=== viv`d is now known as vivid [09:55] hello, I encountered odd upgrade probelem where installing the last initrd.image....48.generic failed due to out of disk space. the boot partition is 250MB and 6mb free [09:58] so all from terminal Isudo rm about 6 initrd.image...xyz.generics dated from consecutive years past. I leave the initrd.46.generic file and the there is 120mb free [09:59] so I do the sudo apt-get -f upgrade and it runs through for over half an hr or more and then fails installing initrd....48.generic due to out of disk space on partition boot. [10:01] and all the initrd.image....30-38 range .generic files all came back dateed today instead of years ago., [10:02] yes I actually backed up the boot partition before doing anything ;^) [10:10] aside from being curious why it regenerated the previous years initrd files, I am more curious if there is another option to upgrade besides Resizing the Boot Partition? [11:04] Howdy folks [11:47] howdy blueskaj [11:47] hi ned300889 [11:49] what brings you here this morn [11:50] I'm here every morning :-) [11:51] i suppose there's worse way's to pass time :-) [11:52] usually up early so this ia what I do most mornings [11:52] ia=is [11:55] ahhh fair enough then.I need to get on with things anyhow so was nice having a brief chat will be back online laters.,# [12:04] does anyone know how I can get two monitors fired up? I'm on Intel video drivers but both screens just show the same thing... Display settings also just show one monitor. any help really appreciated [12:04] i'm running 17.10 [12:05] !crosspost [12:05] Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [12:05] jonah, ^ [12:06] BluesKaj: Hi sorry I asked in ubuntu first as usually I get more users responding there but after no replies for a while thought I'd best ask here too as I use Kubuntu [12:10] jonah, muliple monitors isn't my strong suit...kde/plasma has problems with them on various gpus [12:11] BluesKaj: is xorg.conf no longer used in ubuntu/kubuntu these days? [12:13] ubuntu uses wayland as an option at login I believe , kde plasma does not ..and nouveau is the only driver for nvidia gpus that support wayland on kde [12:14] so kde/plasma default is still X11/xorg [12:17] BluesKaj: ah ok so if I try set up an xorg.conf file it will still read it in kubuntu then? [12:18] yes , afaik [12:37] Anyone is using Shamela's dictionary? [12:47] Anyone is using Shamela Library? [12:53] Syams Qomar , this Kubuntu support only, not a chit chat channel [14:23] Hi everyone. I have just resumed my computer from suspension and I have no sound (from neither headphones or pc speakers). I'm on kubuntu 17.10 (but I had this problem also with ubuntu 16.04.3) [14:30] !list [14:30] casa: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». === inaki_ is now known as NemesisMate === kubuntu is now known as Guest68062 [15:23] Hi, what is the default kind to start pulseaudio in KDE on logon or bootup? === addamm is now known as a-koy [15:23] I got no sound unless I issue pulseaudio -D manually in a bash terminal. [15:23] floogy, try /usr/bin/pulseaudio [15:24] What do you mean by saying try pulseaudio? which pulseaudio points to that file, so I did already, but manually. [15:26] Put it into a self created bash script, I guess. But I'm wondering what might be the default method in kde@ubuntu. [15:26] or make a bash scrpt with kate in your /home/user dir and place it in system settings>startup and shutdown>autostart>scriptfile [15:28] placing the path to pulsaudio namely /usr/bin/pulseaudio in the script should start it [15:28] it works in the konsole [15:28] Syams Qomar was removed by: Syams Qomar [15:32] >Yes, I know. Still eager to know the default way to do it ;) [15:34] floogy, you are missing a lib file somewhere [15:37] Blueskay, do you mean `sudo egrep -v '^;|^#|^ *$' /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service | grep Exec` [15:40] What gives ls -lhd /etc/systemd/system/{pu,pa}* [15:40] on your system, BluesKaj? [15:41] floogy, to autocomplete users nicks type the fidrst 3 letters or so then use the tab key [15:42] /usr/bin/pulseaudio invokes the app in the konsole ...try it [15:43] read what i write pls [15:45] alt+shift+f12 stop/start compositor, but can this be done via terminal too? [15:46] IMR3D was removed by: IMR3D [15:48] ok ...BBL === luc4_ is now known as luc4 [15:49] BluesKaj, you're saying " floogy, you are missing a lib file somewhere", therefore I pointed to such a lib file. Then I asked what your systemd folder contains beginning with pa or pu. Maybe I'm missing a link in that systemd folder to enable the service systemwide [15:50] BluesKaj, have a nice evening, thank you. [15:53] Hi I just got this motherboard and I'm finding the integrated intel graphics in kde awful: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z370M%20Pro4/ [15:53] when I scroll in firefox it is all choppy - is that normal?? === luc4_ is now known as luc4 [16:30] just migrate from suse KDE to kubuntu. I just noticed that when I am zooming in to images, zooming in in inkscape I notice a bit of lag and I dont know the term screen tearing. It is not a hardware limitation because I have a GTX 1070 and the proprietary nvidia drivers. Is there something ik KDE triggering this? [16:31] It never happened on suse KDE qhich was als kf5 but with an older Qt [16:31] this is kubuntu 17.10 [16:35] hmm seems like an nvidia issue === celine is now known as celine__ [17:16] aiena, install kubuntu-restricted-extras, that might help [17:17] BluesKaj: it was actually "sync to vblank" being off by default in nvidia settings that was causing the tearing [17:17] it became buttery smooth the moment that was enabled [17:18] come to think of it this had been he issue before too but it was so long back I forgot about it [17:18] *the [17:18] aiena, , good to hear, must be an oversight, similar to the automute in alsamixer left on by default [17:19] so it was a GPU setting I was looking in the wrong places example compositor it may have nothing to do with KDE too [17:21] in nvidia X server settings [17:25] ok, I'll make note of that, altho mine was turned on, and I don't recall doing so. [17:27] How do I disable write-protect in an SDcard slot? [17:29] CoJaBo, unmount it [17:30] BluesKaj: ..? [17:30] BluesKaj: There's not even a filesystem on the card; I can't write one, because it thinks it's read-only [17:35] does lsblk show it [17:39] CoJaBo, try this, sudo usermod -G disk --append username [17:40] BluesKaj: lsblk shows it, says it's readonly [17:40] Not sure whayt usermod would have to do with this [17:40] the run the command above it will your sernqame to the disk group [17:40] then [17:41] add [17:41] Root doesn't have those restrictions.. [17:42] The actual device is showing up read-only; I need to override that somehow [17:42] oops username ..I need more light [17:43] CoJaBo, ok ,look here if you're skeptical https://askubuntu.com/questions/249376/read-only-sd-cards [17:44] BluesKaj: That answer is definitely wrong [17:45] Someone should report that answer actually, because running that command can break the system [17:45] 1 vote lol "You need to be a member of group 'disk' to be able to write to the SD card." This is wrong and dangerous. – ijk Dec 11 '15 at 23:44 [17:46] oh really? well I guess youknow better than me then so you can find the correct answer on your own. [17:47] I can't find the correct answer, but I know that wrecking user permissions is not going to fix a problem with root :P [17:49] that's only adding your username to the disk group , not wrecking user permissions . [17:50] BluesKaj: You can't add root to groups; that doesn't make sense [17:50] it's not root it's user [17:50] Root is the user [17:51] oh lord [17:51] nevermind I'm done here [17:52] Allowing arbitrary users full R/W access to raw partitions is just... insane [17:52] arbitrary users? [17:52] Anything non-root [17:52] good luck [17:53] I think the cardreader is effectively dead. Another brand-new defective laptop :/ [17:53] besides you're crossposting anyway [17:54] Because noone here can answer === kubuntu is now known as Guest81011 [18:47] IMR3D was added by: IMR3D [18:53] I have the latest update of Kubuntu and Plasma. Is there any way to remove the folder that represents the desktop? I mean, I do not want an active folder, only the wallpaper. I tried the desktop options but there is no option for that. Thank you. [18:54] geepers I got a real stuck problem here. I posted at 9am. out of space on boot partition fails to install initrd.image....48.generic. [18:55] @IMR3D, In Desktop setting, set layout to 'Desktop' instead of folder view [18:55] After reboot, no go, GRUB boot off initrd.image.3.13.38 recovery mode [18:56] IMR3D right click on the desktop, choose 'configure desktop', then choose 'Desktop" in Layout instead of 'Folder View" [18:56] used dpkg fix pacakges and it runs through and fails for out of space on /boot for initrd.image.48 ithink. [18:57] Thanks, Rik, i can change it [18:57] mostimportantlly fromthe recovery menu I was able to boot and now have this desktop running. thank god the browser opened automatically because the font is so tiny I can read anything except the contents of a webpage with big font increases [18:58] how do I increase the size of desktop fonts? I cant see any of the words [18:59] viewer|45395, system settings>fonts [18:59] IMR3D was removed by: IMR3D [18:59] i just opened terminal but small window and impossible to read font [19:00] viewer|45395, Kmenu> system settings>fonts [19:01] so i loook at Kmenu and cant read the words. teh GEAR icon or the crossed tools icon? [19:01] teh gear icononly has the submenu items [19:01] yes [19:01] the crossed tools icon has about 10 icons on it [19:02] not sunmenu , there are actual apps [19:02] i do have a terminal open though and if there is a command line i could type might be more srtaight forward [19:03] the gui is much easier to use [19:03] in this case [19:03] if i can read it. [19:03] @IMR3D, Great 😀 [19:03] ok so i am yours , ive done lots of tech support but there is a visual problem on the screen [19:03] are you running as root or somethin? [19:04] or o0n a big screen monitor /tv? [19:05] hmmmm during boot recovery , it asked for password, after dpkg repair and going to boot normal, it brouhgt up desktop without request to login [19:05] ya this flat tv toshiba [19:05] it is my friends box :( i hope i dint fuck it entierly [19:06] still I can see the icons but cant read the words. [19:06] if you can manage to get into system settings , the icon has wrench and hammer crossed [19:06] ok wrench hammer i seee that one [19:07] whats the font icon? [19:07] it has three icons [19:07] i take the bottom one [19:07] double T [19:07] also a crossed tool [19:07] aha [19:08] now in TT [19:08] but cant really read it arg [19:08] all fonts button is on the right on the bottom [19:09] under gear icon is a Binoculars and a Star [19:09] on bottom buttons start at left corner [19:09] no buttons on bottom right [19:09] the life jacket must be help [19:10] all fonts button on the far right , it's the bottom button if you chose fonts [19:10] nope you're on the wromg page [19:11] ok so with TT open where do I find fonts to choose? [19:11] ah [19:11] so now back at system tools [19:11] just hit the back arrow at top of TT wondow [19:13] beside TT icon is a screen icon and then a wrnech and gear then two people heads [19:13] its 2 Ts suoerimposed on top of esch other , one red and other black [19:13] ok so i just clicked on that [19:13] sothere are 3 panels [19:14] skiny left pain has 3 icons and the middel pain is wide with a long list of fonts and the write demostrates the font [19:15] painful pane [19:16] click the box in each pane and choose the font name, style and size [19:17] i'm on a panasonic tv and I use 17 size , the style and name are upt o you [19:17] clicking on items in middle pain just shows the font in right pane but doesnt allow me to change anything [19:19] you have to click the little box in the top left of the pane to enable it's options [19:20] it's actually above and to the left of the pane [19:20] another GEAR icon which has two items on drop down [19:21] binoculars and a star [19:23] there's no dropdown [19:24] i do believe this is 14.04 [19:24] oh , no wonder [19:24] dangers [19:25] if I can repartiont boot sector for space teh apt-get -f upgrade will be able to complete [19:25] not boot sector [19:25] boot partition [19:25] haven't used 14.04 fo 3 yrs, plasma5 has changed the look of system settings [19:26] and cmd line for increasing system font size [19:26] and cmd line? [19:26] why are you using a boot paritition , it's not necessary . a separate / (rro) partition is a good idea as is a /home partition [19:27] damng [19:27] ANY cmd line [19:27] ro=root [19:27] cuz this is how I found the box, with a dedicated boot parttion of 250mb [19:27] 6mb free [19:30] anyway the system settings font setup hasn't changed much iirc [19:32] think you're choosing the wrong option choose fonts , not font amagment [19:32] err font management [19:37] so after clicking on TT the window i get does not seem to have any indicator for Fonts Management vs Fonts [19:38] IMR3D was added by: IMR3D [19:41] viewer|45395, theres a row of buttons on the far right the bottom one should be 'AdjustAll Fonts" [19:42] after choosing that you should see the font panes with checkboxes above and tp the left of each pane [19:42] Just to say that the same Plasma gadgets that I had in Linux Mint KDE (latest version and that worked without problems, just a few bugs) here in Kubuntu consume an enormity of resources (I have 7 gigas of RAM). So if you have performance problems, try turning off everything related to Plasma. [19:46] on my window, there are 4 buttons under the left pane and 2 buttons under the middle pane which lists fonts and those two icons are a big PLUS anda BIG minus [19:46] there are two more buttons below the four buttons of theleft pane [19:46] and no buttons what so ever onthe right side [19:49] above the right pane there is a T with a drop down and a field to type in beside it [19:49] https://askubuntu.com/questions/162603/how-do-i-change-system-wide-font-settings-in-kubuntu viewer|45395 [19:49] oh thanks [19:49] aathis T drop down has 8 items on it [19:50] you'll see what i mean on that page [19:50] it's not a dropdown [19:50] ya mine looks nothing like that [19:51] if it's 14.04 , it should [19:52] ok so whats that cmd line to illustrate the live running version [19:52] i shall try hard to read it [19:58] viewer|45395, lsb_release -a [19:58] IMR3D was removed by: IMR3D [20:01] 14.04.05 lts [20:01] on the plus side, ctrl shift + increases the font size int eh terminal I can read it fully clear [20:01] yah for temrinal [20:01] also works in the browser [20:02] ya it works in browser but not on browser menu items [20:02] only in the web page portion itself [20:02] but i can edit confi files fromthe temrinal now [20:09] i think i found the screen shot you sent me [20:10] via system settings, the top left icon is a person and beside that I THINK IT SAYS Application Appearance [20:14] ya hooo I was able to increase a font in that same window and can read a little bit more [20:15] yes I just hit apply and it worked every where [20:16] wellit worked almost every where [20:16] a new terminal window is still tiny font [20:16] however I think i can proceed to resize the boot partition [20:18] hello [20:23] viewer|45395, yeah, must bea UEFI/GPT setup, forgot about the required /boot [20:29] SO I am in Partition Manager and well to resize the boot partition, I presume I need to UnMount it and also unmount the other parttion which takes up the rest of the drive. [20:29] and really, IF I DO THAT will this system just hang? [20:29] or will i beable to proceed with resize? [20:30] viewer|45395: run a backup on your data first [20:30] it will relieve your mind [20:33] i bacccked up boot partition yesterday onto the larger partition [20:33] shite [20:33] so in partition maanger there is [20:34] right click has unmount on menu [20:34] and /dev/sda2 extended I can select resize but change nothing. on right click menu is Mount instead of UnMount [20:36] and as a sub entry /dev/sda5 of type unknown and rightmenu has mount instead o f unmount [20:36] how is it that sda 2 is not mounted when I am running this desktop wiht a full boot partition mounted [20:37] oh if imliuck this running off of RAM FS [20:37] im gonna unmount that bgoot and try the resize [20:37] if it hangs when I restart it will remount and hopefully with proper font [20:40] so it unmounted and now I can ersize the /boot partition as smaller but not larger [20:41] the /dev/sda2 extended allows me to click resize but wont allow changing the actual number sof the size [20:59] not too happy , gonna haev to try again tomorrow [21:14] Hi guys. I'm having trouble with my PC at home. Currently on 16.04.3 LTS, wanting to upgrade to latest release, 17.10, and I'm getting errors from python when running do-release-upgrade -d. [21:14] They're in terminal, and I can't remember the command to get any output sent to a file, so I can show you what it's doing. [21:38] Hello again. Sorry for the break, I got pulled to do a system restart. Does anyone have any idea how to fix the problem I mentioned please? It's preventing me upgrading. [21:39] Basically, I run do-release-upgrade -d and get about 7 lines of python related errors. [21:44] DaneGeld: have you updated and full-upgraded everything before doing that? [21:44] you will have to do TWO upgrades, by the way [21:45] yep [21:45] turn off LTS first, then upgrade to 16.10, then 17.04, then 17.10 [21:45] apt-get update and apt-get upgrade right after [21:45] it will take quite awhile [21:45] not upgrade -- either dist-upgrade if you use apt-get still [21:46] or apt full-upgrade [21:46] how do I turn off LTS? I thought that was the -d in the do-release-upgrade command [21:46] easiest way is in muon, discover or synaptic, whichever you use [21:47] none. I do all my upgrades via command line [21:47] !lts [21:47] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [21:47] hmmm [21:47] not sure how to do that in the cli [21:48] well there must be something in the CLI or none of the apps would be able to do it. Everything must have a command somewhere :) [21:48] of course [21:49] I simply don't know what it IS, anddon't have time to google for that right now [21:49] but before going further, is there something that keeps you from just doing a fresh install? [21:49] it will be much faster [21:50] yes, I have a lot of stuff on here, and my machine is very old. I don't like keep wiping stuff and starting again, my poor hard drives can barely stand the pressure as it is! [21:52] !upgradeofflts | DaneGeld [21:52] DaneGeld: To upgrade from an LTS release of Ubuntu to the next (non-LTS) release, run sudoedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change the prompt= line to "prompt=normal". Then, do sudo do-release-upgrade to begin the upgrade. [21:53] oh thanks, krytarik [21:53] Sure. [21:53] DaneGeld: please be sure you have good backups [21:53] "poor old hard drives" sounds chancy [21:54] thanks :) [21:55] This is my third frankenstein valorie - it's built from spares and has hard drives from 4 other PCs sitting in it, plus two laptops :D [21:55] Total cap of about 3TB [21:57] I reuse old hard drives too [21:57] and have backups! [21:58] yeah, trouble is I have nowhere to backup to! [21:58] All the HDDs are in use [21:58] anyway, upgrade is now underway to zesty, then onto artful. I smell a long night ahead [22:00] 4T backup drives at Costco are about $75 last I checked [22:00] cheaper than insurance! [22:02] I might look at getting a ready made PC at some point. I just love a challenge, is all. [22:04] anyhow, i'm gonna quit for now - the upgrade is progressing and i need to start closing things down to get ready for them to be upgraded. See ya on the other side [22:04] well, I did that upgrade path to test before Artful release, so I know it works === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf