[15:46] <jdstrand> slangasek: hi! I was trying to use official instructions for creating a bootable usb (desktop). from ubuntu.com I ended up here: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop (fine)
[15:47] <jdstrand> slangasek: at the bottom it says: "We also have several tutorials that explain how to create an Ubuntu DVD or USB flash drive." which is a link to https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/
[15:48] <jdstrand> slangasek: while https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu is located in the middle of the tutorials url, seems like this and the others could be more easily found (as opposed to dropping to the toplevel tutorials page)
[15:49] <davidcalle> jdstrand: +1
[15:49] <davidcalle> (sorry for jumping in, I had a highlight)
[15:49] <davidcalle> (and I can fix this quickly)
[15:50] <jdstrand> davidcalle: thanks! :)
[15:54] <jdstrand> I was a little surprised to see startup disk creator referenced, since I thought it wasn't maintained and that dd was the preferred way, but I'm hardly up to date on the subject
[16:06] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: I fixed up startup disk creator a while ago
[16:07] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: it used dd itself now
[16:07] <mdeslaur> s/used/uses/
[16:35] <mdeslaur> #o
[16:35] <mdeslaur> whoops
[16:35] <tyhicks> hello
[16:35] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:36] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 13 16:36:01 2017 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:36] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:36] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:36] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:36] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:36] <leosilva> o/
[16:39] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: go ahead and we'll circle back to jdstrand
[16:39] <mdeslaur> I'm on community this week
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I have a bunch of security fake syncs to do from debian
[16:40] <mdeslaur> and I need to release some postgresql updates
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I'll pick something up from the list after that
[16:40]  * jdstrand is here now
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I also have to see why none of my bionic packages are migrating
[16:40] <mdeslaur> autopkgdos
[16:40] <mdeslaur> that's about it, jdstrand, you're up
[16:40] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:41] <jdstrand> This week I plan to:
[16:41] <jdstrand> * perform snapd reviews. A lot came in last week and I suspect this will take most of my time. This includes, but is not limited to, reviews pertaining to layouts
[16:41] <jdstrand> * pickup the ssh/gpg interfaces PR since I recently got feedback on it
[16:41] <jdstrand> * investigate/implement proper fix for hotplugged devices not being added to device cgroup (mir input forum issue)
[16:41] <jdstrand> * pickup uid/gid work as have time (though I don't expect to get to it)
[16:41] <jdstrand> that's it from me. sbeattie, you're up
[16:41] <sbeattie> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:42] <sbeattie> I'm researching doing cve triage and notifications for snaps
[16:42] <sbeattie> I have some upstream apparmor work to do
[16:43] <sbeattie> I'll also have the usual kernel cve triage bits, as well as a potential openjdk-7 update to publish
[16:43] <sbeattie> that's probably it for me. tyhicks?
[16:43] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: re dd> that is what I thought, but ps didn't show that, so, weird (maybe I did it too late and after dd was done)
[16:43] <jdstrand> also, why did I bring that up in this channel?
[16:43] <jdstrand> I expect answers :P
[16:44] <tyhicks> I'm on CVE triage this week
[16:44] <tyhicks> I have an embargoed issue
[16:44] <tyhicks> I need to get final clarification on AppArmor audit even ID numbers so that chrisccoulson can begin work on that
[16:45] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: oh, actually, it doesn't use dd, I reimplemented the same thing dd basically does in the dbus service
[16:45] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: sorry, it was a while ago
[16:45] <tyhicks> and I'll be working on squashfs reproduceability
[16:45] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:45] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:45] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: I totally forgot you did anything with usb creator :)
[16:45] <jjohansen> I am working on getting together the 4.15 apparmor pull
[16:45] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: me too :)
[16:45] <jdstrand> hehe
[16:46] <tyhicks> ah, I have to send the 4.15 ecryptfs pull request but the hard work is already done
[16:46]  * jdstrand has a question for jjohansen when he's done
[16:46] <jjohansen> I have a couple of bugs, I am looking at that I would like to get in
[16:47] <jjohansen> I have to get out the policy versioning proposal
[16:47] <jjohansen> I have some more LSM stacking work/replies to do
[16:47] <jjohansen> and I really need to get a pass done on the mount rework, that I promised to look at more than a month ago
[16:48] <jjohansen> thats is more than enough for the week
[16:48] <jjohansen> jdstrand: your Q?
[16:48] <jdstrand> jjohansen: I just wanted to make sure you saw https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-2-27-6-2-in-debian-sid-blocked-on-apparmor-in-kernel-4-13-0-1/2813. upstream 4.13 in Debian is denying something that 4.13 Ubuntu does not seem to be
[16:49] <jdstrand> so, perhaps add that to your list of bugs to investigate? if you need me to help with it, let me know (we don't have to discuss here)
[16:50] <jjohansen> jdstrand: ack, I haven't looked at that so it can go on the list
[16:50] <jjohansen> tyhicks: back to you
[16:51] <tyhicks> sarnold: go ahead
[16:51] <sarnold> niemeyer's conclusions about what should and should not require ptrace isn't really a bug -- the kernel will call resources by whatever names it pleases.
[16:51] <jdstrand> sure
[16:51] <sarnold> I'm in the happy place this week, working on an embargoed code review; it's large enough project that it could realistically grow to consume the whole week unless there's other priorities
[16:52] <sarnold> I'll alsotry to be responsive to apparmor patches
[16:52] <jdstrand> my point is that there is a difference between 4.13/upstream and 4.13/ubuntu
[16:52] <sarnold> and that's a fine point to make :) hehe
[16:52] <jdstrand> :)
[16:53] <sarnold> I think that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:53] <leosilva> I think he's on the dentist, no?
[16:53] <ratliff> chrisccoulson is away for now, so I'll go ahead
[16:54] <ratliff> I'm in the happy place this week.
[16:54] <ratliff> I will be entirely consumed by internally focused work.
[16:54] <ratliff> on to you, leosilva
[16:54] <leosilva> I'm the happy place this week :)
[16:54] <leosilva> I have perl update to finish for esm.
[16:54] <leosilva> After that I will hunting again.
[16:54] <leosilva> that's it for me,
[16:55] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:55] <leosilva> tyhicks: it's back to you
[16:55] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:55] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:55] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:55] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sanlock.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/zope2.13.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/flatnuke.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gnome-shell.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/node-moment.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:55] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:57] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks!
[16:57] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 16:57:37 2017 UTC.
[16:57] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-11-13-16.36.moin.txt
[16:57] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks!
[16:57] <ratliff> thank you, tyhicks!
[16:58] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[16:58] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[17:01] <slangasek> jdstrand: not sure why you're asking me about the tutorials.ubuntu.com content, or on this channel... :)  I don't think I have any control over that
[17:01] <slangasek> jdstrand: but it sounds like maybe you've gotten it fixed?
[17:02] <jdstrand> slangasek: I saw usb creator and thought you might have ideas on what you'd like to see. as for this channel, that is an excellent question :)
[17:02] <jdstrand> slangasek: and yes, davidcalle is fixing it
[17:02] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!
[17:02] <jdstrand> thanks tyhicks!