[12:55] <sergiusens> snappy-m-o autopkgtest 1727 artful:amd64
[12:55] <snappy-m-o> sergiusens: I've just triggered your test.
[16:33] <elopio> snappy-m-o autopkgtest 1727 xenial:armhf
[16:33] <snappy-m-o> elopio: I've just triggered your test.
[17:06] <sergiusens> elopio that will fail anyways, why trigger it?
[19:37] <sergiusens> ikey niemeyer so the apt thing is only a problem with the snapcraft snap, works fine when running form source (tested on fedora) (cannot get solus running on boxes after the installation takes place but the symptoms should be the same)
[19:37] <ikey> interesting, ty
[19:41] <CoderEurope> Good evening - I would like halp creating a snap on my xubuntu 17.10 lenovo ... 1st try really.
[19:44] <sergiusens> ikey funny how we can use libarchive which allows rpm sources on ubuntu/debian but cannot "import debian" to extract debs on fedora :/
[19:46] <CoderEurope> wait ikey is here ?
[19:46] <ikey> ya
[19:46] <CoderEurope> from Solus ?
[19:46] <ikey> ya
[19:47] <CoderEurope> ikey - how much should your 2nd bounty be (under $20) ?
[19:47] <ikey> what now
[19:47] <ikey> gonna need some context
[19:47] <CoderEurope> doesn't matter.
[19:47] <ikey> otherwise im gonna think you want me to kill someone
[19:47] <ikey> lol
[19:47] <CoderEurope> Ha!
[19:48] <CoderEurope> wats up with Riddell ?
[19:48] <Riddell> do I keep disconnecting?
[19:49] <ikey> yeah your tinterwebz are on the blink
[19:49] <ikey> more likely the fault of freenode tbh though
[19:50] <CoderEurope> Riddell: sup ?
[19:51] <Riddell> paddleboard!
[19:51] <Riddell> (this is a pune or play on words for the canoeists here)
[19:51] <CoderEurope> Ha ! - only on macos my friend - back in the 1990's !
[19:52] <CoderEurope> I had the same machine at school - very B&White thou.
[19:52] <CoderEurope> so quassel snap ....
[19:54] <CoderEurope> is this lady about ? https://phabricator.kde.org/p/scarlettclark/
[19:55] <Riddell> CoderEurope: she's sgclark
[19:55] <Riddell> it's a sunday though so may be away, she's usually around european work hours (despite living in the US)
[19:56] <mup> PR snapd#3734 closed: packaging: add debian-unstable <Decaying> <Created by mwhudson> <Closed by mwhudson> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3734>
[19:56] <CoderEurope> ok - lets see if she available on sundays , otherwise we'll have to do that on our own.
[19:58] <Riddell> CoderEurope: we build snaps on KDE neon, and while we don't build quassel on neon (it's not a KDE project) the .deb packaging is in pkg-kde and you'd be welcome to build a Snap on Neon for it
[19:58] <Riddell> snaps we build https://build.neon.kde.org/view/snap%20(build)/
[19:58] <CoderEurope> Riddell: ok cool, I shall just put it in the snap store though.
[19:59] <Riddell> as you wish
[20:03] <CoderEurope> how do I describe the name of the snap ?
[20:07] <Riddell> CoderEurope: Quassel Client ?
[20:08] <Riddell> IRC frontend which connects to a Quassel Core for persistent connection
[20:08] <CoderEurope> yeah, but how do I actually describe the snap in the yaml ?
[20:08] <Riddell> (no laughing at whatever is up with my connection today)
[20:09] <Riddell> you can see an example .yaml file here if that's what you're asking https://packaging.neon.kde.org/applications/kanagram.git/tree/?h=Neon/unstable
[20:09] <CoderEurope> I am saying I dont know how to describe a yaml on the command line.
[20:11] <CoderEurope> hiya robert_ancell hows the zealand ?
[20:14] <CoderEurope> whao only 210-ish ppl have a first like.
[20:14] <CoderEurope> https://forum.snapcraft.io/badges/11/first-like
[20:26] <robert_ancell> CoderEurope: good morning!
[20:28] <CoderEurope> robert_ancell: Hiya - heard the new gov. is doing well - what is she called in Nz ?
[20:28] <robert_ancell> Jacina Adern is the new PM
[20:29] <robert_ancell> Jacinda rather
[20:29] <robert_ancell> It's easy to do well when you've just started, time will tell :)
[20:30] <robert_ancell> CoderEurope: what country are you in?
[20:30] <CoderEurope> ireland
[20:30] <CoderEurope> looks like she doing well - I shall PM you something I found on reddit.
[20:41] <robert_ancell> codereurope: didn't get any PM...
[20:46] <Son_Goku> hey robert_ancell
[20:46] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: hi!
[20:46] <Son_Goku> [02:44:03 PM]  <sergiusens>	ikey funny how we can use libarchive which allows rpm sources on ubuntu/debian but cannot "import debian" to extract debs on fedora :/
[20:46] <Son_Goku> sergiusens: this is not true
[20:47] <Son_Goku> python-debian is available in Fedora
[20:47] <Son_Goku> in python2 and python3 flavors
[20:47] <Son_Goku> the main problem is that python-apt is unavailable
[20:47] <Son_Goku> robert_ancell: so I see you've made a couple of releases with snapd-glib?
[20:47] <Son_Goku> what's up with the massive API changes?
[20:48] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: the new API?
[20:48] <Son_Goku> 1.24 and 1.25 introduce a bunch of new APIs
[20:48] <Son_Goku> and started deprecating some
[20:48] <robert_ancell> just keeping up with snapd :)
[20:49] <robert_ancell> And I did a big internal refactor as snapd-glib had grown much larger than I expected
[20:49] <robert_ancell> But all the old API is still there (except for the alias API, because I'm sure no-one had ever used it)
[20:49] <robert_ancell> The functions are there, but they just bail out.
[20:51] <Son_Goku> also, gnome-software is now being CI'd in GNOME GitLab
[20:51] <Son_Goku> and because snapd-glib is in Fedora, it's being built and tested in it :)
[20:51] <CoderEurope> CI'd ? IDK what that means ?
[20:52] <Son_Goku> continuously integrated
[20:52] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: awesome!
[20:52] <robert_ancell> I need to enable some CI for snapd-glib
[20:52] <Son_Goku> robert_ancell: now you just need to provide some tests for gnome-software to use for the snap plugin :)
[20:52] <Son_Goku> no one is ever really sure when that plugin works or not
[20:52] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: there's some, but they're not great
[20:53] <Son_Goku> and speaking of which, I got a weird bug forwarded to me: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1509586
[20:53] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku, jibel is working on getting a student to work on some autopilot tests I hear.
[20:54] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: weird bug, I will be very happy when snapd-login-service is dead and buried...
[20:54] <Son_Goku> yeah, it's super-bizarre, as I've never seen this before
[20:54] <Son_Goku> I'm setting up a fresh Fedora 27 VM to test it now
[20:59] <Son_Goku> robert_ancell: as an aside, I also did this: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ngompa/snapcore-el7/
[21:00] <Son_Goku> not quite sure how well it works, as it's a first attempt at offering snap-enabled gnome-software for CentOS 7
[21:00] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: I like the installation instructions
[21:00] <Son_Goku> :D
[21:03] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: was there anything special required for CentOS?
[21:03] <Son_Goku> for a while, it was basically not working
[21:03] <Son_Goku> then CentOS 7 rebased to GNOME 3.22
[21:04] <Son_Goku> the main problem was getting snapd built
[21:04] <Son_Goku> I did decide to take a look at the commits in gnome-3-22 branch and backport all the snap-plugin related ones
[21:07] <robert_ancell> I do try and backport all the snap plugin stuff to 3.22
[21:09] <Son_Goku> :/
[21:09] <Son_Goku> so for me, trying to install snaps through gnome-software hangs on Fedora 27
[21:09] <Son_Goku> it's stuck at 0% installing
[21:10] <Son_Goku> robert_ancell: I don't suppose you have an rhbz account, do you?
[21:12] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku:  I think I do
[21:14] <mwhudson> i wonder if snapd 2.29 works with godbus 3
[21:15] <Son_Goku> mwhudson: just assume no and your life is easier
[21:15] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: yep, I do, using my gmail address
[21:15] <Son_Goku> okay, cool, so that *is* you
[21:16] <Son_Goku> I wasn't sure since I don't usually see things from you with an @gmail.com address
[21:21] <mwhudson> um maybe i shouldn't run sbuild on 3g
[21:23] <mwhudson> src/github.com/snapcore/snapd/userd/launcher.go:76:11: undefined: dbus.ErrMsgInvalidArg
[21:23] <mwhudson> src/github.com/snapcore/snapd/userd/launcher.go:84:10: undefined: dbus.MakeFailedError
[21:23] <mwhudson> ah well
[21:50] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: I'll download F27 and try in a VM...
[21:50] <Son_Goku> robert_ancell: cool, thanks
[21:51] <robert_ancell> Fedora website fail - has a banner for F27 beta but doesn't link to anything...
[21:52] <robert_ancell> Son_Goku: and the download section doesn't seem to have any links to F27 - where do I find the ISO?
[21:52] <Son_Goku> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/27_RC-1.6/Workstation/x86_64/iso/
[21:53] <Son_Goku> this is the build that will be released as Fedora 27 on Tuesday
[21:54] <CoderEurope> ikey: liked your #48 snap post :D
[21:54] <mup> PR #48: s/autopilot/autoupdate/ mostly (leave the unit files alone). Also update the documentation <Created by chipaca> <Merged by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/48>
[21:54] <ikey> :D
[21:54] <ikey> oh should post here
[21:54] <ikey> https://solus-project.com/2017/11/12/this-week-in-solus-install-48/
[21:54] <ikey> Tada
[21:54] <CoderEurope> ikey: Where is the github for the website at ?
[21:54] <ikey> website? private
[21:54] <CoderEurope> ah - cs
[21:55] <ikey> its considered a branding asset and not a public thing
[21:55] <CoderEurope> k
[21:55] <ikey> the help-center is public though
[21:55] <ikey> as it required hoomans to contribute
[21:55] <CoderEurope> can I buy a solus cdvd on ebay ?
[21:55] <ikey> uhm
[21:55] <CoderEurope> A dvd
[21:56] <ikey> probably not?
[21:56]  * CoderEurope only installs from duvd
[21:56] <ikey> o
[21:56]  * ikey didn't know they still made those
[21:56] <ikey> xD
[21:56] <CoderEurope> oh exactly
[21:56] <CoderEurope> you need an ebay shop, eally - to operate over here :)
[21:57]  * CoderEurope wondes if ikey is on ebay ?
[21:57] <ikey> i mean im not saying i wouldnt sell myself
[21:57] <ikey> yknow, friday nights n all
[21:57] <ikey> but im not on ebay
[21:58] <CoderEurope> troo https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ikey?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
[21:58] <CoderEurope> I'd set up a shop for ya ?!!
[21:59] <CoderEurope> if you give us the £5.
[22:00] <ikey> eh yeah no you're grand
[22:00] <ikey> lol
[22:00] <CoderEurope> okay - missed oppourtunity though - its 10 o'clock !
[22:01] <ikey> might have a €5 sat here somewhere but you may come get it yourself
[22:01] <ikey> im not going anywhere now, its cold
[22:01] <ikey> lol
[22:02]  * CoderEurope loooks at the studio door .. its not movin` :D
[22:03] <CoderEurope> 7.2 raqqi earthquake - where do I go for discussion on ubuntu ?
[22:12] <Son_Goku> ikey: super-cold here too
[22:12]  * Son_Goku is bundled up in his bed
[22:14] <ikey> yea i should probably close the window
[22:15] <Son_Goku> nuuuuu...
[22:58]  * ikey blinks at his PM