| robert_ancell | jbicha: I was waiting on jibel doing a QA run on it | 01:25 |
|---|---|---|
| jbicha | good idea | 01:25 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: it's all in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software | 01:26 |
| robert_ancell | and the packaging branches | 01:26 |
| jbicha | do you intend to update it with 3.26.2? | 01:31 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: I was expecting that in a following release, but it could be rolled in. I'll email jibel and check where he's at with it. | 01:33 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha: was there anything in particular to take from 3.26.2? | 01:33 |
| jbicha | I wasn't looking for anything particular, just wondering how far along QA was | 01:34 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:53 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:35 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:47 |
| oSoMoN | good morning seb128 | 08:57 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 08:58 |
| Laney | hey hey | 09:03 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, morning Laney | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:03 |
| oSoMoN | hey didrocks, hey Laney | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, ça va, et toi? | 09:04 |
| willcooke | morning all | 09:04 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ça va bien ! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | salut willcooke | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | mornin' willcooke | 09:06 |
| Laney | hey didrocks seb128 oSoMoN willcooke | 09:07 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah i'm alright | 09:07 |
| Laney | downstairs lights started tripping the circuit though | 09:07 |
| Laney | i just opened it up and it's a bit wet in there :| | 09:07 |
| Laney | how about you? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | be careful | 09:13 |
| Laney | it's off at the main switch | 09:14 |
| Laney | annoying though | 09:14 |
| Laney | must be coming through from the bathroom above | 09:14 |
| _amano | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Shell-4-Proposals --> both proposals will take ages to inplement. Can MIR be hacked to do what they want? To sit between Wayland and GNOME Shell? | 09:15 |
| _amano | Maybe Andrea can hack a prototype/proof of concept for next GUADEC. It would be a nice conclusion to the whole MIR drama/story arc ;) | 09:17 |
| willcooke | alan_g, Saviq ^ might be up your alley? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | that sounds like a weird idea | 09:19 |
| * alan_g takes a look | 09:19 | |
| alan_g | RAOF: maybe we should add ^ to the agenda this morning? (Although on a quick reading it is just re-inventing Mir) | 09:25 |
| RAOF | ??? | 09:26 |
| alan_g | https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/GnomeShell/GnomeShell4 | 09:26 |
| RAOF | Ah, yay! | 09:26 |
| RAOF | A link, rather than a click-capturing summary! | 09:26 |
| alan_g | _amano> Maybe Andrea can hack a prototype/proof of concept for next GUADEC. It would be a nice conclusion to the whole MIR drama/story arc ;) | 09:27 |
| RAOF | Heh. Yeah. | 09:31 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, thanks for the endorsement :) | 10:33 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: yw! ;) | 10:34 |
| * pitti bids good morning to the fine Ubuntu desktoppers | 10:42 | |
| pitti | Laney: ah, having fun with the lxd runners again? (just saw your wiki edit) | 10:42 |
| didrocks | hey hey pitti, how are you? | 10:42 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks! wrestling with chrome-headless for testing.. yourself? | 10:43 |
| didrocks | I'm good, thanks! Funny to navigate in the Shell between C and javascript :p | 10:44 |
| Laney | hey pitti | 10:46 |
| Laney | nice to see you keeping an eye ;-) | 10:47 |
| Laney | tests are hitting ENOSPC so I'm reducing parallelism a bit and adding another couple of instances | 10:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: heh, sounds like my life :) | 10:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, that's what I reckon when seeing your Cockpit work :p | 10:48 |
| pitti | Laney: yeah, I still like that baby of mine :) | 10:48 |
| Laney | we have arm64 and s390x clouds now | 10:49 |
| pitti | yeah, I noticed s390x; great to see progress there! | 10:50 |
| pitti | arm64 already existed during my time, but we didn't run that arch in britney yet due to capacity issues | 10:51 |
| Laney | right, it's a full cloud now | 10:54 |
| oSoMoN | chrisccoulson, thanks for the endorsement! | 12:19 |
| oSoMoN | chrisccoulson, oh, and thanks for publishing chromium 62.0.3202.89, too! | 12:33 |
| jibel | cannot upgrade to 18.04 under wayland. the release upgrader crashed :/ | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | jbicha, time to add it to the list on bug 1713313 ? :) | 13:30 |
| ubot5 | bug 1713313 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "Unable to launch pkexec'ed applications on Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713313 | 13:30 |
| jibel | ogra_, slightly different failure mode, it segfaults | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | ouch | 13:32 |
| xclaesse | Hm, totem in 17.10 cannot play any video on wayland session :/ | 14:28 |
| xclaesse | seems caused by vaapi | 14:28 |
| willcooke | xclaesse, we're just about to start our meeting, would you mind logging a bug and we can take a look. | 14:30 |
| willcooke | (in the meantime, I'll do some testing here) | 14:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop team weekly meeting - 2017-11-14 | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Nov 14 14:31:08 2017 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:31 |
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| kenvandine | o/ | 14:31 |
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (hols), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | 🐸/ | 14:31 |
| andyrock | o? | 14:31 |
| andyrock | o/ | 14:31 |
| didrocks | hey! | 14:31 |
| jibel | hi | 14:31 |
| * didrocks decided to crash the Shell just *NOW* | 14:32 | |
| seb128 | hey | 14:32 |
| willcooke | Just going to give people another minute and we can get started | 14:32 |
| Laney | meow | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | woof | 14:33 |
| * willcooke kicks off a big buck bunny download | 14:34 | |
| willcooke | ok, let's go | 14:34 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 14:34 |
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| andyrock | 1) WIP: Livepatch - Software Properties integration | 14:34 |
| andyrock | 2) WIP: Removing snaps loops devices from gnome-disk-utilities. | 14:34 |
| andyrock | 3) WIP: Properly scaling appindicator icons in gnome-shell | 14:34 |
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| willcooke | thanks andyrock | 14:35 |
| willcooke | andyrock, eof? | 14:35 |
| andyrock | yep | 14:35 |
| willcooke | ta | 14:35 |
| andyrock | not much this week | 14:35 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 14:35 |
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| dgadomski | hey | 14:35 |
| dgadomski | * fixed regression in cups - bug #1729910 | 14:35 |
| dgadomski | * did some tests regarding python TLS1.2 support on Trusty - looks like it's all supported thanks to underlying openssl, but it's not possible to force TLS1.1 or 1.2 from Python - one needs to depened on the other endpoint or openssl | 14:35 |
| dgadomski | * analysed what does pcp needs libpapi for (bug #1700827 and bug #1704130) - looks like it's really useful and should be included in main as well | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1729910 in cups (Ubuntu Artful) "lp ignores ~/.cups/lpoptions in 17.10" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1729910 | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1700827 in pcp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pcp package" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700827 | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1704130 in papi (Ubuntu) "[MIR] papi" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1704130 | 14:35 |
| dgadomski | eof | 14:35 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 14:35 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 14:35 |
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| didrocks | hey! | 14:36 |
| didrocks | * GNOME Shell: | 14:36 |
| didrocks | - got some initial feedback on extension vs mode (but needs them to check with design), mode some first modifications and post them on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789852#c8 | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 789852 in general "Ensure extensions parts of a mode are from system, report back correct status for g-s-extension-prefs" [Normal,New] | 14:36 |
| didrocks | - Work on design's volume level override proposal. Patched gsettings-desktop-schemas, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell (will need to patch g-c-c once I get a design for it). More info on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790280, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790281 and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710424. | 14:36 |
| didrocks | * Dash to Dock: | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 790280 in general "Volume up key sets volume back to 100%, if volume previously surpassed 100%" [Normal,New] | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 790281 in general "Volume up key sets volume back to 100%, if volume previously surpassed 100%" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 14:36 |
| didrocks | - Work on enhancing Dock transparent behavior, got some feedback upstream on how to change it. | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 710424 in media-keys "Volume up key sets volume back to 100%, if volume previously surpassed 100%" [Normal,New] | 14:36 |
| didrocks | Community theme announcement, both on a blog post and on the hub: https://didrocks.fr/2017/11/09/welcome-to-the-ubuntu-bionic-age-a-new-ubuntu-default-theme-call-for-participation/ | 14:36 |
| didrocks | * More discussions on the hub and french forum | 14:36 |
| didrocks | . | 14:36 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 14:36 |
| willcooke | #topic jbicha | 14:36 |
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| willcooke | guess jbicha isnt around today | 14:38 |
| willcooke | #topic jackpot51 | 14:38 |
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| willcooke | damn it, sorry jackpot51 | 14:38 |
| willcooke | #topic jamesh | 14:38 |
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| willcooke | jamesh, please let me have your update by email | 14:38 |
| willcooke | and set yourself a reminder to send it last thing on a Tuesday | 14:38 |
| seb128 | that's a recurrent issue :/ | 14:38 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:38 |
| willcooke | #topic jibel | 14:39 |
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| willcooke | or heber | 14:39 |
| jibel | - Deployed installer tests for Bionic. | 14:39 |
| jibel | - Upgrade tests from xenial to bionic are passing, adding more tests. | 14:39 |
| jibel | - Review of gnome-software in desktop PPA in preparation of the SRU to artful. | 14:39 |
| jibel | - Maintenance of the testing infrastructure / Re-organize / clean-up jenkins jobs. | 14:39 |
| jibel | - Added "launch a snap" tests in ubuntu-system-tests. | 14:39 |
| jibel | ... | 14:39 |
| willcooke | thanks jibel | 14:40 |
| willcooke | good stuff | 14:40 |
| willcooke | #topic kenvandine | 14:40 |
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| kenvandine | * Updated some of the GNOME snaps to the latest stable release | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | * More work on the contacts-service and calendar-service interfaces, namely creating a simple test snap that can be used for testing. | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | * Continued updating the gnome-contacts and gnome-calendar strict snaps for local testing | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | * gnome-calculator snapcraft.yaml accepted upstream. I setup an automated snap build from master to publish to the edge channel and switched the stable series to publish to the candidate channel. I think this is the model we'll use for the rest of the GNOME snaps as well. | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | https://imgur.com/a/85Hta | 14:40 |
| willcooke | congrats on the upstreaming, and thanks GNOME Calculator devs | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | gnome-calculator 3.27.2 (master) built in the edge channel :) | 14:41 |
| willcooke | nice | 14:41 |
| seb128 | great | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | we'll keep edge bleeding | 14:41 |
| Laney | nice | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | never promote to stable | 14:41 |
| Laney | how does the automated build work? | 14:41 |
| Laney | git mirror in launchpad? | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | git mirror | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | yup | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | simple | 14:42 |
| Laney | like me | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | yup! | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | that's it for me | 14:42 |
| Laney | :(((((((((((((((((((((( | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | :)))))))))))))))))) | 14:42 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 14:42 |
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| Laney | o | 14:42 |
| Laney | • Debugged & fixed a britney crash in the email sending policy | 14:43 |
| Laney | ∘ and a separate logic error when deciding who to email when packages are promoted from universe to main while in proposed | 14:43 |
| Laney | • Otherwise, continuation week™ | 14:43 |
| Laney | • Worked a lot more on the kernel hang bug in lcy01 with the kernel team | 14:43 |
| Laney | • Feedback on in-progress gnome-software PRs, required some refactoring | 14:43 |
| Laney | ∘ Richard wants some larger restructuring on the shell extensions plugin to support my work there, not sure how much time I should spend on that | 14:43 |
| Laney | • snap seeding - germinate now parses snaps in seeds and outputs them to a foo.snap file, need to fix up some small issues and then submit that to get review | 14:43 |
| Laney | 🤷 | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | yay | 14:43 |
| willcooke | nice one, thanks Laney | 14:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, those PRs are on gitlab? | 14:43 |
| willcooke | lets talk about the g-s stuff later | 14:43 |
| seb128 | I tried to have a look the other week but couldn't find them | 14:44 |
| Laney | yes sir | 14:44 |
| seb128 | k | 14:44 |
| Laney | i think it's private or something | 14:44 |
| seb128 | weird :-/ | 14:44 |
| Laney | you can ask to get added | 14:44 |
| seb128 | "open source" people? ;) | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | lol | 14:44 |
| Laney | well I think that it's because it is a mirror only to allow PRs and it'd be confusing to have it there while git.g.o is still the canonical source | 14:44 |
| Laney | they have that with the github mirrors already | 14:44 |
| seb128 | anyway not the place/time for that discussion I guess | 14:44 |
| willcooke | nod, lets move on | 14:45 |
| Laney | I can push my branches to gnome git if you want to see them | 14:45 |
| seb128 | no it's fine, I just find it weird to keep things behind closed door for GNOME | 14:45 |
| Laney | ya | 14:45 |
| Laney | there was some reason they couldn't just move over to gitlab completely | 14:45 |
| Laney | forgot what it was though | 14:45 |
| Laney | ENDS | 14:46 |
| willcooke | #topic oSoMoN | 14:46 |
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| oSoMoN | hey | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | • chromium | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ updated chromium dev to 64.0.3253.3 then 64.0.3260.2, updated snap and published to edge channel | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ updated chromium beta to 63.0.3239.40, and updated snap in the beta channel | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ updated chromium stable to 62.0.3202.89, now published in -security and -updates for all supported series (thanks Chris), and updated snap in stable channel (with a short staging period in the candidate channel) | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ currently updating chromium stable to 62.0.3202.94 | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ investigated bug #1714244 and lowered its importance | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1714244 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] apparmor denials on /etc/chromium-browser/policies/" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714244 | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ fixed bug #1652110 in PPA tracking the beta channel, will reach users with the next major update (63), in about 3 weeks from now | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1652110 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium 55+ doesn't support Widevine library" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652110 | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ got my PPU application endorsed, added myself to the next DMB meeting's agenda (next Monday) for review | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | • libreoffice | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ build failure in bionic due to transition to ICU 60 (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113705), verified that disabling that one failing unit test makes the build succeed, poked upstream and waiting to see if they fix it soon before going with the disabled test | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 113705 in framework "linebreak unit test failure when building against libicu 60.1" [Normal,Assigned] | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ SRU of 5.4.2 to artful accepted by SRU team, but need to re-upload with a tweaked version number | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | • other | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ tested tracker and wrote my experience on the hub | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ added my feedback to the thread about guest session | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | ● | 14:46 |
| willcooke | excellent, thanks oSoMoN | 14:46 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, sorry about the version number thing for the SRU | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I should have hinted to change it before upload | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | no worries, that's my mistake | 14:47 |
| seb128 | though technically the one they rejected is not used so they could have accepted it | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | hopefully I learn from it | 14:47 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:47 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 14:48 |
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| seb128 | • had 2 vac days | 14:48 |
| seb128 | • most of the rest of the week spent reviewing the 17.10 feedback and recent bugs reports still (activity is slowing down on that front now) | 14:48 |
| seb128 | • reviewed work for next cycle/trello | 14:48 |
| seb128 | </week> | 14:48 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 14:48 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 14:48 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop team weekly meeting - 2017-11-14 | Current topic: tkamppeter | ||
| tkamppeter | - cups/ups-filters snap: Continued work on creating the snap. Without restrictions it works perfectly now, on a Ubuntu Desktop classic system (Bionic) in parallel to the system's CUPS and cups-browsed (system on port 631 and snap on port 10631). Both CUPS instances are sharing their printers to the other. Printing (with filters) works. PDF interpreter is Poppler, as there are some features of cups-filters only working with Poppler. | 14:49 |
| tkamppeter | - cups/ups-filters snap: Started working on confinement. Asked for help and discussed on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapping-cups-printing-stack-avahi-support-system-users-groups/1502. Planned is a snap with strict confinement to work on both Classic and Core and also auto-detect whether there is already a system CUPS to automatically decide whether the snap's CUPS should run on port 631 or 10631. This snap should then serve both as the printi | 14:49 |
| tkamppeter | ng stack for core and as a platform for snapped drivers on both Core and Classic. | 14:49 |
| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Added more patches for braille embossing. | 14:49 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 14:49 |
| willcooke | Good work on the snap tkamppeter | 14:49 |
| seb128 | +1 | 14:49 |
| Laney | man I've love to see one of those braille things | 14:49 |
| willcooke | I bet they make an excellent noise | 14:50 |
| willcooke | lots of clacking | 14:50 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 14:50 |
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| willcooke | - Helped Fedora diagnose snap installs not working in F27 | 14:50 |
| willcooke | - Updated snapd REST API documentation | 14:50 |
| willcooke | - Implement new snapd APIs in snapd-glib | 14:50 |
| willcooke | - Investigate work required for guest sessions in 18.04, asked on Community hub for feedback on usefulness. | 14:50 |
| willcooke | - snapd-glib 1.25, 1.26 releases | 14:50 |
| willcooke | - simple-scan 3.27.2 release | 14:50 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, they are in the cups-filters package, so simply connect an embosser to Ubuntu. You can even emboss photos so that blinds can see/feel them. | 14:50 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 14:51 |
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| willcooke | Anyone got anything else? | 14:51 |
| Laney | simply buy this 10k piece of hardware! | 14:51 |
| tkamppeter | Laney but do not expect 50 MPixel for that. | 14:51 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:51 |
| seb128 | gnome-software | 14:51 |
| seb128 | there was a SRU mentioned earlier? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | but it's not in Robert's summary | 14:51 |
| seb128 | and launchpad bugs haven't been updated for one yet | 14:51 |
| seb128 | does anyone know if we plan to do one and when? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | there is a stack of issues which have available fixes | 14:52 |
| Laney | he's waiting for QA to sign off | 14:52 |
| seb128 | is that the one in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-software/+packages ? | 14:52 |
| jibel | seb128, Robert plan to do the SRU with the content of the PPA once it's reviewed | 14:52 |
| jibel | which I finished today | 14:52 |
| seb128 | k, so not 3.26.2 as Laney suggested? | 14:52 |
| jibel | the ppa is ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software | 14:53 |
| seb128 | k | 14:53 |
| seb128 | well I guess .2 can be another round later | 14:53 |
| seb128 | thanks guys | 14:53 |
| Laney | that could be more visible | 14:53 |
| jibel | yeah, the idea is to release what is already fixed and do another one afterwards | 14:53 |
| seb128 | (the bugs could be SRU compliant already with an hint that there is a ppa) | 14:53 |
| Laney | how does he request that you test it? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | but that's feedback for Robert | 14:53 |
| jibel | Laney, by email | 14:54 |
| seb128 | right, I was going to say, seems suboptimal that only QA was asked to test | 14:54 |
| Laney | could there be a card or something? | 14:54 |
| jibel | he should just do the SRU and ask for a review once it's in the queue | 14:54 |
| Laney | fair enough, maybe you can give that feedback | 14:55 |
| Trevinho | Oh, I wasn't pinged... | 14:55 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho :) | 14:55 |
| Trevinho | not really much to report about this week though, but I had some for the one I was leaving | 14:55 |
| willcooke | sorry Trevinho, I figured your feedback was "on holiday" | 14:55 |
| Laney | awkward... | 14:55 |
| Laney | :D | 14:56 |
| seb128 | still time to fix it | 14:56 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 14:56 |
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| willcooke | "on holiday" | 14:56 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:56 |
| willcooke | anything you want to add Trevinho? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | he's trolling us :p | 14:57 |
| didrocks | clearly :p | 14:57 |
| willcooke | PUT DOWN THE COCKTAIL | 14:57 |
| willcooke | meh, he's gone swimming I think. | 14:58 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:58 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 14:58 |
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| seb128 | yeah, let's wrap then? | 14:58 |
| willcooke | Anyone got anything else | 14:58 |
| seb128 | I don't | 14:58 |
| willcooke | #endmeting | 14:59 |
| willcooke | #endmeteing | 14:59 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Nov 14 14:59:20 2017 UTC. | 14:59 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-11-14-14.31.moin.txt | 14:59 |
| seb128 | #tryagain | 14:59 |
| willcooke | ffs | 14:59 |
| willcooke | thanks all | 14:59 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 14:59 |
| willcooke | I need a bigger font, or better glasses | 14:59 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 14:59 |
| didrocks | question to native speakers (Laney, willcooke?): how do you name when you are above maximum level (like sound > 100%), "Override" has been rejected, I want to use it for things like SetFooLeve, FooColor and such… | 14:59 |
| * willcooke ponders | 15:01 | |
| Laney | didrocks: sorry, don't understand the context you want to use it in | 15:01 |
| jibel | didrocks, "up to eleven" ;) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | Laney: for volume above 100%, how do you name that, the zone between 100% and the max_max_level ? | 15:01 |
| oSoMoN | LOUDER | 15:01 |
| didrocks | well, some are on a slider | 15:01 |
| didrocks | on a generic bar | 15:01 |
| Laney | but you need to use it in variable names or something? | 15:01 |
| didrocks | (so not only for volume) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | yes | 15:01 |
| didrocks | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/shell/volume-overdrive-status.png | 15:02 |
| didrocks | like here | 15:02 |
| didrocks | the "red zone" :) | 15:02 |
| didrocks | overdrive? :p | 15:02 |
| Laney | meh | 15:02 |
| Laney | maybe? | 15:03 |
| Laney | is this word ever used in the UI? | 15:03 |
| didrocks | no, only code | 15:03 |
| didrocks | well, it's in the theme | 15:03 |
| didrocks | so, OverdriveColor? | 15:03 |
| didrocks | overdrive-separator-width | 15:04 |
| didrocks | and such… | 15:04 |
| didrocks | sound decent for you? | 15:04 |
| Laney | meh maybe | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | overmax? | 15:04 |
| Laney | it's not very clear what it is | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | over_max ? | 15:04 |
| Laney | does it have to be short? volume-over-100 ... | 15:04 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: but over-max < max_level | 15:04 |
| didrocks | Laney: no, but it's not volume specific | 15:04 |
| didrocks | it's a generic bar | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, then no | 15:04 |
| didrocks | which can have that red zone | 15:04 |
| jibel | volume boost? | 15:04 |
| Laney | haha | 15:05 |
| Laney | this is a weird element | 15:05 |
| Trevinho | willcooke, seb128: sorry, black out here... And neither 4g worked for a bit.... I'll paste things later, once net is back | 15:05 |
| didrocks | I think let's go for overdrive, it seems the less confusing to you? | 15:05 |
| Laney | just call it the overdrive area and document what it is | 15:05 |
| didrocks | sounds good! thanks guys :) | 15:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, yeah yeah yeah | 15:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no problem :) | 15:06 |
| Trevinho | seb128: and... Back and out again. Uff. | 15:09 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, for how long are you staying in that place? ;) | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | seb128: last week, but it used to be stable before... Just all the condo went out. And it's sunny, weird | 15:11 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ok, don't worry too much about it, I'm sure you have things you can work on even without a stable internet right? ;) | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | Anyway back again, let's see how long it lasts now... Then moving to the coworking.... But no pool or cocktail time. I don't like get wet in the "early" morning :-) | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | Ok, so the list was... | 15:13 |
| Trevinho | · Not much to report for this week, just back from holidays and syncing with backlog | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | · Last things done before leaving (and not reported in the subsequent meeting) were: | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | · Debugged and fixed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788931 | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | (needs cleanup I'm doing now) | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | · Sent fractional scaling branch for review after fixing some missing parts | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | and scaling properly loaded images | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765011) | 15:14 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788931 in general "Crashes when setting the label of invalid StLabel objects" [Critical,Reopened] | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | · Fixed crash in the shadow pipeline codepath | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788908 | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | · Snapped clangd (you can get your smart completion in vim/emacs/$EDITOR with it) | 15:14 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 765011 in wayland "support fractional scaling" [Normal,Assigned] | 15:14 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 788908 in st "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in clutter_actor_get_allocation_box (from _st_create_shadow_pipeline_from_actor)" [Normal,New] | 15:14 |
| Trevinho | and maybe more that I don't remember :) | 15:14 |
| seb128 | thanks Trevinho | 15:17 |
| seb128 | brb, changing location | 15:17 |
| jbicha | oops, time change again | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:20 |
| Laney | gcal gets it right for me | 15:22 |
| Laney | (H) | 15:23 |
| Laney | anyone on bionic? | 15:24 |
| jibel | i am | 15:25 |
| Laney | ah yeah, I found a jibel bug | 15:25 |
| Laney | never mind | 15:25 |
| jbicha | bionic soon, I have some more artful SRUs to help verify first | 15:29 |
| Laney | just discovered gnome-shell-calendar-service is crashing over and over | 15:31 |
| Laney | but jibel reported it, hero | 15:32 |
| Laney | bug #1731910 | 15:32 |
| ubot5 | bug 1731910 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell-calendar-server assert failure: *** Error in `/usr/lib/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-calendar-server': free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000559ef762f960 ***" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731910 | 15:32 |
| jbicha | Laney: oh, I guess I need to upload evolution-data-server 3.26.2.1 to fix that | 15:36 |
| Laney | ya, it's gnome bug #789677 | 15:39 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 789677 in Calendar "[ECalClient] Incorrect free call in process_detached_instances()" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789677 | 15:39 |
| jbicha | done, but it will be blocked on icu transition https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/3.26.2.1-1ubuntu1 | 15:41 |
| Laney | cheers | 15:42 |
| Laney | looks like that entangles haskell | 15:45 |
| Laney | le fail | 15:45 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, new LO SRU with updated version number available at https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-5.4.2/artful2/ | 15:58 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, 'ci | 15:58 |
| === hggdh is now known as auslaender | ||
| Trevinho | Laney: hey, can you give a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/headerbar-maximized-destructive-suggested-actions/+merge/332619 it's the only one I'm missing to release the silo... | 17:36 |
| Trevinho | which at this point I should move to bionic | 17:36 |
| Laney | Trevinho: oh yeah, ok | 17:40 |
| Laney | Trevinho: a bigger screenshot would have been nicer :P | 17:41 |
| === auslaender is now known as itaorna | ||
| Laney | approved, and goodnight! | 18:04 |
| jbicha | jackpot51: could you or dmj look into verifying the proposed SRU for LP: #1724024? | 18:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1724024 in mutter (Ubuntu Artful) "can't set usable scale for hidpi internal display if when using external display less than 1600x1200" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724024 | 18:08 |
| jbicha | good morning | 18:09 |
| willcooke | night all | 19:48 |
| === itaorna is now known as hggdh | ||
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