[03:30] <ReedK0> hello everybady
[03:30] <ReedK0> Same question as yesterday: anyone have a successful MATE theme installation?
[07:17] <GizmoRomick> ReedK0: Themes have never worked right for me on MATE.  Hasn't worked well for me on Plasma5 either
[14:24] <naweak> hell
[14:24] <naweak> o
[14:24] <diogenes_> hell ou
[17:18] <gojkochea> does somebody know how to stop muting front panel
[18:02] <futbol_> banho
[18:03] <futbol_> cant download my applications
[18:03] <diogenes_> applications
[18:04] <futbol_> why
[18:04] <diogenes_> why what?
[18:05] <futbol_> cant install apps with ubuntu mate
[18:05] <diogenes_> futbol_, do I have to ask what apps how you try to install? or you let us guess?
[18:06] <futbol_> like itunes and playonlinux
[18:06] <diogenes_> the second question, how you try to?
[18:07] <futbol_> with welcome ubuntumate
[18:07] <diogenes_> is it a new fresh installed?
[18:08] <futbol_> havnt got it thats why am asking
[18:09] <diogenes_> I'm asking if you have just installed ubuntu mate
[19:00] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: could you do a rebuild of ubuntu-mate-meta on bionic for LP: #1581160 ?
[20:17] <atinypoy> ello
[20:20] <atinypoy> can anyone see me?
[20:35] <gojko> how to run alsactl restore on startup tried a couple of ways but didn't work
[20:38] <diogenes_> what have you tried?
[20:41] <gojko> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=193921
[20:43] <gojko> this sorry but I'm new to linux but the problem is front panel headphones dose not work so I stored the settings and now looking for a way to run restore on start up
[20:44] <diogenes_>     gojko so the restore script works but it just doesn't work at startup?
[20:47] <gojko> yup, I'w created start up application but it's not executed, then I type in terminal the command and it works
[20:48] <diogenes_> ok what is the command that yoi type
[20:48] <diogenes_> you*
[20:48] <gojko> sudo alsactl restore
[20:49] <diogenes_> ok now create a simple file called: alsa-restore.desktop
[20:49] <gojko> ok
[20:50] <gojko> done
[20:51] <diogenes_> wait
[20:53] <diogenes_> gojko, in terminal run: ls /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/
[20:53] <diogenes_> all what you get as the result you go here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:53] <diogenes_> copy everything from the terminal
[20:53] <diogenes_> click paste and share the link here
[20:56] <gojko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25941698/
[20:56] <gojko> here you go
[20:56] <diogenes_> k
[20:57] <diogenes_> ok now let's go back to your alsa-restore.desktop file
[20:57] <gojko> ok and thanks a lot
[20:57] <diogenes_> open it in a text editor and add the text from here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25941710/
[20:58] <diogenes_> tell me when you done
[20:58] <gojko> done
[20:58] <diogenes_> save the file and close it
[20:59] <gojko> done
[20:59] <diogenes_> in what folder the file is stored?
[21:00] <gojko> documents
[21:00] <diogenes_> ok now run in terminal: cat /home/$USER/Documents/alsa-restore.desktop
[21:01] <diogenes_> and do the same steps, copy/paste and share the link here
[21:01] <gojko> to change to my username? or keep it at $USER
[21:01] <diogenes_> run the exact command
[21:02] <gojko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25941739/
[21:03] <diogenes_> ok now run: chmod +x /home/$USER/Documents/alsa-restore.desktop
[21:03] <gojko> ok done
[21:03] <diogenes_> notice if the file has changed, icon appeared
[21:04] <gojko> yes it did
[21:04] <diogenes_> now
[21:04] <diogenes_> run: cp /home/$USER/Documents/alsa-restore.desktop /home/$USER/.config/autostart
[21:05] <gojko> done
[21:05] <diogenes_> run: ls /home/$USER/.config/autostart and just tell me if your file is listed in there
[21:07] <gojko> alsa-restore.desktop           indicator-sound.desktop
[21:07] <gojko> alsa-volume-restore.desktop    pulseaudio.desktop
[21:07] <gojko> yes it is
[21:07] <diogenes_> good, reboot your pc, see if it works, come with a feedback
[21:08] <gojko> thanks for the effort man I owe you a beer :)
[21:08] <diogenes_> np
[21:11] <gojko> diogenes_: did not work
[21:11] <diogenes_> yeah sorry I forgot, it's a command that starts with sudo
[21:11] <gojko> checked alsa headphones were muted
[21:12] <gojko> restored them now they work
[21:12] <diogenes_> so it requires the password, so there are two ways, either each time it pops up the terminal asking for password or make it autorum without poassword but a bit risky
[21:14] <gojko> what would you suggest, is one way easier
[21:14] <diogenes_> let's first try with the password
[21:14] <diogenes_> open the alsa-restore file in a text editor
[21:15] <diogenes_> the one from home/$USER/.config/autostart
[21:16] <gojko> ok
[21:16] <gojko> done that
[21:16] <diogenes_> now modify the line: Terminal=false
[21:16] <diogenes_> change to
[21:16] <diogenes_> Terminal=true
[21:16] <gojko> true
[21:16] <diogenes_> save
[21:16] <gojko> ok
[21:16] <diogenes_> close and double click on it and see if it open a terminal
[21:17] <gojko> yes it dose
[21:17] <diogenes_> uok now you reboot again and see if it actually does the job, you will be asked for password at startup
[21:18] <diogenes_> enetr it and see if it works
[21:18] <gojko> ok see you in a bit
[21:18] <diogenes_> ok
[21:23] <gojko> it didn't pop up but it dose the job
[21:23] <diogenes_> hmm strange
[21:24] <diogenes_> ok anyways, if you encounter further problems, come here
[21:26] <gojko> yes i will and thanks a lot I'm struggling with this all day trying different distros to make it work but no successes, maybe not to turn of the pc is the answer :D
[21:27] <diogenes_> wait, you said that it now works, so why bothering?
[21:28] <gojko> it worked but, I opened the file manually and typed the pass
[21:29] <diogenes_> oh that is why, ok then let's try something else
[21:29] <diogenes_> go to System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[21:30] <gojko> to create a new one
[21:31] <diogenes_> first, singe I use a different DE, I don't know how it looks like in mate, what are the options, so you could make a screenshot of it and show it to me
[21:31] <diogenes_> since*
[21:33] <gojko> sure can i paste it in ubuntu
[21:33] <diogenes_> imgur.com
[21:34] <gojko> https://imgur.com/a/D6k02
[21:35] <diogenes_> ok what does it show when you click add
[21:35] <gojko> I'v created the new  entry and link it to the file
[21:35] <diogenes_> ok
[21:36] <diogenes_> but
[21:36] <diogenes_> it might now work if you point directly at the .desktop file, try reboot and see if it works
[21:36] <gojko> https://imgur.com/a/W0Uma
[21:37] <gojko> but whic desktop file in autostart? or the one we created
[21:37] <diogenes_> oh ok it wont work
[21:37] <diogenes_> what you should do is the following
[21:38] <diogenes_> name: whatever
[21:38] <diogenes_> command: sh -c "sudo alsactl restore"
[21:38] <diogenes_> comment: whatever
[21:38] <diogenes_> and also open the options tab and see if there's an option to open the terminal
[21:40] <gojko> only one option to automatically remember running applications when logging out
[21:40] <diogenes_> ok then let's try the risky way only if you want it
[21:41] <gojko> should i try this with  sh -c "sudo alsactl restore"
[21:41] <diogenes_> this which?
[21:42] <gojko> with startup app with command
[21:42] <diogenes_> yes try that, but if there's no option to run in terminal I'm not sure how it will prompt for the password
[21:42] <diogenes_> but try it and reboot
[21:43] <gojko> ok
[21:46] <gojko> lets go risky
[21:47] <diogenes_> first you need to have the installation media usb or dvd to restore everything in case it's needed
[21:47] <gojko> Ohhh I do :D
[21:48] <diogenes_> so you have it?
[21:48] <gojko> yes
[21:48] <diogenes_> ok open the terminal
[21:48] <gojko> ok
[21:49] <diogenes_> run: sudo mkdir /scripts && sudo touch alsa.sh && sudo chmod +x /scripts/alsa.sh
[21:49] <diogenes_> sorry run: sudo mkdir /scripts && sudo touch /scripts/alsa.sh && sudo chmod +x /scripts/alsa.sh
[21:50] <diogenes_> I'm a bit sleepy that's why making mistaked
[21:50] <gojko> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/scripts’: File exists
[21:50] <gojko> relax and not to worry :D
[21:50] <diogenes_> ok run ls /scripts
[21:51] <diogenes_> just tell me what you see
[21:52] <gojko> when I run ls /scripts  it dose not show anything
[21:52] <diogenes_> good
[21:52] <diogenes_> now run: sudo touch /scripts/alsa.sh && sudo chmod +x /scripts/alsa.sh
[21:53] <gojko> ok
[21:53] <gojko> done
[21:53] <diogenes_> now run: sudo echo "#!/bin/bash" > /scripts/alsa.sh
[21:54] <diogenes_> remember, you should not see any output after these commands, if you see anything other than blank, tell me
[21:54] <gojko> bash: !/bin/bash: event not found
[21:55] <gojko> this was after last command, it's all clear till then
[21:55] <diogenes_> ok what is the text editor you use?
[21:55] <diogenes_> gedit? mousepad?
[21:56] <gojko> gedit
[21:56] <diogenes_> run: gksu gedit /scripts/alsa.sh
[21:56] <diogenes_> it should open the file
[21:57] <gojko> I do not have gksu can I use sudo ?
[21:58] <diogenes_> now, run: sudo apt install gksu
[21:58] <diogenes_> don't use sudo
[22:00] <gojko> ok done
[22:00] <diogenes_> run: gksu gedit /scripts/alsa.sh
[22:00] <gojko> opened file
[22:01] <diogenes_> the first line write: #!/bin/bash
[22:01] <gojko> ok
[22:01] <diogenes_> the second line underneath write: sudo alsactl restore
[22:02] <gojko> ok
[22:02] <diogenes_> save the file, run: cat /scripts/alsa.sh paste you know where and share the link here
[22:04] <gojko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25942129/
[22:04] <diogenes_> good now
[22:05] <diogenes_> the following command you should run with maximum accuracy
[22:06] <diogenes_> on it depends if you get a working sudo afterwards
[22:06] <diogenes_> run: run: sudo echo "ALL    ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /scripts/alsa.sh" >>/etc/sudoers
[22:06] <diogenes_> sorry
[22:06] <diogenes_> run only
[22:06] <diogenes_> sudo echo "ALL    ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /scripts/alsa.sh" >>/etc/sudoers
[22:07] <gojko> permission denied
[22:08] <diogenes_> ok run su
[22:08] <diogenes_> enter your password
[22:08] <diogenes_> afterwards run:
[22:08] <diogenes_> echo "ALL    ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /scripts/alsa.sh" >>/etc/sudoers
[22:10] <gojko> It dose not accept my pass
[22:10] <diogenes_> what does it say?
[22:10] <gojko> su: Authentication failure
[22:11] <diogenes_> ok try running: sudo apt update and see if it goes well
[22:11] <gojko> finished well
[22:11] <diogenes_> good
[22:11] <diogenes_> now
[22:12] <diogenes_> run: gksu gedit /etc/sudoers
[22:12] <gojko> ok
[22:12] <diogenes_> did it open a file?
[22:12] <gojko> yes
[22:13] <diogenes_> scroll to the end of the file and at the end add the following line:
[22:13] <diogenes_> ALL    ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /scripts/alsa.sh
[22:13] <diogenes_> maximum accuracy
[22:13] <diogenes_> with spaces
[22:14] <gojko> ok to save ?
[22:14] <diogenes_> save
[22:14] <diogenes_> close the file
[22:14] <diogenes_> and close the terminal
[22:14] <gojko> ok
[22:15] <diogenes_> now to check if the sude is still alive you shoild open the terminala nd run: sudo apt update
[22:16] <gojko> it updated it
[22:16] <diogenes_> good the risky part went well
[22:16] <diogenes_> now
[22:16] <diogenes_> go to  System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[22:16] <gojko> ok
[22:16] <diogenes_> click add and you fill in the lines as follows:
[22:17] <diogenes_> name: alsa-restore-new
[22:17] <diogenes_> command: sh -c "sudo /scripts/alsa.sh"
[22:17] <diogenes_> comment: whatever
[22:17] <gojko> ok done
[22:18] <diogenes_> click ok or save or whaever option and run in terminal: cat /etc/sudoers
[22:18] <diogenes_> paste/share the link
[22:19] <gojko> permission denied
[22:19] <diogenes_> run: sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[22:20] <gojko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25942230/
[22:21] <diogenes_> now
[22:21] <diogenes_> run: cd /scripts/ && ./alsa.sh
[22:21] <diogenes_> notice if it throws any errors
[22:21] <gojko> nope it didn't
[22:22] <diogenes_> ok, the final step
[22:22] <diogenes_> reboot, come back with the feedback
[22:22] <gojko> ok :D
[22:27] <gojko> diogenes_:  guess what it didn't work
[22:27] <diogenes_> ok don't run it
[22:28] <diogenes_> try this:
[22:28] <diogenes_> cd /scripts/ && ./alsa.sh
[22:28] <diogenes_> and see if it runs like that
[22:29] <gojko> nothing happens
[22:29] <diogenes_> cd /scripts/ && sudo ./alsa.sh
[22:31] <gojko> i turned on alsa manually  so I don't now
[22:31] <gojko> but terminal dosen't output anything
[22:31] <diogenes_> nah, we need to test if the script works
[22:32] <diogenes_> the terminal gives no output it means the command went well with no errors
[22:33] <gojko> I just do not know why is so complicated to turn on the headphones
[22:33] <gojko> should I restart it
[22:33] <diogenes_> yes restart but
[22:33] <diogenes_> when it starts don't run anything
[22:34] <diogenes_> just come here
[22:34] <gojko> ok
[22:36] <gojko> diogenes_: ok lets do it
[22:36] <diogenes_> run: cd /scripts/ && sudo ./alsa.sh
[22:36] <diogenes_> afterward check if your headphones owrk
[22:36] <diogenes_> work*
[22:37] <gojko> yes they do
[22:37] <diogenes_> so the script works fine, no password required
[22:37] <diogenes_> now
[22:37] <diogenes_> ls /home/$USER/.config/autostart
[22:38] <diogenes_> just paste here
[22:39] <gojko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25942342/
[22:40] <diogenes_> go to  System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[22:40] <diogenes_> see if out alsa-restore-new
[22:40] <diogenes_> is checked for startup
[22:42] <gojko> it is checked
[22:43] <diogenes_> doeble click on it or edit (if available) make a screenshot and show me the fields you filled in
[22:44] <gojko> https://imgur.com/a/567gA
[22:46] <diogenes_> I'm not quite sure if in the command field there is sh-c or sh -c (a space in between)
[22:46] <gojko> it was a space between
[22:47] <diogenes_> if there is a space then ok
[22:47] <gojko> yes it is a space and the whole field is sh -c "sudo /scripts/alsa.sh"
[22:48] <diogenes_> try to replace the command with: sh -c "cd /scripts/ && sudo ./alsa.sh"
[22:48] <diogenes_> save and now let's create a second one
[22:48] <diogenes_> name: alsa-restore-second
[22:49] <diogenes_> command: cd /scripts/ && sudo ./alsa.sh
[22:49] <diogenes_> comment: something
[22:49] <gojko> done to reboot ?
[22:49] <diogenes_> no
[22:50] <diogenes_> first enlarge that window and show me what other stuff are checked for stratup
[22:50] <diogenes_> startup*
[22:51] <gojko> https://imgur.com/a/6tExF
[22:51] <gojko> the first part
[22:52] <gojko> https://imgur.com/a/dkqPo
[22:52] <gojko> the second part
[22:53] <diogenes_> uncheck the alsa-headphones and alsa volume restore
[22:54] <diogenes_> so you leave our scripts: alsa-restore-new and alsa-restore-second
[22:54] <gojko> ok
[22:54] <diogenes_> also
[22:55] <diogenes_> somewhere in the settings (not sure on mate where exactly) but something related to the session, you have to check and see if the session is being saved upon reboots
[22:55] <diogenes_> we don't need the session to be saved, we need to start with the new session
[22:57] <diogenes_> ok apparently it doesn't have that feature
[22:57] <diogenes_> so reboot and come back
[22:58] <gojko> nope only the one that saves running apps when logging out
[22:58] <diogenes_> uncheck that option too for the test
[22:59] <gojko> it was unchecked all the time
[22:59] <diogenes_> ok reboot
[23:02] <gojko> diogenes_: still nothing
[23:02] <diogenes_> ok I think I know what the problem
[23:02] <diogenes_> the script is being executed too early
[23:02] <diogenes_> we have to increase the time it executes
[23:02] <diogenes_> go to  System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[23:03] <gojko> ok
[23:03] <diogenes_> double click on alsa-restore-new
[23:03] <gojko> ok
[23:04] <diogenes_> change the command with: sh -c "sleep 30; sudo /scripts/alsa.sh"
[23:04] <gojko> changed
[23:05] <diogenes_> save, reboot, after desktop appears count to 30 and only after that come here, check the headphones after that
[23:11] <gojko> its not that
[23:11] <diogenes_> didn't work?
[23:11] <gojko> nope
[23:11] <diogenes_> ok one last try
[23:11] <diogenes_> open terminal
[23:12] <gojko> ok
[23:13] <diogenes_> run: sudo touch /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh && sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:13] <gojko> ok
[23:13] <diogenes_> gksu gedit /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:14] <gojko> opened the new file
[23:14] <diogenes_> first line: #!/bin/bash
[23:14] <diogenes_> second: sleep 40; sudo /scripts/alsa.sh
[23:15] <diogenes_> after that
[23:15] <diogenes_> cat /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:15] <diogenes_> copy here what you get
[23:15] <gojko> the cat /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh  command goes in to the terminal?
[23:16] <diogenes_> yes
[23:16] <gojko> #!/bin/bash
[23:16] <gojko> sleep 40; sudo /scripts/alsa.sh
[23:16] <diogenes_> good
[23:17] <diogenes_> now your headphones don't work right?
[23:17] <gojko> right
[23:17] <diogenes_> run: /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:17] <diogenes_> see if they work
[23:17] <diogenes_> after 40 seconds
[23:19] <gojko> nope still dead
[23:19] <diogenes_> ok once again: gksu gedit /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:20] <gojko> ok
[23:20] <diogenes_> the second line modify: sudo /scripts/alsa.sh
[23:20] <diogenes_> without sleep thing
[23:21] <gojko> and than run /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:21] <diogenes_> yes
[23:21] <diogenes_> see if headphones work
[23:21] <diogenes_> did you save the file first?
[23:22] <gojko> yes i did
[23:22] <gojko> and still nothing
[23:23] <diogenes_> ok this: cd /etc/init.d/ && ./alsa2.sh
[23:23] <diogenes_> check headphones
[23:23] <gojko> nope
[23:24] <diogenes_> ok this: cd /etc/init.d/ && sudo ./alsa2.sh
[23:24] <gojko> dosen't work
[23:24] <diogenes_> this: sudo /scripts/alsa.sh
[23:25] <gojko> nope
[23:26] <diogenes_> this: cd /scripts && sudo ./alsa,sh
[23:26] <diogenes_> see if you get any output
[23:26] <diogenes_> if no output = good
[23:26] <gojko> command not found
[23:27] <diogenes_> this:  cd /scripts && sudo ./alsa.sh
[23:27] <gojko> nothing
[23:28] <diogenes_> go back to application autostart in preferences, check back the: alsa-headphones and alsa volume restore
[23:28] <gojko> done
[23:29] <diogenes_> run: gksu /scripts/alsa.sh
[23:29] <diogenes_> modify the second line
[23:29] <diogenes_> just add: sleep 40;
[23:30] <gojko> you mean gksu gedit?
[23:30] <diogenes_> yes
[23:31] <diogenes_> the second line should look like:the entire second line should look like: sleep 40; sudo alsactl restore
[23:32] <gojko> ok done
[23:32] <diogenes_> save close
[23:32] <diogenes_> before you reboot write down on a paper the following command
[23:32] <diogenes_> sudo rm /etc/init.d/alsa2.sh
[23:33] <diogenes_> you gonna have to use this command in case you can't login to you system after reboot
[23:33] <gojko> ok
[23:33] <diogenes_> reboot, wait till 40 seconds, come here
[23:33] <gojko> ok
[23:37] <gojko> nothing
[23:38] <diogenes_> try start it manually
[23:39] <gojko> alsa restore didnt work
[23:39] <gojko> now i unmuted it and turn them on
[23:39] <diogenes_> so they work or not?
[23:40] <gojko> now they work
[23:40] <gojko> like the store file was deleted
[23:40] <diogenes_> so wait, it looks like it work without you having to run the command?
[23:41] <diogenes_> just unmuted?
[23:41] <gojko> nope it didn't work there was nothing alsa to restore
[23:42] <gojko> so I unmuted headphones in alsa and turned them on
[23:43] <diogenes_> ok then it's something definitely wrong with the way your system handles autostart scripts
[23:44] <gojko> I'v been trying to figure it out for 3 days and still nothing
[23:45] <gojko> every distro i tried the same thing
[23:45] <diogenes_> what distros have you tried?
[23:46] <gojko> kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu manjaro mint debian fedora open suse....
[23:47] <diogenes_> ok what is your pc release year?
[23:47] <gojko> the strange thing is that when I firstly tried mate lts it worked normaly
[23:48] <gojko> 4 years maybe
[23:48] <diogenes_> ok do you happen to have secure boot on?
[23:49] <gojko> no last os was 7
[23:50] <diogenes_> is it a lenovo pc?
[23:50] <gojko> no no its msi motherboard amdx4 750k and amd r7 250
[23:51] <gojko> 8 gigs of ram
[23:51] <diogenes_> ok have you checked for additional drivers?
[23:51] <gojko> nope
[23:51] <diogenes_> check and see maybe they have something for you
[23:53] <gojko> I mean i put the amd cpu proprietary
[23:54] <diogenes_> what version of ubuntu?
[23:54] <gojko> currently? 17.10
[23:55] <diogenes_> so I guess it worked fine on 14.04?
[23:55] <gojko> I didn't have 14.04
[23:56] <diogenes_> you said it worked well before so what version you was using then?
[23:56] <gojko> i was rolling on win7 till the end of last week
[23:56] <gojko> well i diceded to go on linux and installed mate 16.04 first and it worked
[23:57] <diogenes_> oh so that's the reason
[23:57] <diogenes_> then 16.04 is the way to go
[23:57] <gojko> i tried that
[23:57] <diogenes_> and?
[23:57] <gojko> dosen't help
[23:57] <diogenes_> do you ahve a separate /home folder?
[23:58] <gojko> still no sound
[23:58] <gojko> nope only root and swap
[23:58] <diogenes_> my advice is to burn a 16.04 usb and to try is with the live session
[23:59] <diogenes_> not installing