[00:03] I have Ubuntu 17.10 installed now. What themes do you guys recommend? [00:03] it depends on your environment and preferences [00:04] Sveta: I like themes that are flat. I already found an icon theme that I like. I just need a desktop theme. [00:04] Papirus is my Icon theme [00:04] what environment are you using? is it gnome? [00:05] Sveta: That is default on Ubuntu 17.10. [00:05] SO, yes. [00:07] hi, is there any way to get amd hdmi audio output working on 17.10? [00:08] zqvt8, try turning it on with the pulse controle panel [00:11] gogeta, hdmi shows up as unplugged in the settings. Might this be a driver issue? I think they worked with amd gpu pro on 16.04 [00:11] zqvt8, in pulse volume controle go to the output tab and hdmi [00:11] zqvt8, oh diffrent issue then [00:12] zqvt8, you said audio not no video [00:12] yes, hdmi audio output, video is working fine [00:13] zqvt8, then check the pulse settings [00:13] zqvt8, you normal have to slect that output [00:13] normaly === Isla_de_Muerte is now known as NwS [00:13] zqvt8: install pavucontrol [00:14] zqvt8, yea if not installed install it but it should be [00:15] zqvt8: then you can change between hdmi audio and laptop speakers in the configuration tab [00:16] akik, same for the outtab depending on that you set to defult [00:16] output [00:16] akik, I did that already. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-AMDGPU-DC-Kernel this post seems to suggest that the support is gone since some newer kernel version [00:17] zqvt8, i dought that [00:17] zqvt8: i used it today :) [00:17] oh amd gpu. not sure about that [00:18] zqvt8, hdmi audi is off by defult you just have to turn it on threw pulse [00:19] zqvt8, oh i see [00:19] zqvt8, you can try his kernel then [00:19] that won't fix it, I'll have to go down with the kernel version so that I can use the proprietary driver. [00:20] zqvt8, you can more then 1 insalled [00:20] zqvt8, keep the custom one for when you need hdmi etc [00:21] zqvt8, it should have no negtive effects [00:21] yep, seems like it. If anybody here knows when support arrives in the open source driver would be thankful to know. [00:21] zqvt8, i think it is but ubuntu does not run the latest stuff [00:21] zqvt8, i run arch and i think its in [00:22] oh okay [00:22] zqvt8, i think 4.14 added it [00:26] zqvt8, the issue is amd is very sloppy with there code and it gets removed [00:26] zqvt8, then they clean it up and it gets put back so its always hit and miss [00:27] gogeta, if it's in 4.14 I might just upgrade right? [00:27] zqvt8, you can try that yes === shadoxx_ is now known as shadoxx [01:47] hello i heard real men intall their os by reading the book at linuxfromscratch.org [01:48] we cannot comment on rumours [02:03] Hello fellow ubuntuers, I am trying to get a postfix server up and running with s-nail, and I'm running in to a problem [02:03] I'm following this guide, there are many variants, but the same: [02:04] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-on-ubuntu-16-04 [02:05] on the 7th step the command: "echo 'init' | mail -s 'init' -Snorecord pyro" is supposed to initialize a mail directory structure, it does however not [02:05] It used to be a problem because of some library, but it's supposed to already be patched, but I can not get it to work [02:14] on 2 instances of Ubuntu at this stage [03:03] Greetings denizens [03:03] Anyone alive for help? [03:03] half alive, half dead [03:03] Close enough :) [03:04] I am new to all things Linux, just installed Ubuntu, but can't find any way of getting system info, as in video and audio hardware info [03:05] Chilestuff, short info, or all of the info? [03:06] 'lspci' will list all devices connected via PCI [03:06] lspci -v, lsusb -v, dmesg [03:06] I have installed it next to XP Pro, but apparently my hardware is too new for XP to see, and I need to know what it is so I can find drivers [03:06] 'sudo lshw' will show everything [03:06] Chilestuff, drivers are included in linux [03:06] Is that thru terminal? [03:06] LoLz, xp pro drivers [03:06] * Chilestuff has little experience with command line [03:07] Chilestuff, yes, through the terminal. Why do you have XP Pro? [03:07] Chilestuff, if your hardware is hat old any drivers linux has out of the box [03:07] on an i7/nvme/amd 1060 ? [03:07] Because none of my o;d games will run in winblows 7 [03:08] Chilestuff, they should if you install dx9 [03:08] Processor is an AMD 64 dual core something [03:08] Chilestuff, games that are old enough to run only on XP might be better run in an XP virtual machine or in Wine [03:09] there is wined3d [03:09] hmm [03:09] Cossacks: Back to War, for example, I've run in an XP VM [03:09] thats for windows to run old games [03:09] its new thow [03:09] Actually, I'm specifically wanting all the old Baldurs Gate series, IWD< NWN, etc [03:11] I was told there are linux versions, but I already paid for the windows disks [03:11] Chilestuff, dosbox could handel that [03:11] Chilestuff, winehq's page on running it: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=157 [03:11] Yeah, there's also dosbox [03:11] How do I find dosbox, and set it up? [03:12] I would love to run my games inside Ubuntu [03:12] http://www.dosbox.com/ ? [03:12] Chilestuff, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DOSBox [03:13] playonlinux, a bunch of scripts for wine [03:13] oh right, I forgot there's a pkg [03:13] Chilestuff, dosbox can handel most dos games [03:13] playonlinux is nice, yeah [03:13] XP can't see my sound or video card, or 2 of 3 usb ports [03:13] oerheks, playon kinda sucks [03:13] opal, lutis ownes it [03:13] lutris [03:14] Chilestuff, run xp in a vm [03:14] Chilestuff, vm can emulate dx9 [03:15] Chilestuff, virtual box can emulate a 3d card hence many games work inside it your i7 should have no issue with that [03:16] Seems dosbox don't run BG [03:16] Chilestuff, if its a windows exe wine will if its dos dosbox will [03:16] Pwine? [03:17] er, wine [03:17] !wine' [03:17] pfft [03:17] !wine [03:17] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [03:17] Sweet [03:17] Chilestuff, wine is relly good with old stuff [03:18] Chilestuff, apps like lutris and play on linux have scripts to help make it easy [03:18] Please speak to me as you would an idiot child .. essentially true as I have no knowledge of anything linux [03:18] windows 7 does have such options too, to run as xp [03:18] I just installed Ubuntu today [03:18] Chilestuff, you chould use a vm on windows 7 as well and dosbox [03:19] So wine is a vm I can play my old xp games on [03:19] Chilestuff, no wine does not emulate windows a vm does [03:19] Chilestuff, something like vurtalbox [03:19] installed mono-complete and wine-stable, but cannot run my vb.net application [03:19] Chilestuff, wine is just a compatble layer [03:20] do i need wine-mono? [03:20] Ok, you've switched to greek on me :) [03:21] Chilestuff, wine does not emulate windows it only runs the programs a vm emulates the entire os [03:21] What should I do to make my xp games run in linux? [03:21] Ahh [03:21] So I used the wrong syntax [03:21] But wine will let me play [03:21] Chilestuff, a vm is like having a second pc [03:22] Chilestuff, yes it will indeed [03:22] Kewl [03:23] Yeh wine is a less "drastic" step than a VM [03:23] I like less drastic [03:24] GhostwalkGames, will wine can be a real bear sometimes [03:24] Techno;ogy hates me ... the simpler the better [03:24] I actually run Ubuntu itself in a VM at the moment, I use XFCE to keep ram free [03:25] Chilestuff, but running stuff as old as your talking should be pretty out of the box [03:25] Might try Ubuntu Mate tomorrow its meant to be pretty lightweight too [03:26] Well I actually has IWD running in windows 7, but something updated and hosed it [03:26] Chilestuff, just install wine and click on the .exe [03:26] Looking for the installer now [03:26] Chilestuff, sudo apt-get install wine [03:27] You may need to be more specific, ?sudo apt? [03:28] Chilestuff, sudo apt-get install wine wine-gecko wine-mono [03:28] Chilestuff, thats to install wine [03:28] Chilestuff, from the termnal [03:28] Chilestuff, its just easer then hunting down the packages from the app store [03:30] Oh, so I type all that into terminal [03:31] Doh! [03:31] Package 'wine' has no installation candidate [03:31] GhostwalkGames, I use w10 corp 1703 with wsl and ubuntu 17.04 my "daily driver" [03:31] GhostwalkGames, with xcfe4 (windows 10 the 15 gbbbbbbb bootloader - lol) [03:31] Chilestuff, go figure [03:31] Familiar with Murphy's Law? [03:32] Chilestuff, ubuntu probly changed the command [03:32] Got nothin on Chile's Law [03:32] "Even if it defies the laws of physics, where I'm involved it's gonna find a way to go wrong" [03:32] :P [03:33] Chilestuff, seems ubuntu no longer host it [03:33] Yeah Ubuntu 17.10 is a nice daily driver my other main is Fedora 26 [03:33] figures [03:34] So does it still run in Ubuntu, or am I hosed [03:34] Chilestuff, https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu [03:34] Ubuntu removed Wine from apt ? [03:34] W00t! [03:34] Chilestuff, you need to add it [03:34] GhostwalkGames, seems so [03:35] Not sure why they'd do that [03:35] hmm [03:36] Ok, I'm used to clicking a link and getting a file [03:36] What do I do with this? === Amm0n| is now known as Amm0n [03:36] Chilestuff, hua [03:36] Chilestuff, those are termnal commands [03:36] Sorry, winblows orphan here .. [03:37] GhostwalkGames, mine is installing right now, ubuntu 17.04 [03:37] Right click on desktop- "Create terminal here" [03:37] (at least I think its native ubuntu on this imac) [03:38] My most-used VM is currently on 16.04 [03:38] nothing happened [03:38] Chilestuff, did you add it key and repo [03:39] Did you manage to open terminal? [03:39] Oh I got terminal, but I obviously added the wrong thing [03:39] Chilestuff, no [03:40] Chilestuff, did t ask you to add the repo and key with those 3 comands [03:40] wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/Release.key [03:40] sudo apt-key add Release.key [03:40] sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ [03:40] oh turns out I'm 16.04 myslef on this imac [03:40] I started with "on linux mint" etc [03:41] and it just installed wine just fine [03:41] Yeh most Buntu users are 16.04 probably [03:41] I see [03:41] One sec [03:42] GhostwalkGames, yea i think 16.04 still had it seems newer took it out [03:42] GhostwalkGames, probly keeping dated versions on wine was stupid anyways [03:43] Yeh I guess so [03:43] Ok I got nuthin [03:43] Chilestuff, now sudo apt-get update [03:44] Chilestuff, then after that done sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable [03:44] wine is still in ubuntu [03:44] Is anything supposed to happen? [03:44] it is an older version though, so i'd use the winehq repo anyway [03:44] All that an nothing happened [03:44] Chilestuff, umm what [03:45] I'll check on my macbookpro in a moment and see what ubuntu its at [03:45] I mean I pasted all those commands into terminal and got squat [03:45] ot possableChilestuff, thats np [03:45] No response, nothing [03:45] Chilestuff, thats not possable [03:45] did you do sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable [03:46] * Chilestuff refers you to Chile's Law [03:46] because that's the one that does stuff [03:46] https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/wine-stable [03:46] Do I need the sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ? [03:47] Chilestuff, those are all sepret commands [03:47] Yes [03:47] Chilestuff, but it seems its there [03:47] All 3 [03:47] sudo apt-get install wine-stable [03:48] I installed wine now checking to see if battlefield 1942 works with it on my imac [03:49] hmm [03:49] Chilestuff, did wine stable install [03:50] I've done it a couple times, but I may have screwed up [03:50] Nothing installed [03:50] Chilestuff, thats not not possable [03:50] Chilestuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com [03:50] I paste the commands in treminal and get no response [03:51] Chilestuff, you pressing enter [03:51] pastebin? clever [03:51] Yes I hit enter [03:51] Chilestuff, you should have got a respons of stuff downloading and installing [03:51] And it drops to a > and nothing else [03:51] Chilestuff, are you in termnal [03:51] yes [03:52] > means you typed it wrong [03:52] Chilestuff, ok lets make this easy open your softwhere store and search for wine [03:52] which is why you should pastebin what you're doing [03:52] Sorry, I told you I was an idiot :/ [03:53] for most copy and past is easy but ok [03:54] No wine in store [03:54] I just did apt-get install wine -y and its here [03:54] Please start over [03:54] Chilestuff, sudo apt-get install wine-stable [03:54] What is the first command I enter into terminal? [03:54] copy and paste that [03:55] without your nane [03:55] name [03:55] Ok that worked [03:55] :) [03:55] No i didn't use my nick the first try [03:56] after thats done you should be able to install your game and play it [03:56] But I probably started with the wrong command [03:56] I hope so ... it's running a LOT of stuff [03:57] You mean that one command will DL and install wine? [03:57] Chilestuff, yes [03:57] Chilestuff, its doing rite now isnt it [03:58] Ya know, once I get used to this, I think I'm gonna love it :) [03:58] Chilestuff, yea once you know cli its so easy [03:58] I dunno WHAT it's doing, but it's doing it a lot [03:58] Chilestuff, its installing wine and eveything it needs [03:58] Chilestuff, normaly your ui whont show that [03:59] tip: instal synaptic, a detailed softwarecenter [03:59] yea synaptic is very handy [03:59] I appreciate all the help. Usually a newb gets ragged hard for stupidity [03:59] Chilestuff, naa ubuntu is built for news [03:59] That's what I heard, why I chose it [04:00] Ok, next question .. since I don't need XP, how can I delete it's partition and merge it with the linux partition? [04:01] Chilestuff, from what i see your game is rated platnum on wine === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [04:01] BTW, UI is showing nothing, but terminal is still open and it;s very active [04:01] Chilestuff, you would neeed to do that from your live cd using gparted [04:02] Kewl [04:02] Chilestuff, you cant do it on a active system [04:02] Understandable [04:02] Chilestuff, you would remove xp then expand your linux one [04:03] Easy enough [04:03] Chilestuff, make shure you update grub as well or it will freak out [04:03] grub? [04:03] Chilestuff, the boot loader [04:04] How do I update it? [04:04] Hi how turn on this module on appach? mod_expires.c [04:04] and check all available modules [04:04] Chilestuff, its a ternaml command update-grub [04:05] Chilestuff, anyways your games rated to have no issue on wine [04:05] After partition merge, update-grub [04:05] Chilestuff, yea [04:06] Neo1, a2enmod expires http://linuxpitstop.com/configure-apache-mod_expires-on-file-extensions/ [04:06] Chilestuff, sudo update-grub [04:06] Chilestuff, it simply will remove the windows entry [04:06] sudo seems to be important [04:07] Chilestuff, yes its escalated prevliges for mmodfying system settings [04:07] Ahh [04:07] hmm [04:07] Chilestuff, standers for super user do [04:08] stands [04:08] where in the store should I find wine? There's a LOT of new stuff [04:08] Chilestuff, wine should be installed your done [04:08] Chilestuff, you should have a menu entry now called wine [04:09] Chilestuff, now you just run a exe like you would in windows [04:09] hmm, menu entry? "Show applications"? [04:09] Chilestuff, yea i forget unity ui [04:10] Chilestuff, if your termnel is done just click a windows exe [04:10] Chilestuff, it should open [04:10] Chilestuff, if not right click open with wine launcher [04:11] Chilestuff, so your installer setup.exe [04:12] where in ubuntu httpd.config? I can't find where is list of LoadModules [04:13] there /etc/apache2 [04:13] doesn't exists that file, many small files instead [04:14] hmm [04:14] found wine with "open with", but it won't load [04:14] err, launch [04:15] Chilestuff, it should boldergate isnt listed as nedding anything [04:15] Oh I'm trying Neverwinter Nights [04:15] Chilestuff, is it the gog version? [04:15] Chilestuff, oh [04:15] No, old windows disk [04:16] Chilestuff, its also lsted as not nedding anything [04:16] I'm sure it is :P [04:16] Chilestuff, oh it needs 32bit and dx9 for neverwinter [04:17] did that come in wine? [04:17] Chilestuff, a good app to use to help you is llutris [04:17] lutris [04:17] or play on linux [04:17] Chilestuff, they have pre settings for games [04:18] How do I get it? [04:19] https://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html [04:19] thers instructions [04:21] Chilestuff, also neverwinter has a native linux version [04:21] Chilestuff, you dont need wine [04:21] How much and where? [04:22] Seems a shame to buy it twice, but at this point, worth it [04:22] no [04:22] it uses your cd [04:23] ok playonlinux done [04:23] Chilestuff, it will have scripts to install game [04:24] Hidden folder? [04:24] Chilestuff, pol works on mostly cd style [04:24] Chilestuff, if you installed it it will show up as play on linux [04:24] under games [04:24] Chilestuff, or on your show apps [04:24] I didn't install it on linux [04:25] ? [04:25] Only in xp of another partition [04:25] install what [04:25] NWN [04:25] oh [04:25] That's the whole reason I installed XP ... so I could play [04:26] Chilestuff, then you would need to take more setups to setup wine as 32bit and dc9 [04:26] dx9 [04:26] Ahh [04:26] Man I owe you huge for your help [04:26] Do you like spicy foods [04:26] ? [04:26] Chilestuff, lol [04:27] check out chilestuff.com [04:27] Chilestuff, it may be a bit diffcult to teach you prefixes lol [04:27] I'll learn [04:27] Chilestuff, a good ui is q4wine [04:27] Already learning a lot, and just installed Ubuntu [04:27] is desktop version better for learning ubuntu server? [04:28] Chilestuff, it helps with manage prefixes with a ui [04:28] I've installed server version and can't learn folder structure. Dark screen annoying. [04:28] Chilestuff, bascily you make a 32bit prefix and add dx9 to it [04:28] with winetricks [04:29] Chilestuff, then neverwinter will run a good area for help with wine is #wine on irc [04:29] So how do I find winetricks? [04:29] Neo1, server only has a few more app and no ui [04:30] Chilestuff, sudo apt-get install winetricks [04:30] Neo1, using desktop is fine [04:31] it's equal, anyway we learn only terminal and it is in both versions. On desktop open terminal and learn it. If you need look on files you easy use filemanager. Or something modify with file [04:31] yep wine working great - just got done playing battlefield1942 for 10 min [04:31] donofrio_, he got wine installed [04:31] donofrio_, he just now needs to deal with its querks [04:32] donofrio_, for a wookie with everything its gona be a task [04:33] Neo1, even on server we using something like midnight commander not just bash [04:33] Neo1, mc is a ncurses ui [04:34] what is midnight commander, it is also terminal [04:34] Neo1, yes [04:34] is there a way to watch as to why a wifi ping would suddently go into the thousands? [04:35] Neo1, https://www.gnu.org/software/mc/images/mc-panels.png [04:35] Well winetrix says dx9 is "overkill", but it's installing [04:35] Chilestuff, its all the dlls [04:36] Yeah, I saw the list and almost had an anurism :) [04:36] gogeta, hey how remember all command? I should write all of them to file? [04:37] Neo1, even i dont know every command [04:37] Coulda fooled me :P [04:37] gogeta: and you use file for remember? [04:37] I use google document type for save some data [04:37] Neo1, no just what i know [04:37] useful tool [04:38] Chilestuff, i been using linux sense 96 so i know most major apps [04:38] * Chilestuff would probably forget his own name if he didn't have someone yell at him once in a while [04:38] I 5 minutes ago turned on appach and already forget that two commands [04:39] gogeta: if don't save commands, next time you'll be again seeking and asking [04:39] * alcane needs a way to watch wifi traffic to understand why it goes into the thousands minutes after connecting to any wifi network [04:40] alcane, wireshark [04:40] * Chilestuff remembers fondly working on the old ST-225s ... 40 Meg, and , "My GAWD! Who's ever gonna need THAT much storage?" [04:41] Chilestuff, i still have my c64 :) [04:41] I make clocks out of the HDDs now :) [04:42] Of course, when the tech changed faster than my shorts, I decided makin hot sauce was the carreer for me [04:42] Chilestuff, it still active to of course using some modern mods like a sd card and eathernet [04:42] Really?! I'm impressed! [04:44] Chilestuff, and some guy built me a new power supply as the old ones cant be serviced and tend to go roge and blow them up these days. [04:44] I'm trying to use bleachbit to delete a .txt file but it states an error: no such file or directory. [04:45] Had a buddy once teach a non tech supervisor a lesson with a capacitor from a telex machine ... the size of a couple paint cans stacked [04:45] lol [04:46] Removed it without discharging, and the super comes in trying to tell techs how to do their job ... "Hold this for a sec..." [04:46] lol [04:46] BAM! [04:47] Never came back in the shop :)\ [04:49] I'm trying to use bleachbit to delete a .txt file but it states an error: no such file or directory. [04:49]