hackerpcs> thanks, i'm on firefox but it exists too
[13:23] <dbugger> brainwash, but how do I install the package? I see no package with that name
[13:24] <brainwash> sudo apt install pavucontrol
[13:24] <Ool> Hackerpcs: yes sorry FF not TB
[13:24] <Hackerpcs> thank you both!
[13:25] <brainwash> dbugger: or search for "pulseaudio"
[13:25] <brainwash> it should find the mixer then
[13:25] <dbugger> brainwash, pulseaudiois already installed
[13:26] <brainwash> right
[13:26] <dbugger> so where is this "mixer"?
[13:26] <brainwash> pavucontrol aka PulseAudio Volume Control
[13:26] <brainwash> open a terminal window and run "pavucontrol"
[13:27] <brainwash> if it's missing, it will over you a command to install it
[13:27] <brainwash> offer
[13:30] <dbugger> wow, this is quite confusing
[13:31] <dbugger> i do not really get this interface :D
[13:31] <dbugger> oh wow
[13:31] <dbugger> the headphones do not appear on the "Input Devices" tab
[13:31] <dbugger> shouldnt it?
[13:37] <tomreyn> unless you use them as a microphone, probably not
[13:39] <EoflaOE> dbugger: Check the "Output Devices" tab
[13:39] <dbugger> my headset has also mic
[13:39] <dbugger> i want to use them as both
[13:48] <onomatopiea> I got a 250gb ssd
[13:48] <onomatopiea> I need windows (games) and ubuntu (main os).. How much space should I give to ubuntu?
[13:49] <suret> hello
[13:49] <EoflaOE> suret: hello
[13:49] <suret> is there a way to update to downgrade to 16.04.2 from 16.04.3?
[13:50] <suret> s/to upgrade//
[13:50] <suret> (conflicts with AMDGPU-PRO)
[13:50] <Ool> suret: apt update && apt dist-upgrade don't make the job ?
[13:50] <suret> Ool: I want to *downgrade* from .3 to .2
[13:50] <EriC^^> suret: why?
[13:52] <Ool> suret: for me it's more about the kernel version than the distrib version
[13:53] <suret> conflicts with the AMDGPU-PRO driver: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[13:53] <Ool> there is no new driver ?
[13:53] <suret> but I have noticed now that the new driver version has only minor problems, the previous one caused crashes and blackouts
[13:53] <suret> so... nothing to be seen here, sorry for the noise :)
[13:53] <Ool> on your link I can see: AMDGPU-Pro Driver Version 17.40 for Ubuntu 16.04.3
[13:55] <suret> Ool: until few days ago there was a problem: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-Compatibility-Advisory-with-Ubuntu-16.04.2-and-16.04.3.aspx
[14:04] <dbugger> brainwash, I forgot to add a detaiö
[14:05] <dbugger> I can have both the speakers and the microphone at the same time active, EXCEPT if i set up the mode of the Speaker to A2DP
[14:15] <konam> hey guys
[14:16] <EoflaOE> hi konam
[14:16] <konam> I just upgraded from 16.04 to 17.10, clean installation, but for some reason the splash screen isn't showing after I select ubuntu from grub
[14:17] <konam> everything it's there but it's not shown. I know this because my hdd is encrypted and after I enter the password the booting resumes
[14:17] <konam> without showing the boot up/splash screen
[14:17] <onomatopiea> Is there a way to encrypt my partition?
[14:17] <konam> I don't know why it has disappeared and I'd like to have it back
[14:18] <konam> onomatopiea you can do it during ubuntu's installation process, otherwise look into LUKS partition
[14:18] <onomatopiea> konam: I see the problem. I am dual booting with windows
[14:18] <lordcirth> konam, in the past plymouth had problems with blocking the LUKS password prompt; perhaps they disabled it when you enable encryption.  You can edit the grub kernel line and add 'quiet splash' to the end if it's not there
[14:18] <onomatopiea> konam: Therefore, it wasn't offered during bootup.
[14:19] <konam> lordcirth hdd enc didn't cause this on ubuntu 16.04
[14:19] <lordcirth> onomatopiea, are you sure it wasn't?  I think I've used LUKS with dual booting before.
[14:19] <konam> onomatopiea I'm dual booting too, it has nothing to do with it
[14:19] <onomatopiea> lordcirth: I'm reading on SO it's the case
[14:19] <lordcirth> onomatopiea, link?
[14:20] <onomatopiea> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5qkif8/ubuntu_1604_full_disk_encryption_support/dczz2yb/
[14:20] <onomatopiea> I lied. It was reddit not SO..
[14:21] <lordcirth> onomatopiea, ok, so you can do the encrypted partitioning manually, or you can enable home directory encryption
[14:21] <onomatopiea> lordcirth: Yeah I can look to do it manually.. Is that after install? Or can the install do it for me?
[14:22] <onomatopiea> lordcirth: I mean partioning encryption
[14:22] <lordcirth> onomatopiea, /home encryption is just a checkbox.  Choose Manual Partitioning during install to do encryption.  Don't mess up.
[14:22] <lordcirth> Might want to do it in a VM first.
[14:22] <uberjoo> Holy smokes, son.
[14:23] <konam> onomatopiea you asked about how to encrypt a _partition_
[14:23] <konam> not full disk encryption
[14:23] <onomatopiea> Don't mess up? :x
[14:23] <onomatopiea> konam: It's fine.. I can use bitlocker on windows, and whatever else on linux
[14:23] <uberjoo> Apparently it's a common problem with Lubuntu not booting once you dual boot with Windows. I've read a ton of threads online about it, but haven't found a suitable solution. Could anyone possibly shed some light?
[14:24] <lordcirth> I mean, setting up LUKS isn't hard, but I've seen people mess up all sorts of basic partitioning, so just sayin
[14:24] <uberjoo> I just downloaded Lubuntu and chose the option to "install alongside Windows" after creating a partion (within Window's disk management utility)
[14:24] <onomatopiea> lordcirth: This is a 10 min old ubuntu install..
[14:24] <uberjoo> I can't get Lubuntu to boot.
[14:24] <onomatopiea> I can live with some data loss :-)
[14:24] <lordcirth> onomatopiea, but there's Windows dual boot, didn't you say?
[14:25] <onomatopiea> lordcirth: Yes. I have ubuntu and windows
[14:25] <lordcirth> I wiped my Win7 while absentmindedly partitioning once.
[14:25] <onomatopiea> heh
[14:25] <onomatopiea> I mean.. Not the worst thing ever if it happens I suppose
[14:26] <onomatopiea> I mostly just want some security
[14:26] <alkisg> uberjoo: did you get any errors during installation?
[14:26] <alkisg> Are you booted with a live cd/usb now?
[14:27] <uberjoo> alkisg: no sir. I also tried the efibootmgr solution that I found online. No avail.
[14:27] <alkisg> uberjoo: are you booted with a live cd/usb now?
[14:27] <uberjoo> Yes, I'm on a live CD of Lubuntu
[14:28] <alkisg> OK, what's the output of `sudo lsblk --fs; sudo parted -l` ?
[14:28] <uberjoo> One moment.
[14:29] <uberjoo> alkisg: http://codepad.org/Ry5dNCFP
[14:30] <alkisg> uberjoo: parted, not partled :)
[14:31] <uberjoo> alkisg: My apologies, hehe. http://codepad.org/J33wissQ
[14:31] <alkisg> uberjoo: and the output of this? test -d /sys/firmware/efi/ && echo yes,uefi || echo no uefi
[14:31] <uberjoo> it's uefi.
[14:31] <uberjoo> I verified that earlier.
[14:32] <uberjoo> Cause Google. :x
[14:32] <uberjoo> I used Rufus to make the bootable flash drive. I elected the "GPT/UEFI" scheme.
[14:33] <uberjoo> (I'm not really sure if that's significant, but just some info)
[14:33] <alkisg> uberjoo: nice. So now try to reboot, and when the live cd is loading, you'll see grub. press "c" there to get a command prompt in  grub. There, type these: set root=(hd0,gpt5) <enter> configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg <enter>
[14:33] <alkisg> uberjoo: this should let you boot from your real ubuntu installation instead of the live cd; and we'll continue from there
[14:33] <onomatopiea> You know what.. I might prefer a fully encrypted disk with ubuntu only
[14:33] <alkisg> (it's not permanent)
[14:33] <uberjoo> alkisg: will this give me an option to boot either Windows or Lubuntu?
[14:33] <uberjoo> Oh, okay.
[14:33] <onomatopiea> Instead of dual boot with less security
[14:35] <uberjoo> Alright. BRB
[14:35] <ArMedic> So, after being retarded I deleted resolv.conf and had to create it again.  I placed nameserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4 and everything seems to be working now.  What should be in the resolv.conf file?
[14:35] <konam> for future reference guys the first part of this answer solved the issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/132120/how-to-recover-splash-screen/132181#132181
[14:36] <konam> apparently the numix package I installed brought its own splash screen
[14:36] <konam> I never had that issue before
[14:37] <konam> the numix splash screen didn't work because i didn't see anything. oh well
[14:40] <uberjoo> alkisg: different nick. but anyway. did the commands with grub. no error. after the last entry, pressed enter. was given new line, typed exit. rebooted. Booted straight into Windows.
[14:40] <alkisg> uberjoo: after "configfile" you were given a new line?!
[14:40] <uberjoo> POOP
[14:40] <alkisg> You should have had the grub.cfg menu from your main installation
[14:41] <uberjoo> What were the commands again? I tried to take a picture, but obviously didn't get all of it
[14:41] <alkisg> OK, try: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt; cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <alkisg> This will show us your grub.cfg, so that we verify it has 2 entries, one for linux one for windows
[14:41] <alkisg> set root=(hd0,gpt5) <enter> configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg <enter>
[14:42] <uberjoo> alkisg: I did that. After configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg -- I pressed enter. Then it gave me a new grub> line
[14:42] <uberjoo> I typed exit, it rebooted
[14:42] <uberjoo> alkisg: http://termbin.com/ucrw
[14:43] <alkisg> Your grub.cfg is fine
[14:43] <alkisg> I believe you misstyped something
[14:43] <uberjoo> I checked and double checked (because of previous error with "partled"
[14:43] <onomatopiea> Bye bye windows
[14:44] <alkisg> OK. What's the output of `efibootmgr` ?
[14:44] <alkisg> (sudo)
[14:45] <uberjoo> alkisg: http://termbin.com/r7yc
[14:45] <onomatopiea> How the hell is it that ubuntu desktop takes 5 mins to install
[14:45] <onomatopiea> It's insane
[14:45] <onomatopiea> I remember it taking 1-2 hours to install windows xp
[14:46] <uberjoo> alkisg: I've never had a problem dual booting, ever. That's why I'm so bewildered :x
[14:46] <alkisg> uberjoo: why is ubuntu disabled there?
[14:46] <alkisg> Did you run any custom efibootmgr commands? Did you not install the signed kernel etc?
[14:46] <uberjoo> alkisg: uhh, I didn't know it was...I don't know much about it
[14:46] <uberjoo> I downloaded from lubuntu.me
[14:47] <uberjoo> I did do some custom efibootmgr commands. using the -o option, though
[14:47] <uberjoo> I always wondered why there wasn't a "*" by it
[14:47] <uberjoo> The first command I issued was simply "efibootmgr" to see the boot order
[14:47] <uberjoo> It was the same then.
[14:47] <alkisg> uberjoo: sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0001
[14:47] <alkisg> And then sudo efibootmgr, see if it's active now
[14:48] <uberjoo> It has an asterik beside it
[14:48] <alkisg> OK, better :)
[14:48] <uberjoo> What does that denote? A primary or bootable partition? idk
[14:49] <alkisg> That efi is allows to boot this option or not
[14:49] <uberjoo> Oh. Should I try to reboot now?
[14:49] <alkisg> Now try sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0000,0005,0006
[14:49] <alkisg> New output of efibootmgr now?
[14:50] <uberjoo> alkisg: http://termbin.com/w2nj
[14:50] <alkisg> OK, now try to reboot
[14:50] <uberjoo> Alright, brb.
[14:50] <alkisg> (dirctly from the disk)
[14:50] <uberjoo> As in..remove the USB?
[14:50] <alkisg> Yes
[14:50] <uberjoo> Okay.
[14:51] <Anders_H> hi guys. I am pretty new to Linux in general;  and am trying to switch to Ubuntu 17.10 after a few months of using Elementary OS Freya. I have a number of questions about bugs, but first, is there a list of frequently asked questions for 17.10 that I can read to make sure I don't spam with common questions?
[14:52] <alkisg> Anders_H: if you're new to linux, try 16.04, not 17.10. It's a more stable version (LTS)
[14:52] <alkisg> Release notes for 17.10 are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes
[14:53] <Anders_H> Yeah, my primary partition is still running Elementary OS which is based on 16.04.   I have a separate partition with 17.10 that I am using partly to learn about the system.  It would be great with some help to make me understand the problems that I am running into
[14:53] <Anders_H> I alraedy found the release notes, the particular problems I am having are not listed there, I was wondering if there is a more comprehensive list..
[14:54] <alkisg> There's bugs.launchpad.net for each package...
[14:54] <Anders_H> thanks! will check it out
[14:56] <Anders_H> hmm, so a quick search does't immediately find the answers, though I may be using the wrong search terms. I'm going to ask my questions here, but please feel free to let me know if I should look elsewhere:
[14:56] <uberjoo> alkisg: booted into windows. no option.
[14:57] <uberjoo> tried a few different bios options. still the same
[14:57] <Anders_H> (1) Whenever the computer goes to sleep, all windows in web browsers crash. This means things don't run in the background and have to be restored when I wake from sleep. This didn't happen in Elementary OS and is kind of annoying.  Is this a known bug? Is there a fix?
[14:57] <alkisg> uberjoo: hmm, you could try to disable secureboot temporarily, to see if it relates to that, and if everything else fails, you could overwrite windows' bootx64.efi with grub's version, so that it boots to grub unconditionally...
[14:58] <Anders_H> (2) The computer automatically goes to sleep between Netflix episodes, both in Firefox and Chrome.  This also does not happen in Elementary.  It is extra annoying because of problem 1.  I tried installing Caffeine, but it doesn't work and causes a lot of bugs
[14:58] <uberjoo> alkisg: oops. did you say something?
[14:58] <alkisg> berjoo: hmm, you could try to disable secureboot temporarily, to see if it relates to that, and if everything else fails, you could overwrite windows' bootx64.efi with grub's version, so that it boots to grub unconditionally...
[14:59] <uberjoo> alkisg: I tried disabling secure boot. The second option may work?
[14:59] <uberjoo> I have secure boot disabled by default
[14:59] <alkisg> It did in some broken firmwares I've tried
[14:59] <uberjoo> Also CSM = never.
[14:59] <uberjoo> But I've tried every option while rebooting. Nothing seems to work
[15:00] <alkisg> It's very strange though that configfile didn't allow you to boot
[15:00] <uberjoo> Dude, right? Seriously, I'm typically able to resolve these kinds of issues from Google, but I'm literally lost.
[15:00] <uberjoo> I've dual booted many OSes since like Slackware and Windows XP back in 1743 B.C.
[15:01] <alkisg> uberjoo: it's also possible to type the kernel commands from grub, to boot into the real os
[15:01] <alkisg> A bit long, but should work temporarily, until you boot into the main os once
[15:01] <uberjoo> alkisg: I'm okay with not having a menu, I just need to know what to do to boot the OS.
[15:01] <uberjoo> It's okay with me if Windows boots automatically and doesn't give me a menu.
[15:02] <alkisg> Like, c to get a prompt, then set root=(hd0,gpt5); linux /boot/vmlinuz-version root=/dev/sda5; initrd /boot/initrd-version; boot
[15:02] <alkisg> Use tab to autocomplete versions
[15:02] <uberjoo> Let me see if that works. One moment.
[15:02] <alkisg> And enter where I wrote ;
[15:02] <uberjoo> yes, I assumed
[15:03] <uberjoo> BRB
[15:05] <pingwindyktator> Ive got problem with /etc/modules. It seems not to load as expected. Modules "some_module.ko" are placed into /lib/modules/4.4.0-38-generic/kernel/drivers/misc/ and there are "some_module" registries in /etc/modules
[15:08] <uberjoo> alkisg: no good. couldn't tab-complete the version.
[15:09] <alkisg> uberjoo: check if you're using the wrong disk for some reason. set root=(hd0,gpt5); ls /
[15:09] <alkisg> ls /boot
[15:09] <alkisg> And more ls commands...
[15:09] <uberjoo> Is there a way to check that without rebooting
[15:09] <uberjoo> Also, sudo efibootmgr shows ubuntu partition as being inactive again.
[15:11] <maarhart> latest ubuntu + latest iOS. How can I import photos from iPhone? I used to be able with Shotwell
[15:13] <uberjoo> alkisg: couldn't I just (re) install grub?
[15:17] <brainwash> pingwindyktator: try in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:17] <uberjoo> alkisg: grub-install gives me an error about not being able to find efi directory
[15:20] <alkisg> !grub
[15:20] <alkisg> uberjoo: instructions for reinstall ^
[15:21] <uberjoo> Doesn't work. "Can't find EFI directory"
[15:24] <alkisg> Use the life cd instructions
[15:24] <alkisg> *live cd paragraph
[15:24] <uberjoo> Tried.
[15:24] <alkisg> If you are not booted in efi mode, then you didn't check the /sys/firmware/efi dir I said initialy...
[15:24] <uberjoo> Err, what?
[15:24] <uberjoo> Why does it keep making the ubuntu partition inactive in efibootmgr?
[15:26] <alkisg> test -d /sys/firmware/efi && echo uefi
[15:26] <alkisg> Does that say it's uefi?
[15:26] <uberjoo> The result of that command is "uefi" -- earlier it was "yes, uefi"
[15:26] <alkisg> And the reinstallation instructions give you error? Which part exactly?
[15:27] <akik> uberjoo: which brand of computer is it?
[15:27] <alkisg> Although if you can't boot manually, I don't think reinstallation will help
[15:27] <uberjoo> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[15:27] <uberjoo> grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory
[15:27] <uberjoo> I couldn't boot manually cause couldn't tab-complete the version.
[15:28] <uberjoo> It's an Acer computer. I can get the model if that'll help. A desktop PC
[15:28] <alkisg> uberjoo: what about the "ls" I asked?
[15:28] <alkisg> Did ls show you the files?
[15:28] <uberjoo> At the grub prompt?
[15:28] <alkisg> Yes
[15:28] <akik> uberjoo: on an acer f5 laptop i needed to add the uefi bootable file in the laptop's uefi screens
[15:28] <uberjoo> Eh?
[15:28] <Duckle> Hey there, how would I go about making sure a USB 3 ethernet adapter gets the eth0 name?
[15:29] <akik> uberjoo: well i don't know if they're called bios screens or uefi screens in newer computers
[15:29] <uberjoo> akik: regardless, what are you suggesting?
[15:30] <uberjoo> This computer isn't that new. It came pre-installed with Windows 7.
[15:30] <akik> uberjoo: there's a menu in there where you can tell your computer to boot \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[15:30] <uberjoo> akik: in the BIOS?
[15:30] <akik> uberjoo: yes, but if it's older, maybe there is not
[15:30] <uberjoo> akik: There's a CSM option and a Secure Boot option.
[15:30] <uberjoo> Secure Boot is set to disabled and CSM is set to "Never"
[15:31] <uberjoo> alkisg: either way, is there a particular reason why once I reboot, efibootmgr doesn't show an asterik beside the ubuntu entry?
[15:32] <akik> uberjoo: no menu that would let you add a uefi bootable file?
[15:32] <uberjoo> akik: negative
[15:33] <akik> uberjoo: talking about this: https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/No_Bootable_Device_Found_2.jpg
[15:34] <alkisg> uberjoo: the reason would lie in the uefi firmware implementation... "ls" would be easier to check...
[15:34] <uberjoo> alkisg: command?
[15:34] <alkisg> ls / => see the root dir
[15:34] <alkisg> ls /boot => see inside a dir
[15:34] <alkisg> And, you need to locate the vmlinuz file
[15:34] <v0lksman> would anyone know why hostname -f continues to state "localhost" when it should be the hostname I've defined?  https://dpaste.de/SNNv
[15:35] <uberjoo> Ugh
[15:35] <alkisg> set root=(hd0,gpt5) => change partition
[15:35] <v0lksman> this is a 14.04 box
[15:35] <uberjoo> Why is this so difficult?
[15:35] <alkisg> Broken firmware, most probably
[15:35] <uberjoo> Would I have better luck with a different distro?
[15:35] <uberjoo> Broken firmware? Acer firmware?
[15:35] <alkisg> Usually not, they all use the same grub
[15:35] <alkisg> Yes
[15:35] <uberjoo> Does that mean BIOS?
[15:35] <alkisg> UEFI is the new BIOS, yes
[15:35] <alkisg> Both are called firmwares now that we have 2 :)
[15:36] <uberjoo> Jesus, Mother Mary and Joesph.
[15:40] <akik> v0lksman: if i remember correctly it's the first entry on 127.0.0.1 that is returned for hostname -f
[15:41] <akik> v0lksman: although on a 16.04 system, it's the entry that is on the 127.0.1.1 line
[15:42] <v0lksman> akik: acutally I removed my names from the 127.0.0.1 line and it now works
[15:42] <akik> v0lksman: -f returns the fully qualified name
[15:43] <joelio> 127.0.1.1 is still loopback, there's a debian backstory there
[15:43] <uberjoo> Fuck it. I guess I don't need Lubuntu
[15:43] <uberjoo> Thanks for your help, guys
[15:44] <joelio> ?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> heh, another satidfied customer
[15:49] <BluesKaj> satisfied even
[15:49] <raub> He got his money's worth
[15:51] <raub> And back what he put in
[15:58] <maarhart> Please help, I have latest ubuntu + latest iOS. How can I import photos from iPhone? I used to be able with Shotwell
[16:01] <strive> maarhart: I don't have an iPhone but maybe use a "cloud" service?
[16:01] <leftyfb> maarhart: I typically use dropbox and/or google photos
[16:01] <strive> maarhart: I did hear of something called 'ifuse' that could probably do the job.
[16:03] <BlakeZ> New to Ubuntu and having a major issue, 4690k, 16gb ram, GTX 1080 - When installing nvidia proprietary drivers when I reboot I get stuck on a purple screen then my monitor turns off. Only fix so far has been to re install. I've searched online for hours and can't find a solution.
[16:04] <strive> maarhart: There's a video on YT on how to do it; not sure if it's still viable.
[16:05] <joelio> BlakeZ: how did you install the drivers ooi?
[16:05] <joelio> did you use the ubuntu provided packages?
[16:05] <BlakeZ> From Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[16:06] <joelio> right ok that should be fine then
[16:07] <joelio> BlakeZ: do you know which release it installed ooi? Perhaps a newer/older one may help
[16:07] <BlakeZ> Happens everytime, fresh install, install all updates, switch to nvidia proprietary drivers and then I can't boot anymore
[16:07] <joelio> there are several versions of nvidia-{number} in the repos
[16:07] <joelio> GTX1080 is fairly new right? Also what version of Ubujntu
[16:08] <BlakeZ> GTX is newer yes, fully updated LTS
[16:08] <BlakeZ> 16.04.3 i believe
[16:09] <joelio> can you get to a console to check versions? I can talk you through commands if unsure
[16:09] <joelio> ctrl+alt+f2 or something should get you a tty on 16.04
[16:09] <BlakeZ> yes please provide commands, very new lol
[16:09] <joelio> (tty=console)
[16:09] <joelio> dpkg -l nvidia*
[16:09] <joelio> and paste output to a pastebin
[16:09] <joelio> then link url here
[16:11] <joelio> see what I mean about many versions! :) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all
[16:12] <BlakeZ> https://pastebin.com/sTFXKgVx
[16:14] <joelio> BlakeZ: one last one, to confirm
[16:14] <BlakeZ> ok
[16:14] <joelio> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[16:14] <joelio> think the - isn't liked in the dpkg outoput, so let's grep too make sure :)
[16:15] <BlakeZ> returns nothing
[16:15] <joelio> oh, so that's not installed anything ok.. let's try this
[16:15] <joelio> sudo apt-get install nvidia-384
[16:16] <joelio> we may as well try the newest version first :)
[16:16] <BlakeZ> now this is where it gets scary.... if this breaks it again I won't be back till I re install lol
[16:16] <joelio> 16.04 doesn't have signed kernel as default too, so can't be a signing issue (got that to look forward to in later versions lol)
[16:17] <joelio> BlakeZ: it won't kill console
[16:17] <BluesKaj> joelio, use the recommended linux version
[16:17] <joelio> BluesKaj: ?
[16:17] <BlakeZ> let me go get my laptop and run irc on that.... one minute
[16:17] <BluesKaj> nvidia gpu driver
[16:18] <joelio> I'm using the recommended ubuntu version, with the correct packaging
[16:18] <joelio> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nvidia-384
[16:18] <joelio> not sure what a 'recommended linux version' is :D
[16:18] <joelio> if that's from the nvidia.com site, don't do that
[16:19] <joelio> you miss the point of package managers then and get a whole new set of issues
[16:23] <BlakeZ20> Ok laptop is ready... lol
[16:24] <joelio> ok, try and install the latest version
[16:24] <joelio> sudo apt-get install nvidia-384
[16:24] <BlakeZ20> installing now
[16:24] <joelio> cool, paste output again when done so can check it over :)
[16:25] <joelio> althiugh maybe difficutlt from console :)
[16:25] <joelio> (and if I can type!)
[16:25] <BlakeZ> I ran it in terminal, is that ok?
[16:25] <joelio> just let me know what the output is, if it looked successful or not
[16:25] <joelio> yea, sure!
[16:25] <joelio> everything in linux is happening like that really
[16:26] <joelio> (mainly, if you ignore RPC lol)
[16:26] <BlakeZ> https://pastebin.com/L3VL9KHH
[16:27] <joelio> ok, looked good!
[16:27] <joelio> try a reboot :
[16:27] <BlakeZ> I have to get this working correctly.... its either this or os x for school and I hate my Mac
[16:27] <BlakeZ> rebooting now
[16:28] <joelio> mate, I've done this loads of times before, used to manage laptop fleets for users, it *should* work lol
[16:28] <BlakeZ20> fingers crossed... lol
[16:28] <BlakeZ20> same thing gets stuck on a purple screen and then monitor loses signal
[16:29] <joelio> ok, ctrl+alt+F7
[16:29] <joelio> or f12 (can't remember which)
[16:29] <joelio> that should show some console info
[16:29] <BlakeZ20> no response on either
[16:29] <joelio> or view /var/log/Xorg.log (etc)
[16:30] <joelio> see what the logs say
[16:30] <BlakeZ20> I cant
[16:30] <BlakeZ20> monitor has no signal nothing is displayed
[16:30] <joelio> ctrl+alt+f2/3/4/ etc
[16:30] <joelio> should get you a console
[16:30] <BlakeZ20> nothing
[16:31] <BlakeZ20> GPU is not outputting a signal
[16:31] <joelio> yea, but the console should work
[16:32] <BlakeZ20> can't do anything once the monitor turns off.... just switched it to onboard graphics port to see if anything was getting sent there and nothing as well
[16:32] <joelio> ok, boot into rescue mode
[16:32] <BlakeZ20> I can get into recovery mode
[16:32] <BlakeZ20> ok
[16:33] <joelio> w'll try an earlier verison
[16:33] <BlakeZ20> ok in root shell prompt
[16:33] <joelio> ok
[16:34] <joelio> apt-get purge nvidia-834
[16:34] <BlakeZ20> unable to locate package Nvidia-834
[16:35] <joelio> eh, you just installed that?
[16:35] <BlakeZ20> its 384
[16:35] <tomreyn> also, N is not n
[16:35] <BlakeZ20> ya thats how I put it in
[16:35] <BlakeZ20> its package 384 not 834 think you had a typo
[16:35] <BlakeZ20> working now lol
[16:36] <joelio> sorry typo there mea culpa
[16:36] <joelio> that one :)
[16:36] <BlakeZ20> ok that finished
[16:36] <joelio> try -331 instead
[16:37] <joelio> so,
[16:37] <joelio> apt-get install nvidia-331
[16:37] <joelio> if that doesn't work then we really need to see what the error is in the Xorg.log
[16:37] <cookmod> so since im on ubuntu 16.04 i should only use apt right?
[16:37] <cookmod> not apt-get
[16:37] <joelio> apt-get still in 17.10
[16:38] <cookmod> but do i need to use it?
[16:38] <BlakeZ20> temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[16:38] <joelio> don't think it's going anywhere soo, but apt is apparently the recommended
[16:38] <joelio> not sure about debian mind
[16:38] <joelio> BlakeZ20: wifi by any chance lol
[16:38] <BlakeZ20> no
[16:38] <cookmod> but apt does everything apt-get does?
[16:39] <cookmod> or some packages aren't avaiable on apt?
[16:39] <joelio> cookmod: pretty much, apt is just some fancy dpkg stuff on top
[16:39] <joelio> no, it's all the same
[16:39] <BlakeZ20> had this issue last night had to use google dns not sure how I fixed it last night though
[16:39] <cookmod> ahh i see
[16:39] <joelio> BlakeZ20: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[16:39] <BlakeZ20> yes
[16:40] <joelio> just reboot then mate
[16:40] <joelio> otherwise it's /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base -< add nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:40] <joelio> and then resolvconf -u
[16:40] <joelio> or reboot :)
[16:41] <cookmod> love ubuntu desktop environment but sometimes it's too hard on my pc :(
[16:41] <BlakeZ20> rebooting
[16:41] <cookmod> so I installed lubuntu-desktop and now it looks bad
[16:42] <cookmod> lxde don't know what its called
[16:42] <BlakeZ20> installing 331 now
[16:42] <joelio> BlakeZ20: basically tyr the nvidia-331 or nvidia-current (gives you -304) and see
[16:43] <joelio> I have to go home soon :)
[16:43] <BlakeZ20> how do I uninstall again
[16:43] <joelio> apt-get purge
[16:43] <joelio> or apt-get remove (which will leave config behind)
[16:43] <joelio> good if you don't want to delete user config but in this case purge is what we wanr
[16:44] <BlakeZ20> rebooting again
[16:44] <cookmod> now my login screen looks so ugly :(
[16:44] <BlakeZ20> same thing on 331
[16:46] <cookmod> here's the tutorial i followed https://www.hiroom2.com/2017/07/26/ubuntu-1604-lxde-en/
[16:46] <cookmod> looks so ugly
[16:48] <auronandace> cookmod: maybe you can look at some themes
[16:49] <cookmod> auronandace: i don't mind the them only the login screen
[16:49] <cookmod> i miss ubuntu's
[16:51] <auronandace> cookmod: you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure nameofloginmanager
[16:52] <auronandace> cookmod: you said you were on 16.04 so the default login manager is lightdm
[16:53] <joelio> BlakeZ20: sorry not srue what else to suggest apart from 375 https://askubuntu.com/questions/941057/after-16-04-installation-hang-at-blank-purple-screen
[16:53] <BlakeZ20> ill try that now
[16:53] <joelio> right, good luck, hometime!
[16:53] <BlakeZ20> getting the hang of installing and uninstalling finally lol
[16:54] <joelio>  well, silver linings!
[16:54] <cookmod> auronandace: and i'll still have the option to use lxde desktop environment?
[16:54] <BlakeZ20> yaa....lol
[16:55] <auronandace> cookmod: yes
[16:55] <cookmod> :O
[16:55] <joelio> cookmod: yea, login display isn't connected to X - could use lightdm or gdm etc
[16:56] <auronandace> cookmod: lubuntu uses a different login manager by default, i think its slim, so since you installed the lubuntu-desktop package it changed the default login manager
[16:56] <cookmod> ok so i reboot or just logout now that i ran the command
[16:56] <cookmod> to test
[16:57] <auronandace> cookmod: i'd reboot
[16:57] <cookmod> k thanks so much (if it works)
[17:00] <Anders_H>   `````````````````````````````````````````````1111`1111111dfgjkjbvcx ``````` mni
[17:00] <cookmod> didn't work
[17:00] <Anders_H>  
[17:00] <cookmod> acheronuk:
[17:19] <tomreyn> is there some way to double the resolution of a closed source opengl game?
[17:20] <tomreyn> i'd like to play an older game called "eschalon: book 1" which, by default, can run either at 800x600 windowed (fixed, no other reolutions supported) or at full screen (where it gets the aspects ration entirely wrong and thus is unplayable, too).
[17:21] <tomreyn> is there an external way around it?
[17:22] <tomreyn> i know that several emulators do this for old games, so i'm wondering whether there are some simple linux utilities which can do the same for a native game.
[17:26] <alkisg> compositors like compiz or mutter should be able to do this
[17:33] <alkisg> tomreyn: btw, it should be possible to create a custom resolution of e.g. 1024x600 and play it full screen with the correct aspect ratio, using cvt and xrandr --newmode
[17:34] <ioria> tomreyn, if you got nvidia :   https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1540061.html
[17:41] <Capprentice> HI! im seeing failed to start Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data
[17:41] <Capprentice> What could be the reason?
[17:46] <Capprentice> What is the purpose of this service? Starting Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data
[17:46] <Capprentice> plymouth-read-write.service
[17:49] <tomreyn> ioria: got amd / mesa. thanks, though
[17:49] <ioria> tomreyn, ah, ok
[17:51] <tomreyn> alkisg: can you provide an exmaple, i'm not yet sure i'm getting it
[17:52] <alkisg> tomreyn: what is your normal resolution? e.g. 1920x1080?
[17:52] <tomreyn> 3440x1440
[17:52] <tomreyn> @ 60 Hz
[17:52] <stevie> hi
[17:52] <alkisg> tomreyn: can you paste the output of `xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
[17:52] <stevie> how do I install zesty packages on xenial?
[17:52] <stevie> i need erlang 19.2
[17:53] <nacc> stevie: you don't.
[17:53] <nacc> stevie: then run zesty in a VM or contaier.
[17:53] <tomreyn> alkisg: xrandr 2>&1 | pastebinit : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25933183/
[17:54] <alkisg> tomreyn: strange resolution, is that on a single monitor?
[17:54] <tomreyn> alkisg: yes, an ultra wide screen
[17:55] <alkisg> OK, let me do the math...
[17:56] <alkisg> tomreyn: so, to get a good resolution, you'd use 1440x600. The game would of course fill 800x600 while at full screen, hopefully with black borders around it
[17:57] <alkisg> Let me put the commands to pastebin...
[17:58] <alkisg> tomreyn: cvt 1440 600 => shows timings; xrandr --newmode "1440x600_60.00"   68.75  1440 1496 1640 1840  600 603 613 624 -hsync +vsync; xrandr --addmode DP-1 "1440x600_60.00"; xrandr --output DP-1 --mode "1440x600_60.00"
[17:59] <tomreyn> alkisg: thanks. cvt output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25933222/
[17:59] <alkisg> tomreyn: I ran it for you, so you can continue with the xrandr commands
[18:04] <tomreyn> alkisg: thanks. so this gives me the 1440x600 resolution indeed. when i then start the game full screen it still has the wrong aspect. it draws from top to bottom of my screen, and only fills 20% of its width
[18:04] <tomreyn> i guess it's a bug in the game
[18:05] <alkisg> Try erasing its configuration file in order for it to recreate it
[18:05] <alkisg> Maybe the first time it runs it selects aspect ratio etc. Or, search for which resolution is chooses while at full screen mode.
[18:05] <tomreyn> it doesn't store anything resolution related there since it really only supports this one resolution
[18:06] <tomreyn> the official statement is that full screen it also runs at 800x600, scaled.
[18:06] <peanutbutter144> is anyone using 17.10?
[18:07] <tomreyn> alkisg: i think i'll just give up on this, thanks for your help, though!
[18:07] <BluesKaj> peanutbutter144, ask your real question
[18:07] <alkisg> np
[18:07] <peanutbutter144> tbh i kinda liked unity
[18:07] <tomreyn> that's not a question. :)
[18:08] <peanutbutter144> ok then, who else actually liked unity?
[18:08] <tomreyn> and that's not a support question. you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, though.
[18:09] <BluesKaj> peanutbutter144, ask a support question, no polling
[18:09] <peanutbutter144> ok i will go there, i wasn't aware that this channel was only support
[18:09] <tomreyn> thanks, yes it is
[18:12] <nacc> peanutbutter144: see /topic...
[18:23] <antiswifty> guys
[18:23] <antiswifty> can anyone help to understand how to fix "deb is not found" error in the terminal?
[18:24] <luxio> antiswifty: What command are you running to get that error?
[18:24] <antiswifty> i am just trying to follow an installation guide from the postgresql website
[18:24] <antiswifty> to install it
[18:24] <nacc> antiswifty: postgresql is packaged.
[18:24] <antiswifty> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[18:24] <nacc> antiswifty: use the packaged versions, or if you want to use theirs, you need to ask them for support.
[18:24] <luxio> antiswifty: `sudo apt install postgresql`
[18:25] <antiswifty> lol
[18:25] <antiswifty> that turned to be so easy afterall
[18:25] <antiswifty> thank you!
[18:25] <luxio> :)
[18:26] <constantin_mike> hello. i've got an issue with libXrender on xubuntu 17.10 while trying to install netbeans 8.2. can anyone help me?
[18:27] <rek> hello which application can i use to paste on a paste website? (command line)
[18:28] <rek> hello do you know why i'm stuck at the login after installing amdgpu-pro driver?
[18:28] <luxio> rek: http://termbin.com/
[18:28] <luxio> cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <rek> is it in the repo of ubuntu?
[18:28] <luxio> No need to install anything
[18:28] <nacc> luxio: nc (netcat) is in the repository, it's there by default, iirc
[18:28] <luxio> You might need to install netcat, actually. Not sure if it's installed by default
[18:28] <nacc> luxio: or use pastebinit
[18:28] <rek> what's nc ?
[18:28] <luxio> rek: short for netcat
[18:29] <luxio> it's a network utility
[18:29] <howudodat> I know this isn't particularly an ubuntu question, but here goes.  I have a video file that for some reason it is missing about 2 minutes of video even though it has all the audio, so I would like to insert 2 minutes of no video, or black screen at 16:42.24  Is there a simple way to do that?
[18:29] <luxio> basically what that command's doing is sending the output of "cat ~/some_file.txt to termbin.com on port 9999
[18:29] <nacc> !alis | howudodat: i would search for a better channel
[18:29] <luxio> and then termbin creates a paste out of that data and gives you the link
[18:29] <rek> cool as hell luxio
[18:30] <rek> do anyone know how to solve the installation problem od amdgpu pro driver? i'm stuck at the login of the dm
[18:30] <luxio> rek: It might not work for some outputs that are asynchronous, in which case you can use https://0bin.net/
[18:31] <luxio> or https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:33] <Doow> Hi, I'd like to see if I can add a progress bar in the ubuntu dock to a program, any good tips on where to start? (#ubuntu-devel is a bit slow today, so I'll give this channel a chance :)
[18:34] <rek> ok but is there any possibility to be back in a desktop now or then after installing amdgpu pro driver?
[18:34] <nacc> Doow: #ubuntu-devel is the wrong channel for your questio.
[18:35] <nacc> rek: afaik, the amdgpu pro driver is out of ubuntu, so you'd eed to ask amd for support
[18:36] <Doow> nacc, even better that I asked here then. I thought it was a generic develop things for ubuntu channel.
[18:36] <nacc> Doow: no, it's the channel for the development of ubuntu itself, see its /topic.
[18:36] <rek> nacc: we should all read the logs together
[18:37] <Doow> nacc, oh, can't believe I missed that, seems I'm going to #ubuntu-app-devel then
[18:38] <Jordan_U> howudodat: Any of the major video editors should allow you to separate the audio and the video and manage them separately.
[18:39] <howudodat> Jordan_U: thanks, I'm looking at them now.  video editing is not my thing...
[18:41] <nacc> rek: what logs? who is 'we'?
[18:43] <constantin_mike> hello. i've got an issue with libXrender on xubuntu 17.10 while trying to install netbeans 8.2. can anyone help me?
[18:43] <nacc> constantin_mike: netbeans is at 8.1 in ubuntu
[18:44] <nacc> constantin_mike: wher did you get 8.2 from?
[18:45] <constantin_mike> their website, of course :)
[18:45] <nacc> constantin_mike: then ask them?
[18:45] <constantin_mike> it's a .sh file
[18:45] <constantin_mike> oh no ...
[18:46] <constantin_mike> their irc channel is inactive
[18:46] <constantin_mike> i get this while trying to start their installer: /tmp/.nbi-5111627.tmp/_jvm/lib/i386/libawt_xawt.so: libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:46] <constantin_mike> if i do somth like this: sudo apt-file search libXrender
[18:47] <constantin_mike> i get this: libxrender1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1
[18:47] <constantin_mike> so it's a library that's not working properly or somth
[18:47] <nacc> constantin_mike: we really can't support out-of-ubuntu stuff
[18:47] <nacc> constantin_mike: no, you have a bitness mismatch
[18:47] <nacc> constantin_mike: you have a 32-bit installer annd a 64-bit system.
[18:47] <constantin_mike> i downloaded the 64bit v
[18:48] <nacc> constantin_mike: dunno, it's usinng a 32 bit lib. As I said, please ask the maintainer of whatever you are using.
[18:48] <constantin_mike> ahh ... you might be right!!!!
[18:48] <constantin_mike> about the 32-bit installer
[18:49] <constantin_mike> netbeans-8.2-php-linux-x86.sh
[18:49] <akik> constantin_mike: it seems to include a 32-bit jvm
[18:49] <constantin_mike> this is embarassing , but well, at least i got the truth now. thanks :D
[18:50] <TJ-> constantin_mike: just a side-note: You don't need 'sudo' for apt-file search (only for system-wide 'apt-file update' of the package lists)
[18:54] <constantin_mike> nacc, akik: thanks!!
[18:54] <constantin_mike> TJ-: thanks also!
[19:12] <applecrumble> Is there a good, thorough guide on ulimits with regards to Ubuntu? I've only found sparse stackoverflow answers
[19:13] <ioria> applecrumble, man ulimit :þ
[19:16] <akik> applecrumble: usually you need to change them only when needed, case by case
[19:16] <applecrumble> ioria: Thats the utility for setting the ulimit ;)
[19:17] <ioria> applecrumble, kinda, system call
[19:17] <akik> applecrumble: you set them with a text editor
[19:18] <rfleming> Anyone have info on qemu and spice on 17.10?
[19:18] <akik> (if need to change the defaults, that is)
[19:18] <nacc> applecrumble: see the see also references
[19:18] <nacc> rfleming: ... that's a pretty vague question
[19:19] <rfleming> nacc: OK, installing qemu, virt-manager and the spice protocol in an all in one
[19:19] <nacc> rfleming: was that the question?
[19:19] <rfleming> nacc: there was a document that someone posted last year (https://velenux.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/how-to-install-and-use-spice-for-vms-in-debian-ubuntu-or-mint/) that doesn't work as packages are missing
[19:20] <rfleming> (mostly the spice ones like qemu-kvm-spice
[19:20] <jeffrey_f> are there any easy to set up multiboot USB solutions.  I have a 500Gb USB disk I'd like to be able to boot an array for distros and then add some as I go
[19:21] <rfleming> nacc: to be able to use the spice protocol with qemu
[19:22] <rfleming> as in how to install qemu/virt-manager, et. al along with spice on Ubuntu 17.10
[19:22] <nacc> rfleming: i think it's there by default
[19:22] <nacc> rfleming: just istnall virt-manager
[19:22] <applecrumble> Thanks all, I think I have the info on the <items> part, which was what I was missing
[19:22] <rfleming> nacc: oh, really?  Cool.  Couldn't find info about that.
[19:22] <nacc> rfleming: i'm able to specify either vnc or spice in the vnc server section.
[19:23] <nacc> rfleming: not yet tried it, but it's there
[19:23] <nacc> rfleming: i do't trust a year old article for presumably a different distro (and mint != ubuntu) which does't tell you where it gets the packages from.
[19:26] <maarhart`> strive: thanks, ifuse did the trick. it just needs to be compiled from source.
[19:39] <TJ-> rfleming: qemu-system-x86 depends on libspice-server1
[19:41] <akik> !info spice-vdagent
[19:42] <rfleming> that's for a linux virtual machine?
[19:42] <akik> yes that name matches what's on https://www.spice-space.org/download.html
[20:21] <mojtaba> Hello, do you know how to play music over ssh?
[20:23] <ioria> mojtaba, paprefs and (maybe) export PULSE_SERVER=server-ip
[20:23] <ioria> mojtaba, you need paprefs  on server and client
[20:25] <mojtaba> ioria: thanks
[20:26] <ioria> mojtaba,  ok
[20:26] <mojtaba> I found that I can use:
[20:26] <mojtaba> ssh -C -X server 'cat pathToFile' | vlc -
[20:28] <alkisg> mojtaba: you can also use `sshfs user@server:remotepath localpath` to mount a directory locally over ssh, and then use normal nautilus/vlc etc
[20:29] <JWFoxJr> I have two hosts on my network that I can't seem to resolv unless restart systemd-resolved constantly - is there anyway around this?
[20:31] <ioria> JWFoxJr, ubuntu 17.04 ?
[20:32] <Greeley> How is everyone doing?
[20:33] <JWFoxJr> ioria: sorry Ubuntu 17.10
[20:34] <JWFoxJr> ioria: I'm hoping to find a solution without having to hardcode a bunch of hosts into /etc/hosts or disabling systemd-resolved
[20:35] <mojtaba> alkisg: thank you very much
[20:35] <alkisg> mojtaba: np
[20:35] <mojtaba> alkisg: how can I unmount afterward?
[20:35] <alkisg> mojtaba: fusermount -u localpath
[20:39] <mojtaba> alkisg: Thanks a lot
[20:39] <alkisg> νπ
[20:39] <alkisg> np
[20:41] <ioria> JWFoxJr, well, you can't disable resolved , unless you install dnsmasq
[20:43] <alkisg> JWFoxJr: why, is systemd-resolvd resolving hosts in local network without dns? Does it implement something like avahi?
[20:44] <Jordan_U> JWFoxJr: Are theses hostnames being resolved by DNS or some other service (like mdns)? Do you have multiple DNS servers configured, one of which doesn't resolve the names in question?
[20:51] <akik> ubuntu doesn't need a local dns server running. it can directly query the dns servers in  resolv.conf
[20:52] <alkisg> akik: the dns servers in resolv.conf don't know about hostnames in local network...
[20:52] <alkisg> So from pc01 you can't ping pc02 without avahi or /etc/hosts, stuff like that
[20:53] <alkisg> Avahi (mdns) allows you to ping pc02.local automatically
[20:53] <akik> yes well it's all how you want to set it up
[20:53] <alkisg> Yes, we're asking him how he managed to ping his local computers
[20:56] <alkisg> Btw, sometimes "smart" routers have local dns servers (that automatically go to resolv.conf) that can also resolv local hostnames
[20:57] <akik> alkisg: i was just writing that my vdsl2 modem knows my local hostnames
[20:58] <JWFoxJr> Jordan_U: That's it! I forgot to put the hosts in the 2nd DNS server, and that's probably the one that it keeps hitting! Thanks.
[21:02] <Jordan_U> JWFoxJr: You're welcome. That probably also means that requests made to the first DNS server are failing often enough that systemd-resolved is switching to the secondary DNS server. That could be because your first DNS server is having severe connectivity issues, or it could be that the client machine is having severe connectivity issues (at least part of the time). (Because severe packet loss everywhere
[21:02] <Jordan_U> will cause severe packet loss to DNS server #1, which systemd-resolved will assume is a problem with DNS server #1).
[21:08] <davido_> I've been trying to find more details on the Desktop Known Issues for 17.10 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Desktop) -- In particular, "When an external monitor is connected to a laptop, the login screen is only displayed on the internal one and in some case is not visible (1723025)".  Does anyone know where I might find more detailed information on the work that's going into fixing the issue?
[21:09] <brainwash> bug 1723025
[21:09] <brainwash> there you go
[21:10] <davido_> :) That is already known. I guess that's as much as there is.
[21:12] <oerheks> some/most laptops do have a setting in the bios for that, and a FN key to switch internal/external/both screens
[21:12] <oerheks> so i think that bugreport is invalid, or at least hardware specific
[21:12] <davido_> I've just been reluctant to upgrade to 17.10 on my work laptop, since most of the time I used it with the lid closed, driving external monitors.
[21:14] <davido_> I wonder if booting from a live-usb would give me a clue as to whether the issue would affect me.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> davido_: Yes, a LiveUSB should have the same behavior as the installed OS in this case, with the possible exception being if you use proprietary drivers (which the LiveUSB won't use).
[21:16] <davido_> Yeah, I think I'm ok in that regard. The laptop has discreet video but some radeon card that isn't supported anyway, so I've just been using on-chip for video -- no unusual drivers.
[21:16] <davido_> I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[21:16] <Jordan_U> davido_: You're welcome.
[21:16] <oerheks> openradeon would be loaded
[21:17] <Jordan_U> davido_: Be sure that you test booting with the screen closed from the very beginning, as that I think would best approximate the situation the bug report mentions.
[21:18] <davido_> Will do.  I guess the one thing it wouldn't test would be the screen I get after grub, but before full boot, where I unlock the hard drive encryption.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> davido_: If you can see the plymouth splash on the external monitor then I would expect that you would be able to see the password prompt for FDE as well.
[21:19] <davido_> k, that's good info.
[21:20] <Pici> \
[21:21] <Jordan_U> davido_: With the caveat that you'll never be completely sure that an upgrade won't break this or other things. So at some point if it looks good you'll need to just try the upgrade and deal with the fallout if any.
[21:22] <davido_> Yeah. That's usually the mode of operation. But I don't usually spot "Known Issues" that seem directly at odds with my typical use pattern.
[21:23] <oerheks> hmm live cd might be not the real situation, as there is a fix released..
[21:24] <Jordan_U> oerheks: A "fix released" for the release notes.
[21:24] <oerheks> oh
[21:24] <davido_> Yeah, that fooled me too.
[21:24] <davido_> Until I started looking for the fix in repo commits :)
[21:25] <oerheks> oke, carry on
[21:46] <fcp14> hello anyone can help please i need to find a iso ubuntu to install on my atom old laptop
[21:46] <fcp14> anyone can help?
[21:46] <fcp14> please
[21:48] <akik> fcp14: what's the problem you've encountered?
[21:50] <genii> Good luck if it's 32bit
[21:50] <akik> 32-bit works fine
[21:50] <genii> Although i think Lubuntu still has one
[21:52] <genii> fcp14: Do you know what atom is in it? Some are 32, some are 64
[21:53] <kostkon> genii, only a few atoms are 32bit only
[21:53] <kostkon> so the odds are good
[21:54] <akik> 16.04 supported until 2021 so no hurry with 32-bit either
[21:54] <kostkon> fcp14, start with 64bit Ubuntu 16.04
[21:54] <fcp14> sorry
[21:55] <fcp14> it's 32 bits
[21:55] <fcp14> and i can't find the url of main repositorys
[21:55] <kostkon> fcp14, how do you know it's 32bit only. What's the cpu model?
[21:56] <fcp14> Intel Atom N270
[21:56] <genii> Yeah 32
[21:56] <fcp14> https://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB
[21:56] <fcp14> i think it's 32 bits
[21:57] <fcp14> Instruction Set 32bits
[21:57] <genii> My N450 is 64, I'm running Kubuntu 18.04 on an ssd with it
[21:57] <fcp14> yap
[21:57] <fcp14> i have an ssd
[21:57] <fcp14> too
[21:57] <kostkon> inte64→no  :(
[21:57] <fcp14> and what version i can install?
[21:57] <oerheks> atom n270 with Intel 945GSE .. nice 32 bit doorstop, not a youtube machine
[21:58] <kostkon> my n455 is 64bit as well
[21:58] <genii> fcp14: If you want to run regular Ubuntu, best bet is 32bit 16.04. 32bit is being abandoned
[21:58] <fcp14> i Ubuntu 17.10 Server (32-bit)
[21:58] <genii> fcp14: Otherwise I'd suggest Lubuntu if you want a GUI
[21:59] <fcp14> what you think genii?
[21:59] <fcp14> Ubuntu 17.10 Server (32-bit)
[21:59] <fcp14> i gona try Ubuntu 17.10 Server (32-bit)
[21:59] <genii> fcp14: If you don't mind CLI only, and it's not an LTS
[22:00] <fcp14> Ubuntu 16.04.3 Desktop (32-bit)
[22:00] <fcp14> ok
[22:00] <fcp14> i gona try Ubuntu 16.04.3 Desktop (32-bit) downloa
[22:00] <akik> fcp14: lubuntu is much easier on the system
[22:00] <akik> lighter
[22:00] <genii> fcp14: Yes, because 16.04 is still good for about 3 more years
[22:01] <fcp14> hum and have all wifi drivers etc?
[22:01] <fcp14> because eeep it's a bit triky
[22:01] <fcp14> because eeep it's a bit tricky
[22:01] <genii> Well, Broadcom usually is, not so much other chipsets
[22:02] <genii> ..but you also have us here to walk you through if there's some problem
[22:02] <fcp14> downloading ;)
[22:02] <genii> work, afk
[22:03] <fcp14> i need that only for a IoT project
[22:03] <fcp14> not an hard utilization
[22:04] <fcp14> i think the lubuntu is great it's a light version
[22:08] <nostrora> Hello,how can i set static ip address in my freshly installed ubuntu 17.10 server ?
[22:10] <ishigoya> I'd set one for this session using ifconfig, and to set it permanently, create a config in /etc/network/interfaces.d
[22:11] <nostrora> ishigoya: ubuntu 17.10 is still using /etc/network/interfaces.d ?
[22:11] <nacc> ishigoya: it's a bit different in netplan
[22:11] <nostrora> not netplan ?
[22:11] <nacc> nostrora: you can install ifupdown (iirc) and it will use /e/n/i still or someone has provided some basic steps with nentplan
[22:11] <nacc> nostrora: let me loook in my logs
[22:12] <ishigoya> idk, do fresh installs still have them? My system has, but it's not a fresh install
[22:12] <nacc> ishigoya: have what?
[22:13] <ishigoya> /etc/network/interfaces.d
[22:13] <nacc> ishigoya: even if it does, 17.10 does not use it by default
[22:13] <nacc> and i think it's not there, but checkig
[22:13] <nacc> yes, it's not
[22:13] <nacc> if you istall ifupdown, it would be
[22:15] <nacc> nostrora: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/05/quick-and-easy-network-configuration-with-netplan/
[22:15] <genii> ishigoya: Ifconfig is no longer installed  by default. Need to use the ip command instead
[22:15] <nostrora> nacc: currently read this :) thanks !
[22:15] <ishigoya> wow, I feel so old
[22:15] <nacc> nostrora: somethingn like http://paste.ubuntu.com/25934471/ (thaks TJ-!) is what you want, in the core of it
[22:19] <akik> nacc: what's the dir for the netplan configs?
[22:19] <nacc> akik: /etc/netplan, i think
[22:20] <akik> nacc: ok thanks, found it
[22:28]  * oerheks wants a netplangui
[22:28] <nadio> how do I force ubuntu to unistall a package, config files everything related to that package
[22:28] <nadio> I want nothing left of the package, for a fresh install
[22:29] <oerheks> choose completely removal in synaptic, or use the --purge option manually, anc remove any ~ /.config/<name>  folder and ~ /.cache/
[22:30] <nadio> oerheks: --purge doesnt remove every single file
[22:30] <oerheks> oh? basicly it should.
[22:31] <nadio> oerheks: config files and alot of crap is always left there
[22:31] <oerheks> err.. that is what i said too, config and cache.
[22:31] <ishigoya> oerheks: just checked the man page: it doesn't touch anything in your home folder
[22:32] <nadio> oerheks: how does complete removal in synaptic work? easy process?
[22:32] <oerheks> ...
[22:32] <oerheks> nadio, yes, synaptic is great with removal, and filtering
[22:33] <nadio> " Graphical package manager" great, I am on a console via SSH with no graphics.
[22:34] <lswsml> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 17.10 with AMD Vega GPU, how do I get the drivers working? Glxinfo currently shows "OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc." and "OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 5.0, 256 bits)"
[22:40] <Haris> hello all
[22:40] <Haris> I'm on 14.04.5 lts. I'm on 5.5.x. I'v just changed my datadir. even though the new datadir is owned my mysql, its still saying ----> /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/plugin.frm' (errno: 13)
[22:40] <Haris> 171111  3:38:00  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
[22:46] <Haris> where are apparmor logs in 14.04.5 ?
[22:47] <elbrujo> on 17.10 ldconfig -v prints stuff but doesn't update the cache, ldconfig updates the cache. Is that a bug that should be reported?
[22:49] <Haris> guys ?
[22:50] <Haris> how do I check apparmor logs ? I think I need to add the new mysql datadir path to mysql's apparmor profile
[22:50] <Haris> where are the apparmor logs ?
[23:03] <TJ-> Haris: generally in /var/log/auth.log, but also sometimes in syslog or kern.log. Depends on release version
[23:03] <Haris> 14.04.5
[23:04] <Haris> I thought auth.log was for login related stuff only
[23:06] <TJ-> Haris: I'm seeing apparmor entries in kern.log but not syslog/auth.log on 16.04
[23:08] <TJ-> elbrujo: does the user executing "ldconfig -v" have write permissions to "/etc/ld.so.cache" ?
[23:09] <Pazooza> One thing about 17.10, i downloaded Googlearth and it installed. Imagine that.
[23:10] <Pazooza> And runs.