[00:00] <Osmodivs> adrian_1908, both HDD are UEFI (Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10) but I can't get to the GRUB menu when I press Shift key...
[00:01] <Osmodivs> In the BIOS I have the ubuntu HDD to bbot first
[00:01] <Osmodivs> boot
[00:01] <adrian_1908> Hmm, no idea then. You'd indeed want to select the HDD via the BIOS menu and that should be it normally.
[00:01] <Bashing-om> Osmodivs: EFI it is the escap[e key grub looks for . Spam it .. only a 3 second window of oportunity .
[00:02] <adrian_1908> My food is done, good luck.
[00:02] <Osmodivs> Bashing-om, I thought it was the shift key, Im gonna try the escape key then, thx.
[00:03] <Bashing-om> Osmodivs: shift for MBR ( legacy ) .
[00:23] <half-potato> is this the right place to get help with trackpad kernel issues?
[00:23] <nostrora> Hi i've just installed kubernetes-core with conjure-up. install is finished correctly and installed give me ip. but i can't access from another computer of my lan network. how can i debug this ?
[00:27] <half-potato> okay so this place is really active
[00:31] <Bashing-om> half-potato: right place, State the issue and await one who can advise .
[00:39] <varesa> Hi
[00:40] <varesa> Where can I find older kernel releases for 16.04?
[00:41] <leftyfb> varesa: why?
[00:42] <half-potato> so my trackpad is being detected as a mouse yet it still has multitouch capabilities. I've listened to the events using sudo libinput-debug-events --device=/dev/input/event18 and it seems like something in the kernel is handling my trackpad because it only outputs preprocessed outputs like buttons being pressed, scrolling, and mouse movement
[00:42] <varesa> leftyfb: I have to setup a virtual machine that matches exactly a running production server
[00:42] <half-potato> as a result I can't configure my trackpad to disable tap to click because libinput isn't handling whether tap to click is enabled. It seems like the input module is
[00:43] <half-potato> my laptop is an hp elitebook x360 g2
[00:44] <varesa> I'm trying to install 4.4.0-72-generic
[00:45] <varesa> oh I see, I think I just had the wrong syntax for apt-get...
[00:45] <half-potato> i2c_hid i2c-ALP0016:00: error in i2c_hid_init_report size:137 / ret_size:2 [   14.957380] input: ALP0016:00 044E:1215 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.1/i2c_designware.1/i2c-7/i2c-ALP0016:00/0018:044E:1215.0002/input/input26 [   14.957520] hid-generic 0018:044E:1215.0002: input,hidraw1: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ALP0016:00 044E:1215] on i2c-ALP0016:00
[00:46] <half-potato> damn it's not formatted but that is where my trackpad is being loaded
[00:46] <varesa> rather, not running apt-get update first and using the wrong syntax after update :'D
[01:28] <Hastouki> hey guys, can someone take a look at this powertop summary: https://pastebin.com/rb8JcjUG
[01:28] <Hastouki> my macbook-pro runs at aruond 60 degrees
[01:29] <Hastouki> on a fresh reboot, the hrtimer_wakeup process or whatever jumps between 900-6000??
[01:29] <bazhang> Hastouki, how is that connected to the temperature
[01:30] <Hastouki> well, i see Events/s
[01:34] <Hastouki> my girlfriend's laptop keeps that one around 100 events/s
[01:35] <Hastouki> mine is at least 1000/s
[01:45] <saganbyte> Hello there, i was trying to get my wireless hardware toggle to work and I 1) reset the BIOS setting by pressing F9 and then F10 2) Update the kernel selection 3) Updated my nvidia settings by clicking around
[01:45] <marcisb> sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/bin What does -p flag means?
[01:45] <saganbyte> The result is, I m stuck with a 640x480 display
[01:46] <saganbyte> Is there something I can do to get my back my original resolution? xrandr --verbose only displays 640x480 too
[01:46] <saganbyte> marcisb: it means create any intemediary directory if it doesnt exist
[01:46] <leftyfb> marcisb: it means create the parent directories if they don't exist. You can use "man mkdir" to read more detail
[01:46] <leftyfb> marcisb: why are you meaking that directory?
[01:46] <drowze> @marcisb -p tells mkdir to create all the dirs in the path if needed (and do not raise an error if any does not exist)
[01:48] <t0no6a> marcisb :lookout /usr/local/bin already exist , be careful
[01:50] <kostkon> saganbyte, open your nvidia settings and try changing it from there
[01:52] <saganbyte> kostkon: is there a command to open nvidia settings? Earlier i had messed within the Additional Drivers
[01:53] <kostkon> saganbyte, try typing "nvidia" and hitting tab
[01:55] <saganbyte> kostkon: the only thing tab completion gave me was nvidia-detector. The output of that was `non`
[01:55] <saganbyte> `none`
[01:56] <half-potato> I've isolated the problem it seems that alps.c does not have an entry for recognizing my trackpad
[01:56] <kostkon> saganbyte, what about "nv" and then tab
[01:56] <saganbyte> kostkon: nvidia-detector and nvm_prompt_info
[01:58] <saganbyte> In the additional drivers window I see a bunch of Nvidia binary and legacy drivers but it seems to be stuck to one particular one.. Nouveau display driver from xserver-xord-video..
[01:58] <saganbyte> kostkon:
[01:58] <kostkon> saganbyte, right you are using nouveau then
[01:59] <saganbyte> kostkon: if i try changing it, it sticks to nouveau.. i ll try restarting
[01:59] <kostkon> saganbyte, the open source driver not the one from nvidia
[01:59] <kostkon> saganbyte, ok
[02:00] <saganbyte> kostkon: do you think i need to change anythig in the grub menu?
[02:00] <saganbyte> kostkon: or the bios
[02:00] <kostkon> saganbyte, i guess no
[02:25] <Affabulation> Whats a better bistro ubuntu or high sierra
[02:25] <Affabulation> distro*
[02:25] <Sveta> it depends on your use-case
[02:26] <Vysty> What's the best burning program to use to burn a playable video DVD with an .mp4 file?
[02:27] <Vysty> Brasero and K3B are coughing up attitude.
[02:27] <Affabulation> Not brasero
[02:27] <Vysty> Using 16.04
[02:27] <Affabulation> terminal is the bestr
[02:28] <Vysty> Affabulation: Can you walk me through burning a DVD using the terminal?
[02:28] <Affabulation> why not use a usb though
[02:29] <Vysty> We're going to have that, too.
[02:29] <Affabulation> Cant u just use the usb lol
[02:29] <Vysty> Going to a wedding in Japan and they've requested that we burn a DVD of the video. I guess in Japan no one can think creatively and you gotta use what they say.
[02:30] <Vysty> What I said: "They can just download it off my google drive and play it with VLC."
[02:30] <Vysty> My wife: "You do not understand how Japan works."
[02:30] <Vysty> Me: "Fuck them. I'll do it if they're that useless."
[02:30] <Vysty> My wife: "Nope. You do not understand how Japan works."
[02:31] <Vysty> So I need a playable DVD.
[02:31] <Affabulation> Uh Japan is more advance than other countries lol im sure
[02:31] <Affabulation> thy have better options
[02:31] <Affabulation> does Japan use ntfc or pal lol
[02:31] <Vysty> My Japanese wife just explained to me today that many Japanese still don't know how to use computers.
[02:31] <Vysty> Not quite as advanced as you think.
[02:31] <Vysty> Regardless, it doesn't matter: I need a playable DVD.
[02:31] <Affabulation> hm
[02:31] <Affabulation> It does matter
[02:32] <Affabulation> ntsc and pal are default depending on the region and if the player can decode it
[02:32] <Vysty> I'll just burn one of each.
[02:34] <Vysty> Can you walk me through burning a DVD in the terminal?
[02:34] <Affabulation> dd if=/path/image.iso of=/dev/cdrom1
[02:35] <Vysty> File is an .mp4
[02:37] <Affabulation> https://docs.salixos.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_video_DVD_from_the_command_line
[02:44] <mmazing> i'm trying to run boot-repair, and it's freezing on "unhide boot menu" step indefinitely
[02:44] <mmazing> logs say "no sda5/boot/efi/efi found" or something similar
[02:44] <mmazing> any ideas?
[02:46] <Affabulation> Just use a live cd boot. Into it
[02:46] <Affabulation> Mount the boot partition and install it again
[02:46] <Affabulation> grub that is
[02:46] <mmazing> grub-install ?
[02:47] <Affabulation> I mean I personally dont use grub but yea
[02:47] <mmazing> what do you use?
[02:47] <Affabulation> efi stub lol
[02:47] <Jordan_U> mmazing: What is the original problem you're trying to solve?
[02:48] <mmazing> i had a 1gb regular hard drive on my laptop, installed a 500gb SSD and installed windows 10, and then moved my existing ubuntu partition over after resizing
[02:49] <Affabulation> LOl
[02:49] <Affabulation> No wonder
[02:49] <mmazing> it's EFI boot
[02:49] <mmazing> yes, people still need to occasionally use windows unfortunately
[02:49] <Affabulation> you do realize windows probably override the efi partition
[02:49] <mmazing> i do not realize that
[02:49] <mmazing> i've had it working in the past
[02:50] <Affabulation> In the past you probably did not have a efi system I assume
[02:50] <mmazing> it's the same laptop, it was using EFI to boot into windows boot manager or ubuntu
[02:50] <Cosmosnaut> anybody experience really slow steam downloads? havent gotten over 1 mb/s...
[02:50] <Jordan_U> mmazing: Did you copy over the EFI System Partition that Ubuntu had prepared?
[02:50] <mmazing> i'
[02:51] <Cosmosnaut> new to ubunto, have tried dnsmasq
[02:51] <mmazing> i'm not sure, ill plug that drive back in and check it out
[02:51] <Affabulation> Bruh the easiest solution is boot from ubuntu live mount everything add refined ppa
[02:51] <Affabulation> and boom easy peasy
[02:56] <Cosmosnaut> or best study material on terminal, apt?
[02:56] <t0no6a> Cosmonaut ; ?
[02:57] <Cosmosnaut> with allergies
[02:59] <mmazing> okie dokie ... copied over the old EFI partition, will run boot-repair now and see if it still pukes
[02:59] <mmazing> ^^ Jordan_U
[03:02] <Jordan_U> mmazing: Wait. I don't recommend boot repair. Also, to be clear, I hope you don't now have two EFI System Partitions.
[03:02] <mmazing> i erased the one that windows created and copied the old one over it
[03:03] <mmazing> have not run boot-repair yet
[03:04] <Jordan_U> mmazing: How do you expect Windows to boot then?
[03:04] <mmazing> well, i was hoping that boot-repair would fix that, has before :\
[03:04] <Jordan_U> mmazing: I don't know if boot-repair can do that.
[03:04] <Affabulation> lololol
[03:04] <Affabulation> LOL
[03:05] <Affabulation> ahahah
[03:05] <Jordan_U> mmazing: I think you're depending too much on boot repair doing things rather than trying to understand things yourself.
[03:05] <mmazing> probably so, i haven't ever had a problem with it before, however
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Affabulation: That's the opposite of helpful. Please think more carefully about your future posts.
[03:06] <mmazing> i've never seen it freeze up
[03:06] <Affabulation> jordan I gave him the best solution he ignored it
[03:07] <Jordan_U> Affabulation: I don't personally agree that installing rEFInd and hoping that it automagically fixes things without understanding is a good idea either.
[03:08] <Affabulation> No it wont magically fix anything but it will make it easier to detect and select each boot since he wants a magic automatic fix
[03:08] <mmazing> i think i might just blow away all the windows stuff, fix the ubuntu boot, and then leave unallocated space to install windows into again
[03:08] <Jordan_U> mmazing: I don't know how to get Windows booting again from having deleted its bootloader on UEFI. ##windows might be able to help you with that.
[03:08] <mmazing> does that sound feasible?
[03:09] <fluvvell> Is anybody good at top menu Ubuntu gconf / unity adustments ? I have two screens, different resolution and my left menu encroaches the right
[03:09] <Jordan_U> mmazing: You'll need to "fix" the Ubuntu bootloader twice, as Windows will make its bootloader the default when you install it (though Ubuntu will still be an option in your boot firmware, if you know how to get to the boot selection menu).
[03:10] <mmazing> how would you have gone about this in the first place? EFI always throws me for a loop
[03:13] <Affabulation> lol the best option for you is to start anew and install windows first and then linux
[03:14] <mmazing> i would prefer to use my existing linux partition if possible
[03:14] <Jordan_U> mmazing: I'm not exactly sure what your situation was, but I think I would have moved the Ubuntu partition to the ssd from a LiveUSB, then (still from the LiveUSB) mounted the Ubuntu partition to /mnt/, mounted the EFI System Partition on the SSD to /mnt/boot/efi/ then run "sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/".
[03:15] <Jordan_U> mmazing: Unfortunately I need to leave now.
[03:15] <mmazing> thanks, im essentially still at that step now, so i will try that
[03:16] <t0no6a> mmazing : dude, seriously, blow away everything then install windshit and then Ubuntu/debian/gentoo/minix whatever you want
[03:16] <ohlolz> which dual-band usb Wifi adapter works well and right off the bat with ubuntu 17.10?
[03:17] <ohlolz> like i don't need to install anything
[03:17] <mmazing> t0no6a, every time i try and transfer stuff from an old linux install, it always never quite works
[03:17] <marcisb> What does init.d directory into etc is?
[03:19] <ohlolz> can someone help me?
[03:19] <mmazing> ohlolz, microcenter sells a super cheap usb one that has worked every time for me
[03:20] <Affabulation> sudo rm -rf /
[03:20] <mmazing> not sure if it is dual band though
[03:20] <Affabulation> Jk though
[03:20] <Affabulation> dont do it
[03:20] <ohlolz> mmazing: if its super cheap might not be dual-band
[03:20] <sdfgsdfg> hello hi, how do I get different workspaces with different desktops/icons ?
[03:21] <sdfgsdfg> on unity
[03:21] <ohlolz> doesn't what Affabulation did deserves a ban or kick?
[03:21] <sdfgsdfg> yes it does
[03:21] <Affabulation> Why so
[03:21] <Affabulation> i said was a joke.
[03:21] <sdfgsdfg> kanye said the same
[03:21] <t0no6a> ohlolz : any of tp-link works out of the box ... at least for me
[03:21] <ohlolz> coz newbies
[03:21] <Affabulation> I said it asap jk dont do it
[03:21] <Affabulation> so no?
[03:21] <mmazing> apart from being extremely unpleasant to communicate with, yeah, putting commands into chat that destroy your computer should be frowned upon
[03:22] <sdfgsdfg> kanye apologised after the incident too saying it was a joke
[03:22] <sdfgsdfg> and he didnt destroy noobs' computers
[03:22] <sdfgsdfg> ban him omg
[03:22] <ohlolz> t0no6a: tplink AC600 didnt work right out of the box
[03:22] <sdfgsdfg> hi, how do I get different workspaces with different desktops/icons ?
[03:22] <mmazing> bah, it's not dual band, i don't think - http://www.microcenter.com/product/486399/W311M_150Mbps_Wireless_N_USB_20_Adapter
[03:22] <sdfgsdfg> I mean multiple workspaces with different desktops/icons ?
[03:22] <mmazing> but works right out of the box :D
[03:23] <ohlolz> mmazing: OH MY i just read 150Mbps
[03:23] <sdfgsdfg> so its not possible ?
[03:23] <ohlolz> vade retro
[03:23] <sdfgsdfg> ok
[03:23] <Affabulation> do what you will ban me if you must it is what it is
[03:23] <journeytothecent> is webgl available on powerpc
[03:23] <mmazing> haha, yeah, maybe a bit too cheap
[03:23] <journeytothecent> i dont see it in the repo
[03:23] <sdfgsdfg> journeytothecent: no
[03:23] <journeytothecent> damnit, why not
[03:23] <sdfgsdfg> it wont ever be supported
[03:23] <t0no6a> ohlolz : thats weird dude, to me tp-link usb dongles always works fine
[03:23] <ohlolz> bazhang: pope bazhang
[03:23] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfare you troling me
[03:24] <sdfgsdfg> project doesnt have enough money
[03:24] <ohlolz> bazhang: do u remember me
[03:24] <mmazing> OH, i got one recently at defcon that will probably be up to the task ohlolz
[03:24] <mmazing> one sec
[03:24] <sdfgsdfg> hi, how do I get multiple workspaces with different desktops/icons ?
[03:24] <ohlolz> t0no6a: do u have installed 17.10?
[03:24] <sdfgsdfg> anyone ?
[03:24] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: you mean webgl is a dead project?
[03:24] <sdfgsdfg> yes
[03:24] <journeytothecent> kk thx
[03:25] <sdfgsdfg> anybofy know how I can get different workspaces with different desktops/icons ?
[03:25] <ohlolz> i've never used in my life different workspaces sdfgsdfg
[03:25] <sdfgsdfg> I want multiple desktops
[03:26] <sdfgsdfg> I want better organisation and a higher quality of life
[03:26] <t0no6a> ohlolz : yes
[03:26] <ohlolz> is there a discord server for ubuntu?
[03:26] <ohlolz> fam?
[03:26] <ohlolz> XD
[03:26] <journeytothecent> voix shat ?
[03:27] <ohlolz> lol
[03:27] <ohlolz> lol journeytothecent
[03:27] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: i recommend dwm
[03:27] <journeytothecent> your life will be simplified greatly
[03:27] <journeytothecent> womens will swoon
[03:27] <sdfgsdfg> a tiling wm ?
[03:27] <t0no6a> sdfgsdfg : I want more sex,more money and more beer.....life sucks
[03:27] <sdfgsdfg> you got to be joking
[03:27] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: yes but so much more than just tiling
[03:28] <sdfgsdfg> you want me to tile my windows now ?
[03:28] <sdfgsdfg> youre trolling
[03:28] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: just one man's opinion. not trolling brother
[03:28] <journeytothecent> dwm is the best wm on gots creen earsh
[03:28] <sdfgsdfg> ok
[03:28] <mmazing> ohlolz - not certain that this is dual band but - https://hakshop.com/collections/wireless-gear/products/ralink-rt3070-usb-wifi-adapter works out of the box
[03:29] <sdfgsdfg> maybe compiz made me senseless over the years
[03:29] <t0no6a> ralink NEVERworks well
[03:29] <sdfgsdfg> lets try, thanks journeytothecent
[03:29] <mmazing> t0no6a, worked well for my install with no drivers
[03:29] <sdfgsdfg> how do you explore your files journeytothecent
[03:30] <journeytothecent> sdf with lxterminal
[03:30] <arooni> hey team; i have ubuntu 16.04; but i'd like to install this package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/tasksh ;; how can i do that without messing up every other package?
[03:30] <journeytothecent> cd, pwd, file, ls, find, etceteras
[03:30] <sdfgsdfg> no midnightcommander ? lol
[03:30] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: nah i never got into it bro lol
[03:31] <sdfgsdfg> there's ranger made in python that one was really cool
[03:31] <journeytothecent> okay guys. looks like this ppc maschine is better off living life as something not as a desktop
[03:31] <journeytothecent> sdfgsdfg: i will totoally look at ranger
[03:31] <journeytothecent> thx brother. i've seen you around, i trust i shall again
[03:32] <journeytothecent> im latemus
[03:32] <journeytothecent> late
[03:32] <sdfgsdfg> laterz
[03:46] <Jordan_U> ohlolz: Note that if you're in an area with a lot of wireless networks close together, like an appartment complex, you'll really want a wireless card (and router/ap) that supports 5Ghz channels.
[04:10] <mmazing> Jordan_U, got ubuntu back by manually installing grub into EFI partition
[04:12] <mmazing> annnnd much faster with new SSD :D
[04:12] <mmazing> going to deal with windows later
[04:22] <rud0lf> is there a way to do opposite to "light-locker-command --lock" ?
[04:22] <JoeRW> Would anyone happen to know why I'm not able to load the splash/login page after connecting to my university's Aruba-Master wifi? I'm currently using Ubuntu 17.10.
[04:23] <JoeRW> Also, I've tried using Chrome, Firefox, and Vivaldi with no such luck. I even changed user agents in the Chrome developer tools to no avail.
[04:49] <t0no6a> JoeRW : maybe this help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/disable-network-connectivity-checking-ubuntu-17-10
[05:12] <slimjimflim> hi, i'm out of disk space on my /boot partition. i fixed this before by manually removing some old kernel images but i'm not sure if i did it right. now `sudo apt-get upgrade` appears to upgrade other packages but not my kernel. can anyone help? see https://pastebin.com/UqsH1MCK
[05:13] <slimjimflim> running ubuntu 16.04.3
[05:19] <CodeMouse92__> slimjimflim: What's 'sudo apt-get autoremove' do for you?
[05:34] <ArMedic> These 4 things keep happening every now and then that makes my computer freeze and have to use a hard reset to get it to work again.  Anybody have any idea how to solve this issue....https://pastebin.com/Wdx3KQ24
[05:37] <slimjimflim> well CodeMouse92__ is afk, but it looks like that worked. `sudo apt-get upgrade` says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded."
[05:37] <slimjimflim> lots of grub/image stuff going on in the autoremove command
[05:38]  * slimjimflim bites the bullet and reboots
[05:42] <slimjimflim> whew i'm alive
[05:44] <slimjimflim> looks like i have enough space on /boot for now. idk what i was thinking making that partition so small. CodeMouse__ +1
[06:21] <Nilesh_> i get libgomp.so.1: version `GOMP_4.0' not found ubuntu 14.04 .. which package I need to install?
[06:26] <alkisg> Nilesh_: what's the output of this? dpkg -l '*gomp*' | grep ^ii
[06:26] <aiena> I need some help with cmake on ubutu 16 I get a 'CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:70 (macro_optional_add_subdirectory)' how do I resole this?
[06:26] <alkisg> Do you have any custom libraries that override the system defaults?
[06:28] <Nilesh_> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/AtWk4rM8
[06:30] <alkisg> Nilesh_: seems fine, so you must have some local version that overrides this
[06:54] <Nilesh_> alkisg: no.. i dont have any local version
[06:54] <Nilesh_> alkisg: i thing GOMP_4.0 is the hard requirement
[06:56] <alkisg> Nilesh_: $ strings /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgomp.so.1 | grep GOMP_4
[06:56] <alkisg> GOMP_4.0
[06:56] <alkisg> GOMP_4.0.1
[06:56] <alkisg> It does have that requirement
[06:58] <Nilesh_> alkisg: ok....
[06:59]  * Nilesh_ wondering why this error
[07:01] <Nilesh_> I just tried  strings /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgomp.so.1 | grep GOMP_4 command and is unable to find GOMP_4
[07:01] <Nilesh_> alkisg:
[07:03] <alkisg> Nilesh_: strings /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgomp.so.1 | grep GOMP_[0-9]
[07:03] <alkisg> What's the output of that?
[07:03] <Nilesh_> max i could see is GOMP_3
[07:03] <Nilesh_> alkisg:
[07:03] <alkisg> Hmm yeah then you need a newer version
[07:03] <Nilesh_> how can I get that on ubuntu 14.04
[07:04] <Nilesh_> alkisg:
[07:06] <alkisg> Nilesh_: I'm not sure, I think it will depend on a specific gcc version, so...
[07:06] <Nilesh_> ok
[07:06] <alkisg> 16.04 does support gomp_4 though
[07:06] <alkisg> So if you were planning to upgrade anyway, now it's a good time :)
[07:06] <Nilesh_> yeah ..my app works fine on 16.04
[07:07] <alkisg> If its your own app and you compiled it in 16.04, try compiling it in 14.04
[07:08] <Nilesh_> but then i use some 3rd party libs and that uses GOMP
[07:08] <Nilesh_> so stuck
[07:46] <cool_dude> hey guys i have ubuntu server on gcp and i have file with root access only and to access root i have to run sudo as i connect to user that is created by gcp and i am using filezilla to connect so i can’t run commands so i want to give same access and ownership as root to other user and want root as well
[07:50] <Ben64> cool_dude: "ls -l thefile" also, what is gcp
[07:52] <cool_dude> google cloud platfrom
[07:52] <cool_dude> but i want to give access to all files that have root ownership
[07:53] <ducasse> do you really need that, or do you only need access to a subset of files?
[07:57] <cool_dude> problem is that i installed web panel and too many files have ownership of root so i can’t use edit them using filezilla
[07:57] <cool_dude> as i cannot connect to server as root
[07:59] <TaZeR> root is the root of all problems
[08:13] <slingamn> the desktop and server kernels are the same now, right?
[08:14] <ducasse> yes
[08:16] <slingamn> if you install the server image and then install the desktop packages from apt, are there any significant differences between that and a system installed from the desktop image?
[08:17] <ducasse> slingamn: the server image installs some server-related stuff
[08:18] <slingamn> makes sense
[08:19] <ducasse> you can use the mini.iso or the lubuntu 'alternate' image (just deselect the lubuntu stuff) if you want a more customized desktop install
[08:19] <ducasse> (the mini.iso does not support uefi)
[08:20] <slingamn> but the lubuntu alternate image does?
[08:20] <ducasse> yes
[08:20] <slingamn> nice
[08:21] <slingamn> yeah i used the server image because of the uefi support
[08:21] <slingamn> maybe when bionic comes out, i'll use the lubuntu alternate
[08:21] <slingamn> or maybe mini.iso will have uefi support by then
[08:23] <buttbutter> Is it possible to set a custom scale for menu and title bars under the Displays menu?
[08:23] <buttbutter> So say I want a 1.3 scaling instead of 1.25, etc.
[08:41] <serdar> good morning
[08:41] <serdar> I am trying AppImage the first time and it looks like a cool idea, but is it possible to exchange files within a AppImage package?
[08:44] <ducasse> serdar: i think you'd better ask that in ##linux or somewhere, appimage isn't really a big thing here
[08:45] <serdar> normally they ask the distribution and send me to the channel, but I will try
[08:46] <ducasse> serdar: the distribution doesn't matter in this question
[08:55] <qswz> we can't create wink files on ubuntu right?
[08:56] <socoro> Hi, I have upgraded from Ubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 and the keyboard shortcut for locking my machine CTRL+ALT+L is not working anymore. Do you know what the new one is?
[08:56] <qswz> various versions of Linux (x86 only).
[08:56] <qswz> lol
[08:56] <qswz> well.. damn
[08:56] <qswz> because I need it badly
[08:59] <ducasse> qswz: what are wink files? never heard of them.
[09:02] <qswz> some weird things a company is asking me to priduce
[09:02] <qswz> produce, for making a demo
[09:02] <qswz> probably a video with subtitles
[09:03] <ducasse> doesn't seem like it, from what little i can find.
[09:03] <qswz> from the homepage it looks very old
[09:05] <qswz> I use SimpleScreenRecorder more
[09:06] <qswz> https://obsproject.com/ there's this to
[09:07] <qswz> (this one allow edit)
[09:08] <ducasse> do they support wink files, though?
[09:09] <qswz> probably no, I'll do without
[09:10] <ducasse> i think you'll have to
[09:13] <socoro> Super+L ... found it :)
[09:20] <qswz> k, thx gtg
[09:21] <Thyriaen> The longer i have eclipse open and working in it ( not running any programs - just writing stuff ) the amount of memory builds up until my 16 GB RAM and 4 GB swap are filled at which point my PC will be too slow to be used anymore - what is the issue here ?
[09:21] <Thyriaen> I am using Eclipse 3.8 from the official Ubuntu repositories
[09:22] <Thyriaen> simply having eclipse open has that effect
[09:25] <brainwash> Thyriaen: didn't the linked bug report give you any hints?
[09:25] <brainwash> Thyriaen: at least on how to debug the issue
[09:26] <allure> hey guys.. is there any way to run speedtest on the non-default interface?
[09:27] <brainwash> Thyriaen: just in case I'm linking the report again https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=511732
[09:30] <brainwash> allure: according to the man page there is --source
[09:30] <allure> brainwash: I didn't manage to use --source for some reason
[09:31] <allure> I used it as speedtest-cli --source 192.168.100.1
[09:31] <brainwash> any errors?
[09:31] <allure> no, but it uses my other interface for it :-D
[09:32] <brainwash> look through https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/issues?q=is:issue+source+is:closed
[09:36] <allure> brainwash: yeah, it won't work yet :p
[09:37] <allure> thanks man
[09:37] <brainwash> :)
[10:02] <allure> what do you guys use to automate hard drives health checking?
[10:04] <anddam> hello
[10:05] <anddam> in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ I see a .save file per each .list, is that APT doing or some other program's?
[10:06] <allure> anddam: add-apt-repository does that for adding PPs
[10:06] <allure> anddam: PPAs*
[10:20] <Thyriaen> brainwash well i tried 3.8 first :)
[10:20] <Thyriaen> Brainwash but thanks ill look into that
[10:27] <vitx> Hi, are the repositories of Ubuntu the same for xubuntu ?
[10:28] <Ben64> vitx: yes
[10:28] <vitx> Ben64: for lubuntu too ?
[10:28] <Ben64> yep.
[10:28] <vitx> Ben64: Thanks !
[10:32] <anddam> thanks
[10:35] <mas886> I'm having problems with ubuntu, I have around 2 GB of free RAM, yet it's swapping for 1,5 GB
[10:36] <yossarianuk> hi - I have a macbook retina 2013, which has intel GPU, at present I am having issues with some GL games - like supertuxkart (running ubuntu 17.10)
[10:37] <yossarianuk> Looks like a mesa update fixes this ->https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102354
[10:37] <rory> mas886: swap doesn't work how you are thinking it does
[10:37] <yossarianuk> is that mesa update going to make it into ubuntu ?
[10:37] <rory> mas886: it doesn't work like: fill up available RAM, then write anything extra to swap
[10:37] <yossarianuk> sorry into ubuntu 17.10
[10:37] <rory> mas886: it actually works like: keep a copy of RAM in swap
[10:38] <mas886> rory: The problem comes when my computer is lagging terribly
[10:38] <yossarianuk> real men put their SWAP on their GPU -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/swap_on_video_ram
[10:38] <mas886> Which doesn't happen when it isn't using so much swap
[10:39] <rory> you could try changing the swapiness value from 60 to 10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[10:39] <mas886> Okay, will try this
[10:40] <rory> That used to be a thing around ubuntu 8.xx but idk if if it has much effect now. It's something you can just try "for free" though. maybe it'll have some effect.
[10:42] <akik> rory: swappiness works the same way now than before
[10:42] <yossarianuk> i.e is this coming to ubuntu 17.10 -> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-17.2.5-Released
[10:42] <yossarianuk> or will I have to add a ppa?
[11:05] <c06> hi all
[11:05] <c06> facing issue while creating interfaces by adding entry in /etc/network/interfaces file.
[11:06] <c06> already 6 interface are there with manual trying to create two more but its not getting created
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:00] <alexas> how can I set the default broswer if it not showed on the list of available ones?
[12:04] <EriC^^> alexas: does this work? sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:11] <dub54> Hi - I added a PPA to sources.list file - trying to ugprade to PHP7 but it doesn't seem to be finding the package / looking at the PPA
[12:12] <dub54> Is there anyway I can verify the PPA is added properly
[12:12] <Ben64> did you do apt-get update
[12:12] <dub54> yup
[12:13] <dub54> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php -> sudo apt-get update -> sudo apt-get install php7.0
[12:13] <dub54> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'php7.0'
[12:14] <BluesKaj> dub54, look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:15] <Ben64> dub54: what ubuntu version
[12:16] <dub54> BluesKaj it shows ondrej-php-precise.list  ondrej-php-precise.list.save in there
[12:16] <dub54> Ben64 Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[12:17] <Ben64> yeah that's not supported anymore
[12:17] <brainwash> !lts
[12:17] <BluesKaj> dub54, that ppa won't apply to your OS
[12:18] <dub54> ah :)
[12:19] <BluesKaj> like Ben64 says, your OS is no longer supported, timr to upgrade to 14,04 LTS at a minimum
[12:22] <alexas> EriC^^: sorry for late reply, no I did not see my browser there on the list
[12:30] <alexas> dfa
[12:32] <alexas> sorry accidental paste
[12:42] <yossarianuk> does anyone know if Ubuntu 17.10 is going to have the mesa update that fixes intel GPU issues (i.e with supertuxkart)
[12:42] <yossarianuk> ?
[12:46] <Ben64> yossarianuk: see if the bug has been reported
[13:21] <skinux> Is PHP5 no longer installable? I'm trying to run a software that tells me I'm missing php5 ( I have 7 installed)
[13:24] <maziar> how should I check packet size, using tcpdump
[13:30] <GhostwalkGames> I didn't know php5 is still needed sometimes
[13:35] <ducasse> skinux: depends on the ubuntu version
[13:35] <skinux>  14.04
[13:37] <ducasse> !info php5 trusty
[13:47] <superKiller> hello, I just installed plasma kde on ubuntu 17.10 . my question is that is it possible to completely remove the gnome desktop and keep only the kde desktop ?
[13:47] <GhostwalkGames> I want to do this too I'm a huge KDE fan
[13:48] <GhostwalkGames> Mostly cos I love QT
[13:48] <EriC^^> superKiller: it's possible, it takes too much effort if it's a new install just fresh install kde or live with the added apps
[13:49] <ducasse> superKiller: if you want kde just install from the kubuntu image. removing a full desktop tends to produce problems.
[13:50] <superKiller> EriC^^ ,  ducasse : okay so i should just do a fresh install.
[13:53] <ducasse> i would recommend that. iirc there was a bug report on doing exactly this as well, dunno if that is fixed,
[13:56] <superKiller> ducasse: thanks! I'll do a fresh install then. really like the kde desktop
[14:01] <GhostwalkGames> I did the same thing in a VM the other day but with Xubuntu
[14:17] <therealtbe> help!  upgrade from 14.04LTS to 16.04LTS failed    http://paste.ubuntu.com/25960855/
[14:20] <therealtbe> also this list of packages   http://paste.ubuntu.com/25960872/
[14:21] <therealtbe> I think it wants me to type   dpkg --configure plymouth,       but that doesn't work   http://paste.ubuntu.com/25960881/
[14:27] <therealtbe> insserv: Service udev has to be enabled to start service plymouth
[14:29] <therealtbe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1616368
[14:30] <akik> anybody know what this message in the syslog means? "[drm] HPD interrupt storm detected on connector DP-1: switching from hotplug detection to polling"
[14:30] <zap0> hi,  upgrade dialog is open..    the dialog window is larger than my screen height.... i can't see the buttons, how do i progress?
[14:32] <therealtbe> akik usually an imperfect or incomplete usb connection with one of your HPD Hot Plug Devices;  disconnecting and reconnecting too fast.  what is plugged into DP-1
[14:32] <EriC^^> zap0: buy a bigger monitor
[14:32] <EriC^^> j/k
[14:32] <akik> therealtbe: the laptop doesn't have a display port connector
[14:33] <therealtbe> zap0  you can try things to close the window, like escape, alt f4.    you can try to navigate the buttons by hitting tab
[14:33] <therealtbe> akik what laptop
[14:33] <akik> therealtbe: DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[14:33] <zap0> EriC^^, lol.  but seriously.. it's a laptop screen.
[14:33] <akik> therealtbe: acer aspire F5-572G
[14:34] <zap0> therealtbe,  even if i tabbed, i wouldn't know what i've tabbed to
[14:34] <akik> therealtbe: i wonder if that DP1 is inside the machine? i have connected the hdmi output to a tv currently
[14:35] <akik> therealtbe: actually xrandr says my laptop display's name is eDP1
[14:36] <therealtbe> akik you probably have some issue with display drivers...
[14:36] <therealtbe> dpkg --configure plymouth exits with error please help  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25960881/
[14:36] <akik> therealtbe: the display is working fine with the intel graphics driver. not sure what the issue could be
[14:37] <therealtbe> so what is your problem then
[14:37] <therealtbe> just stop looking at the logs
[14:37] <therealtbe> I have a very serious problem here,  my upgrade failed, apt won't do anything, dpkg won't do anything, this system is broken
[14:38] <akik> not a very good advice
[14:38] <therealtbe> if it's not causing you any trouble and your system is functional then just ignore it
[14:49] <GhostwalkGames> Gonna try Ubuntu Mate today
[14:49] <GhostwalkGames> Or just install default 17.10 and switch DE
[14:50] <fly> hi how do I use libc++ on ubuntu?
[14:52] <fly> using clang++ still uses libstdc++
[14:52] <fly> oh I can specify -stdlib=libc++
[14:59] <puxavida> how do I boot with no gui in 17.04.  I upgraded from 16.04 to 17.04, but the login screen is freezing.  I tried 'e' at grub and changed quiet splash to text, but it still boots in to gui.
[15:00] <strive> puxavida: You could disable lightdm.
[15:01] <strive> puxavida: https://askubuntu.com/questions/378046/how-to-run-ubuntu-xubuntu-in-a-complete-non-gui-mode
[15:02] <puxavida> strive, I can't get there.  ctl-alt-f2 or whatever does nothing at login screen
[15:02] <strive> puxavida: ctrl+shift+f(#)
[15:03] <puxavida> I'm trying to get to text mode from grub
[15:03] <strive> Oh.
[15:03] <strive> puxavida: https://askubuntu.com/questions/92556/how-do-i-boot-into-a-root-shell
[15:03] <puxavida> a few seconds after gui/login shows the cursor stops blinking in the password box - it's frozone up
[15:04] <strive> Drop into a root shell, check logs and disable lightdm if needed.
[15:07] <akik> strive: you just made up that ctrl+shift+f(#) right?
[15:07] <kettlecooked> I have an Ubuntu 12.04.4 server at our office. It's beeping with system speaker intermittently. 2-3 second spaced beeps, maybe 20-50 in count, goes on for a bit, stops for hours (or minutes) comes back, goes again etc. Any idea how to find out what's causing it?
[15:07] <kettlecooked> I've checked system temps and they are ok. 400 gigabyte free hard drive space.
[15:07] <leftyfb> puxavida: out of curiosity, why did you upgrade from a version supported till 2021 to one that will be out of support in 2 months?
[15:07] <leftyfb> kettlecooked: your issue is that of hardware, not the OS
[15:07] <puxavida> that did it.  recovery mode with networking.  Now it gets to ... trying to start network manager - unknown group power and it has several error messages trying to grep /etc/resolve.conf
[15:08] <strive> akik: LOL, no I meant ctrl+alt, lmao
[15:08] <puxavida> the upgrade must have hosed someting on the file system
[15:08] <kettlecooked> leftyfb, how do you conclude that? not saying you're wrong, just so I understand your reasoning
[15:08] <leftyfb> kettlecooked: beeping is hardware error codes
[15:09] <kettlecooked> you're not thinking about system boot up hardware error beeps? cause the system is running fine, except random beeping
[15:10] <puxavida> leftyfb, test system - acer iconia tab with touch - trying to see how far i can upgrade it and still get touch - it keeps failing with upgrades
[15:10] <leftyfb> kettlecooked: I would start by contacting the hardware manufacturer.
[15:10] <puxavida> will stick with 16.04 and try 18.04 when it comes out
[15:11] <kettlecooked> hmm.. well maybe the motherboard maker then? I built this box myself
[15:11] <leftyfb> sure
[15:14] <kettlecooked> system has been up for 309 days. might try a simple reboot... :D
[15:15] <nicomachus> kettlecooked: you can probably search the motherboard specs and find beep codes. otherwise, run memtest and a SMART check, monitor CPU temps and freq, fan speeds, make sure everything's ok.
[15:16] <kettlecooked> I don't get though why you guys are talking about beep codes - the beeping is intermittent, not like bootup POST problem beep stuff (like the ones indicating problem with RAM for example) - this is a running working system
[15:17] <leftyfb> kettlecooked: beeping is not typically an OS level troubleshooting method. It's almost always hardware. Unless you've got some application on there written to beep when things happen. I've never heard of such an application which means most standard/supported linux services don't do this.
[15:17] <genii> Systems will also beep when you hold a key down too long
[15:35] <anddam> how can I type a double angular bracket in Xorg?
[15:36] <anddam> more in general is there a GUI to the currently loaded keymap?
[15:43] <puxavida> ok - this acer tab works with 15.10, but not with lvm.  I tried lvm and when it got to the point of grub writing to /dev/sda it errored out.  Tried install over and without lvm and now it's installed, with touch active
[15:44] <leftyfb> puxavida: 15.10 is not supported
[15:45] <puxavida> actually 17.10
[15:47] <puxavida> then next march 18.04 lts arrives, right?  When does beta start for 18.04?
[15:49] <leftyfb> puxavida: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/ubuntu-18-04-lts-release-schedule
[15:49] <leftyfb> puxavida: first result on google when searching "ubuntu 18.04 cycle"
[15:51] <puxavida> i had looked earlier, but hadn't put word beta in - not sure if that makes a diff on search :)  thx
[15:53] <puxavida> magic word - cycle....
[15:54] <fly> is there a magic button to get headers that work? to include errno.h I had to get g++-multilib, now I can't include pthread.h because I'm missing stddef.h
[15:55] <fly> g++-multilib-dev, libc6-dev, I have
[15:55] <nacc> fly: are you building for a non-standard architecture?
[15:55] <fly> nacc: no
[15:55] <nacc> fly: then you didn't need that pacakge.
[15:56] <nacc> fly: and that package doesn't innstalled headers (nor do the -dev)
[15:56] <rpg> gnome-terminal simply hangs for me on Ubuntu.  I have read the posts about locale support being broken, and repaired it per instructions, but still gnome-terminal won't start. Any suggestions/pointers to help?
[15:56] <nacc> fly: what are you trying to do?
[15:56] <fly> weird shit
[15:56] <fly> How do I get a /usr/include/stddef.h?
[15:57] <nacc> fly: do you mean /usr/include/linux/stddef.h?
[15:57] <nacc> fly: the path you referred to does not exist in Ubuntu
[15:58] <fly> ok, thanks
[16:09] <zetheroo> whats the trick to using the Display Settings screen arrangement thingy?
[16:09] <zetheroo> It's a total pain - trying to drag screens around and they are just jumping all over the place
[16:17] <bmatt> Is it just me, or does Transmission suck?
[16:23] <kostkon> bmatt, use something else
[16:26] <ash_workz> why am I getting this? W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease  Temporary failure resolving 'archive.canonical.com'
[16:26] <bmatt> kostkon: obviously.
[16:26] <ash_workz> (during apt-get update_
[16:26] <ash_workz> )*
[16:28] <nacc> ash_workz: are you able to resolve it?
[16:28] <ash_workz> nacc: curl works on the link
[16:29] <nacc> ash_workz: on the system in question?
[16:29] <ash_workz> yus
[16:29] <nacc> ash_workz: in what context are you seeing this?
[16:29] <ash_workz> nacc: one of the few final messages during `sudo apt-get update --fix-missing`
[16:30] <nacc> ash_workz: does it happen every time?
[16:31] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, but to be fair, I get an error on a docker link first
[16:31] <ash_workz> nacc: I just figured that that shouldn't impact cannonical stuff
[16:31] <nacc> ash_workz: sounds like possibly buggy network
[16:31] <nacc> ash_workz: is this in a docker container?
[16:32] <ash_workz> no
[16:32] <nacc> s/buggy/slow/
[16:32] <nacc> ash_workz: dunno
[16:32] <ash_workz> this last time, it didn't produce any crap for cannonical
[16:32] <ash_workz> although it seems to be rather regular
[16:34] <bmatt> Are there any decent alternatives to Facebook through a browser?
[16:34] <bmatt> Messenger, specifically
[16:35] <ash_workz> nacc: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ac4c473de825d01916fbf18a88c207bd
[16:35] <ash_workz> after the fetch on line 6, it just zips right through with those warnings
[16:36] <nacc> ash_workz: seems like DNS issues
[16:37] <bmatt> Use public DNS?
[16:37] <nicomachus> bmatt: you can use a program like Franz that puts Messenger into a desktop web app with other chat clients
[16:38] <bmatt> nicomachus: have you used it personally? and if so, did you like it?
[16:39] <nicomachus> bmatt: yes I use it daily for Messenger, Telegram, Whatsapp, Slack, Gitter, and Discord.
[16:39] <nicomachus> bmatt: it works fine. Does the job. basically just puts them all into one application that's a browser-but-not-a-browser. There are probably better programs but idk what they are.
[16:39] <ash_workz> nacc: but shouldn't it like... time out or something? instead of zip right through the last lines?
[16:40] <ducasse> bmatt: you can also use bitlbee, and then access fb through an irc client. back when i tested it you needed a plugin, but it worked.
[16:40] <nacc> ash_workz: I don't konw what you mean by zip. Apt will try to download all index files and then emits any warningns or errors at the end.
[16:40] <nacc> ash_workz: and a DNS failure on your client is typically pretty fast
[16:40] <ash_workz> nacc: right, by zip I mean the messages come really fast
[16:40] <bmatt> ducasse: i thought about that. I've used bitlbee a lot, but I figured it would get in the way of sending/receiving pictures through Messenger. That may be client specific, but either way, I use Irssi mostly
[16:40] <bmatt> nicomachus: I really never understood browser based applications :x
[16:41] <nacc> ash_workz: the relative speed of error messages is ... not really anything
[16:42] <ash_workz> nacc: can I attempt a manual fetch on a specific link?
[16:42] <ducasse> bmatt: i use weechat and honestly never tested images - i just cared about the text.
[16:43] <bmatt> ducasse: pictures are paramount for me ='(
[16:45] <nacc> ash_workz: i mean, you said you did a curl -- you can do curl, wget, etc.
[16:45] <nacc> ash_workz: if your DNS is flaky, though, it means ... it's flaky
[16:46] <ash_workz> nacc: where are you supposed to output the file?
[16:46] <ash_workz> (what directory does fetch put this in?)
[16:47] <ducasse> bmatt: i see. unfortunately i ripped it all out, so i can't test for you
[16:48] <nacc> ash_workz: what file?
[16:48] <bmatt> ducasse: this is unfortunate :'(
[16:48] <ash_workz> nacc: erm; the response from the link I mean
[16:49] <rh10> hi!
[16:49] <ash_workz> o/
[16:49] <rh10> guys, whichi clipboard manager are you using?
[16:49] <rh10> which*
[16:49] <nacc> ash_workz: probably somehwere in /var/cache/apt
[16:50] <ducasse> rh10: clipit has always worked well for me
[16:51] <rh10> ducasse, got it.
[16:57] <nicomachus> rh10: there's a nice Gnome extension called Clipboard Indicator that's not half band.
[16:58] <rh10> nicomachus, thanks! i take a look
[16:58] <rh10> nicomachus, but seems like clipit has enough functionality as for me
[17:09] <Zaplo> xdg-open opens .desktop files in text editor (pluma since i use mate)
[17:10] <Zaplo> how can i make them executable instead?
[17:10] <Zaplo> ubuntu mate 17.10
[17:10] <Zaplo> so i could launch stuff from terminal based on desktop file
[17:12] <Zaplo> double clicking in desktop icon does work, just in terminal it does this
[17:12] <ducasse> Zaplo: try 'dex' instead
[17:15] <Zaplo> ducasse: 'desktop file is not owned by you'. i actually have two home dirs (one from old install) and try to execute from second one. In XFCE xdg-open works
[17:15] <Zaplo> i'll try with other account, maybe it works there.. ->
[17:19] <ohlolz> can anyone recommended me a DUAL-band WIFI adapter that works well, easy to get the drivers online for ubuntu 17.10?
[17:23] <bmatt> ohlolz: like, every adapter manufactured since 2031 B.C.?
[17:27] <ohlolz> bmatt: like no
[17:27] <ohlolz> bmatt: too much drama for making a tp-link 802.11 AC usb adapter to work on ubuntu 17.10
[17:28] <ohlolz> i wanted to know if someone in Real Life has a dual band usb adapter in 17.10 working well, so they can share their model w/ me
[17:30] <ttrx> How do I install ubuntu on my toaster?
[17:32] <bmatt> ttrx: poptart.
[17:33] <ohlolz> burning CDs has never been easier
[17:34] <leftyfb> ttrx: https://imgur.com/a/nmhhr
[17:35] <leftyfb> I built that in 2008. It was a mac mini running Ubuntu. You picked your distro on the touch screen, pop in a CD and it would burn it for you. And obvious eject the cd out the top when it was done
[17:36] <leftyfb> Forgive the mess. It was thrown together at the last minute the night before.
[17:37] <alkisg> ohlolz: I have a TP-LINK TL-WN722N working fine here in Ubuntu 16.04 (since 12.04)
[17:38] <ioria> leftyfb, sounds awesome
[17:38] <alkisg> Check if its specs suit you
[17:38] <alkisg> (plug n play in all OSes...)
[17:38] <leftyfb> ioria: it was pretty fun back in the day. Back when we used to hold installfests
[17:38] <ioria> right
[17:39] <ohlolz> alkisg: it's just 150M 802.11n - I want dual band +300M 802.11ac
[17:39] <ttrx> +leftyfb holy crap that is amazing
[17:39] <alkisg> ohlolz: ok, didn't check specs :)
[17:39] <ohlolz> alkisg: i just read in forums that 802.11ac is still poorly developed for linux
[17:40] <alkisg> I don't think I have any router that supports that...
[17:40] <ohlolz> so it's better i don't wasnt cash on an adapter i'm 95% it will give me a hedache
[17:40] <ohlolz> *don't waste
[17:41] <ohlolz> alkisg: do you live in a first world country? i don't and i have access to dual band routers since long time.
[17:41] <tgm4883> that hardly seems like a relevant question
[17:42] <alkisg> ohlolz: greece... the stock routers that ISPs give usually aren't dual band, but of course you can buy dual band routers with e.g. 50 euros or so
[17:42] <ohlolz> tgm4883: it is because one has can answer my question correctly, either here or the debian channel. less online.
[17:43] <ohlolz> alkisg: i got my new router for free, negotiating my ISP provider. actually blackmailing them i'll leave their service.
[17:44] <ohlolz> alkisg: my windows 10 works excellent on 802.11ac
[17:45] <alkisg> ohlolz: most ISPs here give this one, I don't see 802.11ac there... http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/products/access/cpe/201405/t20140522_424137.html
[17:45] <ohlolz> i guess my country rocks with technology XD
[17:46] <ohlolz> anyways i feel better not trying to demand too much from ubuntu 17.10
[17:50] <ohlolz> hi pope bazhang
[17:50] <ohlolz> bazhang: or do u like pastor better?
[18:12] <mitchel> hello
[18:12] <mitchel> i got a problem with samba server
[18:12] <mitchel> im having samba issues, i cannot have two users with one with read and write privilege, and the other only read. I can access one on a windows machine but cant use the 2nd account. Just gives me an error: "Access Denied"
[18:13] <mitchel> this is my smb.conf
[18:13] <mitchel> https://paste.ee/p/1AnvU
[18:16] <mitchel> im just really stuck
[18:17] <theablestman> how do you install ubuntu studio 14.04lts im currently on ubuntu 14.04lts and want to upgrade
[18:17] <mitchel> just the same way you installed 14.04 lts
[18:18] <Menzador> theablestman - you can add the Ubuntu Studio metas to your existing Ubuntu install if you'd like
[18:18] <theablestman> k how
[18:18] <mitchel> can someone help me with samba?
[18:19] <Menzador> theablestman - if you have a GUI already, install the ubuntustudio-installer package and select the packages to install from it
[18:19] <theablestman> no
[18:19] <Menzador> No, you don't have a GUI?
[18:19] <theablestman> not studio's i think
[18:20] <Menzador> !info ubuntustudio-installer
[18:20] <theablestman> what do i type in terminal?
[18:21] <Menzador> [ sudo apt install ubuntustudio-$(audio | graphics | publishing | video ]
[18:21] <Menzador> I think it's -publishing anyway
[18:21] <Menzador> lemme check that
[18:21] <Menzador> !info ubuntustudio-publishing
[18:21] <Menzador> Yep
[18:22] <Menzador> Your other option, of course, is to grab an Ubuntu Studio image (which uses XFCE)
[18:23] <theablestman> sudo apt install ubuntustudio ?
[18:23] <theablestman> doestn work
[18:23] <theablestman> E: Unable to locate package ubuntustudio
[18:24] <Menzador> No, I said ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntustudio-graphics, ubuntustudio-publishing, and/or ubuntustudio-video
[18:24] <theablestman> ok
[18:24] <theablestman> working
[18:26] <mitchel> Menzador: do you know something about samba file sharing?
[18:26] <Affabulation> im trying to add to this script https://gist.github.com/Dani3lSun/83ebfa77fbb21a6873ef to remove duplicates and rearrange hosts 9 per line
[18:26] <Menzador> mitchel - not really
[18:26] <mitchel> like im really stuck
[18:26] <mitchel> have to create a file server
[18:31] <Ertain> Hello everyone. I have a small Ubuntu server (17.04) which I'm using as a clock-in kiosk for a local charity. We can't get ethernet to the device, so we have to make do with wifi. A problem I have is that it just can't get an IP address. And I'm not entirely certain why.
[18:31] <Ertain> While it's true I'm using an out-of-kernel module just to power the wifi adapter, I can't think of any other reason why it won't work.
[18:37] <Menzador> Ertain - What module? What's the output of [ lspci -vnn | grep -i network ]?
[18:37] <Ertain> I'm using the "8192cu" module.
[18:38] <Ertain> As for output of that command, I only got the information for the ethernet connection, not the wireless connection.
[18:40] <UukGoblin> hello, on Lubuntu 17.10, with kernel 4.13.0-16-generic, I can't get 5.1 audio to work on HDMI. It's the new Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio driver thing introduced in 4.11
[18:40] <UukGoblin> stereo audio is fine
[18:40] <Ertain> If it helps, the wireless adapter can scan for access points.
[18:40] <UukGoblin> also, pulseaudio doesn't seem to work (stereo audio only works on plain alsa)
[18:43] <UukGoblin> (it's a Cherrytrail Intel Atom CPU)
[18:45] <idbentley> I'm trying to configure my /etc/network/interfaces file on ubuntu 16.04 so that the connection will always occur on a certain IP and gateway over ethernet.  This was working well in previous versions of linux when the network interface was predictably called eth0, but after the upgrade to 16.04 the if is now called ens32.  How can I predict what the interface will be called in the future?
[18:46] <TJ-> idbentley: the new interface naming scheme is designed to be predictable; it's based on the interface hardware location
[18:47] <idbentley> So I can assume into the future this will always be called ens32?
[18:48] <idbentley> @TJ-
[18:49] <TJ-> idbentley: "en" == EtherNet, "s32" indicates "slot 32", but I'd have expected a "pXX" (port xx) in between
[18:49] <TJ-> idbentley: is the interface on PCI? if not, that might explain no "pXX" in there
[18:51] <TJ-> idbentley: e.g. on this system with a PCI network port on PCI bus 2, slot 0, I have "enp2s0"
[18:51] <idbentley> TJ-: I'm not sure, it's not my rack - I'm just given access to the Virtual Machine
[18:54] <UukGoblin> is the Intel LPE Audio driver for Cherrytrail even meant to work with 5.1?
[18:54] <TJ-> idbentley: ahhh, so a virtual device, that might be it. it doesn't sound like it's presented as a PCI device but you can check with "lspci -nn"
[18:58] <idbentley> TJ-: Thanks for the help!
[18:59] <idbentley> TJ-: I have to go through this upgrade process for another machine
[18:59] <TJ-> idbentley: the 'old' scheme ethX relied on the devices always being detected in the same order OR a udev rule that matched on the interface MAC
[18:59] <idbentley> and I'd prefer avoiding having hte network interface blow up again, is there a way I can ask the machine what the interface is going to be named before I upgradE?
[19:00] <TJ-> idbentley: hmmm, that's a good question. Try this search: "dmesg | grep 'renamed from ' "
[19:01] <idbentley> TJ- "[    2.032879] e1000 0000:02:00.0 ens32: renamed from eth0"
[19:01] <akik> idbentley: you can go back to the previous naming scheme by adding net.ifnames=0 kernel parameter
[19:01] <theablestman> menzador
[19:01] <TJ-> idbentley: that may give you something similar to this: "sky2 0000:02:00.0 enp2s0: renamed from eth0" so you can see the predictable name, but I'm not sure you'd see similar in a system that is using the kernel's name (eth0)
[19:02] <idbentley> akik: I
[19:02] <idbentley> 'd rather use the new predictable names after reading more about them
[19:04] <akik> idbentley: don't be scared when your usb network adapter name is a long hex string :)
[19:04] <TJ-> long hex strings are the MAC address
[19:05] <akik> no, the "predictable" interface naming actually creates crazy interface names
[19:05] <TJ-> In what way?
[19:05] <TJ-> I know virtual Ethernet devices get random names, but physical interfaces are predictable
[19:06] <akik> for example: wlx00212f398e53
[19:06] <akik> i've seen this happen on usb network devices
[19:07] <akik> wlan & ethernet
[19:08] <theablestman> hello anyone know how to install ubuntustudio over ubuntu 14.04lts?
[19:09] <TJ-> Yes, "wl" == WireLess, "x" == eXternal, and the MAC address is 00:21:2f:39:8e:53
[19:10] <akik> but i meant it is the name of the interface
[19:10] <TJ-> akik: right, that's how the name is built for external devices. The MAC address is unique, and the point of the naming scheme is make the name predictable
[19:11] <TJ-> akik: knowing where the interface is connected the name can be predicted BEFORE the device is connected (if you know the bus/slot (PCI) or MAC address (USB) )
[19:12] <akik> might be usable on a machine with lots of network interfaces but of no use on a simple machine
[19:12] <akik> ethernet = eth0, wireless = wlan0
[19:24] <TJ-> iproute2 package does allow aliases, e.g. "ip link set enp2s0 alias eth0" but I don't think the other tools will make use of it; weird.
[19:39] <erle-> When will Firefox 57 hit?
[19:50] <EvilRoey> Hi all.  Can anyone help me with this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034909  <-- I'm stuck at the part the original poster is, not knowing how to obtain the WEBDAV server's .pem
[19:55] <viju> Why do I get unable to lock the administration directory at random times? It occurred for couple of times.
[19:56] <alkisg> viju: "lock the administration directory"? What does that mean?
[19:58] <jatt> maybe /administration ?
[20:00] <brainwash> erle-: not today
[20:02] <viju> I get that when I try to upgrade
[20:02] <viju>  /var/lib/.. some directory
[20:03] <ioria> viju, you mean this : E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) is another process using it?
[20:04] <alkisg> Heh, and noone in #ubuntu-devel sympathizes when I'm complaining that this bites users more than it helps :D
[20:04] <alkisg> software-properties-gtk => prompt instead of autoinstall :)
[20:06] <Bashing-om> viju: Maybe because "unattended-upgrades" is running at that time ?? ps -efly | egrep '(dpkg|apt)' shows what when the lock is in place ?
[20:09] <zertyuio> hi there
[20:10] <zertyuio> Running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS \n \l
[20:10] <zertyuio> each time when i reboot my ubuntu system
[20:11] <zertyuio> with iptables -L i see the old rules actives
[20:11] <zertyuio> can't understand why?
[20:12] <zertyuio> what to check ?
[20:16] <strive> zertyuio: Are you saving them?
[20:16] <zertyuio> good question
[20:16] <strive> haha
[20:16] <TJ-> zertyuio: there's a tools and service called iptables-save that generally saves/reloads the rules at shutdown/startup time
[20:17] <strive> zertyuio: iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4
[20:17] <zertyuio> excellent
[20:17] <zertyuio> you are correct
[20:18] <strive> zertyuio: Give it a try :)
[20:18] <zertyuio> thanks a lot
[20:18] <strive> zertyuio: I learned to get accustomed to using 'iptables -nvL'
[20:19] <zertyuio> i was going on sysgtemd etc... disable ufw service more than 1 hour i didn't find that
[20:19] <shazbotmcnasty> anyone ever used zammad? I've got a few questions.
[20:19] <strive> -n for numeric output, -v for verbose.
[20:19] <strive> zertyuio: yw.
[20:19] <TJ-> !info iptables-persistent
[20:21] <zertyuio> so this line is not necessary invoke-rc.d iptables-persistent sav
[20:21] <zertyuio> so this line is not necessary invoke-rc.d iptables-persistent save
[20:21] <zertyuio> ??
[20:22] <TJ-> zertyuio: it'll save/restore the rules.  I think you'll find they are written to /etc/iptables/rules.v4
[20:23] <TJ-> zertyuio: so after you change the existing rules you can manually do "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4" and your new rules will be set on startup
[20:24] <zertyuio> ok good
[20:24] <TJ-> zertyuio: correction!...
[20:24] <TJ-> zertyuio: o "sudo sh -c 'iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4'  "
[20:25] <TJ-> zertyuio: I forgot both command and redirection need UID 0 privileges
[20:25] <zertyuio> okok
[20:25] <zertyuio> god it
[20:25] <gluon> any idea when firfox quantum is landing on artful aardvark's official repos?
[20:26] <gluon> firefox*
[20:26] <kostkon> gluon, soon
[20:26] <gluon> kostkon: maybe within the next 24 hours?
[20:27] <kostkon> gluon, probably
[20:27] <zamba> what do you guys use to monitor several different network locations?
[20:27] <zamba> i need to probe certain network points from different locations.. and i'd like to have some centrally running service for that
[20:30] <zertyuio> an other issue
[20:33] <alkisg> zamba: monitor, like online status and immediate access, or like resource viewing and logging?
[20:34] <zertyuio> lxd related question is it here ?
[20:35] <zertyuio> lxd not creating its bridge
[20:35] <zertyuio> each time you install it
[20:42] <lordcirth_work> zamba, monitoring like Nagios or Icinga?
[20:43] <zamba> lordcirth_work: yes
[20:49] <akik> what are ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard packages? they don't contain any real payload, just a changelog and copyright
[20:57] <Romantic> Hello, is there a way to access the ubuntu clipboard from terminal?  Xsel/Xclip are only accessing the X clipboard.
[21:04] <aloo_shu> akik I think they are meta packages intended to pull diffrent sets of packages in the earlyer stages of different installs. a look at these pkgs' dependencies should confirm this
[21:10] <akik> aloo_shu: i saw those packages update, and was curious why i have both ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard. thanks for the explanation
[21:12] <aloo_shu> akik: a hopefully intelligent guess it was rather, but you're welcome
[21:13] <ducasse> Romantic: xsel can access the clipboard, see the man page
[21:13] <puxavida> Romantic, not sure of your environment.  I can copy from text editor or browser then use shift-ctl-v to paste or copy highlight in terminal and copy with shift-ctl-c
[21:15] <akik>  This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu minimal system,
[21:15] <akik>  that is a functional command-line system with the following capabilities:
[21:15] <Romantic> I'm not looking for a way to paste, but to pipe the content of the clipboard to another tool, a la pbpaste on osx.
[21:15] <Romantic> looking at it ducasse
[21:16] <Romantic> `xsel -o -b` tx
[21:18] <ecdhe> What is the best supported means of allowing a network mounted home directory for ubuntu desktop?
[21:21] <YADW1> Hello! Maybe it's not the right place to ask (if so please don't kill me, redirect me to a more appropriate support channel instead :D), but I'm having a lot of issues trying to play a stream from stdin with Mplayer from terminal.
[21:22] <YADW1> I tried googling for some solutions, but nothing worked apparently
[21:26] <TJ-> YADW1: what's the source writing to stdin?
[21:27] <TJ-> YADW1: usually you'd do "sourceprogram | mplayer -
[21:27] <TJ-> YADW1: the "-" means read from stdin
[21:27] <YADW1> It's adb screenrecord over USB. It works perfectly when I pipe it to ffplay or VLC
[21:28] <TJ-> YADW1: see "man mplayer"
[21:32] <YADW1> I really don't mean to say that it's too long to read, but it's kind of... you know, 10055 lines long. I'll give it a quick look and let you know in 3-4 hours I guess.
[21:33] <TJ-> YADW1: first line of the SYNOPIS: "mplayer [options] [file|URL|playlist|-]"
[21:34] <TJ-> YADW1: convention is that if a program can read from stdin as well a file the symbol is "-" where a filename would be
[21:35] <YADW1> That was quick. Yes, of course I did put a - at the end
[21:35] <TJ-> YADW1: well that's how to have it read stdin. what issues are you having?
[21:35] <on3pk> So, as you may have guessed, I'm really new to linux.  I got this RFID reader from China.  How do I know which device in /dev/ it relates too?
[21:36] <TJ-> on3pk: is it USB?
[21:36] <on3pk> Yes
[21:37] <on3pk> Some code on GitHub seems to indicate it should be /dev/ttyUSB0 but that device isn't found
[21:38] <TJ-> on3pk: should show up in sysfs as /sys/class/nfc/nfcX
[21:38] <YADW1> TJ-: This is the command I used: "adb shell screenrecord --output-format=h264 - | mplayer -demuxer h264es -". I end up having this error
[21:38] <YADW1> "[h264 @ 0xb6d92fe0]No start code is found.
[21:38] <YADW1> [h264 @ 0xb6d92fe0]Error splitting the input into NAL units.
[21:38] <YADW1> Error while decoding frame!"
[21:39] <on3pk> it doesn't appear there is a nfc folder available in /sys/class
[21:39] <TJ-> YADW1: that's something you'd need to ask the mencoder/mplayer folks; looks like a container encoding issue
[21:39] <TJ-> on3pk: check what dmesg reports when the device is connected to begin with.
[21:40] <YADW1> Um, alright, thank you. Is there an irc channel?
[21:40] <TJ-> on3pk: e.g. on my system it's a USB device shown with "lsusb": "Bus 006 Device 002: ID 04cc:2533 ST-Ericsson NFC device (PN533)"
[21:41] <ducasse> YADW1: #mplayer sounds promising :)
[21:41] <on3pk> This looks relevant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25963354/
[21:43] <TJ-> on3pk: It presents as a keyboard then
[21:43] <YADW1> ducasse: It--it's just I... I didn't want to, err, be too... obvious, yeah!
[21:43] <YADW1> (Thank you of course :))
[21:44] <ducasse> YADW1: no problem :)
[21:44] <TJ-> on3pk: use "lsusb" to identify it's bus/device numbers, then you may find a character device link with "ls -latr /dev/char/" -- the last listed device will be something like "189:641 -> ../bus/usb/006/002"
[21:44] <ducasse> !alis | YADW1 in case you didn't know
[21:45] <on3pk> oh ok
[21:45] <TJ-> on3pk: if it's presenting as a keyboard it may be read-only though
[21:45] <YADW1> ducasse:That looks quite handy, actually. I'll give it a try next time!
[21:48] <toymachine> Any devs working on thunderbolt3 + egpu? If so I'd like to help out.
[21:48] <toymachine> Not sure where to start.
[21:50] <on3pk> I don't mind read only.  I'm just a little annoyed it doesn't seem to be working
[21:52] <alexas> i want to reprogram my foor switch connected through usb to a custom key, right now by default it is programmed as F2, I have found this manual to do it http://h6o6.com/2013/03/configure-a-usb-foot-pedal-on-linux/ but in my ubuntu 17.10 i can't found specific locations to files that author mentioned, however I was able to locate my foot switch with 'lsusb' command, that is as far as I got now
[21:52] <alexas> foot*
[21:56] <puxavida> in ubuntu 16.04 (unity), is there a way to put workspace switcher in top bar?  I've looked in settings/tweak tool/web search and don't see a way.  or have a panel at the bottom with switcher??
[21:58] <TJ-> alexas: if you're using start off identifying the device with "for n in  /sys/class/input/input*; do echo $n = $(cat $n/name); done "
[22:00] <puxavida> i do see the switcher in the launcher, but I have the launcher auto-hide - I guess I'll need to super to view launcher then select switcher applet
[22:00] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[22:00] <dbugger> I have a weird issue with GRUB. When I click on "advanced options for ubuntu" I see something called "Low latency". What is that??
[22:00] <akik> i asked earlier about this strange message on my laptop's syslog "[drm] HPD interrupt storm detected on connector DP-1". it can be suppressed by echoing N to /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll
[22:01] <akik> otherwise it was outputing the message every 2 seconds
[22:01] <TJ-> dbugger: we have 2 variations of the standard kernels; -generic and -lowlatency. lowlatency is better for desktops where the user doesn't expect to be kept waiting
[22:01] <akik> hmm actually it's every two minutes, not two seconds
[22:03] <CashDash123> whats the package name fore makeinfo and m4?
[22:03] <akik> TJ-: isn't that always? :)
[22:04] <CashDash123> *for
[22:04] <TJ-> !info m4
[22:05] <TJ-> !texinfo | CashDash123
[22:05] <TJ-> !info texinfo | CashDash123
[22:06] <dbugger> TJ-, does not expect to be waiting? What does that mean?
[22:06] <dedze> Hi can someone help me please?
[22:06] <dbugger> Can you give me a "for instance"?
[22:06] <CashDash123> TJ-, ubottu  Thanks
[22:07] <TJ-> dbugger: processes that want low latency, such as for sound (e.g. JACK)
[22:07]  * CashDash123 also hopes to see fan art of Tux urinating on the Ubuntu logo
[22:07] <TJ-> dbugger: also, general responsiveness for GUI with heavy I/O workloads
[22:08] <dedze> How can I know if uid=0 and uid=1000 are me??
[22:08] <dedze> In the auth log
[22:09] <TJ-> dedze: "id"
[22:09] <dedze> Hi TJ-
[22:10] <alexas> TJ-: I have consulted the following tutorial and found my event id of the pedal, and I followed the rest of the instruction and installed the program specified but then in my text editor it is still the key that it was: https://hillelcoren.com/2016/03/01/using-a-foot-pedal-for-ctrl-and-alt-modifiers-on-ubuntu/
[22:11] <dedze> TJ-: id=1000(ussop) gid=1000(ussop) groups=1000(ussop),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),46(plugdev),113(lpadmin),128(sambashare)
[22:11] <dedze> Who are all these users???
[22:11] <alexas> TJ-: ok sorry i misunderstood your message, I think I found the device input
[22:11] <TJ-> dedze: that's your user's ID and group menberships
[22:12] <dedze> TJ-: I'm always anxious about being hacked
[22:12] <dedze> TJ-: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[22:12] <dedze> Is that suspicious?
[22:12] <TJ-> alexas: i've not seen evrouter in use before. Were you able to configure the ~/.evrouterrc for your device's values?
[22:13] <TJ-> dedze: no; the cron system service does that to run time-based jobs
[22:13] <dedze> TJ-: I was typing on click and I'm almost sure that a right click happened for a sec, like I saw the little Paste, copy box
[22:13] <alexas> TJ-: yes, but without the effect apparently, I am now can't see how I can kill this program in order to restart it to see if it will work with another values
[22:13] <dedze> Typing on skype* sorry
[22:14] <dedze> Could it be a hacker remotely controling my laptop?
[22:15] <TJ-> alexas: I'm wondering if the lack of a response is due to the GUI moving from the event (libev) sub-system to libinput
[22:15] <TJ-> alexas: so it may require something done via libinput
[22:15] <Affabulation> lol
[22:16] <alexas> aha ok I found how to kill it
[22:17] <alexas> TJ-: am affarid I understood only half of your analysis sir
[22:19] <TJ-> alexas: in the last few years the input device sub-system has been moving from libev (events) to libinput. The solution you linked to relies on libev (evrouter). If your system is using libinput then evrouter will not work
[22:20] <alexas> TJ-: am having the ubuntu 17.10 if that helps
[22:23] <puxavida> CashDash123, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[22:24] <CashDash123> puxavida, I'm just going to ue bash
[22:24] <CashDash123> *use
[22:26] <adac> When is firefox 57 available for 16.04, anyone knows?
[22:29] <kostkon> adac, soon
[22:29] <adac> cool!
[22:31] <dedze> How can I figure out if my routeur is infected?
[22:31] <TJ-> alexas: I'm not finding much information that suggests libinput can be configured the same way. You need to confirm whether your system is using libinput or libev. On 17.10 there's a good chance it's not even using Xorg because by default it is set to use Gnome/Wayland with libinput.
[22:33] <snadge> where is firefox quantum!? :P
[22:33] <snadge> i expect an update in the update channel.. in 50 nanoseconds
[22:33] <snadge> .. its late :P
[22:36] <Pazooza> Why in 17.10 I have to do an xhost si and start a program with sudo like synaptic package manager. Never had to do that before in privious versions.
[22:37] <TJ-> Pazooza: "Wayland" - that project's developers decided that it wasn't sure so prevent it
[22:44] <Jonii> I got Ubuntu 17.10
[22:44] <Jonii> How do I change screen full screen app is in? :/
[22:44] <Jonii> Like, display it's in
[22:47] <Jonii> Figured it out
[22:48] <alexas> how can I configure caps lock as Ctrl in tty terminal, in GUI it works but not in tty
[22:48] <Jonii> It was pretty intuitive spot, lay out all windows and then just drag it. Though it was a bit bugged, after dragging window layout would display it wrong until you got out of window layout thing
[22:54] <preyalone> anyone else seeing install failures for ubuntu 16.04, especially in VMware?
[22:54] <Affabulation> Dont use ubuntu
[22:55] <Affabulation> arch for the win
[22:55] <Affabulation> sorry im kidding lol
[22:55] <Affabulation> I had a troll moment :(
[22:57] <preyalone> thanks for the laugh, i needed that! so much brokenness these days
[22:59] <Affabulation> OMG
[23:00] <Affabulation> NEW FIREFOX IS AWEOSME
[23:01] <Jordan_U> !ot | Affabulation
[23:01] <CashDash123> Affabulation, How? Granted I'm still using 52 for my lfs install
[23:01] <Affabulation> Sorry its just wow I looks amazing I culdnt help myself
[23:02] <CashDash123> I mean 56
[23:02] <CashDash123> my gentoo box is using 52.40 which is I think one out of date
[23:03] <Affabulation> I pmed you
[23:03] <Affabulation> dont want to go off topic
[23:09] <_28kb> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[23:09] <_28kb> can this mess up graphics?
[23:13] <_28kb> i want to setup radeon card on 16.04... no proprietary driver can be installed
[23:15] <Affabulation> 28kb you can download it from the amd website
[23:15] <_28kb> rolling back to 14.04? i guess that's not recommendable
[23:15] <Affabulation> Or add the spa
[23:15] <_28kb> can't... there's only 14.04 driver version to download
[23:16] <Affabulation> is it those catalyst driver
[23:16] <Affabulation> or is it newer
[23:16] <_28kb> my card is old
[23:16] <_28kb> and not supported by new amdgpu driver
[23:18] <Affabulation> yea I went through this hell myself
[23:18] <_28kb> i need to use radeon open source driver
[23:19] <_28kb> but it's not even listed in xorg.conf.d
[23:19] <Jordan_U> _28kb: What problem did you have when you installed Ubuntu 16.04, before doing anything else?
[23:19] <_28kb> problem is from start
[23:20] <_28kb> system hangs on desktop load
[23:20] <_28kb> i have to log to console and restart lightdm
[23:20] <_28kb> then i got visuals, but no 3d accel
[23:21] <_28kb> i do this every time i boot
[23:22] <_28kb> couldn't find any logs reporting error
[23:22] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Please pastebin the output of "lspci | grep VGA".
[23:22] <_28kb> ok
[23:23] <_28kb> it's one line can i paste here?
[23:24] <_28kb> i paste it in paste bin.. how do tou find it?
[23:25] <_28kb> https://pastebin.com/S8yJT0PM
[23:27] <_28kb> is it working... it says i don't have to login
[23:28] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Yes, that worked.
[23:28] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Is this a fresh install or an upgrade from 14.04?
[23:29] <_28kb> fresh
[23:30] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[23:31] <_28kb> https://pastebin.com/35XDGKKk
[23:34] <_28kb> i pasted you a book... now you know more about my machine then I know
[23:35] <_28kb> is it safe pasting all this data publicly?
[23:35] <_28kb> i guess passwords aren't there
[23:36] <_28kb> i guess passwords aren't there
[23:37] <_28kb> now.. i did install and uninstall stuff... but the problem was from the beginning
[23:37] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Yes, it's all safe to post. There are no passwords or other sensitive information.
[23:37] <_28kb> :)
[23:39] <_28kb> i switched to gnome and back from unity to check if lightdm was messing
[23:39] <Jordan_U> _28kb: Do you have that same problem if you boot from an Ubuntu 17.10 LiveUSB?
[23:39] <_28kb> i didn't boot from there
[23:40] <_28kb> i booted 16.04 LTS usb with "try"
[23:41] <_28kb> it booted.. but i didn't test 3d
[23:41] <_28kb> dudes here suggested me to verbose boot
[23:41] <_28kb> no errors pop up
[23:42] <_28kb> i turned on initial login screen
[23:43] <Industrial> Hi.
[23:43] <Industrial> How do I disable the redis service?
[23:43] <Industrial> I don't want it to start on boot
[23:54] <preyalone> firefox crashes from a fresh ubuntu 14.04 install. wat.
[23:58] <Toadisattva> forget to run the updates after installing?