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didrocksgood morning07:10
seb128good morning desktopers08:32
didrocksre seb12808:34
seb128re :)08:34
willcookemorning08:48
thumpero/ willcooke08:49
thumpero/ seb128 and didrocks08:49
didrockshey willcooke, evening thumper :)08:49
seb128hey willcooke thumper08:49
seb128how are you?08:49
thumpergood08:49
thumperspending my time tonight looking for a resource leak08:49
thumperjust found it08:49
thumperrunning test suite with the fix to see if I broke anything else :)08:50
didrocksthumper: juju was mentioned on the 8 year celebration blog post of Go ;)08:50
thumperoh?08:50
didrockshttps://blog.golang.org/8years08:50
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers!08:53
didrockshey hey oSoMoN08:53
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?08:58
didrocksça va bien, et toi ?08:59
seb128lut oSoMoN09:00
oSoMoNsalut seb12809:00
oSoMoNbien09:00
oSoMoNpas très reposé, mais bien :)09:01
oSoMoNdidrocks, seb128: when you have a moment, please add a word of support or two to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierTilloy/PPUApplication09:02
Laneyhey hey09:02
oSoMoNhey Laney09:02
seb128oSoMoN, oh, sure09:03
seb128hey Laney, how are you? good w.e?09:03
seb128oSoMoN, le w.e c'est fait pour s'amuser et la semaine pour se reposer non ? ;-)09:03
didrocksmorning Laney09:04
oSoMoNseb128, ça c’est la théorie… :)09:05
seb128:-)09:05
Laneyhey oSoMoN didrocks seb12809:06
Laneyseb128: great!09:06
Laneyfamily visiting, went for walks / beer / meals09:06
Laneyyou?09:06
oSoMoNI had a gargantuan raclette for lunch yesterday, that was the highlight of the week-end :)09:08
Laney:D09:09
oSoMoNseb128, so LO in bionic is still failing to build because linebreak functionality is broken with ICU 60. There's an upstream bug report (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113705) but they don't seem to be in a hurry to address it. Do you reckon I should invest time in fixing it myself, or do we skip the corresponding unit test temporarily to allow the package to build, knowing that actual functional09:11
oSoMoNity is broken?09:11
ubot5bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 113705 in framework "linebreak unit test failure when building against libicu 60.1" [Normal,Assigned]09:11
seb128oSoMoN, do we need the update to migrate now? or is it fine to keep it in proposed for a while?09:13
oSoMoNseb128, it's fine to have it in proposed, but it's blocking the 5.4.2 SRU for artful09:15
seb128oSoMoN, do you know what user visible impact it has? like what is not working correctly in libreoffice?09:15
oSoMoNlinebreak is not going to work correctly09:16
oSoMoNthis will be most visible in writer09:16
seb128oSoMoN, SRUs don't require to have the change out of proposed, just to have it uploaded so it doesn't get forgotten09:16
oSoMoNseb128, ah that's a good point, then I'll ping the SRU team to unblock it09:16
ricotzoSoMoN, seb128, hi, lo is the last item blocking the icu transition to complete09:17
seb128oSoMoN, thanks09:17
oSoMoNyeah, I know09:17
seb128ricotz, well, somebody who cares about icu needs to fix that bug then09:17
seb128and hey :)09:17
ricotzoSoMoN, I got the impression it is "just" an behaviour change, e.g. icu/unicode allows breaks on "/" to wrap url or the like09:17
seb128oSoMoN, but in any case we are not forcing in buggy softwares so that option isn't a valid one09:17
seb128oSoMoN, I would keep it in  proposed for now until somebody who cares enough investigate/fixes it09:18
ricotzoSoMoN, but this is better to be investigated by upstream09:19
seb128(which might end up being us, but I wouldn't drop everything else for that yet)09:19
ricotzI would assume upstream bumps to icu 60 with lo 6.0 which will result in a more pressing need for them to fix it09:20
oSoMoNricotz, I agree, but it doesn't look like they're very interested in fixing it, given that they ship an older copy of ICU with LO09:20
oSoMoNricotz, is there any strong indication they intend to bump to 60 with 6.0 ?09:20
oSoMoNor just an assumption?09:20
ricotzoSoMoN, right, especially for the 5.4 branch, but the fix should be backportable09:21
ricotzjust an assumption09:21
oSoMoNwhat I can do is test writer in an i386 VM and see the extent of the linebreak issue09:21
oSoMoNif it's not too bad then we can just skip the unit test temporarily09:22
ricotzI agree09:24
ricotzoSoMoN, fyi, I will copy 5.4.3 to the main PPAs later today09:26
andyrockseb128: hey regarding gnome-disk-utility showing snap squashfs09:26
seb128hey andyrock09:26
andyrockgnome-disk-utility maintainers agreed to accept the patch to skip devices marked as UDISK_IGNORED09:27
andyrockbut we still need to add an udev rule somewhere09:27
andyrockmaybe inside the snap deb package?09:27
seb128andyrock, oh, nice09:29
seb128andyrock, do you have an idea what the udev rule would be already?09:29
oSoMoNricotz, ack, thanks09:30
andyrockseb128: I've already a working one. Let me check if I can make it less generic09:37
andyrockmaking sure it will filter just snap squashfs09:37
seb128andyrock, right, I'm asking because it might make sense in different packages according to what is in the rule09:37
seb128andyrock, if you have a way to flag snaps mount only the snapd package makes sense imho09:38
Laneyindeed09:42
andyrockmmm skipping ignored devices is not an option anymore10:08
andyrockwe could filter for devices mounted in /snap10:09
andyrockbut does snapd mounts always in /snap in all ditros?10:09
seb128andyrock, that's a question for #snappy or the snapcraft forum10:12
ricotzchrisccoulson, hi, do you have a moment?11:44
bigonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1713457 << an idea about this?12:10
ubot5Launchpad bug 1713457 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "DNS search domain not removed from resolv.conf on disconnect" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:10
bigonthis is quite annoying12:10
seb128bigon, I don't think we have much n-m people around, maybe cyphermox or xnox on #ubuntu-devel would know12:24
zhaoqianghi12:30
seb128bigon, you might want to report it upstream, more chance to get a reply there12:35
Laneyandyrock: out of interest, why is not an option?12:40
seb128didrocks, uploading https://launchpadlibrarian.net/344786398/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock_0.8.1_source.changes to artful was an error right? (it's in the queue, asking before rejecting)12:48
seb128Laney, willcooke, do you if robert plans to do a gnome-software SRU to 17.10 and when? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software/ubuntu-artful has quite some segfaults & other issues fixed, it would probably make sense to do an upload now12:51
Laneynot sure but 3.26.2 came out the other day12:53
seb128he was waiting on that?12:53
jbichabigon: do you experience that NM bug on Debian too?12:54
LaneyI don't know, but it would be sensible to upload that12:55
bigonjbicha, seb128 it's the laptop of a coleague12:55
bigonIIRC I don't see that on debian12:56
bigoncould be a problem with resolvconf12:56
ogra_resolvconf is dead and gone (well ... to universe)12:57
seb128systemd-resolved?12:58
ogra_yeah12:58
andyrockLaney: there are other partitions marked with the HintIgnore that should be shown13:02
bigonit's not installed by default in 17.1013:06
bigon?13:06
bigonmmh13:06
bigonvpnc is pulling it on that laptop13:06
bigon13:57 < ogra_> resolvconf is dead and gone (well ... to universe) << uninstalling resolveconf is fixing the probleme here13:27
ogra_do-release-upgrade or update-manager should have removed it actually13:27
bigonit's pulled by vpnc13:28
bigon(or vpn-scripts)13:28
kozawillcooke, hey man, what are the chances PA 11 lands in bionic? rmadison shows v10 packaged as of today13:30
ogra_bigon, ah, that should be fixed then13:34
willcookekoza, pretty good, duflu was looking at it before hols.  1 sec13:35
willcookekoza, https://trello.com/c/2Cy6kdqt13:35
kozawillcooke, sweet13:52
ricotzoSoMoN, fyi, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/44665/13:53
willcookerestart, brb14:17
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TrevinhoHola desktoppers!14:23
TrevinhoI'm back to the digital world....14:23
willcookehey Trevinho!  How you doing :)14:23
seb128hey Trevinho! welcome back! how are you?14:23
seb128still in America?14:23
TrevinhoHi willcooke and seb128...14:23
TrevinhoYeah, México14:23
TrevinhoBut I had great time in Cuba14:23
seb128did you have good holidays? did you manage to really stay away from the keyboard? :)14:24
seb128nice!14:24
TrevinhoA place to be14:24
TrevinhoYes14:24
TrevinhoNo laptops with me... No connection a part in some public parks where it's 1$/hour14:24
TrevinhoAnd not really reliable14:24
seb128nice14:25
TrevinhoSo... Lots of social interactions, using the great social network they have there in human relationships14:25
TrevinhoBasically what we have here with airbnb and uber, there exists for years just using the word of mouth14:26
ogra_uuh ... VoA protocol .. scary14:28
oSoMoNwelcome back Trevinho14:32
Laneyhey Trevinho14:32
Laneyhappy email day14:32
oSoMoNricotz, interesting. I don't see changes related to linebreak though14:34
Trevinho Hi oSoMoN and Laney14:34
ricotzoSoMoN, yes, not part of it and this is blocked by your bug report of course, but there is movement14:42
didrocksseb128: ok, I'm having a déja-vu impression, I thought I removed it (and yeah, grrrr dch -r "")14:50
didrocksseb128: deleting it, I have the page opened14:51
seb128didrocks, k, thanks14:51
didrocksthanks for noticing :)14:51
seb128np!14:51
didrocksah14:51
didrocksRejection comment required.14:51
didrocksprobably why it didn't remove (I'm only adding them for others ;))14:51
seb128"do what I say"14:51
seb128:p14:51
didrocksheh14:51
didrocksso, I wasn't dreaming I tried to remove it already :p14:52
seb128I've probably got bitten by that a few times as well14:52
oSoMoNricotz, that's encouraging14:59
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ricotzchrisccoulson, ping16:10
ricotzsee pm16:13
seb128ricotz, you maybe better ask on channels, other might be able to help?16:21
ricotzseb128, it is a very-specific firefox packaging problem which also hit the current 57 build due some late cherry-picking16:22
seb128k16:22
ricotzthanks, but honestly you can't help here16:23
seb128well we are trying to get out of Chris being the only one to look at firefox16:23
seb128that doesn't work if people ping him only directly16:23
ricotzI know, this part is more trial and error for me still16:24
ricotzregarding distro-specific searchplugins patching16:24
ricotzis there some mass-rebuilding of snaps going on?16:26
ricotzseb128, ^16:27
* Laney doesn't know of one if there is16:45
kenvandinericotz, i've been building a bunch of snaps today :)16:49
kenvandineall done now though16:49
seb128ricotz, k17:01
ricotzkenvandine, ah, I see17:05
chrisccoulsonhi ricotz17:39
chrisccoulsonyeah, I'll take a look at that issue17:39
ricotzchrisccoulson, I have reverted the corresponding changes https://paste.debian.net/plain/99551217:40
ricotzbut I guess a proper fix to deal with those would be nice17:41
* kenvandine just realized that "snap refresh" will refresh all installed snaps18:02
kenvandinewished i had discovered that sooner :)18:02
ricotzchrisccoulson, is this the only change you made compared to the beta branches? https://paste.debian.net/plain/99551818:08
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jbicharobert_ancell: good afternoon23:56
jbichawe were wondering today/yesterday whether you were going to be doing a gnome-software/artful SRU soon since 3.26.2 was released recently23:57

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