[00:42] <bluesabre> flocculant: around now
[00:43] <bluesabre> Just finished a podcast interview with destination linux
[00:43] <bluesabre> Unit193: got things done :)
[00:45] <flocculant> evening sir :)
[00:47] <flocculant> bluesabre: did you read that mail?
[00:48] <bluesabre> flocculant: not yet, been stressed about a podcast interview for a week :D
[00:48] <flocculant> oh that's bad :(
[00:48] <bluesabre> pulling it up now
[00:49] <bluesabre> I'm a nervous wreck in front of a camera or a presentation
[00:50] <flocculant> I will ensure that from this day forth any mail I send you can be taken as a tramadol/codeine/*zapam/anydrugofchoice substitute - and enough to make anyone smile in future then :)
[00:50] <Unit193> bluesabre: Soo, what was the point in messing around with the PPAs?
[00:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: you do good - I know the feeling
[00:51] <flocculant> Unit193: really? no ice-cream for the gibbering wreck?
[00:51] <flocculant> wicked
[00:51] <flocculant> :p
[00:51] <bluesabre> flocculant, Unit193: we'll be keeping https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging artful synced to our bionic packages, more or less
[00:51] <bluesabre> Should be the only PPA needed
[00:51] <flocculant> 0_0
[00:52] <bluesabre> for QA purposes
[00:52] <flocculant> confused 
[00:52] <flocculant> or the draft was
[00:52] <bluesabre> https://wiki.xubuntu.org/devel/ppa summarizes
[00:52] <flocculant> I'm looking to get as many people as we can checking stuff before it almsot lands?
[00:53] <Unit193> bluesabre: I thought the point was so that we wouldn't be making the same mistake and ship development releases in an LTS again...
[00:53] <bluesabre> Unit193: yes
[00:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: at the monent qa can just wait then - staging is empty
[00:53] <Unit193> Maybe we should just not go LTS on this release?
[00:54] <flocculant> that
[00:54] <bluesabre> We'll be updating the things that are already devel-level and in the archive where it makes sense
[00:54] <flocculant> question 
[00:54] <bluesabre> And for most other things, we won't ship in bionic
[00:54] <flocculant> do we actually HAVE to lts?
[00:55] <Unit193> I mean I'd prefer if we did do an LTS, and then just have a PPA that people can add and then add that to the release announcement.  Have the best of both worlds.
[00:55] <flocculant> bluesabre: then perhaps the ppa levels are wrong?
[00:56] <Unit193> bluesabre: I saw the pad, it seemed to want all the things. :/
[00:56] <flocculant> I don't know - seems that the longer I'm around the less I know what we expect
[00:56] <bluesabre> http://pad.ubuntu.com/PyIIYsyIfn
[00:56] <flocculant> personally I don't care what we ship - or at what release
[00:57] <flocculant> what I care about is what to ask people to test
[00:57] <bluesabre> Unit193: The top section with links and version numbers are things we already have or are probably want
[00:57] <flocculant> currently that is the iso only
[00:57] <bluesabre> Everything else is PPA only
[00:58] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [greybird] r533 Change `librsvg-2-devel` to `librsvg2-devel`... (by Ashesh)
[00:58] <flocculant> I'll let you lot work it all out
[00:58] <flocculant> then you can point akxwi-dave and me at stuff
[00:58] <Unit193> bluesabre: And xfce4-appfinder 4.13 is in there, and a bunch of stuff are in the "test for inclusion."  Am I reading this wrong?
[00:59] <flocculant> if we've got time we can test it - if not we'll call a meeting to stop stuff
[00:59] <bluesabre> Unit193: that was one that ochosi was interested in including, the others are already dev releases in artful and bionic
[01:00] <bluesabre> Unit193, flocculant, tweaked the pad 
[01:02] <bluesabre> flocculant: I'll let you know when that PPA is sorted
[01:03] <Unit193> Ok, I'll take a look later.
[01:03] <Unit193> Also, second poke I've gotten about the Core ISOs.
[01:04] <bluesabre> Unit193: who's poking?
[01:04] <Unit193> Fella in #freenode found me a couple days ago, and just got an email.
[01:06] <bluesabre> nice
[01:06] <Unit193> I can paste you the latter. :P
[01:07] <flocculant> bluesabre Unit193 - !team
[01:07] <flocculant> sigh
[01:07] <flocculant> !team | we need to set meeting asap to sort what we're expecting
[01:07] <flocculant> woohoo
[01:07]  * flocculant sets one
[01:09] <bluesabre> My usual availability more or less applies, 2200 week days, anytime weekends (except next weekend)
[01:09] <flocculant> yup
[01:18] <flocculant> sent
[01:19]  * flocculant now waits for everyone to ignore it till it's too late
[01:19] <flocculant> this is just getting silly imo
[01:20] <bluesabre> I think I have digests set up, so will see later
[01:21] <bluesabre> Feel free to bump https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[01:21] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[01:24] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack - just waiting for a week or so for replies then I'll set meeting
[01:24] <flocculant> hopefully we'll see more than 1 or 2 replies
[01:33] <Unit193> Ooooh, I see.
[01:33] <Unit193> Pad makes more sense now.
[04:58] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r644 Launchpad automatic translations update. (by Launchpad Translations on behalf of xubuntu-dev)
[14:10] <_bob_> do you folks need any developers ?
[16:51] <Unit193> xfce4-dict 0.8.0-1, xfce4-genmon-plugin 4.0.1-1, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.0-1, xfce4-panel 4.13.1-1, xfce4-settings 4.13.1-1, xfce4-fsguard-plugin 1.1.0-1, xfce4-netload-plugin 1.3.1-1, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.3.2-1, xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 2.1.3-1 uploaded (some to experimental of course.)
[17:03] <Unit193> I presume we're going with new notifyd, and I'll get to syncing later (specifically whiskermenu :D)
[17:08] <ochosi> yup, i'll do another notify release soon, some nice fixes in it