[07:10] <didrocks> good morning
[08:32] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:34] <didrocks> re seb128
[08:34] <seb128> re :)
[08:48] <willcooke> morning
[08:49] <thumper> o/ willcooke
[08:49] <thumper> o/ seb128 and didrocks
[08:49] <didrocks> hey willcooke, evening thumper :)
[08:49] <seb128> hey willcooke thumper
[08:49] <seb128> how are you?
[08:49] <thumper> good
[08:49] <thumper> spending my time tonight looking for a resource leak
[08:49] <thumper> just found it
[08:50] <thumper> running test suite with the fix to see if I broke anything else :)
[08:50] <didrocks> thumper: juju was mentioned on the 8 year celebration blog post of Go ;)
[08:50] <thumper> oh?
[08:50] <didrocks> https://blog.golang.org/8years
[08:53] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[08:53] <didrocks> hey hey oSoMoN
[08:58] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va?
[08:59] <didrocks> ça va bien, et toi ?
[09:00] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[09:00] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[09:00] <oSoMoN> bien
[09:01] <oSoMoN> pas très reposé, mais bien :)
[09:02] <oSoMoN> didrocks, seb128: when you have a moment, please add a word of support or two to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierTilloy/PPUApplication
[09:02] <Laney> hey hey
[09:02] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[09:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, oh, sure
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? good w.e?
[09:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, le w.e c'est fait pour s'amuser et la semaine pour se reposer non ? ;-)
[09:04] <didrocks> morning Laney
[09:05] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça c’est la théorie… :)
[09:05] <seb128> :-)
[09:06] <Laney> hey oSoMoN didrocks seb128
[09:06] <Laney> seb128: great!
[09:06] <Laney> family visiting, went for walks / beer / meals
[09:06] <Laney> you?
[09:08] <oSoMoN> I had a gargantuan raclette for lunch yesterday, that was the highlight of the week-end :)
[09:09] <Laney> :D
[09:11] <oSoMoN> seb128, so LO in bionic is still failing to build because linebreak functionality is broken with ICU 60. There's an upstream bug report (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113705) but they don't seem to be in a hurry to address it. Do you reckon I should invest time in fixing it myself, or do we skip the corresponding unit test temporarily to allow the package to build, knowing that actual functional
[09:11] <oSoMoN> ity is broken?
[09:13] <seb128> oSoMoN, do we need the update to migrate now? or is it fine to keep it in proposed for a while?
[09:15] <oSoMoN> seb128, it's fine to have it in proposed, but it's blocking the 5.4.2 SRU for artful
[09:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, do you know what user visible impact it has? like what is not working correctly in libreoffice?
[09:16] <oSoMoN> linebreak is not going to work correctly
[09:16] <oSoMoN> this will be most visible in writer
[09:16] <seb128> oSoMoN, SRUs don't require to have the change out of proposed, just to have it uploaded so it doesn't get forgotten
[09:16] <oSoMoN> seb128, ah that's a good point, then I'll ping the SRU team to unblock it
[09:17] <ricotz> oSoMoN, seb128, hi, lo is the last item blocking the icu transition to complete
[09:17] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[09:17] <oSoMoN> yeah, I know
[09:17] <seb128> ricotz, well, somebody who cares about icu needs to fix that bug then
[09:17] <seb128> and hey :)
[09:17] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I got the impression it is "just" an behaviour change, e.g. icu/unicode allows breaks on "/" to wrap url or the like
[09:17] <seb128> oSoMoN, but in any case we are not forcing in buggy softwares so that option isn't a valid one
[09:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, I would keep it in  proposed for now until somebody who cares enough investigate/fixes it
[09:19] <ricotz> oSoMoN, but this is better to be investigated by upstream
[09:19] <seb128> (which might end up being us, but I wouldn't drop everything else for that yet)
[09:20] <ricotz> I would assume upstream bumps to icu 60 with lo 6.0 which will result in a more pressing need for them to fix it
[09:20] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I agree, but it doesn't look like they're very interested in fixing it, given that they ship an older copy of ICU with LO
[09:20] <oSoMoN> ricotz, is there any strong indication they intend to bump to 60 with 6.0 ?
[09:20] <oSoMoN> or just an assumption?
[09:21] <ricotz> oSoMoN, right, especially for the 5.4 branch, but the fix should be backportable
[09:21] <ricotz> just an assumption
[09:21] <oSoMoN> what I can do is test writer in an i386 VM and see the extent of the linebreak issue
[09:22] <oSoMoN> if it's not too bad then we can just skip the unit test temporarily
[09:24] <ricotz> I agree
[09:26] <ricotz> oSoMoN, fyi, I will copy 5.4.3 to the main PPAs later today
[09:26] <andyrock> seb128: hey regarding gnome-disk-utility showing snap squashfs
[09:26] <seb128> hey andyrock
[09:27] <andyrock> gnome-disk-utility maintainers agreed to accept the patch to skip devices marked as UDISK_IGNORED
[09:27] <andyrock> but we still need to add an udev rule somewhere
[09:27] <andyrock> maybe inside the snap deb package?
[09:29] <seb128> andyrock, oh, nice
[09:29] <seb128> andyrock, do you have an idea what the udev rule would be already?
[09:30] <oSoMoN> ricotz, ack, thanks
[09:37] <andyrock> seb128: I've already a working one. Let me check if I can make it less generic
[09:37] <andyrock> making sure it will filter just snap squashfs
[09:37] <seb128> andyrock, right, I'm asking because it might make sense in different packages according to what is in the rule
[09:38] <seb128> andyrock, if you have a way to flag snaps mount only the snapd package makes sense imho
[09:42] <Laney> indeed
[10:08] <andyrock> mmm skipping ignored devices is not an option anymore
[10:09] <andyrock> we could filter for devices mounted in /snap
[10:09] <andyrock> but does snapd mounts always in /snap in all ditros?
[10:12] <seb128> andyrock, that's a question for #snappy or the snapcraft forum
[11:44] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi, do you have a moment?
[12:10] <bigon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1713457 << an idea about this?
[12:10] <bigon> this is quite annoying
[12:24] <seb128> bigon, I don't think we have much n-m people around, maybe cyphermox or xnox on #ubuntu-devel would know
[12:30] <zhaoqiang> hi
[12:35] <seb128> bigon, you might want to report it upstream, more chance to get a reply there
[12:40] <Laney> andyrock: out of interest, why is not an option?
[12:48] <seb128> didrocks, uploading https://launchpadlibrarian.net/344786398/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock_0.8.1_source.changes to artful was an error right? (it's in the queue, asking before rejecting)
[12:51] <seb128> Laney, willcooke, do you if robert plans to do a gnome-software SRU to 17.10 and when? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software/ubuntu-artful has quite some segfaults & other issues fixed, it would probably make sense to do an upload now
[12:53] <Laney> not sure but 3.26.2 came out the other day
[12:53] <seb128> he was waiting on that?
[12:54] <jbicha> bigon: do you experience that NM bug on Debian too?
[12:55] <Laney> I don't know, but it would be sensible to upload that
[12:55] <bigon> jbicha, seb128 it's the laptop of a coleague
[12:56] <bigon> IIRC I don't see that on debian
[12:56] <bigon> could be a problem with resolvconf
[12:57] <ogra_> resolvconf is dead and gone (well ... to universe)
[12:58] <seb128> systemd-resolved?
[12:58] <ogra_> yeah
[13:02] <andyrock> Laney: there are other partitions marked with the HintIgnore that should be shown
[13:06] <bigon> it's not installed by default in 17.10
[13:06] <bigon> ?
[13:06] <bigon> mmh
[13:06] <bigon> vpnc is pulling it on that laptop
[13:27] <bigon> 13:57 < ogra_> resolvconf is dead and gone (well ... to universe) << uninstalling resolveconf is fixing the probleme here
[13:27] <ogra_> do-release-upgrade or update-manager should have removed it actually
[13:28] <bigon> it's pulled by vpnc
[13:28] <bigon> (or vpn-scripts)
[13:30] <koza> willcooke, hey man, what are the chances PA 11 lands in bionic? rmadison shows v10 packaged as of today
[13:34] <ogra_> bigon, ah, that should be fixed then
[13:35] <willcooke> koza, pretty good, duflu was looking at it before hols.  1 sec
[13:35] <willcooke> koza, https://trello.com/c/2Cy6kdqt
[13:52] <koza> willcooke, sweet
[13:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, fyi, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/44665/
[14:17] <willcooke> restart, brb
[14:23] <Trevinho> Hola desktoppers!
[14:23] <Trevinho> I'm back to the digital world....
[14:23] <willcooke> hey Trevinho!  How you doing :)
[14:23] <seb128> hey Trevinho! welcome back! how are you?
[14:23] <seb128> still in America?
[14:23] <Trevinho> Hi willcooke and seb128...
[14:23] <Trevinho> Yeah, México
[14:23] <Trevinho> But I had great time in Cuba
[14:24] <seb128> did you have good holidays? did you manage to really stay away from the keyboard? :)
[14:24] <seb128> nice!
[14:24] <Trevinho> A place to be
[14:24] <Trevinho> Yes
[14:24] <Trevinho> No laptops with me... No connection a part in some public parks where it's 1$/hour
[14:24] <Trevinho> And not really reliable
[14:25] <seb128> nice
[14:25] <Trevinho> So... Lots of social interactions, using the great social network they have there in human relationships
[14:26] <Trevinho> Basically what we have here with airbnb and uber, there exists for years just using the word of mouth
[14:28] <ogra_> uuh ... VoA protocol .. scary
[14:32] <oSoMoN> welcome back Trevinho
[14:32] <Laney> hey Trevinho
[14:32] <Laney> happy email day
[14:34] <oSoMoN> ricotz, interesting. I don't see changes related to linebreak though
[14:34] <Trevinho>  Hi oSoMoN and Laney
[14:42] <ricotz> oSoMoN, yes, not part of it and this is blocked by your bug report of course, but there is movement
[14:50] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I'm having a déja-vu impression, I thought I removed it (and yeah, grrrr dch -r "")
[14:51] <didrocks> seb128: deleting it, I have the page opened
[14:51] <seb128> didrocks, k, thanks
[14:51] <didrocks> thanks for noticing :)
[14:51] <seb128> np!
[14:51] <didrocks> ah
[14:51] <didrocks> Rejection comment required.
[14:51] <didrocks> probably why it didn't remove (I'm only adding them for others ;))
[14:51] <seb128> "do what I say"
[14:51] <seb128> :p
[14:51] <didrocks> heh
[14:52] <didrocks> so, I wasn't dreaming I tried to remove it already :p
[14:52] <seb128> I've probably got bitten by that a few times as well
[14:59] <oSoMoN> ricotz, that's encouraging
[16:10] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, ping
[16:13] <ricotz> see pm
[16:21] <seb128> ricotz, you maybe better ask on channels, other might be able to help?
[16:22] <ricotz> seb128, it is a very-specific firefox packaging problem which also hit the current 57 build due some late cherry-picking
[16:22] <seb128> k
[16:23] <ricotz> thanks, but honestly you can't help here
[16:23] <seb128> well we are trying to get out of Chris being the only one to look at firefox
[16:23] <seb128> that doesn't work if people ping him only directly
[16:24] <ricotz> I know, this part is more trial and error for me still
[16:24] <ricotz> regarding distro-specific searchplugins patching
[16:26] <ricotz> is there some mass-rebuilding of snaps going on?
[16:27] <ricotz> seb128, ^
[16:45]  * Laney doesn't know of one if there is
[16:49] <kenvandine> ricotz, i've been building a bunch of snaps today :)
[16:49] <kenvandine> all done now though
[17:01] <seb128> ricotz, k
[17:05] <ricotz> kenvandine, ah, I see
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> hi ricotz
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> yeah, I'll take a look at that issue
[17:40] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, I have reverted the corresponding changes https://paste.debian.net/plain/995512
[17:41] <ricotz> but I guess a proper fix to deal with those would be nice
[18:02]  * kenvandine just realized that "snap refresh" will refresh all installed snaps
[18:02] <kenvandine> wished i had discovered that sooner :)
[18:08] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, is this the only change you made compared to the beta branches? https://paste.debian.net/plain/995518
[23:56] <jbicha> robert_ancell: good afternoon
[23:57] <jbicha> we were wondering today/yesterday whether you were going to be doing a gnome-software/artful SRU soon since 3.26.2 was released recently