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viewer|55401hello, I encountered odd upgrade probelem where installing the last initrd.image....48.generic failed due to out of disk space. the boot partition is 250MB and 6mb free09:55
viewer|55401so all from terminal Isudo rm about 6 initrd.image...xyz.generics dated from consecutive years past. I leave the initrd.46.generic file  and the there is 120mb free09:58
viewer|55401so I do the sudo apt-get -f upgrade  and it runs through for over half an hr or more and then fails installing initrd....48.generic due to out of disk space on partition boot.09:59
viewer|55401and all the initrd.image....30-38 range .generic files all came back dateed today instead of years ago.,10:01
viewer|55401yes I actually backed up the boot partition before doing anything ;^)10:02
viewer|55401aside from being curious why it regenerated the previous years initrd files, I am more curious if there is another option  to upgrade besides Resizing the Boot Partition?10:10
BluesKajHowdy folks11:04
ned300889howdy blueskaj11:47
BluesKajhi ned30088911:47
ned300889what brings you here this morn11:49
BluesKajI'm here every morning :-)11:50
ned300889i suppose there's worse way's to pass time :-)11:51
BluesKajusually up early so this ia what I do most mornings11:52
BluesKajia=is11:52
ned300889ahhh fair enough then.I need to get on with things anyhow so was nice having a brief chat will be back online laters.,#11:55
jonahdoes anyone know how I can get two monitors fired up? I'm on Intel video drivers but both screens just show the same thing... Display settings also just show one monitor. any help really appreciated12:04
jonahi'm running 17.1012:04
BluesKaj!crosspost12:05
ubottuPlease don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.12:05
BluesKajjonah, ^12:05
jonahBluesKaj: Hi sorry I asked in ubuntu first as usually I get more users responding there but after no replies for a while thought I'd best ask here too as I use Kubuntu12:06
BluesKajjonah, muliple monitors isn't my strong suit...kde/plasma has problems with them on various gpus12:10
jonahBluesKaj: is xorg.conf no longer used in ubuntu/kubuntu these days?12:11
BluesKajubuntu uses wayland as an option at login I believe , kde plasma does not ..and nouveau is the only driver for nvidia gpus that support wayland on kde12:13
BluesKajso kde/plasma default is still X11/xorg12:14
jonahBluesKaj: ah ok so if I try set up an xorg.conf file it will still read it in kubuntu then?12:17
BluesKajyes , afaik12:18
IrcsomeBot<Syams Qomar> Anyone is using Shamela's dictionary?12:37
IrcsomeBot<Syams Qomar> Anyone is using Shamela Library?12:47
BluesKajSyams Qomar , this Kubuntu support only, not a chit chat channel12:53
xstreunerHi everyone. I have just resumed my computer from suspension and I have no sound (from neither headphones or pc speakers). I'm on kubuntu 17.10 (but I had this problem also with ubuntu 16.04.3)14:23
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floogyHi, what is the default kind to start pulseaudio in KDE on logon or bootup?15:23
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floogyI got no sound unless I issue pulseaudio -D manually in a bash terminal.15:23
BluesKajfloogy, try /usr/bin/pulseaudio15:23
floogyWhat do you mean by saying try pulseaudio? which pulseaudio points to that file, so I did already, but manually.15:24
floogyPut it into a self created bash script, I guess. But I'm wondering what might be the default method in kde@ubuntu.15:26
BluesKajor make a bash scrpt with kate in your /home/user dir and place it in system settings>startup and shutdown>autostart>scriptfile15:26
BluesKajplacing the path to pulsaudio namely /usr/bin/pulseaudio in the script should start it15:28
BluesKajit works in the konsole15:28
IrcsomeBotSyams Qomar was removed by: Syams Qomar15:28
floogy>Yes, I know. Still eager to know the default way to do it ;)15:32
BluesKajfloogy, you are missing a lib file somewhere15:34
floogyBlueskay, do you mean  `sudo egrep -v '^;|^#|^ *$'  /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service | grep Exec`15:37
floogyWhat gives ls -lhd /etc/systemd/system/{pu,pa}*15:40
floogy on your system, BluesKaj?15:40
BluesKajfloogy, to autocomplete users nicks type the fidrst 3 letters or so then use the tab key15:41
BluesKaj /usr/bin/pulseaudio invokes the app in the konsole ...try it15:42
BluesKajread what i write pls15:43
ZetFuryalt+shift+f12 stop/start compositor, but can this be done via terminal too?15:45
IrcsomeBotIMR3D was removed by: IMR3D15:46
BluesKajok ...BBL15:48
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floogyBluesKaj, you're saying "<BluesKaj> floogy, you are missing a lib file somewhere", therefore I pointed to such a lib file. Then I asked what your systemd folder contains beginning with pa or pu. Maybe I'm missing a link in that systemd folder to enable the service systemwide15:49
floogyBluesKaj, have a nice evening, thank you.15:50
jonahHi I just got this motherboard and I'm finding the integrated intel graphics in kde awful: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z370M%20Pro4/15:53
jonahwhen I scroll in firefox it is all choppy - is that normal??15:53
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aienajust migrate from suse KDE to kubuntu. I just noticed that when I am zooming in to images, zooming in in inkscape I notice a bit of lag and I dont know the term screen tearing. It is not a hardware limitation because I have a GTX 1070 and the proprietary nvidia drivers. Is there something ik KDE triggering this?16:30
aienaIt never happened on suse KDE qhich was als kf5 but with an older Qt16:31
aienathis is kubuntu 17.1016:31
aienahmm seems like an nvidia issue16:35
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BluesKajaiena, install kubuntu-restricted-extras, that might help17:16
aienaBluesKaj: it was actually "sync to vblank" being off by default in nvidia settings that was causing the tearing17:17
aienait became buttery smooth the moment that was enabled17:17
aienacome to think of it this had been he issue before too but it was so long back I forgot about it17:18
aiena*the17:18
BluesKajaiena, , good to hear, must be an oversight, similar to the automute in alsamixer left on by default17:18
aienaso it was a GPU setting I was looking in the wrong places example compositor it may have nothing to do with KDE too17:19
BluesKajin nvidia X server settings17:21
BluesKajok, I'll make note of that, altho mine was turned on, and I don't recall doing so.17:25
CoJaBoHow do I disable write-protect in an SDcard slot?17:27
BluesKajCoJaBo, unmount it17:29
CoJaBoBluesKaj: ..?17:30
CoJaBoBluesKaj: There's not even a filesystem on the card; I can't write one, because it thinks it's read-only17:30
BluesKajdoes lsblk show it17:35
BluesKajCoJaBo, try this, sudo usermod -G disk --append username17:39
CoJaBoBluesKaj: lsblk shows it, says it's readonly17:40
CoJaBoNot sure whayt usermod would have to do with this17:40
BluesKajthe run the command above it will your sernqame to the disk group17:40
BluesKajthen17:40
BluesKajadd17:41
CoJaBoRoot doesn't have those restrictions..17:41
CoJaBoThe actual device is showing up read-only; I need to override that somehow17:42
BluesKajoops username ..I need more light17:42
BluesKajCoJaBo, ok ,look  here if you're skeptical https://askubuntu.com/questions/249376/read-only-sd-cards17:43
CoJaBoBluesKaj: That answer is definitely wrong17:44
CoJaBoSomeone should report that answer actually, because running that command can break the system17:45
CoJaBo1 vote lol  "You need to be a member of group 'disk' to be able to write to the SD card." This is wrong and dangerous. – ijk Dec 11 '15 at 23:4417:45
BluesKajoh really? well I guess youknow better than me then so you can find the correct answer on your own.17:46
CoJaBoI can't find the correct answer, but I know that wrecking user permissions is not going to fix a problem with root :P17:47
BluesKajthat's only adding your username to the disk group , not wrecking user permissions .17:49
CoJaBoBluesKaj: You can't add root to groups; that doesn't make sense17:50
BluesKajit's not root it's user17:50
CoJaBoRoot is the user17:50
BluesKajoh lord17:51
BluesKajnevermind I'm done here17:51
CoJaBoAllowing arbitrary users full R/W access to raw partitions is just... insane17:52
BluesKaj arbitrary users?17:52
CoJaBoAnything non-root17:52
BluesKajgood luck17:52
CoJaBoI think the cardreader is effectively dead. Another brand-new defective laptop :/17:53
BluesKajbesides you're crossposting anyway17:53
CoJaBoBecause noone here can answer17:54
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IrcsomeBotIMR3D was added by: IMR3D18:47
IrcsomeBot<IMR3D> I have the latest update of Kubuntu and Plasma. Is there any way to remove the folder that represents the desktop? I mean, I do not want an active folder, only the wallpaper. I tried the desktop options but there is no option for that.  Thank you.18:53
viewer|45395geepers I got a real stuck problem here. I posted at 9am. out of space on boot partition fails to install initrd.image....48.generic.18:54
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @IMR3D, In Desktop setting, set layout to 'Desktop' instead of folder view18:55
viewer|45395After reboot, no go, GRUB boot off initrd.image.3.13.38 recovery mode18:55
BluesKajIMR3D right click on the desktop, choose 'configure desktop', then choose 'Desktop" in Layout instead of 'Folder View"18:56
viewer|45395used dpkg fix pacakges and it runs through and fails for out of space on /boot for initrd.image.48 ithink.18:56
IrcsomeBot<IMR3D> Thanks, Rik, i can change it18:57
viewer|45395mostimportantlly fromthe recovery menu I was able to boot and now have this desktop running. thank god the browser opened automatically because the font is so tiny I can read anything except the contents of a webpage with big font increases18:57
viewer|45395how do I increase the size of desktop fonts? I cant see any of the words18:58
BluesKajviewer|45395, system settings>fonts18:59
IrcsomeBotIMR3D was removed by: IMR3D18:59
viewer|45395i just opened terminal but small window and impossible to read font18:59
BluesKajviewer|45395, Kmenu> system settings>fonts19:00
viewer|45395so i loook at Kmenu and cant read the words. teh GEAR icon or the crossed tools icon?19:01
viewer|45395teh gear icononly has the submenu items19:01
BluesKajyes19:01
viewer|45395the crossed tools icon has about 10 icons on it19:01
BluesKajnot sunmenu , there are actual apps19:02
viewer|45395i do have a terminal open though and if there is a command line i could type might be more srtaight forward19:02
BluesKajthe gui is much easier to use19:03
BluesKajin this case19:03
viewer|45395if i can read it.19:03
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @IMR3D, Great 😀19:03
viewer|45395ok so i am yours , ive done lots of tech support but there is a visual problem on the screen19:03
BluesKajare you running as root or somethin?19:03
BluesKajor o0n a big screen monitor /tv?19:04
viewer|45395hmmmm during boot recovery , it asked for password, after dpkg repair and going to boot normal, it brouhgt up desktop without request to login19:05
viewer|45395ya this flat tv toshiba19:05
viewer|45395it is my friends box :( i hope i dint fuck it entierly19:05
viewer|45395still I can see the icons but cant read the words.19:06
BluesKajif you can manage to get into system settings , the icon has wrench and hammer crossed19:06
viewer|45395ok wrench hammer i seee that one19:06
viewer|45395whats the font icon?19:07
viewer|45395it has three icons19:07
viewer|45395i take the bottom one19:07
BluesKajdouble T19:07
viewer|45395also a crossed tool19:07
viewer|45395aha19:07
viewer|45395now in TT19:08
viewer|45395but cant really read it arg19:08
BluesKajall fonts button is on the right on the bottom19:08
viewer|45395under gear icon is a Binoculars and a Star19:09
viewer|45395on bottom buttons start at left corner19:09
viewer|45395no buttons on bottom right19:09
viewer|45395the life jacket must be help19:09
BluesKajall fonts button on the far right , it's the bottom button if you chose fonts19:10
BluesKajnope you're on the wromg page19:10
viewer|45395ok so with TT open where do I find    fonts to choose?19:11
viewer|45395ah19:11
viewer|45395so now back at system tools19:11
viewer|45395just hit the back arrow at top of TT wondow19:11
viewer|45395beside TT icon is a screen icon and then a wrnech and gear then two people heads19:13
BluesKajits 2 Ts suoerimposed on top of esch other , one red and other black19:13
viewer|45395ok so i just clicked on that19:13
viewer|45395sothere are 3 panels19:13
viewer|45395skiny left pain has 3 icons and the middel pain is wide with a long list of fonts and the write demostrates the font19:14
viewer|45395painful pane19:15
BluesKajclick the box in each pane and choose the font name, style and size19:16
BluesKaji'm on a panasonic tv and I use 17 size , the style and name are upt o you19:17
viewer|45395clicking on items in middle pain just shows the font in right pane but doesnt allow me to change anything19:17
BluesKajyou have to click the little box in the top left of the pane to enable it's options19:19
BluesKajit's actually above and to the left of the pane19:20
viewer|45395another GEAR icon which has two items on drop down19:20
viewer|45395binoculars and a star19:21
BluesKajthere's no dropdown19:23
viewer|45395i do believe this is 14.0419:24
BluesKajoh , no wonder19:24
viewer|45395dangers19:24
viewer|45395if I can repartiont boot sector for space teh apt-get -f upgrade will be able to complete19:25
viewer|45395not boot sector19:25
viewer|45395boot partition19:25
BluesKajhaven't used 14.04 fo 3 yrs, plasma5 has changed  the look of system settings19:25
viewer|45395and cmd line for increasing system font size19:26
viewer|45395and cmd line?19:26
BluesKajwhy are you using a boot paritition , it's not necessary . a separate / (rro)  partition is a good idea  as is a /home partition19:26
viewer|45395damng19:27
viewer|45395ANY cmd line19:27
BluesKajro=root19:27
viewer|45395cuz this is how I found the box, with a dedicated boot parttion of 250mb19:27
viewer|453956mb free19:27
BluesKajanyway the system settings font setup hasn't changed much iirc19:30
BluesKajthink you're choosing the wrong option  choose fonts , not font amagment19:32
BluesKajerr font management19:32
viewer|45395so after clicking on TT the window i get does not seem to have any indicator for  Fonts Management vs Fonts19:37
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BluesKajviewer|45395, theres a row of buttons on the far right the bottom one should be 'AdjustAll Fonts"19:41
BluesKajafter choosing that you should see the font panes with checkboxes above and tp the left of each pane19:42
IrcsomeBot<IMR3D> Just to say that the same Plasma gadgets that I had in Linux Mint KDE (latest version and that worked without problems, just a few bugs) here in Kubuntu consume an enormity of resources (I have 7 gigas of RAM). So if you have performance problems, try turning off everything related to Plasma.19:42
viewer|45395on my window, there are 4 buttons under the left pane and 2 buttons under the middle pane which lists fonts and those two icons are a big PLUS anda BIG minus19:46
viewer|45395there are two more buttons below the four buttons of theleft pane19:46
viewer|45395and no buttons what so ever onthe right side19:46
viewer|45395above the right pane there is a T with a drop down and a field to type in beside it19:49
BluesKajhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/162603/how-do-i-change-system-wide-font-settings-in-kubuntu    viewer|4539519:49
viewer|45395oh thanks19:49
viewer|45395aathis T drop down has 8 items on it19:49
BluesKajyou'll see what i mean on that page19:50
BluesKajit's not a dropdown19:50
viewer|45395ya mine looks nothing like that19:50
BluesKajif it's 14.04 , it should19:51
viewer|45395ok so whats that cmd line to illustrate the live running version19:52
viewer|45395i shall try hard to read it19:52
BluesKajviewer|45395, lsb_release -a19:58
IrcsomeBotIMR3D was removed by: IMR3D19:58
viewer|4539514.04.05 lts20:01
viewer|45395on the plus side, ctrl shift +  increases the font size int eh terminal I can read it fully clear20:01
viewer|45395yah for temrinal20:01
BluesKajalso works in the browser20:01
viewer|45395ya it works in browser but not on browser menu items20:02
viewer|45395only in the web page portion itself20:02
viewer|45395but i can edit confi files fromthe temrinal now20:02
viewer|45395i think i found the screen shot you sent me20:09
viewer|45395via system settings, the top left icon is a person and beside that I THINK IT SAYS Application Appearance20:10
viewer|45395ya hooo I was able to increase a font in that same window and can read a little bit more20:14
viewer|45395yes I just hit apply and it worked every where20:15
viewer|45395wellit worked almost every where20:16
viewer|45395a new terminal window is still tiny font20:16
viewer|45395however I think i can proceed to resize the boot partition20:16
rimahello20:18
BluesKajviewer|45395, yeah, must bea UEFI/GPT setup, forgot about the required /boot20:23
viewer|45395SO I am in Partition Manager and well to resize the boot partition, I presume I need to UnMount it and also unmount the other parttion which takes up the rest of the drive.20:29
viewer|45395and really, IF I DO THAT will this system just hang?20:29
viewer|45395or will i beable to proceed with resize?20:29
valorieviewer|45395: run a backup on your data first20:30
valorieit will relieve your mind20:30
viewer|45395i bacccked up boot partition yesterday onto the larger partition20:33
viewer|45395shite20:33
viewer|45395so in partition maanger there is20:33
viewer|45395right click has unmount on menu20:34
viewer|45395and /dev/sda2  extended I can select resize but change nothing. on right click menu is Mount instead of UnMount20:34
viewer|45395and as a sub entry /dev/sda5    of type unknown and rightmenu has mount instead o f unmount20:36
viewer|45395how is it that sda 2 is not mounted when I am running this desktop wiht a full boot partition mounted20:36
viewer|45395oh if imliuck this running off of RAM FS20:37
viewer|45395im gonna unmount that bgoot and try the resize20:37
viewer|45395if it hangs when I restart it will remount and hopefully with proper font20:37
viewer|45395so it unmounted and now I can ersize the /boot partition as smaller but not larger20:40
viewer|45395the /dev/sda2  extended allows me to click resize but wont allow changing the actual number sof the size20:41
viewer|45395not too happy , gonna haev to try again tomorrow20:59
DaneGeldHi guys. I'm having trouble with my PC at home. Currently on 16.04.3 LTS, wanting to upgrade to latest release, 17.10, and I'm getting errors from python when running do-release-upgrade -d.21:14
DaneGeldThey're in terminal, and I can't remember the command to get any output sent to a file, so I can show you what it's doing.21:14
DaneGeldHello again. Sorry for the break, I got pulled to do a system restart.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix the problem I mentioned please? It's preventing me upgrading.21:38
DaneGeldBasically, I run do-release-upgrade -d and get about 7 lines of python related errors.21:39
valorieDaneGeld: have you updated and full-upgraded everything before doing that?21:44
valorieyou will have to do TWO upgrades, by the way21:44
DaneGeldyep21:45
valorieturn off LTS first, then upgrade to 16.10, then 17.04, then 17.1021:45
DaneGeldapt-get update  and apt-get upgrade right after21:45
valorieit will take quite awhile21:45
valorienot upgrade -- either dist-upgrade if you use apt-get still21:45
valorieor apt full-upgrade21:46
DaneGeldhow do I turn off LTS? I thought that was the -d in the do-release-upgrade command21:46
valorieeasiest way is in muon, discover or synaptic, whichever you use21:46
DaneGeldnone. I do all my upgrades via command line21:47
valorie!lts21:47
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.21:47
valoriehmmm21:47
valorienot sure how to do that in the cli21:47
DaneGeldwell there must be something in the CLI or none of the apps would be able to do it.  Everything must have a command somewhere :)21:48
valorieof course21:48
valorieI simply don't know what it IS, anddon't have time to google for that right now21:49
valoriebut before going further, is there something that keeps you from just doing a fresh install?21:49
valorieit will be much faster21:49
DaneGeldyes, I have a lot of stuff on here, and my machine is very old. I don't like keep wiping stuff and starting again, my poor hard drives can barely stand the pressure as it is!21:50
krytarik!upgradeofflts | DaneGeld21:52
ubottuDaneGeld: To upgrade from an LTS release of Ubuntu to the next (non-LTS) release, run sudoedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change the prompt= line to "prompt=normal". Then, do sudo do-release-upgrade to begin the upgrade.21:52
valorieoh thanks, krytarik21:53
krytarikSure.21:53
valorieDaneGeld: please be sure you have good backups21:53
valorie"poor old hard drives" sounds chancy21:53
DaneGeldthanks :)21:54
DaneGeldThis is my third frankenstein valorie - it's built from spares and has hard drives from 4 other PCs sitting in it, plus two laptops :D21:55
DaneGeldTotal cap of about 3TB21:55
valorieI reuse old hard drives too21:57
valorieand have backups!21:57
DaneGeldyeah, trouble is I have nowhere to backup to!21:58
DaneGeldAll the HDDs are in use21:58
DaneGeldanyway, upgrade is now underway to zesty, then onto artful. I smell a long night ahead21:58
valorie4T backup drives at Costco are about $75 last I checked22:00
valoriecheaper than insurance!22:00
DaneGeldI might look at getting a ready made PC at some point. I just love a challenge, is all.22:02
DaneGeldanyhow, i'm gonna quit for now - the upgrade is progressing and i need to start closing things down to get ready for them to be upgraded. See ya on the other side22:04
valoriewell, I did that upgrade path to test before Artful release, so I know it works22:04
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